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== split twitter to seperate article == |
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Due to the substantial size of the twitter section, would it be worth splitting it into its own article? ] (]) 10:49, 17 February 2024 (UTC) |
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:'''Seconded'''; handle this according to ]; spin off ] - ] ] 18:05, 31 July 2024 (UTC) |
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== "Enemy of the people" == |
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Please see ]. - ] ] 17:56, 31 July 2024 (UTC) |
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Here you go: ] . It looks nobody else cares. - ] ] 04:22, 5 August 2024 (UTC) |
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== Twitter split proposal == |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 16 August 2024 use tweet ref-name not abuse dummy ref == |
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I propose that the section ] be split out to ]. It is extremely long and takes up the majority of this article. ] (]) 01:26, 31 July 2020 (UTC) |
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Pinging {{ping|Finnusertop|GHcool|JFG|Axisixa|Nanophosis}} (previous participants of a ]) ] (]) 00:19, 9 August 2020 (UTC) |
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*'''Oppose''' pretty much the entire article is Donald Trump's Twitter activity. The remaining sections are a few paragraphs and don't add much to the article length-splitting them out of the article would not alter the length and create a very awkward stub, "Donald Trump's activity on social media (excluding Twitter)".<br>The real reason this article is long is because Trump says a lot of crazy stuff on Twitter and we document it, it's that simple. If you have a problem with that, take it up with him and see how far you get. So it's a given that the article is long, but that's not a problem in my view because it's well organised and it's possible to find sections you care about. ] (]) 10:00, 9 August 2020 (UTC) |
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* Unnecessary. Trump's social media activity outside Twitter is not notable. — ] <sup>]</sup> 11:39, 9 August 2020 (UTC) |
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*:Perhaps a way forward would be to rename this article to ], and insert a brief paragraph about his other social media activity. What do you think? — ] <sup>]</sup> 11:40, 9 August 2020 (UTC) |
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::: This sounds like a good solution to me. My original concern is that the Twitter activity overshadows the "other" social media activity. Perhaps this article was named this way to match with the ] article. ] (]) 21:14, 9 August 2020 (UTC) |
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* '''Oppose''' - As others have said, Trump's activity outside of Twitter is not worthy of attention, and I doubt any of it is actually written by him anyway. A better solution would be shortening the article, which is more of a melange of certain tweets that have gained notoriety than an summation of his Twitter activity - I doubt we need three paragraphs on Britain First; nobody remembers that. At the very least, Twitter shouln't be a top-level heading, it makes the article very difficult to read - it could be laid out more like ] instead. - <span class="nowrap" style="font-weight:bold;font-size:85%;transform:rotate(358deg);display: inline-block;">] <span style="opacity:.5;padding-left:2px">] ]</span></span> 06:16, 11 August 2020 (UTC) |
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::Do you support JFG's proposal to rename the article to ]? I would be okay with that solution, if we are to mainly focus on his Twitter activity. ] (]) 00:34, 12 August 2020 (UTC) |
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:::Personally, I don't think it makes much sense if the article still covers other social media platforms. But none of them are really that relevant anyway, outside of his old Youtube videos, so they could be removed or relegated to a minor mention/paragraph. - <span class="nowrap" style="font-weight:bold;font-size:85%;transform:rotate(358deg);display: inline-block;">] <span style="opacity:.5;padding-left:2px">] ]</span></span> 03:59, 12 August 2020 (UTC) |
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* '''Approve''' deletionists are responsible of this situation. The proposal makes total sense. --] (]) 03:09, 9 January 2021 (UTC) |
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* '''Support''' the most important topic here is Trump's use of Twitter. It might make sense to bundle the Facebook/etc. information with content on his appearances on Fox News, etc. ] (power~enwiki, ], ]) 17:57, 28 April 2021 (UTC) |
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== From the Desk of Donald J. Trump == |
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This actually shows the clickable ref with the URL and is the proper way to avoid cite errors with multiple tweets. ] (]) 11:52, 16 August 2024 (UTC) |
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]: "From the Desk of Donald J. Trump" had been a section of the Save America website (donaldjtrump.com), but the phrase "From the Desk of Donald J. Trump" no longer appears on that website, as far as I can tell. Do you have a source for this statement? '''"Multiple news outlets reported in early June that it was permanently shut down after less than a month, however posts resumed by mid-June as site operations continued."''' Today I see a "News" section of the Save America website, which contains many items, many of which are labeled "Statement by Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States of America." There are a couple news items from January 27 and 28 of this year (i.e. shortly after he left office), and the first one labeled "Statement by..." is dated February 16.<ref>{{cite news |last1=Trump |first1=Donald |title=Statement by Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States of America |url=https://www.donaldjtrump.com/news/statement-by-donald-j-trump-45th-president-of-the-united-states-of-america |access-date=23 October 2021 |publisher=Save America (donaldjtrump.com) |date=16 February 2021}}</ref> I don't know if these are relevant, since the media reports said that "From the Desk of Donald J. Trump" was a section of the website launched on May 4 and shut down in early June. I don't see any media reports saying that it came back in mid-June, nor do I see the "From the Desk..." branding anywhere now in October. (In case it matters, Save America has "Statement by..." posts dated May 3 and May 5, but nothing dated May 4.) Can you please clarify what you mean by saying that it came back? If you mean that he's still using the Save America website, let's say that. - ] (]) 20:45, 23 October 2021 (UTC) |
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{{done}}<!-- Template:ESp -->. Thank you for your contributions. — ] ] 12:31, 16 August 2024 (UTC) |
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: Because no source was provided, I reverted the change from the article. If anyone can confirm that Save America ever restored its "From the Desk of Donald J. Trump" website feature post-June 2021, please provide a source. - ] (]) 14:47, 24 October 2021 (UTC) |
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:: Dude, give me a chance to reply, I don't ''live'' on Misplaced Pages. Seriously, the basis for my careful re-wording of that sentence and provision of an additional citation is as follows. In another WP talk page, an anonymous partisan complained about anti-Trump bias in WP, saying "From the Desk of Donald J Trump" was declared to be defunct by WP when in fact it was still live. It continued with other things that were less coherent and not amenable to follow up. I quickly opened a new tab, did a search, and found the person had a point. This is the site that came up right at the top: https://thedeskofdonaldtrump.com/ The site is the source -- it's live and it's distinct from Save America that you mention. Or so it seems. On the basis of this I had reworded the sentence you took issue with. Interestingly, I frequently have several different browsers open and at that time I was in Edge, whose default search is Bing, and this site was a top hit. But in preparing a response to you today I happen to be in Chrome whose default is Google and the same search terms fail to turn it up at least in the first 90 hits before I gave up. Last week, before editing, I glanced at the site's "About" section which seemed superficially okay. Upon close examination of this site, one will find that it lacks the word "From" and that the About page has links to Save America. So while these posts are legitimately from Trump, the site itself appears to be a third party effort. A lack of new reports about a "return" of the site would not have concerned me per se because, hey, we all know the media is biased, right? Anyway, had I searched through Google to begin with, I would not have been spoofed and just seen pages and pages of hits from around June 2-4 about the demise of the site. So, bottom line, your revert is correct and the original sentence saying "From the Desk of Donald J. Trump" is defunct should stand. ] (]) 16:41, 4 November 2021 (UTC) |
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In the lede, it says he had 88.9 million followers when he was banned from Twitter, but later in the body it says 88.7 million. Both statements are cited, but which is correct? - ] (]) 00:43, 5 October 2024 (UTC) |
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Participate in the deletion discussion at the ]. —] (]) 23:33, 9 April 2021 (UTC) |
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== Mentioning Trumps hacked passwords. == |
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== Removal of "On the Chinese internet" == |
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I noticed that it is alleged that the twitter account password was used in the passed on LinkedIn. |
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The section "]" doesn't appear to belong here: it isn't about Donald Trump's use of Chinese (or any) social media, but rather about how Trump was discussed in Chinese social media and the various (nick)names used for him. It ought to be removed, but removed to where? There's no "Chinese/international opinions on Donald Trump" article that I'm aware of. Deleted outright? Maybe, but it passes my gut-feeling test of notability and has a decent citation (though it relies too much on it, citing it five times in one paragraph). -- ] (]) 05:56, 24 October 2021 (UTC) |
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Is it ok to place on Misplaced Pages a password he may use again? ] (]) 01:17, 14 November 2024 (UTC) |
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: It's common for articles to have a "reactions" section, and the reactions of people in non-US countries toward the US president are probably relevant. An idea... Under the heading "Twitter," I see subheadings: "Public opinion," "Effects on litigation," "Effects on the stock market," and "Reactions and analysis." It might be worthwhile to pull these out of the heading "Twitter" (even though their discussion may be limited to tweets) and put them under a new top-level heading called "Reactions," in which case we could also include the section for reactions specifically in China. - ] (]) 16:06, 24 October 2021 (UTC) |
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:: {{tq|It's common for articles to have a "reactions" section}}—indeed, but those are (or should be!) for reactions to the subject of the article. In this case, it should be for reactions to Donald Trump's use of social media. And there are indeed plenty of mentions of such reactions in the article already (samples: ], ], ], ]). But that's not what's in ''this'' section; or at least, the only part of this section that I would say fits is this paragraph: |
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::{{tqb|According to the South China Morning Post, reactions to Trump's permanent Twitter suspension on the Chinese internet were mixed. Many were shocked that U.S. social media platforms "had the audacity to silence the country's president." Some supported Trump's suspension, while others were sympathetic towards Trump due to also being banned off of social media platforms.|source=]|ts=09:12, 25 October 2021 (UTC)|nodash=y}} |
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:: All the rest of it, the stuff about what names were used for Trump on Chinese social media and how he was discussed, could be called reactions to ''the man himself'', but not to his social media use. -- ] (]) 09:12, 25 October 2021 (UTC) |
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In the lede, it says he had 88.9 million followers when he was banned from Twitter, but later in the body it says 88.7 million. Both statements are cited, but which is correct? - Adolphus79 (talk) 00:43, 5 October 2024 (UTC)