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== Rm Misc? == |
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==Consequences of vandalism== |
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"On the '''June 6''', 2011 episode of "The Colbert Report", comedian Stephen Colbert suggested that all of his viewers vandalize the Misplaced Pages page for bell (instrument) and add the fragment "Used by Paul Revere to warn the British that hey, you're not going to succeed in taking our guns. USA!! USA!!". This was humorously treated as factual in a response by Sarah Palin on '''June 2''', 2011 about what she took away from her visit to Boston. " |
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The collection of examples seems to be more ] than anything. — ] (] & ]) 15:01, 17 July 2024 (UTC) |
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Are these dates mixed up or was this joke made after Sarah palin made the comment? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 08:16, 21 November 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:I'm pretty sure it was a reference to the Sarah Palin comment, but I don't remember for sure. ] (]) 16:05, 14 May 2012 (UTC) |
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: '''Concur''' - not sure what value this section adds. Are the list items ]? Seems like we’re not adhering to ] — ] (]) 18:18, 13 December 2024 (UTC) |
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== Update my name in the article == |
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==2006 and 2007== |
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It seems that these were the years when vandals were most active. Do statistics support it ? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 16:51, 4 February 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== A message for anyone who might want to get rid of the vandalism template == |
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* Specific text to be added or removed: Replace "Cobi Carter" with "Naomi Amethyst" |
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* Reason for the change: I no longer use the name Cobi Carter, so it should be updated per ] |
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<span style="color:#dbb5ff;font:bold 125% 'Brush Script MT',cursive;padding-left:.75em;padding-right:.5em">— ] ]</span> 03:25, 22 August 2024 (UTC) |
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:{{Respond|greencheck2|Done}} <!-- Template:ECOI --> ⸺(])] 17:36, 25 August 2024 (UTC) |
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== ClueBot NG == |
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I realize that since this is an article in namespace zero, and it ''does'' concern Misplaced Pages itself, ''and'' is able to exist with out being a ], it's gone pretty far down the line that most articles about Misplaced Pages haven't. I'm guessing that any simple reader reading this article who is not an editor will come along and read this article (although the odds are slim) and be able to know perfectly well what "vandalism" means in the Misplaced Pages department. I mean, take a look at ]. You see a tag to ] but you don't see one yo this article. And don't get me wrong: I wouldn't point out that this article should be deleted because it is a sort of "clone" of ], because I believe that it is important to tell the difference between an article and a policy or guideline. |
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Should ClueBot NG's user page be linked in its section? Fairly new to editing, and haven't really done so in years. ] (]) 20:09, 17 December 2024 (UTC) |
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]. ], ], ]. 11:51, 5 April 2012 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 1 January 2025 == |
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== Geographical nature == |
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Vandalism in Misplaced Pages is a function of the region. You can see lot of vandalism in developing-country-related-articles, whereas less in other nation related articles... |
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Can I get citations for this from anywhere? |
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(] (]) 11:01, 27 May 2012 (UTC)) |
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:And articles of current importance. ] (]) 15:24, 27 May 2012 (UTC) |
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== How does it affect Misplaced Pages? == |
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This article should state how quickly vandalism is reverted, an estimate of how many articles it affects, and so on. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</sub> 16:12, 10 February 2013 (UTC) |
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Please change "and/ore" to "and/or." <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 19:13, 13 March 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== The Irony == |
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Anyone else find it ironic that this article is semi-protected? |
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(won't be true after April 3, 2013) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 20:50, 16 March 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:The vandals apparently do. --<span style="border:1px solid #00007f;background:#07ffff"><font face="Times New Roman">]‧]‧]‧</font><font face="Lucida Handwriting">]</font></span> 19:22, 30 July 2013 (UTC) |
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No. You don't understand the meaning of irony. How ironic. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 21:37, October 4, 2018 (UTC)</small> |
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== ISBN == |
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{{Edit semi-protected|answered=yes}} |
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ISBN 10:0-596-51616-2 is incorrect, please remove "10:" from it as it means ]. |
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:] '''Done'''<!-- Template:ESp -->. There was also a typo in the ISBN (changed to 51516). --''']''' <small>(])</small> 18:59, 24 May 2013 (UTC) |
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== Image == |
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Right now, the article uses an image (]) of a page being edited. This is not what is relevant to most readers (I presume most readers to ''not'' edit the wiki), so I wonder if it would be better to use an image of an ''article'' that has been vandalized (i.e., not an image of a diff). There are ways this could be done innocuously--take a screenshot of a preview, take a screenshot of the permalink of that same diff, do it on an article copy in userspace. <b class="IPA">]</b> (]) 12:24, 24 June 2013 (UTC) |
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:I've uploaded a screenshot of the same edit with the vandalized text highlighted, if anyone else agrees. It might need to be cropped, so that the vandalized text is more noticeable. |
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] --<span style="border:1px solid #00007f;background:#07ffff"><font face="Times New Roman">]‧]‧]</font></span> 22:20, 19 July 2013 (UTC) |
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::{{done}} --<span style="border:1px solid #00007f;background:#07ffff"><font face="Times New Roman">]‧]‧]</font></span> 00:55, 20 July 2013 (UTC) |
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== Sarkeesian == |
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Well, if it's really necessary to keep the exact number of people who vandalized her page, let's at least try to remove needless speculation about the vandalizing of her page being somehow misogynistic (or, for that matter, a "campaign"), shall we? ] (]) 20:38, 1 August 2013 (UTC) |
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:Sorry if you don't see hateful, misogynist trolling as a big deal, but the ] used in this section say otherwise. ] (]) 22:44, 1 August 2013 (UTC) |
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::Source 21 (which is the only "reliable source" used for any of the content I edited) is a blog (a.k.a. not a particularly reliable source), which contains such POV gems as, among others: "Even if you don't like the idea - or don't believe that women are poorly represented in games (in which case, you would be wrong)". Instead, I suggest we take an actual reliable source (such as , and delete the POV stuff about the vandalism being a "campaign" and "misogynist". |
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== Typo== |
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"Locking articles so only established users, or in some cases only administrators, can edit them. <i>Semi-protected</i>articles are those that..." There is a missing space after semi-protected. |
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:fixed, thanks for bringing it to our attention. ] ] 17:37, 1 October 2013 (UTC) |
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== Anita Sarkesian and The Oatmeal == |
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Two suggestions: |
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# Remove or rework the section on Anita Sarkesian. It's written like an advertisement for her purpose and her blog and seems to insult the vandals by calling them misogynists, implying that the issue was sexism and not that Anita's project had faults which Misplaced Pages ended up being used as a conduit for expression. |
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# Add in a section for ], more specifically, ]'s encouragement of vandalizing . |
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Thanks, |
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] (]) 17:48, 20 June 2014 (UTC) |
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:Regarding #1...In other words, she was "asking for it" ? No, I think we'll pass on your decidedly misogynist spin on the affair. ] (]) 17:53, 20 June 2014 (UTC) |
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::Who's "we"? Are you a mental collective or something? This is exactly what I'm talking about. Cut it out with persecution complexes, I just want dumb shit removed from the article. ] (]) 17:57, 20 June 2014 (UTC) |
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:::It is an accurate and sourced description of what actually happened. It will not be removed. ] (]) 18:10, 20 June 2014 (UTC) |
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== External links modified == |
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Hello fellow Wikipedians, |
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I have just added archive links to {{plural:1|one external link|1 external links}} on ]. Please take a moment to review . If necessary, add {{tlx|cbignore}} after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{tlx|nobots|deny{{=}}InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes: |
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*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20110119215141/http://www.tvsquad.com:80/2006/08/01/did-colbert-hack-wikipedia-video/ to http://www.tvsquad.com/2006/08/01/did-colbert-hack-wikipedia-video/ |
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When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the ''checked'' parameter below to '''true''' to let others know. |
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Cheers.—]<small><sub style="margin-left:-14.9ex;color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS">]:Online</sub></small> 04:55, 1 February 2016 (UTC) |
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== My missing link == |
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I posted an external link twice and have been reverted twice by user ]. I don't have time to get into an edit war (and to be honest, I don't have patience to wade through all the external-link-Wiki-regulations), so I'm just going to post it here and let the chips fall where they may. |
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* (from ]) ] (]) 15:50, 5 February 2016 (UTC) |
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*:There is not much to distinguish this from a blog post by a banned user with an axe to grind. The link falls well into ]. -- ] <sup>]</sup> 18:35, 5 February 2016 (UTC) |
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== Citation needed tag needed == |
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The line "This is currently unlikely to be the case, considering the reliability and speed of anti-vandal bots and recent changes patrollers" definitely needs a citation needed tag. I came to this article because recently I am constantly finding little bits of surreptitious vandalism and reverting/undoing it, and it's usually not the old-style blatant vandalism, but damages to an article's formatting or sneaking in very small (i.e., a word or two), but very wrong, science. I know this wouldn't be at first assumed to be vandalism, but it's very frequently accompanied with a misleading edit summary (e.g., "fixing typo"). I know "AGF" and all, but the frequency of these problems in science articles seems in my sampling (very unscientific sampling, that is) to be increasing. Hence I really think this line needs a cite, or something to justify it. It almost seems like there's a small army of anons and single-edit users now that have figured out blatant vandalism won't stand and so want to degrade the quality of the encyclopedia with a thousand needles. |
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] (]) 08:25, 3 March 2016 (UTC) |
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Also, "Blocking is not considered to be a punitive action on Misplaced Pages" needs a rephrase to be more objective. I don't know for sure but maybe, "The consensus position of Misplaced Pages editors is that blocking is not a punitive action." Anyone could "consider" it however they wish; if someone is blocked and they feel it's punitive, then it's considered a punitive action by someone (and I'm sure a lot of people have felt that way). ] (]) 08:31, 3 March 2016 (UTC) |
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:I agree that the statement needs a citation tag, since it doesn't ring true to me, either. I also consider that it may become outdated as "vandalism technology" evolves in the anti-vandalism arms race. As well as the "fiddle vandalism" you note, I've recently seen evidence (from sources outside of Misplaced Pages) of ] vandalism (see "dank meme" , and "hypothetical" vandalism , , ). Much like "media sourced" vandalism (see Stephen Colbert: ], ]), instead of a concentrated effort by a small cabal of meat-puppets, the vandalism arises through social media among a loose group of people where it becomes a "thing" within their community. ] (]) 10:59, 3 March 2016 (UTC) |
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::Yeah; the more I look into this vandalism, the more complicated I realize it is. Stephen Colbert was one part I knew about long ago, but it just seems to get worse.... |
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::] (]) 09:41, 5 March 2016 (UTC) |
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::I've amended both sentences mentioned by the OP to take account of the concerns expressed here. —]] 17:13, 5 March 2016 (UTC) |
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== Add the Jontron dispute! == |
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Jonathan Jafari or Jontron was shown in his 2016 Christmas Special editing the page for The Santa Clause 3: The Escape Clause to show the plot as "Tim Allen and Martin Short get some serious $$$$$$$$$$$$ for XMAS." Many people followed suit. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 20:12, 4 February 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== This should be called Internet Vandalism == |
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Anyone can vandalize any Wiki page, even off Misplaced Pages, including Wikia. So why not rename the title to '''''Internet Vandalism'''''? ] 21:20, 26 March 2017 (UTC) |
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: The article would need a fundamental rewrite if it was retitled "Internet vandalism". The article as it is written is specifically about vandalism on Misplaced Pages. It does not discuss any vandalism outside of Misplaced Pages. ] 21:46, 26 March 2017 (UTC) |
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== Merge == |
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{{atop|Inactive discussion that has no chance of succeeding anyway. See also ].—] (] | ]) 20:08, 8 June 2018 (UTC)}} |
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Shouldn't we merge this page with ]? They're practically both the same! ] (]) 13:18, 28 June 2017 (UTC) |
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: '''Oppose''' They're different namespaces, different intended audiences and thus slightly different content. ] (]) 13:30, 28 June 2017 (UTC) |
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: '''Strong oppose''', and I'm fairly certain it's prohibited by policy. Any similarity is just a coincidence. This page is an encyclopedia article, the other is a project management page. ] (]) 14:38, 28 June 2017 (UTC) |
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== Merge == |
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I have merged ] into this article, following consensus. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 15:59, 14 July 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 18 July 2017 on ClueBot NG == |
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{{edit semi-protected|Vandalism on Misplaced Pages|answered=yes}} |
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{{edit semi-protected|Vandalism on Misplaced Pages|answered=yes}} |
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Change "Vandalizing Misplaced Pages or otherwise causing disruption is against the site's terms of use." To "Vandalizing Misplaced Pages or otherwise causing disruption is against the site's terms of use." because move full stop before citation. ] (]) 23:51, 1 January 2025 (UTC) |
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I have found a couple of errors in the newly-created section named "ClueBot NG". After saying the words "Cobi Carter in 2010", there should be a space between the comma and the opening bracket. After that, the word 'Cluebot' should be changed to 'ClueBot', the proper name of the old ClueBot before the NG version took over. At refs 18 and 19, the full stop should be before the two tags not after them. |
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:{{done}}<!-- Template:ESp --> – ] (] <b>·</b> ]) 01:10, 2 January 2025 (UTC) |
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That's the mistakes I have found. Cheers, ] (]) 18:06, 18 July 2017 (UTC) |
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:] '''Done'''<!-- Template:ESp --> ] ] ] 18:13, 18 July 2017 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 3 January 2025 == |
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I will never vandalism. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 14:16, 23 July 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 9 September 2017 == |
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{{edit semi-protected|Vandalism on Misplaced Pages|answered=yes}} |
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] (]) 20:09, 9 September 2017 (UTC) |
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add ] to the ] section. ] (]) 08:49, 3 January 2025 (UTC) |
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:] '''Not done:''' it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format.<!-- Template:ESp --> ] ] ] 20:18, 9 September 2017 (UTC) |
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==Misplaced Pages - what about full protection?== |
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This article says that Misplaced Pages is an open encyclopeadia that anybody can edit and then goes on to say that this is with the exception of articles that are semi-protected. Surely, this exception also applies to articles that are fully protected, i.e. sections of Misplaced Pages that only administrators are allowed to edit. ] (]) 15:56, 30 September 2017 (UTC) |
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== Ajit Pai page vandalism == |
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When the news about net neutrality was released, some people vandalized this page. Should we add this issue to the page, discuss it if you like. |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Ajit_Pai&diff=prev&oldid=790192200 |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Ajit_Pai&diff=next&oldid=811401847 <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 03:19, 16 December 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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] (]) 02:32, 17 December 2017 (UTC) |
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:That's a good idea. Could you provide a third-party source which discusses this vandalism? —] (] | ]) 02:12, 26 May 2018 (UTC) |
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== Kerchoo is life == |
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Kerchoo <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 23:35, 14 January 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Typo == |
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There's a typo near the end of the current article. Dana Boente's name is misspelled as "Dana J. Botne". Could someone with editing permissions correct the typo? <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 20:48, 6 March 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== More irony == |
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It'd be great to fix this: "The challenge from vandalism in Misplaced Pages was once characterized by the Former Encyclopædia Britannica editor-in-chief Robert McHenry ". One of the citations is a bad link (which supports the point I'm making here), the other is certainly not about vandalism. McHenry was almost certainly talking about the crowd-sourced nature of Misplaced Pages, and not vandalism specifically. Misplaced Pages is a product of the normal distribution of its contributors. These are not the kind of professional, correctness-obsessed, writers of a reputable encyclopedia such as the Britannica. Misplaced Pages is not reputable; it's similar to a public restroom in exactly the ways McHenry describes it. Hence, it is to be expected that this topic (and every other one here) contains errors and omissions and as is evident it does (and they do). That's the point McHenry is making. Vandalism is malicious degradation of the Misplaced Pages corpus; errors introduced in the ordinary course of business are degradations resulting from incompetence. And, as a general rule of thumb, it's wise not to attribute to malice what can be feasibly attributed to incompetence. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </small> |
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== Federal crime == |
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I would like to propose that it be made a federal crime to vandalize Misplaced Pages and similar wikis. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 21:37, October 4, 2018 (UTC)</small> |
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:]. ] (]) 16:31, 23 October 2018 (UTC) |
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:{{Done}} ] (]) 16:35, 3 January 2025 (UTC) |
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==Untitled== |
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WikipediA allows self-promoting articles by individuals making claims to be an company or LLC. The State Corporation for a state can clearly show that company is "Not in Good Standing" for around a decade. Yet, any attempt to correct the self promoting article for a company has complains of Vandalism. |
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We use for example www.Mechjock.com in a article to show the "company headquarters" State Corporation Commission status as proof WikipediA doesn't care about citations, accuracy or public concern. WikipediA should set a clear policy that any article related to a company, LLC or business should cite the State's Corporation Commissions Standing or status. It would protect from fake post that some entity is the "official" representative. It would also promote stronger copyright enforcement. |
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<!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 06:39, 27 October 2018</small> |
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Should ClueBot NG's user page be linked in its section? Fairly new to editing, and haven't really done so in years. korbo (talk) 20:09, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
Change "Vandalizing Misplaced Pages or otherwise causing disruption is against the site's terms of use." To "Vandalizing Misplaced Pages or otherwise causing disruption is against the site's terms of use." because move full stop before citation. 111.220.61.163 (talk) 23:51, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Done – Anne drew (talk · contribs) 01:10, 2 January 2025 (UTC)