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== Semi-protected edit request on 19 July 2024 == |
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I just redid the transliteration for the eight kinds of wealth. I didn't want to make it unfriendly for those not unicode friendly in the first place, but saw umlauts for macrons and thought I'd just revamp the list to ] standards. If you disagree with this, simply revert. I thought her epithets (the पद्मप्रिय, etc) might also be rendered in Devanagari w/ proper transliteration. And is the श्री|śrī commentary necessary here? Other miscellaneous elements could be cleaned up and standardized perhaps. I know that there are a whole lot of people here whose knowledge of Hinduism far surpasses mine though, so I'll leave that to them ;-) ]<sup><small>]</sup></small> 23:52, 16 November 2005 (UTC) |
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==Epithets== |
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please change the mantra of lakshmi in box to lakshmyai ] (]) 16:25, 19 July 2024 (UTC) |
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There is absolutely no reason why Lakshmi's epithets shouldn't be on this page. ''All'' other goddess articles have their epithets and other names listed on their actual article page. Lakshmi's page isn't very big anyway, and removing it just makes it even smaller. Editing the category, deleting it or relocating it is not acceptable Misplaced Pages conduct, as others have also tried to put it back after you have removed it. Please rethink your actions. ] 17:20, 20 December 2006 (UTC) |
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:] '''Not done:''' please provide ] that support the change you want to be made.<!-- Template:ESp --> ] (]) 05:00, 20 July 2024 (UTC) |
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:I agree with you in that right now the list of names is small. However, '''later on''' if other people add more names (I think there are 108 names like for many Hindu deities) it will become too big. I was just pre-empting the big list of names in the future. Do you want to wait until other people add more names and then relocate it when it takes too much space. Also if you see most other pages, they have their list of names closer to the bottom. I don't think a list looks good in the middle of the article. <b><font color="teal">]</font></b>''<sup><font color="teal">]</font></sup>'' <sup><b><font color="teal">]</font></b></sup> 21:16, 20 December 2006 (UTC) |
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:I already added another three names, Sridevi, Bhumi Devi and Chanchala. I am fine with keeping it here at the moment but I know Lakshmiji has many more names so eventually it will have to be moved. On a lot of Misplaced Pages pages, there is only a link on the main page because the list is too big. <b><font color="teal">]</font></b>''<sup><font color="teal">]</font></sup>'' <sup><b><font color="teal">]</font></b></sup> 21:33, 20 December 2006 (UTC) |
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Please change “some Purans” to various Purans. ] (]) 02:42, 13 September 2024 (UTC) |
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:Only Brahmanda Purana mentions it, they are not mentioned in mainstream Puranas like Vishnu Purana, Bhagavata Purana, Matsya Purana, etc. ]<sup>]]</sup> 13:02, 13 September 2024 (UTC) |
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== Lion and Elephant as Lakshmi's mount == |
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I don't think that Lion and elephant are Lakshmi's mount and even if they are mentioned as her mount in one or two texts; I think only mainstream things should be mentioned in the infobox. I changed that but a user started a literal edit-war over this small issue, so I had to start a discussion on the talk page. @] @] @] what do you all think? ] (]) 17:42, 18 September 2024 (UTC) |
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:The same debate occurred few years back (see "Lead" discussion of ) in which I was involved. I was not in favour of putting lion in the lead, but somehow the other user did it anyways. Also, Elephant should be retained, imo. ]<sup>]]</sup> 17:55, 18 September 2024 (UTC) |
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:I do not know about mounts, but Lakṣmī is sometimes depicted with two elephants by her side, called Gajalakṣmī as is mentioned in the body. ] (]) 18:16, 18 September 2024 (UTC) |
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::Alright, so can we remove lion and Garuda from the infobox? Garuda because I think infobox of the deities should be strictly about only themselves without involving their consorts. Mentioning Garuda as Lakshmi's mount is like mentioning bull as Parvati's mount or owl as Vishnu's mount just because they are their consort's mount. Although elephant is not her mount but is consistently depicted with her in iconography, so it can be retained as her mount. But Garuda and Lion should be removed from the infobox. @] @] ] (]) 18:34, 18 September 2024 (UTC) |
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:::I strongly oppose the removal of Garuda from the infobox. While Lakshmi is often depicted on Garuda, Vishnu is never shown riding an owl, making this comparison invalid. Additionally, the inclusion of the ox in Parvati's infobox is appropriate, as it is frequently seen in various depictions, particularly in her Shailputri and Mahagauri forms. ]<sup>]]</sup> 18:56, 18 September 2024 (UTC) |
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::::That's the point I'm trying to make. Infobox of the deities should be strictly about themselves without involving their consorts or their other forms, although these things can be mentioned in the body of the article. Also I never saw any individual depiction of Lakshmi on Garuda without her consort. ] (]) 19:07, 18 September 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::I get it but there is no strict criteria that it should be strictly about themselves, if Lakshmi is prominently featured with Garuda (with or without her Vishnu), there should be no problem in that. ]<sup>]]</sup> 19:20, 18 September 2024 (UTC) |
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::::::Agree, lion is not a mainstream mount. Also, Garuda is primarily the vahana of Vishnu, not Lakshmi. Suggest restricting in the infobox to owl and elephant, which are mainstream vahanas. Other vahana associations can be covered in Iconography. ] <sup> ] </sup> 16:45, 19 September 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::::Okay, though a user is constantly reverting my edits ]<sup>]]</sup> 17:06, 19 September 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::::I agree - only owl and elephant are considered Lakshmi's vahana. ] (]) 00:49, 20 September 2024 (UTC) |
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::::::::I didnt agree it. |
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::::::::Lakshmi is worshipped in shaktism |
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::::::::Mahavidya also realted to Lakshmi, where his form worshipped in Kamalatmika form. ] (]) 06:20, 2 October 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::::::We cannot arbitrarily remove parts of this article due to personal bias, especially when these aspects have been integral to the article for decades. |
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:::::::::Lion is Mount of Goddess lakshmi. ] (]) 06:22, 2 October 2024 (UTC) |
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::::::::::Sarvamangala Swaroopini devi mahalakshmi namostute |
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::::::::::mahalakshmi has many vahans maa uses these vahans according to situation where she is going mount lion or garuda as per Vaishnava and shaktism traditions. |
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== Owl as her mount? == |
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Which text says Owl is vahan of Lakshmi? As far as I know this is just some folklore of Bengal, but not mentioned in any single text. In Vedas owls are associated with the sister of Lakshmi, Alakshmi. Not Lakshmi. @] @] ] (]) 19:30, 20 November 2024 (UTC) |
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== Move discussion in progress == |
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There is a move discussion in progress on ] which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. <!-- Talk:Shri Devi#Requested move 6 January 2025 crosspost --> —] 20:34, 6 January 2025 (UTC) |
I don't think that Lion and elephant are Lakshmi's mount and even if they are mentioned as her mount in one or two texts; I think only mainstream things should be mentioned in the infobox. I changed that but a user started a literal edit-war over this small issue, so I had to start a discussion on the talk page. @Dāsānudāsa @Seyamar @Chariotrider555 what do you all think? Hbanm (talk) 17:42, 18 September 2024 (UTC)