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== Thirteenth Prime Minister ==
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As clearly mentioned in the article that Dr. Singh is the sucessor to Mr Vajpayee. The link
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http://en.wikipedia.org/Atal_Behari_Vajpayee decribes Mr Vajpayee as the 10th PM of India.
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I m not sure about this, but would like someone who knows about this to review the articles, so as to rectify the errors if any.
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Thanks.
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: As detailed on ], Mr. Vajpayee served ''two'' terms. When he took office for the first time, he was the 10th prime minister of India. There were two other prime ministers (as well as Mr. Vajpayee's second term) before Mr. Singh became the 13th prime minister. The previously mentioned article has a nice tablhttp://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Manmohan_Singh&action=edite. ]
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== Semi-protected edit request on 11 March 2023 ==
==First Sikh Prime Minister==
I'm sure I'm not alone in having assumed that the two previous PMs called "Singh" were Sikhs, too. Could someone knowledgable add an explanation, either on this page or the other Singhs'? Tnx, ]


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:VP was not: ; CC I can't find anything on. ] 04:24, 22 May 2004 (UTC)
When we think of Manmohan Singh, the image of a calm, composed leader often comes to mind. Known for steering India through economic liberalization, Singh was also a figure of many contradictions. Behind his soft-spoken demeanor lay a leader whose tenure was marked by both groundbreaking achievements and significant controversies. As we reflect on his journey, three controversial aspects of his leadership stand out.


Thanks for your search efforts. Misplaced Pages (I should have looked) has, of course, an article on ], which offers the following explanation: "While all male Sikhs are Singhs, not all Singhs are Sikh. It was a name in use before the Sikhs and signified someone of high caste. Therefore you often get Hindu Singhs who are not Sikhs." So, another preconception bites the dust. ] 15:20, 22 May 2004 (UTC)


In the case of ]s, '''Singh''' perhaps has to do with the ] word for ]. The Hindu warrior caste believed themselves to be just like a lion in valour on the battlefield. In the neighbouring country of ], the surname '''Singh''' is adopted by the landed gentry, just like '''Tagore''' in India.


in all the line referring him as Mr. Singh, it should be replaced by Dr. Singh ] (]) 17:17, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
Another interesting '''Singh''' is in the noun ]. I have always believed that ''Singapore'' is formed by the Sanskrit words for lion(Singh) and city(pur). So, Singapore is a ''city of lions''. -
:] '''Not done:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> per ]: the subject is not widely known as "Dr. Singh". ] (]) 17:49, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
] 23:42, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
::In , he is referred to as 'Dr.'.] (]) 11:34, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
:::{{notdone}} We do not use honorifics per ] ] unless it is part of the article name/]. If the article name contained "Dr." as a prefix then we had to use it. Quotes in the article that are taken verbatim are exceptions. - ] (]) 13:02, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
::::Why do we rely on consensus? I thought we would rely on the individual person himself, as he is dead and this is a memorial for him, in many ways. I would love to hear the reasoning behind this. ] (]) 01:22, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::Misplaced Pages is not a one-person blog but an encyclopedia supposed edited by a community of users who agree to set common standards to prevent edit-warring and make articles readable by all and not just singular individuals users with varied and sometimes ridiculous whims. 08:26, 29 December 2024 (UTC) ] (]) 08:26, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::In case you still don’t understand, read ]. ] (]) 08:41, 29 December 2024 (UTC)


== Semi-protected edit request on 26 December 2024 ==
==regarded==


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Why was the word "regarded" bolded? ] ] 18:33, May 24, 2004 (UTC)
] (]) 16:34, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
He died


:{{already done}}<!-- Template:EEp --> -- ] (]) 05:37, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
== In Gurumukhi ? ==


== Semi-protected edit request on 26 December 2024 (2) ==
Why Manmohan's name in Gurumukhi ? Should ]'s name written in ] and Devegowda's in ] ? - ] 07:08, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)


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Quite possibly? ] 16:16, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Want to Add Death Date place and Time ] (]) 17:04, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
:{{already done}}<!-- Template:EEp --> place has been added; precise time would not be required in article -- ] (]) 05:40, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
::what is the harm in adding the time? ] (]) 11:22, 27 December 2024 (UTC)


== Death ==
: Yeah. That would fit very much for a multilingual country like India. -- ] 05:34, Dec 9, 2004 (UTC)


He died on 27 december 2024. He suddenly became unconcius and declared died at 9:51 pm in aiims hospital delhi. ] (]) 18:33, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
:: Definitely. We should encourage people who can write in those languages to add such names as appropriate. ]


:All sources indicate he died on the night of 26 December 2024. ] (]) 18:34, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
==Lok Sabha==


== Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 26 December 2024 ==
The article notes his defeat at South Delhi in 1999. Where is his current constituency? ] 09:39, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)


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:He's not a member of ], but is a member of ] from ] according to . The notion of a constituency is not associated with a Rajya Sabha member as he and others represent a state and not a single constituency. -- {{user|Sundar}} 05:04, Apr 25, 2005 (UTC)
He was born in an undefined provinces in India. ] (]) 19:07, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
:{{notdone}} The sources support him being born in Gah (now in Punjab, Pakistan). - ] (]) 19:11, 26 December 2024 (UTC)


== Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 27 December 2024 ==
Is there no requirement that the PM be a member of the Lok Sabha? Is he the first PM not to be a member? ] 06:25, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)


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:The only requirement is that the PM should be a member of '''either''' of the houses of Indian Parliament. If s/he is not a member s/he must get elected within six months of appointment as PM or a minister in the cabinet. I think he's '''not''' the first Indian PM who is not a member of the ]. -- {{user|Sundar}} 06:38, Apr 25, 2005 (UTC)
] (]) 02:00, 27 December 2024 (UTC) Please add that Manmohan singh died in AIIMS, New Delhi


:{{already done}}<!-- Template:EEp --> -- ] (]) 05:41, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
Thanks. This should be noted in the article. ] 06:45, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)


== Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 27 December 2024 (2) ==
==Please explain yourself==
To the user who keeps reverting my valid comments, using multiple sockpuppets, please note that the wikipdeia personal attack policy is directed at other ''users'' and not persons on whom the article is based. Please explain to me:
# Why I shouldn't reinsert my comments here
# Since you keep reverting me, why I shouldn't return the favor and do some liberal reverting of my own on your contributions?
# Why I shouldn't add the following entry in this article:


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::==Leaked CIA Report==
</ref>Former Pr. Dr. Manmohan Singh has passed away, Appealing wikipedia to update the status.<ref> ] (]) 03:26, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
::According to a classified report by the CIA that was recently leaked to the Washington Post, Dr. Singh underwent a nervous breakdown at age 35, when during a routine medical check up, it was revealed that his longtime partner and wife, Lady Devi, was in fact, a man. Dr. Singh claimed that he always pumped Devi with the lights off and so he ''never'' actually saw her naked. But to his credit, even after this revelation that his wife is a man, Dr. Singh forgave her, or rather ''him'', and continues to live with her/him happily even after many many years. Since this report has become public knowledge, Dr. Singh has become an extremely popular figure among the gay/lesbian communities of India, which constitute a substantial portion of the population.
:{{already done}}<!-- Template:EEp --> -- ] (]) 05:43, 27 December 2024 (UTC)


== Edit request ==
If you are speechless, I will proceed to reinsert my comments here. Awaiting your reply, ] 20:31, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
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The word 're-elected' should be changed to 're-appointed' in last line of 1st paragraph, as the ] is appointed by the president. ] (]) 09:59, 27 December 2024 (UTC)


::{{notdone}}: no evidence provided. It shall remain '''re-elected''' until further evidence is provided. ](] • ]) 02:25, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
:::I think you imagine pretty good. Keep it up. --] 13:56, 30 July 2005 (UTC)


:::It is mentioned in 's article 75(1) on page 34. ] (]) 10:34, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
First off, Manmohan Singh is not popular amongst the gay/lesbian community in India. I doubt if any politician is, except maybe Omar Abdullah, Rahul Gandhi or Shabnam mausi (none of who are gay, btw). I don't know where you got that rubbish from. Secondly, his wife's name is Gurcharan Kaur not Lady Devi. --] 21:28, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
: RS use the word "re-elected" ] (]) 08:31, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
::@] An official publication should be treated as more reliable source than opinion of an editor. ] (]) 17:24, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
:::Both words are used in RS. See the ] article for example. it can stay as is. ] (]) 11:25, 3 January 2025 (UTC)


== Request to update Manmohan Singh's infobox picture ==
Third, it's a faux pas for ]. --someone else 00:45, 19 October 2005 (UTC)


The current file on the infobox (the official portrait) is over 21 years of age. This image, File:Prime_Minister_Dr._Manmohan_Singh_in_March_2014.jpg, shows a more recent image. Should we remove the official portrait and replace it with this one? ](] • ]) 00:17, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
== Urdu ==


:How recent an image is is no longer relevant now that the subject of the article is deceased. Even then, with high office holders like PMs, Presidents, VPs, etc. we use official portraits regardless of how old they are. Look at Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, Kevin Rudd, etc. Look at Mr. Singh's predecessor, Atal Bihari Vajpayee, his official portrait is from 1998 but it captures him during his time in office and is years old. ] (]) 20:49, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
Why cant we keep his name in Urdu on the main page? He was after all educated in Urdu, and it is an India language. --] 21:30, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
:] is an Indian language and (with due respect to Urdu) so are ]. But, I didn't know that his complete early education was in Urdu. If this was true, we can mention it somewhere in the article. But, I would personally like to have only ] script (<s>since it's his mother tongue</s> since his ] ] is commonly written using that script) and not even <s>Hindi</s> ] as otherwise it doesn't look good to read with too much non-English text in the English wikipedia. -- ] <sup>\] \]</sup> 04:06, August 2, 2005 (UTC)

Gurmukhi is not a language. It is a script used to write a language. Many people confuse Punjabi and Gurmukhi. They are two different things. Punjabi can be written in any script. {{user|65.26.247.222}} August 16, 2005.

:Yes you're right. I'm sorry. I now correct it to Gurmukhi script. -- ] <sup>\] \]</sup> 08:14, August 17, 2005 (UTC)

==The blue turbaned bandit strikes again - this time at this own people==
The sikhs of the world had high hopes for the Indian prime minster, a fellow sikh. But now he has stabbed them in the back as well, just like he stabbed Pakistan in the back when he went sailing to the US. I'm referring to the report just released by his government which says that NO ONE is going to be persecuted for the '''3000''' sikhs who were mercilessly robbed of their most precious possession, their lives, after the ensuing riots that followed the extermination of that fat ass cow called Indira Ghandi, who was sent packing the hell out of this planet by the self-sacrificing act of a courageous and bold sikh, who was her bodyguard and who struck her down. I wonder what other ugly surprises this guy has up his sleeve for anyone who makes the deadly (sometimes fatal), mistake of trusting him. ] 00:01, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

==POV==
As an American university student stereotype, I know next to nothing about Dr. Singh or his career. But the article seems needlessly one-sided. It implies, for example, that Singh singlehandedly saved the economy. THis almost never is the case. And I can think of very few people who deserve a statement as broad as "held in high esteem, and regard, all over the country and the world." The Village Idiot's comments do not belong in the article, but they imply that ''some'' people find things about Singh to criticize. These need to be mentioned in the article. Fishal 04:37, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

:I totally agree. ] 02:41, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

I'm also an American, but I know a lot about Singh (on account of my parents' being from India). You are right about the lack of a NPOV. I went through the article and made it sound more like what Singh actually did, and I removed the NPOV sign. However, you should read a bit about Singh elsewhere, like on the BBC. While he didn't do everything, he did engineer the economic liberalization package that was the first step toward a series of future liberalizations. (Sort of like Deng Xiao Ping). After Sonia Gandhi decided not to take the PMship, the markets in Bombay plummetted, but they rose sharply a few days later when she announced that Singh would become PM instead of her. Read what I wrote and see if it's okay.

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When we think of Manmohan Singh, the image of a calm, composed leader often comes to mind. Known for steering India through economic liberalization, Singh was also a figure of many contradictions. Behind his soft-spoken demeanor lay a leader whose tenure was marked by both groundbreaking achievements and significant controversies. As we reflect on his journey, three controversial aspects of his leadership stand out.


in all the line referring him as Mr. Singh, it should be replaced by Dr. Singh Pramit.b.dutta (talk) 17:17, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: per MOS:CREDENTIAL: the subject is not widely known as "Dr. Singh". M.Bitton (talk) 17:49, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
In official communication, he is referred to as 'Dr.'.Riteze (talk) 11:34, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
 Not done We do not use honorifics per WP:NCIN MOS:DOC unless it is part of the article name/WP:COMMONNAME. If the article name contained "Dr." as a prefix then we had to use it. Quotes in the article that are taken verbatim are exceptions. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 13:02, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
Why do we rely on consensus? I thought we would rely on the individual person himself, as he is dead and this is a memorial for him, in many ways. I would love to hear the reasoning behind this. SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk) 01:22, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages is not a one-person blog but an encyclopedia supposed edited by a community of users who agree to set common standards to prevent edit-warring and make articles readable by all and not just singular individuals users with varied and sometimes ridiculous whims. 08:26, 29 December 2024 (UTC) Borgenland (talk) 08:26, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
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He died

 Already done -- Parnaval (talk) 05:37, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

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Want to Add Death Date place and Time 103.96.45.111 (talk) 17:04, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

 Already done place has been added; precise time would not be required in article -- Parnaval (talk) 05:40, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
what is the harm in adding the time? Riteze (talk) 11:22, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

Death

He died on 27 december 2024. He suddenly became unconcius and declared died at 9:51 pm in aiims hospital delhi. Rp1178 (talk) 18:33, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

All sources indicate he died on the night of 26 December 2024. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 18:34, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

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He was born in an undefined provinces in India. 49.183.134.174 (talk) 19:07, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

 Not done The sources support him being born in Gah (now in Punjab, Pakistan). - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 19:11, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

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49.204.11.64 (talk) 02:00, 27 December 2024 (UTC) Please add that Manmohan singh died in AIIMS, New Delhi

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</ref>Former Pr. Dr. Manmohan Singh has passed away, Appealing wikipedia to update the status.<ref> 152.58.72.48 (talk) 03:26, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

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The word 're-elected' should be changed to 're-appointed' in last line of 1st paragraph, as the Prime Minister of India is appointed by the president. Riteze (talk) 09:59, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: no evidence provided. It shall remain re-elected until further evidence is provided. 🗽Freedoxm🗽(talkcontribs) 02:25, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
It is mentioned in Constitution of India's article 75(1) on page 34. Riteze (talk) 10:34, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
RS use the word "re-elected" Rainsage (talk) 08:31, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
@Rainsage An official publication should be treated as more reliable source than opinion of an editor. Riteze (talk) 17:24, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
Both words are used in RS. See the Prime Minister of India article for example. it can stay as is. Rainsage (talk) 11:25, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Request to update Manmohan Singh's infobox picture

The current file on the infobox (the official portrait) is over 21 years of age. This image, File:Prime_Minister_Dr._Manmohan_Singh_in_March_2014.jpg, shows a more recent image. Should we remove the official portrait and replace it with this one? 🗽Freedoxm🗽(talkcontribs) 00:17, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

How recent an image is is no longer relevant now that the subject of the article is deceased. Even then, with high office holders like PMs, Presidents, VPs, etc. we use official portraits regardless of how old they are. Look at Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, Kevin Rudd, etc. Look at Mr. Singh's predecessor, Atal Bihari Vajpayee, his official portrait is from 1998 but it captures him during his time in office and is years old. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 20:49, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
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