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I saw you created an article on ]. There you dated it "since 405/406". However, as to my knowledge, official/best-of-human-knowledge/commonly agreed date is that all original 36 letters of Mesropian alphabet were "created" in 405. => Why put "/406"? Is there some scientific puzzle or uncertainty? If not, I will correct it.


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trucks should change to cleaner fuels like electric or hydrogen, and smaller clean trucks are indeed catching on. But road trains seem to be the exception so far, with very few clean ones being used. So for the time being, road trains are almost exclusively diesel. That fact is notable, and should be included in an encyclopedia. Failing to do so merely hides the pollution. National fuel usage could be included to show scale.


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Hi there, last August you made an edit to my Talk page pointing out the use of the quadruple ~. Just wanted to say thanks for that (and I wish I would've noticed earlier, I had assumed Wiki adds that automagically ^^) ] (]) 21:56, 5 March 2024 (UTC)


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Should editing on this page be restricted? There seem to be a queue of enthusiastic IPs wanting to add the obvious to it, and I imagine this will just continue even before a court case starts.(Of course, in time there will be a place for a page on the event itself). What do you think? ] (]) 02:39, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
:I suspect such action will calm down soon. ] (]) 03:31, 8 March 2024 (UTC)


We risk losing valuable information and context by removing these specific brand mentions. I propose we reinstate the original content, ensuring it remains neutral and avoids undue promotion. If concerns about specificity persist, we could consider a more general approach, such as categorizing brands by region or market share. However, I believe that the current inclusion of specific brands is appropriate and beneficial to the article.
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Additionally, I would like to point out that it would have been more productive for the editor to raise their concerns on the article's talk page rather than resorting to a full revert. This would have allowed for a more collaborative and constructive discussion about the content. ] (]) 13:17, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
Hello friend. Thank you for the invite. I tried to get an account for like 10 years and was always refused on the grounds of something like "Because I don't feel like it, you little f*ing fa*got. Go s*ck your daddy's c*ck now and k*ll yourself! lol"


:] The combined population of the USA, Canada and Mexico would be, at best, 8% of he world's population. And obviously entirely within one continent. That is NOT a global presence. ] (]) 00:51, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
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Thanks for the greeting, HiLo48, but I've been editing Misplaced Pages for about 20 years, and have always deliberately chosen to do so without an account.


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::Why are you tracking him down that's a bit weird mate ] (]) 04:52, 27 March 2024 (UTC)


The image you restored at ] is an atheist graffiti encouraging christians to deconvert. Criticizing a religion and encouraging people to leave it, especially if said religion isn't a protected minority, is free speech. To frame it as religious persecution is dishonest and misleading. ] (]) 11:39, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
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::The article's talk page is dead. I addressed the issue there awhile ago, when I first removed the image. I received no replies except from IP vandals accusing me of "spreading woke agenda" or other such nonsense. ] (]) 11:26, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
:::That's still not a good reason to ask about this on someone's talk page, whatever state the talk page is in is irrelevant. ] (]) 12:04, 4 December 2024 (UTC)


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Hi, HiLo48! Thanks for your welcome, but I've been editing here (mostly on the Reference and Help/Teahouse desks) for about 20 years, and have consciously chosen (so far) to do so without creating an Account, for reasons I won't bore you with. Since my IP (once static) is semi-dynamic, I pseudo-sign myself for continuity purposes "{The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195}" ] (]) 07:14, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
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::I see, so adding an explanation "reference has 0 citations, lack of notability", would be ok with you? ] (]) 10:41, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

:::That actually reads quite strangely. I don't know what you mean by "citation" and "reference". To me, they are usually the same thing. ] (]) 10:56, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
::::Is "this article has been cited by 0 other peer-reviewed articles, lack of notability" better? ] (]) 11:06, 5 May 2024 (UTC) ] (]) 13:05, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
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Toilet paper revert

I respectfully disagree with removing the specific brand mentions from the Toilet paper article. While it's true that some brands may be more prevalent in certain regions, the inclusion of these particular brands is justified for the following reasons:

Global Presence: Brands such as Charmin are not confined to one country. They are widely available in North America, including Canada and Mexico. This broad distribution demonstrates their significance in the global market. Both Charmin and Cottonelle toilet paper are widely available in Canada and Mexico. You can find them in both countries' major grocery stores and retail outlets.

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We risk losing valuable information and context by removing these specific brand mentions. I propose we reinstate the original content, ensuring it remains neutral and avoids undue promotion. If concerns about specificity persist, we could consider a more general approach, such as categorizing brands by region or market share. However, I believe that the current inclusion of specific brands is appropriate and beneficial to the article.

Additionally, I would like to point out that it would have been more productive for the editor to raise their concerns on the article's talk page rather than resorting to a full revert. This would have allowed for a more collaborative and constructive discussion about the content. Whoisjohngalt (talk) 13:17, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Whoisjohngalt The combined population of the USA, Canada and Mexico would be, at best, 8% of he world's population. And obviously entirely within one continent. That is NOT a global presence. HiLo48 (talk) 00:51, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

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Misleading information is every reason to remove something

The image you restored at Anti-Christian Sentiment is an atheist graffiti encouraging christians to deconvert. Criticizing a religion and encouraging people to leave it, especially if said religion isn't a protected minority, is free speech. To frame it as religious persecution is dishonest and misleading. 46.97.170.199 (talk) 11:39, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

That's a matter for discussion on the article's Talk Page, not here. HiLo48 (talk) 21:29, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
The article's talk page is dead. I addressed the issue there awhile ago, when I first removed the image. I received no replies except from IP vandals accusing me of "spreading woke agenda" or other such nonsense. 46.97.170.199 (talk) 11:26, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
That's still not a good reason to ask about this on someone's talk page, whatever state the talk page is in is irrelevant. Harryhenry1 (talk) 12:04, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

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Hi, HiLo48! Thanks for your welcome, but I've been editing here (mostly on the Reference and Help/Teahouse desks) for about 20 years, and have consciously chosen (so far) to do so without creating an Account, for reasons I won't bore you with. Since my IP (once static) is semi-dynamic, I pseudo-sign myself for continuity purposes "{The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195}" 94.6.84.253 (talk) 07:14, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

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