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== Twitter split proposal == |
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== split twitter to seperate article == |
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I propose that the section ] be split out to ]. It is extremely long and takes up the majority of this article. ] (]) 01:26, 31 July 2020 (UTC) |
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Due to the substantial size of the twitter section, would it be worth splitting it into its own article? ] (]) 10:49, 17 February 2024 (UTC) |
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:'''Seconded'''; handle this according to ]; spin off ] - ] ] 18:05, 31 July 2024 (UTC) |
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Pinging {{ping|Finnusertop|GHcool|JFG|Axisixa|Nanophosis}} (previous participants of a ]) ] (]) 00:19, 9 August 2020 (UTC) |
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*'''Oppose''' pretty much the entire article is Donald Trump's Twitter activity. The remaining sections are a few paragraphs and don't add much to the article length-splitting them out of the article would not alter the length and create a very awkward stub, "Donald Trump's activity on social media (excluding Twitter)".<br>The real reason this article is long is because Trump says a lot of crazy stuff on Twitter and we document it, it's that simple. If you have a problem with that, take it up with him and see how far you get. So it's a given that the article is long, but that's not a problem in my view because it's well organised and it's possible to find sections you care about. ] (]) 10:00, 9 August 2020 (UTC) |
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* Unnecessary. Trump's social media activity outside Twitter is not notable. — ] <sup>]</sup> 11:39, 9 August 2020 (UTC) |
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*:Perhaps a way forward would be to rename this article to ], and insert a brief paragraph about his other social media activity. What do you think? — ] <sup>]</sup> 11:40, 9 August 2020 (UTC) |
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::: This sounds like a good solution to me. My original concern is that the Twitter activity overshadows the "other" social media activity. Perhaps this article was named this way to match with the ] article. ] (]) 21:14, 9 August 2020 (UTC) |
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* '''Oppose''' - As others have said, Trump's activity outside of Twitter is not worthy of attention, and I doubt any of it is actually written by him anyway. A better solution would be shortening the article, which is more of a melange of certain tweets that have gained notoriety than an summation of his Twitter activity - I doubt we need three paragraphs on Britain First; nobody remembers that. At the very least, Twitter shouln't be a top-level heading, it makes the article very difficult to read - it could be laid out more like ] instead. - <span class="nowrap" style="font-weight:bold;font-size:85%;transform:rotate(358deg);display: inline-block;">] <span style="opacity:.5;padding-left:2px">] ]</span></span> 06:16, 11 August 2020 (UTC) |
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::Do you support JFG's proposal to rename the article to ]? I would be okay with that solution, if we are to mainly focus on his Twitter activity. ] (]) 00:34, 12 August 2020 (UTC) |
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:::Personally, I don't think it makes much sense if the article still covers other social media platforms. But none of them are really that relevant anyway, outside of his old Youtube videos, so they could be removed or relegated to a minor mention/paragraph. - <span class="nowrap" style="font-weight:bold;font-size:85%;transform:rotate(358deg);display: inline-block;">] <span style="opacity:.5;padding-left:2px">] ]</span></span> 03:59, 12 August 2020 (UTC) |
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* '''Approve''' deletionists are responsible of this situation. The proposal makes total sense. --] (]) 03:09, 9 January 2021 (UTC) |
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== Comment by 145.53.114.244 == |
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== "Enemy of the people" == |
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What has happened to Misplaced Pages. When exactly did Misplaced Pages pages become as loaded as certain far left news articles? I am deeply saddened by this turnover. Misplaced Pages used to be the figurehead of the internet, the manifestation of the fantastic dream that the internet would serve to promote free speech and the spread of knowledge. Can you recover, please? <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 17:54, 29 October 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Misplaced Pages still is. We however don't promote stuff not covered by ]. ] ] <sup>|</sup> ] 15:15, 30 October 2020 (UTC) |
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:Do you have any specific suggestions for how to improve the article's neutrality? ] (]) 04:24, 9 January 2021 (UTC) |
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: In answer to your question "When exactly did Misplaced Pages pages become as loaded as certain far left news articles", the answer is around November. It was pretty good before then. Now it is filled with information from only one side, with no coverage of opposing viewpoints at all. For this reason it has become useless for me as a resource on subjects like this one. It's become polluted like our air by factories churning out smog and smoke. Really sad. It's a shame, it was really valuable. ] (]) 07:58, 9 January 2021 (UTC) |
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Please see ]. - ] ] 17:56, 31 July 2024 (UTC) |
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:: {{Reply to|Kenreader}} When describing controversial subjects, Misplaced Pages aims to provide balanced, impartial coverage of all notable viewpoints. Understand that this does not mean ], but a weighted balance proportional to each viewpoint's appearance in ]. |
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Here you go: ] . It looks nobody else cares. - ] ] 04:22, 5 August 2024 (UTC) |
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:: If you have any ideas for how to improve this particular article, this is the page to discuss them. If you have any specific proposals on how to improve Misplaced Pages as a whole, try the ]. If you want to spread the word that Misplaced Pages is biased partisan garbage, maybe start a blog? ] (]) 16:57, 9 January 2021 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 16 August 2024 use tweet ref-name not abuse dummy ref == |
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== gab.com == |
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Is this his official ] account: https://gab.com/realDonaldTrump ? If it is then this article should link to it. ] "is an English-language alt-tech social networking service". (In the days before mega-corporation/mainstream websites there were no "alt-tech" websites but just "websites".) --] (]) 10:13, 9 January 2021 (UTC) |
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== Trump "quote" == |
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Is the current "quoted" tweet necessary, and if so, is that the most representative tweet? I get that looking for new tweets may be a tad difficult now, but still. ] (]) 11:42, 9 January 2021 (UTC) |
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== Tweet on article beginning == |
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The tweet on the article's beginning is currently not visible. Please fix by linking to an archive of the tweet. Thanks! --] (]) 11:48, 9 January 2021 (UTC) |
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:The {{tl|tweet}} template currently does not have this function. I've requested it be added.--<span style="text-shadow:#FFD700 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em">] ]</span> 12:06, 9 January 2021 (UTC) |
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== Myspace? == |
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Trump also supposedly has a Myspace account: https://myspace.com/donald_trump_offical. Not sure it's real. --<span style="text-shadow:#FFD700 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em">] ]</span> 12:12, 9 January 2021 (UTC) |
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== Tweets published on @POTUS == |
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Hi ], thank you for your edit on the usage of @POTUS over the last day. However, you used Newsweek as a source, which is generally not reliable according to ]. I was able to find a Washington Post article to back up the first sentence of your edit, but unfortunately no reliable source for the second ({{tq|In these tweets, he complained about Twitter's ban and accused the social media platform, without evidence, of colluding in a conspiracy with the Democratic Party and "the Radical Left" to get him banned, while repeating the rhetoric that first got him banned from his main Twitter account}}). While I am not disputing that this may be true, I was wondering if you could help me find a ]-compliant source to back this claim up?--] (]) 15:57, 9 January 2021 (UTC) |
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:I was able to find an article from US News, which is considered reliable, that clarifies the situation surrounding his circumventions . I would suggest changing the paragraph to this: |
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:Trump tried to circumvent this ban by briefly making a series of tweets on the @POTUS Twitter account, but the posts were deleted within minutes of them being tweeted. Trump also tried to circumvent the ban by posting a statement on the @TeamTrump campaign Twitter account in which he complained about Twitter's ban and accused the social media platform, without evidence, of colluding in a conspiracy with the Democratic Party and "the Radical Left" to get him banned, while repeating the rhetoric that first got him banned from his main Twitter account. This account was also banned after the statement from Trump was posted. |
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:] (]) 17:55, 9 January 2021 (UTC) |
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::I slightly expanded the paragraph to reference the suspension of the official campaign handle with a reference to NPR.--] (]) 18:12, 9 January 2021 (UTC) |
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:::I removed the unreliable newsweek source and replaced it with the reliable US News source. I also fixed the paragraph to say that Trump's without evidence claim was made on his campaign account and not the POTUS account. ] (]) 18:58, 9 January 2021 (UTC) |
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== New Twitter? == |
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Is perhaps https://twitter.com/45_POTUS_Trump a new sockpuppet account of Trumps? ] (]) 18:40, 9 January 2021 (UTC) |
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:Hi there, any ] to back that up?--] (]) 19:53, 9 January 2021 (UTC) |
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== Does Twitter really "request" the removal of Tweets? == |
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I changed the wording from "request" to "demand" in the section that talks about the temporary suspension of Mr Trump's Twitter account, because the fact is, when Twitter forces a user to delete certain tweets in order to have their account reinstated, it is inaccurate to describe such a thing as a "request". It is not "pov" (point of view, or mere opinion) to describe the fact that he had to remove the tweets to get his account reinstated as coercion. It is more accurate than saying "request", which, if you look it up in the dictionary, means "asking politely". Contrast that with "order" or "demand", which involves an element of ]. |
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-- Mr Gillespie ] (]) 03:49, 10 January 2021 (UTC) |
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== Stock market reaction to Trump ban == |
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This should be here. is one source.— ] • ] • ] • 20:25, 12 January 2021 (UTC) |
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This is what I started to add, but it doesn't really say Trump being banned is the reason. |
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<nowiki>==Stock market reaction to bans==</nowiki><br> |
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On January 11, 2021, stocks of ], ], Apple, Facebook and Twitter fell significantly, David Keller of StockCharts.com credited fear of increased regulation for the selloff. <ref>{{cite news|url=https://www.kiplinger.com/investing/stocks/602060/stock-market-today-011121-big-tech-stocks-thumped-after-banning-trump|title=Stock Market Today: Big Tech Stocks Thumped After Banning Trump|last=Woodley|first=Kyle|work=]|date=11 January 2021|accessdate=12 January 2021}}</ref><br> |
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— ] • ] • ] • 21:12, 12 January 2021 (UTC) |
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Hi {{U|Vchimpanzee}}, I found an as well as an , however I to think that stock prices are not really ] for an article on Donald Trump's usage of social media.--] (]) 21:43, 12 January 2021 (UTC) |
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:Now that it's clear the headlines are misleading, I would agree.— ] • ] • ] • 21:58, 12 January 2021 (UTC) |
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== Is Sockpuppeting the correct term? == |
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Hello, UK reader here. I'm reading this sentence: "''Allies of Trump who posted on his behalf, including''........" and noticed that the hyperlink in "who posted on his behalf" is linked to a wikipedia article on sockpuppets. Is this correct? I thought from other media articles that the people who posted for the (former) US President after he was banned did so of their own accord and not using false accounts. It struck me as the wrong link. The external articles I read on Gary Coby said he renamed his Twitter account himself and no false accounts were created. Is that sockpuppeting? |
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Doesn't affect me either way but just something for thoughts. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 22:02, 21 January 2021 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Verified symbol == |
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Do we really need a verified symbol for the tweet he posted when other articles with tweets do not have the symbol <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 10:17, 11 February 2021 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 13 February 2021 == |
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{{edit semi-protected|Social media use by Donald Trump|answered=yes}} |
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In the "Satire and archives" section, please delete the first paragraph, which currently reads 'In May 2017, Trump misspelled the word "coverage" as "covfefe," which quickly turned into a meme on the Internet.' This event is covered in more detail in the "Other controversial tweets" section of this article as well as the separate ] article, which both correctly state that the "coverage" interpretation is merely speculative. It might be relevant to describe here how the covfefe tweet has been the subject of satire, but there is no such material here at this time. Therefore this statement is out of place and incorrect, and the best result will come from simply removing it. ] (]) 00:40, 13 February 2021 (UTC) |
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:] '''Done'''<!-- Template:ESp -->. ] (]) 04:59, 13 February 2021 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 14 February 2021 == |
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{{edit semi-protected|Social media use by Donald Trump|answered=yes}} |
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In the "Satire and archives" section, please change |
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In January 2019, Trump served hamburgers from McDonald's to the Clemson Tigers champion football team due to the White House's catering staff going on strike. |
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This actually shows the clickable ref with the URL and is the proper way to avoid cite errors with multiple tweets. ] (]) 11:52, 16 August 2024 (UTC) |
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In January 2019, Trump served hamburgers from McDonald's to the Clemson Tigers champion football team due to the White House's catering staff being furloughed during a government shutdown. |
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{{done}}<!-- Template:ESp -->. Thank you for your contributions. — ] ] 12:31, 16 August 2024 (UTC) |
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The text "government shutdown" should be cross-linked to the ] article. |
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== Twitter followers? == |
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This change is already supported by the existing reference, which does not say anything about a "strike." |
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In the lede, it says he had 88.9 million followers when he was banned from Twitter, but later in the body it says 88.7 million. Both statements are cited, but which is correct? - ] (]) 00:43, 5 October 2024 (UTC) |
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Thanks. ] (]) 21:51, 14 February 2021 (UTC) |
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== Mentioning Trumps hacked passwords. == |
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:] '''Done'''<!-- Template:ESp -->. I slightly reworded it to be more specific than "a government shutdown" but it was basically what you wrote. ] (]) 01:23, 15 February 2021 (UTC) |
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I noticed that it is alleged that the twitter account password was used in the passed on LinkedIn. |
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::It looks good. Thanks! ] (]) 01:54, 15 February 2021 (UTC) |
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Is it ok to place on Misplaced Pages a password he may use again? ] (]) 01:17, 14 November 2024 (UTC) |
In the lede, it says he had 88.9 million followers when he was banned from Twitter, but later in the body it says 88.7 million. Both statements are cited, but which is correct? - Adolphus79 (talk) 00:43, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
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Done. Thank you for your contributions. — BerryForPerpetuity (talk) 12:31, 16 August 2024 (UTC)