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	Looks to me like this page needs to be updated to be brought into line with the current Mozilla Roadmap. Version 1.6 of the Mozilla Application Suite is currently out, and obviously the transition to Firebird has not yet been made. Unfortunately, I don't know enough of the specifics to update this myself, especially since the status of both products is in a state of somewhat constant flux. Anyone want to update this? --]
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	Shouldn't this have been made by moving ] rather than by a cut-and-paste? There's a fair amount of history at Phoenix (browser) that is now harder to get at. --]
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	Thinking about it, you are right. I remember when Chimera became Camino, I kept articles for the both the older and newer names. Rbrwr, If you want, feel free to go back to the last (Phoenix_(Browser) article and work from there. --]
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			== Mention of specific platform requirements in short description ==
	This probably is the least useful place to discuss this, but I feel that the incorporation of non-platform native UI is what will forever doom Mozilla/Firebird to geekdom, rather than mainstream acceptance. Mac users (for example) simply don't want Windowsy UI on their systems! They want what the OS provides. Anything that looks wrong will be forever branded a second-class citizen, no matter how great the functionality. Call it shallow, but there it is. Why the XUL stuff can't simply call up native widgets on each platform I don't know. ] 11:37, 27 Nov 2003 (UTC)

			"However, as with all other iOS web browsers, the iOS version uses the WebKit layout engine instead of Gecko due to platform requirements. "
	:Three things:
	:#Yes this is probably the least useful place to discuss this - discussion on Misplaced Pages which won't lead to an improvement in content is discouraged.
	:#That aside, the first mistake I'd like to point out is that Mozilla doesn't have a "Windowsy UI". XUL is, by its very nature, highly skinnable, and many of the skins out there bear little resemblance to any OS I've seen.
	:#Furthermore, the idea of calling up native widgets on each platform is ''exactly'' the purpose of projects like ], ] and ]. But obviously, once you start doing that (to a worthwhile extent), the program's not cross-platform anymore (in quite the same way - you can't just add support for a new platform with a few bindings).
	: - ] 12:44, 28 Nov 2003 (UTC)

			Should we move this part into a more relevant section, perhaps Firefox for mobile? I agree that it is notable, but not enough to be part of the article's short description. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 01:06, 28 August 2022 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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			== Citation needed for Firefox name ==
	"Others, however, have posited that Mozilla Firebird is not yet ready for mission-critical tasks."

			> The name Firefox was said to be derived from a nickname of the red panda
	Which others are these? The Mozilla.org page on Firebird says it, but that's different to unspecified third parties. - ] 21:20, Feb 8, 2004 (UTC)

			What's the source of this statement? ] (]) 19:46, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
	What a pompous sentence. And anyway, what "mission" is any webs browser "critical" to? Seems to me the writer doesn't understand what mission critical means. Unless he happens to be trying to operate his nuclear powerplant via a java applet ;-) I think I'll just edit it out again, if nobody objects. ] 02:37, 9 Feb 2004 (UTC)

			:Refs 39 and 40, particularly the Mozilla FAQ. Follow the citation links. ]] 20:50, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
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			== Move discussion in progress ==
	What is the background for the rename of this browser? The article just says "due to strong pressure from the Open Source community". ] 12:38, 9 Feb 2004 (UTC)

			There is a move discussion in progress on ] which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. <!-- Talk:IOS version history/Archive 7#Requested move 23 December 2022 crosspost --> —] 17:48, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
	:There's some obscure open source database called "firebird", apparently. --] 12:54, Feb 9, 2004 (UTC)
			:Not any more, there isn't - "The result of the move request was: pages not moved." ] (]) 23:32, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

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	Could we get a screenshot with the default Misplaced Pages theme instead? Using the non-default theme is a bit confusing, as it implies something about Firefox's rendering being different, when it's really just that the person taking the screenshot had a different Misplaced Pages theme set. =] --] 12:54, Feb 9, 2004 (UTC)

			== Someone update the stable release date of firefox on this page. ==
	: Okay, I'll try and get another with the default soon. ] 13:08, 9 Feb 2004 (UTC)

			According to Mozilla, a stable version 113.0 has been released on 9 May 2023 https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/113.0/releasenotes/ ] (]) 17:33, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
	::Might want to reduce screen size to 640x480 or reduce window size, so that the Firefox menu/toolbar is fully visible, yet image is small enough to view easily w/out scrolling. Looks like you have your screen set to 1024x768. You're not really needing to show off Wiki, just Firefox. ] 01:39, 2004 Feb 10 (UTC)
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	== Reference removed, but the citation remains ==

	In the article, there is a reference to Keating (2004), but someone removed the reference itself! It's beyond me why anyone would do that, but someone should bring it back.

	—] 04:12, 2004 Feb 11 (UTC)

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As of 08/09/13, the Firefox article requires the following to be completed:

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Expand the lead section to better summarize key points of the article using Misplaced Pages guidelines

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Section size for Firefox (32 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	11,624	11,624
History	22,902	22,902
Features	8,832	26,416
Browser extensions	3,264	3,264
Themes	1,159	1,159
Guest session	1,439	1,439
Standards	11,722	11,722
Security	10,704	10,704
Privacy	13,441	13,441
Localizations	2,238	2,238
Platform availability	5,108	45,780
Microsoft Windows	8,166	8,166
macOS	5,873	5,873
Linux	1,378	1,378
Firefox for Android	8,531	8,531
Firefox for iOS	7,571	7,571
Firefox Reality (AR/VR)	1,253	1,253
Unofficial ports	7,900	7,900
Channels and release schedule	7,878	7,878
Licensing	4,798	4,798
Trademark and logo	6,987	13,516
Branding and visual identity	6,529	6,529
Promotion	9,407	9,407
Performance	18	17,117
2000s	7,809	7,809
2010s	7,621	7,621
Firefox Quantum	1,669	1,669
Usage share	7,480	7,480
See also	231	231
References	30	30
Further reading	1,288	1,288
External links	1,330	1,330
Total	196,180	196,180

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Mention of specific platform requirements in short description

"However, as with all other iOS web browsers, the iOS version uses the WebKit layout engine instead of Gecko due to platform requirements. "

Should we move this part into a more relevant section, perhaps Firefox for mobile? I agree that it is notable, but not enough to be part of the article's short description. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.186.18.90 (talk) 01:06, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Citation needed for Firefox name

> The name Firefox was said to be derived from a nickname of the red panda

What's the source of this statement? Spotlesstofu (talk) 19:46, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

Refs 39 and 40, particularly the Mozilla FAQ. Follow the citation links. Mind matrix 20:50, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

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Not any more, there isn't - "The result of the move request was: pages not moved." Guy Harris (talk) 23:32, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

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Someone update the stable release date of firefox on this page.

According to Mozilla, a stable version 113.0 has been released on 9 May 2023 https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/113.0/releasenotes/ LDM2003 (talk) 17:33, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

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