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:*The naming dispute means that having this on the front page ''will'' draw complaints, I think. ] (]) 11:35, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
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:*This was moved from userspace to the mainspace today, and the hook can be verified by . ] (]) 05:17, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
:* ] Good work. ] (]) 10:13, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
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====History of Sochi====
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:*''Comment'': The hook and its photo are in "Development of Sochi". Refs are in Russian, but one is more or less pictorial. ] (]) 02:45, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
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:*Using the Englishname would probably make it even more hookier. ] (]) 04:06, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
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====Henry Clarence Whaite====
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====Suiyo Seamount====
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:*Now I know that the source doesn't directly state that the volcano was extinct, but I know from experience that 99.9% of seamounts are dead. Given the low amount of material collected, there was no basis to assume otherwise, and so it was, until the fumarole activity happened. <span style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica"><b><font color="#731A25">]</font></b><font color="#B31023">]</font></span> 21:18, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
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====Leo Byrd====
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:*Can we change that to "...went on to win..."? I see no need for a conditional type of verb phrase. ] (]) 20:56, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
::*Changed. ] (]) 21:28, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
:*] Sourcing and length for article and hook have been verified. ] (]) 01:07, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
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====UAAP Season 65 men's basketball tournament====
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:*Alt three pops: I like it. The others don't have as much of an impact. <span style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica"><b><font color="#731A25">]</font></b><font color="#B31023">]</font></span> 02:15, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
====John Abel====
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====Santoshi Mata====
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:*I think the hook should specify that she's not actually scriptural - that she's (almost) entirely a creation of the movie. ] (]) 11:41, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
====Asher Noria====
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====Alma (name)====
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====Brenda Lee Eager====
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====British Motocross Championship====
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====Marshall Flaum, Let My People Go: The Story of Israel====
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====Sakis Rouvas Collection====
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:*Wikilinked hook. I suggest changing "artist" to "singer" as it is not obvious that he isn't a painter in this context. ] (]) 01:52, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
====List of Fab 40 number-one singles====
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====The Temptation of Barbizon====
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:*Note that this article has also been considered for ]. ] (]) 15:31, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
::*] ] say: "Articles that have appeared on the main page's In the News section are not eligible." This hit the main page and is still there. ] ] 17:00, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
:::*] did appear on ITN. ] did not. ] (]) 18:40, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
::::*Yes, I can confirm that Shubinator is correct - I was the one who posted the article ] on ITN :) However I suggest we wait until the related item is scrolled off ITN, which will be very soon. --] (]) 21:57, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::* ] Guys, the link on the Main Page is to ], which now makes it ineligible. <span style="text-align: center; clear: both; font-family:Georgia, serif; font-size: 10pt; font-variant: small-caps; font-style: normal;"> — ] ] —</span> 11:30, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
====Alexander Fulton (Louisiana)====
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::I '''''strongly disagree''''' with having this (or any similar hook describing another candidate) appear on the front page while the campaign is ongoing. It feels like electioneering. ] (]) 11:48, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
====Qmunity====
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====Double-O Ranch Historic District====
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====George Ambo====
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====1995–96 Michigan Wolverines men's ice hockey team, 1996–97 Michigan Wolverines men's ice hockey team, 1997–98 Michigan Wolverines men's ice hockey team====
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====Adam of Kilconquhar====
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====Astley and Tyldesley Collieries====
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====Figaro (genus), Australian sawtail catshark, northern sawtail catshark====
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====Al-'Awasim====
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:* ] Looks good, I placed a citation in the lead just for DYK purposes and rules.--] <small>]</small> 11:44, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
====BSA B50====
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====New Academy (Moscopole)====
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:::*... '''ALT1''' that the ''']''', an 18th-century higher learning institute and center of Greek culture, in ], ], was nicknamed "the worthiest jewel of the city"? --<span style="font-family: Gothic;">] <sup>(])</sup></span> 00:12, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
::: "Please find another hook" isn't an argument. The hook is oversourced with Moscopole being a 'center of Greek culture'. Moreover, the blog log and the personal attacks Sulmues lead against me in every single nomination of me (how bad my 'ga's are for example) leave no choice but to ignore the current bad faith initiative.] (]) 12:49, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
====Grandview Apostolic Church====
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====List of Top Pops number-one singles====
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====St Bartholomew's Church, Richard's Castle====
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:*<!--Make first comment here-->] - ready. ] (]) 22:58, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
====Lake Sausacocha====
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====Sack of Amorium====
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:*] Looking good. Great article. (Strictly speaking, the placement of the footnote isn't making it entirely clear whether the hook is completely covered by the ref, but I trust the author's good judgment in that.) Image would be nice, but I'm not sure it will work well on the main page at this small size. ] ] 15:45, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
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:*Nifty, but ] applies, yes? Perhaps "has been suggested". ] (]) 02:44, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
:*I agree, so a bit of reformulation then:] (]) 07:35, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
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::The explanation of the term may be integrated as <nowiki>]</nowiki> or left out if it makes the entry too long. ] (]) 07:35, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
::: '''ALT3''': ... that fetuses of the endangered ] (pictured) have been ] in the womb of cats? --] <sup> ] </sup> 15:54, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
::::With the link to interspecific pregnancy in '''bold''', it seems all fine to me. ] (]) 05:55, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::I like it, but the article seems to indicate that it's only been done in ''one'' cat so far (and she died of pneumonia before the birth). ] (]) 11:51, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
====Washington Athletic Club====
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:* ] Nice article, I didn't see where it was one of the few though, just that it had no 13 floor. I think the practice is fairly common too, I have seen in omitted in many buildings, as the ] article explains it commonality.--] <small>]</small> 11:35, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
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:* ] The article is good but it needs small expansion. ] (]) 16:21, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
::*Is length a problem right now? I wasn't sure if refs are included in calculating the 5X expansion.]] 16:56, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
:::* 677 characters in prose before expansion, 2820 after expansion (5 x 677 = 3385). ] (]) 21:44, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
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====Philipsburg Manor====
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:* ] The states he was arrested in 1776, not 1779. I also don't see an exact date that the manor was sold in that reference. 1779 isn't mentioned. Growing up in Yonkers, and visiting the manor on field day trips I shouldn't have to look at the reference. It is nice to see some Yonkers history being covered, although it isn't upstate!--] <small>]</small> 11:28, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
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====Beethoven Monument, Bonn====
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====Sir John Jarvis, 1st Baronet====
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====Sir Edgar Horne, 1st Baronet====
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:*]<small>(checked using ])</small> Length, history good; an ad from the last page of a newspaper isn't the best source, but I'll let it pass. ] (]) 17:49, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
====Robert L. Bobbitt====
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====Charles de Lorme====
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====Susisuchus====
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:*] Maybe I'm blind, but I can't find the reference in the source. Are you referring to "the transition from Neosuchia to Eusuchia involved the sagittal segmentation of the paravertebral shield (Bernissartia to Susisuchus)"? Because that just describes a later modification to the shield, which was already in species before Susisuchus. Feel free to point me to a sentence that I missed. ] (]) 17:35, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
::*The shield is called a tetraserial paravertebral shield, which is unique to ''Susisuchus'' and eusuchians. "Tetraserial paravertebral shield" is a very technical term, so I thought that saying "a shield... similar to those of living crocodilians" would show that ''Susisuchus'' has a special type of shield different from those of earlier species. Hopefully this is better:
::'''ALT1''' ... that the ] ] relative ''''']''''' was one of the first ]ns to have a segmented shield of bony ]s over its back, which allowed for greater flexibility while swimming?
:* ] Good to go. ] (]) 16:23, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
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====St Martin's Church, Preston Gubbals====
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====About the Mystery of the Letters====
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====James Kennedy Patterson====
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====St Peter and St Paul's Church, Preston Deanery====
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====Sherman J. Maise====
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====Bobby Godsell====
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:* Hook is 215 characters, maybe cut out "utilities company" and add "'s" to the end of "African"?--] <small>]</small> 11:14, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
====Snares Snipe====
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====Antique Motorcycle Club of America====
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:*] Length meets minimums for article and maximum for hook, but the source of the hook is the club itself. Can an independent reliable and verifiable source be added to support the hook? Also, should we use "organizations" vs. "organisations" given that this is an American club. ] (]) 12:35, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
====Laguna de Paca, Jauja====
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::*I'd like to suggest the following ALT. I added an inline ref immediately after the "capital" hook fact. ] <font color="blue">•</font> ] 20:05, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
::*'''ALT1''': ... that ''']''', located near ''']''' ''(pictured)'', was the capital of ] before the founding of ]?
:::*Thanks. It is fine.--]</span> <sup>]</sup>. 02:04, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
====Sulla's civil wars====
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] Not sure why the article link is in red. If you type in "Sulla's civil wars" in the search engine, the page should come up.] (]) 02:34, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
:Fixed. ] 02:35, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
:Fixed. Something was wrong with the apostrophe. ] ] 02:35, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
::<Insert obligatory cliche about great minds and thinking here.> ] 02:36, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Don't be so hard on yourself Ucucha, haha. I haven't reviewed for DYK acceptability, but I think the original hook is the more interesting one... the ALT seemed to happen a lot in those days... ] ] 02:39, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
::::The article's bare URL references should be formatted. Also, I'd prefer a more recent and more scholarly ref for the hook fact. ] 02:45, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
====Marko Račič====
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====Kenneth North====
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:*] ref must follow hook, suggest tweak hook with length of time as pow.<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — ] • ] • </span> 00:02, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
====National Intellectual Property Rights Coordination Center====
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====Gwichyaa Gwich’in====
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====Marguerite Bériza, Orville Harrold====
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:*Bériza is a new article and Harrold is a more than 5x expansion. The hook fact can be found with a citation in the Bériza article.] (]) 06:55, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
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====Kathy and Carol====
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====Sean McCorkle====
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:*'''ALT1''':*... that ] ''']''' has been ]d "The Hater", "The Big Angry", "Big Hungry" and "The Alpha Male", and claims he changes his nickname "to keep it interesting"? ] (]) 20:57, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
::I'm happy with the ALT hook! Thanks <SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #73C2FB">]</SPAN> <FONT SIZE="1">]</FONT> 21:12, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
====Millennium Bailey's Hotel and James Bailey (UK politician)====
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:*<!--Make first comment here-->] Date, length OK. Offline hook ref AGF. Cool picture. Good to go. ] (]) 00:08, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
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====140th Year Anniversary Celebration of the Emancipation Proclamation====
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:*<!--Make first comment here-->] Date, length OK. The bare URLs need to be formatted per ]. Also, the article has a lot of interesting things to say other than the anniversary happened. How about:
:*'''ALT1''':<s> ... that for the ''']''', ] ] organized volunteers to clean, paint, and restore ] at the ] in ]?</s>
:*'''ALT2''': ... that the ] was ceremoniously read on the ''']''' under the ] where ] taught children of former slaves in 1861?
:*'''ALT3''':<s> ... that during the ''']''' on January 1, 2003, living ]s portrayed ] in ]?</s>
:*] (]) 00:04, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
::I have fixed up the references (removed bare URLs, added details, etc).
::I like all the suggested alts; I asked a few people, and we all preferred the 2nd one, re. the oak tree. I think that is the best choice. Thanks, <small><span style="border:1px solid;background:#00008B">]]</span></small> 00:52, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
:::] Date, length, hook ref all verified. ALT2 good to go. ] (]) 09:23, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
====Cloud gaming====
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:*] Date and length look good. AGF for the ref. ~<span style="border:2px solid blue;background:beige;font-family:Mistral">''']]]'''</span> 01:18, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
::*I'm not using any non-English or offline sources, so why is it AGF and not just an actual check of the ref itself? <font color="silver">]</font><font color="blue">]</font><sup>]</sup> 01:24, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
:::*Also, ] are you sure the hook fact is actually in the article right now? Console games from ''all consoles''? --] (]) 01:30, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
::::*Good point, I probably won't be able to back up the "all" part. How about this...
:::::*'''(Alt 1)''' ... that ] uses a type of ] called ''']''' that allows users to play ] from different consoles on their computer? <font color="silver">]</font><font color="blue">]</font><sup>]</sup> 01:34, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::*] That's better. And sorry about the AGF, I forgot it only applied to offline and foreign language sources. ~<span style="border:2px solid blue;background:beige;font-family:Mistral">''']]]'''</span> 01:37, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::] The article doesn't mention anywhere, that the games currently offered are (exclusively or otherwise) console games; it also doesn't mention as a fact, that they are games from ''different consoles'', as opposed to one particular console. As far as I can see, the hook fact is not currently stated within the article. --] (]) 01:54, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Uh, it directly states "Assassin's Creed" and "Mass Effect 2", which are from different consoles. If you need me to state it directly in the article, I will, since it is directly stated in most of the references. <font color="silver">]</font><font color="blue">]</font><sup>]</sup> 04:46, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Fair enough, but yes I think it should be stated explicitly in the article if it is used in the hook. --] (]) 09:19, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
:'''ALT2''' ... that ''']''' developments allow players to access their saved games at multiple locations, using the same game data on platforms ranging from desktop computers to ]?
:(this is my attempt at a hook for this without a company name or brand name in it) --] (]) 02:50, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
::I would prefer to not use this Alt, since it isn't as interesting as the one I gave. This makes it sound kind of boring and wordy. <font color="silver">]</font><font color="blue">]</font><sup>]</sup> 04:46, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Depends what the reader finds interesting - the existing hook, at first reading, makes it sound rather like ]. (I was going to add the word "modern" somewhere to avoid that potential confusion - since some thin client services already offer emulated games from older consoles, and many readers would be most familiar with that.) But whatever hook you prefer is fine, so long as the hook fact is actually stated in the article. --] (]) 09:19, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
::::Actually, after thinking about it, i'm fine with your alt. It does convey more about what cloud gaming does. <font color="silver">]</font><font color="blue">]</font><sup>]</sup> 18:40, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::I've trimmed my suggested ALT2 to make it a bit less wordy. It's quite difficult to get across the potential this concept has, without building a huge unwieldy hook. --] (]) 02:15, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
====Rocky Top's Sundance Kid====
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:*<s>] Date and length look good. AGF for the ref. ~<span style="border:2px solid blue;background:beige;font-family:Mistral">''']]]'''</span> 01:21, 8 October 2010 (UTC)</s>
::*] There isn't a citation after the fact in the lead. ~<span style="border:2px solid blue;background:beige;font-family:Mistral">''']]]'''</span> 01:44, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
:::*Added the citation from the body to the lead. ] ] 11:45, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
====National Foundation for Women Legislators====
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:*] Date and length of expansion looks good. AGF for the ref. ~<span style="border:2px solid blue;background:beige;font-family:Mistral">''']]]'''</span> 01:23, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
::*{{ec}} ] Reevaluated as AGF only applies to offline and foreign sources. ~<span style="border:2px solid blue;background:beige;font-family:Mistral">''']]]'''</span> 01:48, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
====French ironclad Richelieu====
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====Most Ljubavi====
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::*] The article length is 2200 characters, but most of that is from the quote, which I believe we have to exclude when considering length. ] (]) 23:27, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
:::*Yes, , since it's a block quote. <font color="silver">]</font><font color="blue">]</font><sup>]</sup> 23:53, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
:::* Why don't you try to the website/board as a source instead of quoting it? This way, the text will be counted for the length requirement. Be mindful of ] though :) <span style="text-align: center; clear: both; font-family:Georgia, serif; font-size: 10pt; font-variant: small-caps; font-style: normal;"> — ] ] —</span> 07:38, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
::::* Fix and little expanded. :) Also, source is in the public domain, so ] cannot be used here. --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">]<sup>]</sup></span> 10:01, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::* The length is good now. I think it needs a little copy-editing, though; I'd offer to do this but it might be better if someone more familiar with the bridge and its story (or at least the source language) could do so... I don't want to unwittingly introduce errors due to my unfamiliarity with the topic. ] (]) 15:50, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::* Indeed, the length is good, but there's definitely close paraphrasing and WhiteWriter is yet to provide evidence as to why the board/website would be public domain. If that's cleared up or if the section is rewritten, it would be good to go, but for now it's too close to the original text and it seems to be copyrighted. <span style="text-align: center; clear: both; font-family:Georgia, serif; font-size: 10pt; font-variant: small-caps; font-style: normal;"> — ] ] —</span> 11:16, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::*OK, doesn't matter, i cannot find source that it is in public domain, so i rewrite it. Hope now it is good. Third luck! :) --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">]<sup>]</sup></span> 12:52, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::::* ] Well, comparing it to the original translated quote that you initially used, I think it's far enough from the original to pass. Length, date and hook verified. <span style="text-align: center; clear: both; font-family:Georgia, serif; font-size: 10pt; font-variant: small-caps; font-style: normal;"> — ] ] —</span> 14:01, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
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{{*mp}}... that the mushrooms ''''']''''', ''''']''''', ''''']''''', ''''']''''', ''''']''''', ''''']''''', ''''']''''', and ''''']''''', newly described in 2007, are only known from ], Japan?
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:*] Date and length good for all of them. ~<span style="border:2px solid blue;background:beige;font-family:Mistral">''']]]'''</span> 01:29, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
::*] Reevaluated as AGF only applies to offline and foreign language sources. ~<span style="border:2px solid blue;background:beige;font-family:Mistral">''']]]'''</span> 01:50, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
====RMAS Typhoon (A95)====
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:*''Comment'': Bit of a rubbish picture, I'm aware, and doesn't really add much to the DYK - but I thought it best to include it anyway. ] (]) 20:36, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
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:*] Only 1200 characters. DYK requires a minimum of 1500 characters of prose. ~<span style="border:2px solid blue;background:beige;font-family:Mistral">''']]]'''</span> 01:54, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
::My apologies: I put 'created' when I actually expanded it. Does the 1,500 still apply? ] (]) 16:13, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
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====Samuel May Wiliams House====
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:*] Length and sourcing for article are ok, but there needs to be an explicit source added to the statement in the article that corresponds to the hook. ] (]) 12:46, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
====Cheney Racing====
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:*I can't find the fact in the source. ] (]) 19:16, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
::It is clearly stated under the first paragraph of the 'History' tab on the ref Cheney Racing web site. (I will put a seperate ref if you like but on my iPhone at the moment) Thanks ] (]) 20:47, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
:::]<small>(checked using ])</small> Ok. I'm a little uncomfortable with the fact being sourced to the company itself, but ah well. ] (]) 20:53, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
::::Thanks - and I've updated the ref now so that its easy to find ] (]) 12:40, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
====Enterprise Allowance Scheme====
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:*<!--Make first comment here-->] A minimum of ] is required for DYK, it's currently at 792 characters. Hook is fine, it's still within 5 days of creation so if it can be expanded tomorrow (11th) at the latest it should be eligible. ] <sup>]</sup> 11:39, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
::*I like a deadline lol, I'll work on this tomorrow :-) ] (]) 19:32, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
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====Stephen Pace (artist)====
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:*''Comment'': Better, ... that two ''']s''' were... -- ] (]) 18:52, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Done! ] (]) 16:14, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
::::Sorry to nitpick, but the article has 1455 characters of prose; DYK requires at least 1500. Add a few sentences and you'll be fine. ] (]) 19:44, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::Should now be 2000+. ] (]) 20:25, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::]<small>(checked using ])</small> Good to go. ] (]) 20:43, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
====UAAP Season 67 men's basketball tournament====
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:*<!--Make first comment here-->] Date, length, hook ref all verified. Good to go. ] (]) 23:47, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
::*Can someone help me on creating a better blurb? –''']''' (]) 11:20, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
====Chusovaya River====
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:*] Very good expansion, but a lot of Russian-language sources. ] (]) 16:22, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
:*:I know .. it is a river in the midst of Russian nowhere. '''ALT1''' ... that 23 ships crashed at one cliff on the ''']''' ''(another cliff pictured)'' in the spring of 1877? This hook is in history and is backed by 2 Russian books. ] (]) 04:46, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
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:*] Article has not been 5x expanded. ~<span style="border:2px solid blue;background:beige;font-family:Mistral">''']]]'''</span> 01:59, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
::I think I might be confused about the rules here, but as far as I was aware the article had gone from 375 characters to 1989 characters in my revision, which is a 5x expansion no? ]<sup>]</sup> 10:12, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
:::The DYK check tool says it has 1880 characters of prose. It needs 5 more characters to reach a 5x expansion. ~<span style="border:2px solid blue;background:beige;font-family:Mistral">''']]]'''</span> 15:52, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
::Oh! Well my apologies then. I've corrected that oversight. ]<sup>]</sup> 16:33, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
::* ] A semi-automatic 5x check shows 364 characters to 1887 which is 5x, albeit very minimal. Everything else checks out.--] <small>]</small> 11:09, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
====Perhapsatron====
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:*] Length and sourcing for article and hook have been verified. I added a source available online through Google Books to the sentence in the lead that best matches the DYK hook. ] (]) 12:54, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
====Edentulina moreleti====
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:* ] I see in the reference where is states it is the first but not the only. I see this because nine years past, is it still the only?--] <small>]</small> 12:19, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
::I think so. There is about 1000 species of Streptaxidae and all of them are known or are thought to be carnivorous. As far as I know, this species is the only one herbivorous in this family. --] (]) 17:13, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
::: ] Ok, sounds good and verifiable, based on sources.--] <small>]</small> 01:39, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
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:*] All good. —<span style="font-family:Tahoma;">''']</span> • <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-variant:small-caps;">] • 8:52pm •'''</span> 09:52, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
::'''ALT1''' *... that at the end of the first game of the ''']''', a ] assistant team manager ran onto the court and hit opposing player ] ''(pictured)'' in the back of the head? ] (]) 16:23, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
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====Branchinecta brushi====
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:*] Hook doesn't make much sense. —<span style="font-family:Tahoma;">''']</span> • <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-variant:small-caps;">] • 8:54pm •'''</span> 09:54, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
::*I'm afraid I'm going to need a little more detail than that if I'm to be able to improve it. The fairy shrimp ''Branchinecta brushi'' is a crustacean. It lives at 5,930 m in the Chilean Andes. No other crustacean lives higher. Thus, the fairy shrimp ''Branchinecta brushi'' is the higest crustacean in the world, living at 5,930 m (19,460 ft) in the Chilean Andes. I'm open to suggestions for improvement, but those are the facts that should be reported. --] (]) 09:59, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
:::*How about "...living at ''an altitude of'' 5,930..." -- ] (]) 10:11, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
:::* (edit conflict) How about;
:::'''ALT2''' ... that the ] ''''']''''' lives at 5,930 m (19,460 ft) in the ]an ], higher than any other ] in the world?
:::* And, incidentally, could the height be rounded to either 6,000m (and the ft equivalent) or 20,000ft (and the m equivalent) to make it slightly easier to read? I assume it's that precise because it lives in a specific lake or something that ''is'' at that specific height, but then even the lake has depth so a little rounding might not hurt. Just a thought, I don't know how these things are normally expressed.
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::::* Also, is the fact accurate, since the article states that another crustacean Branchinecta valchetana lives at the same height? Is Branchinecta valchetana also a shrimp, and if not, can we just replace the word "crustacean" with "shrimp"? Or is that not really an accurate enough term? --] (]) 10:32, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::*I'd be happy with the rounding, provided it's noted (e.g. "at around 6,000 m..."), since the mountain does not actually reach 6,000 m (let alone 20,000 ft, another 96 m higher). ''Boeckella palustris'' (not ''Branchinecta valchetana'') does live in the same place, so one could argue that ''Br. brushi'' is '''joint''' highest, but I think that's probably nitpicking. I would argue that ''Br. brushi'' is the highest, and so is ''Bo. palustris''. Neither, incidentally, is a ], and in any case, that would be a less remarkable fact than being the superlative among a much bigger group. ALT2 looks fine to me, as does John of Reading's suggestion. --] (]) 12:03, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::*] Alt is fine :) —<span style="font-family:Tahoma;">''']</span> • <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-variant:small-caps;">] • 11:14am •'''</span> 00:14, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
====Military engineering-technical university====
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:*] No problems. —<span style="font-family:Tahoma;">''']</span> • <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-variant:small-caps;">] • 9:05pm •'''</span> 10:05, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
====Herb Wilkinson====
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:*'''Alt2''':... that after winning the ] with ], ''']''' transferred to ] because it offered a dental school? ] (]) 03:50, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
:**] All hooks backed up with appropriate references. —<span style="font-family:Tahoma;">''']</span> • <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-variant:small-caps;">] • 9:03pm •'''</span> 10:03, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
::Go with the original or with ALT2. Nothing particularly interesting about ALT1. ] (]) 16:27, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
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====Henry Bergh (sculpture)====
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:*<!--Make first comment here-->I wonder if ] of the century old statue is really a fairuse pic. Do U.S. copyright laws cover public art from that long ago? If not, maybe we can use this on MainPage. --] (]) 03:58, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
:*:See comment from Elcobbola regarding copyright length and statues. In short - it's life of the sculptor + 70. ] (]) 04:04, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
::: Thanks, Raul. I can't establish the sculptor's year of death, so I guess we don't know enough to safely use this pic on MainPage. Never mind. --] (]) 05:35, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
::::Everything looks good except two areas in the "Information" section are uncited. I duplicated a reference to other areas as needed and proper but couldn't find that information.--] <small>]</small> 10:56, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
====Sara Copia Sullam====
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:*Please note that the term "Jewess" is often considered to be outdated usage. See ]. --] ] 02:33, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
::Thank you! It is really interesting to know. Being Jewish myself, I would have never thought the word "Jewess" could be offensive. Of course I came from a different country. I've changed the hook.--] (]) 04:54, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
::*] Date, length, hook ref verified. Tweaked hook and it's good to go. ] (]) 14:05, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
====Wellington Fault====
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:*<!--Make first comment here-->] 5x expansion verified. Date, length, hook ref verified. Tweaked hook and it's good to go. ] (]) 14:11, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
====John Douglas (conductor)====
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:] Good subject area :-) but article needs to be 1500 characters to qualify for DYK. Let me know if you need help. ] (]) 18:16, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
::Concur, I have just left a message for the nominator. ] (]) 18:23, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
====1994 College Baseball All-America Team====
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:*<!--Make first comment here-->] 5x expansion verified. Date, length, hook ref verified. I like the extra factoid on ALT1. ALT1 good to go. ] (]) 11:25, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
====Austin Volk====
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:*The New Jersey hook was nominated by ] (]) at 21:50, 7 October 2010 (UTC) under the October 7 heading, but the article was created on October 6. I moved it here as an ALT. (I like mine better, but I may not be completely impartial in the matter.) ] <font color="blue">•</font> ] 23:26, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
::*The original hook shouldn't be changed to an alt, so I've converted yours into the alt. ] (]) 02:55, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
:::I agree that the original shouldn't be changed to an ALT, and that's why I did it the way I did, since mine ''was'' the original, posted an hour before the other one. But I don't think it really matters, so I just fixed the formatting but didn't change the order again. ] <font color="blue">•</font> ] 06:59, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
::::Oh. I'm very sorry; RFD asked me to nominate it for DYK, so I assumed that it hadn't already been nominated. ] (]) 13:17, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::No problem. I was also asked by RFD to nominate it. Thanks for switching the hooks back. @Alansohn: When I first saw that it was an article about a New Jersey politician, I, too, was surprised to see that it was written by someone other than you! ] <font color="blue">•</font> ] 18:32, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
:*] Length and sourcing for the article and both hooks have been verified. When Volk died I put a copy of the newspaper on my "to do eventually" pile, assuming that no one would have any interest in someone who was mayor of the town next door to mine, and I'm still astonished that any other editor would have gotten to creating an article for Volk before I did. This article is a great example of collaborative work to create a very thorough article. ] (]) 12:58, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
====Len Garrison====
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:*] All good. —<span style="font-family:Tahoma;">''']</span> • <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-variant:small-caps;">] • 9:10pm •'''</span> 10:10, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
::*The hook, at 221 characters, is too long. ] <font color="blue">•</font> ] 19:40, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Ah, quite right, sorry; try this, below, which is just under 200, including the '(pictured)'. <small><span style="border:1px solid;background:#00008B">]]</span></small> 19:54, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
{{*mp}}... that ''']'''{{`s}} ''(pictured)'' writings about black British identity and history led to formation of the Black Cultural Archives, and plans for the first UK national Black heritage centre in 2011?
::Hook length is fine now. Note that ''(pictured)'' is not counted, so the hook is actually 186 characters. ] <font color="blue">•</font> ] 20:38, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
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====Jack Cox (Texas)====
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:*'''ALT2''': that ] ] ] ''']''' lost the 1962 governor's race to ] and the 1964 ] ] to ]? ] (]) 14:34, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
:I can get the ISBN information later, maybe Monday.] (]) 14:54, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
::Publishing info is usually available on Amazon.com. I filled out the first and second references, but don't know which volume you used for the Texas Almanac. Is it one of ? ] (]) 15:24, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
====Jaguar C-X75====
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====Gracie Cole====
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:*''Comment'': <s>Hooks are</s>Main hook is cited to ], a UK library card is required for access.
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:For Alt 1, there's an additional online source which confirms all details <s>except the 21-point margin.</s> Alternative hook with an online source:
:*'''ALT2''':<s>... that trumpeter ''']''', as lead soloist of ]'s All-Girl Orchestra, performed in a live radio broadcast from Hamburg following the ] in 1945?</s>
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:*<!--Make first comment here-->] Date, length, hook refs OK and AGF. The first and ALT1 hooks both work for me. Tweaked ALT1. Good to go. ] (]) 00:19, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
====Zeppelin L.19 (LZ 54)====
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:*Comment: Surely that should be "because ''the crew of'' a British fishing boat" -- ] (]) 10:06, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
:*] Length and sourcing for article and hook have been verified. ] (]) 13:10, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
====Hero's Medal, Meritorious Service Medal (China)====
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:* ] Both verified, AGF on the offline source. Google translate seemed to corroborate the hook but I am AGF on that as well. --] <small>]</small> 03:43, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
====Danni Lowinski====
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:*] Length and sourcing for article and hook have been verified, as long as my understanding of the German source is accurate. All three hooks basically say the same thing, though I'd lean to the original hook or ALT1. ] (]) 13:06, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
::*Yeah, I know about the hooks. I hoped that someone might have a better suggestion how to phrase that =) Regards ''']]''' 19:51, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
====Andy Albeck====
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====St Nicholas of Myra's Church, Ozleworth====
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====Arthur Holch====
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====List of Somerset cricket captains====
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:* ] Which one-day trophy did he win? I see three listed under England in the piped "one-day". I don't know much about cricket and I don't expect every reader to but some clarity would be good.--] <small>]</small> 10:39, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
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:*'''ALT1''' "... that lacking any means to exit the structure in the face of enemy fire, the garrison of a ''']''' ''(pictured)'' could face a fight to the death?" ] (]) 13:44, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
::*I was trying too hard to be pithy - ALT1 is better. ] (]) 16:46, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
:::*] I have problems with this hook; it implies the design favoured a fight to the death, where actually it almost necessitated such a fight. In my opinion misleading. The article itself checks out fine for all criteria, maybe try another hook?
::::I think the ALT1 hook is OK. The occupants might have the option to surrender instead of fighting to the death, or they might succeed in forcing their opponents to withdraw and regroup, rather than killing them. I think "could" covers the likelihood sufficiently, especially since it's hypothetical anyway. Incidentally, I wonder if "the occupants" might read better than "the garrison", since the thing is only a few feet wide. --] (]) 01:20, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
::::I agree that ALT1's use of the word "could" combined with the explanation in the hook's first clause makes its sufficiently clear what the circumstances might have been. ] (]) 13:21, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::] the main hook is no good, as anyone can face a fight to the death. The alt1 is wrong, there is a means to exit, it's just not very safe during combat. Alt1 is misleading. <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — ] • ] • </span> 23:48, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
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====Boletellus ananas, Boletellus====
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:*] Dates and lengths both good. AGF of offline sourcing. --'']'' <sup>]</sup> 21:37, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
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====Jack Parkinson (basketball)====
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:*'''Alt1''':... that ''']''' passed up a ] contract with the ] to play for ] and the ]?
:*'''Alt2''':... that ] basketball star ''']''' delayed attending his ] year so he could fight in the ] for 11 months? ] (]) 03:23, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
:] I think we should go with ALT1 the initial hook seems to imply that he one the tourneys by himself which of course he didn't since basketball is a team sport, but we can't assume that all readers no this. ALT2 is certainly notable, but not all that unusual given the time period. Turning down a pro contract to play college ball is notable. ] (]) 01:00, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
====Cement lorry rammed into Leinster House====
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:*] Orphan tag I don't care about, but you need to add categories. Would be good to beef up about notability otherwise this comes across as a minor crime. <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — ] • ] • </span> 15:04, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
==Older nominations==
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===For a date yet to be determined, possibly around 14 October===
====Manchester Courts====
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:*''Comment'': This building is one of the striking architectural gems of ]. It's the one building that has received the most media coverage in New Zealand following the 4 September earthquake. Christchurch City Council decided yesterday that it is to be demolished. I propose that it be put on the front page the day demolition starts and have worded the hook accordingly. As yet, a date hasn't been set. At a guess, demolition might start within a week, i.e. 14 October 2010. If this proposal is acceptable, I'll attach the date to this item once it's known. As yet, I haven't got a current photo of the building, but it is quite striking and would certainly lend itself for the hook with the picture. to have a look at some current photos. Please note that obviously, the hook is as yet not cited, as the start date for the demolition hasn't been set yet. So please review the remaining DYK requirements first.
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::*] Date and length are fine, and sources check out for everything but the (as yet unknown) demolition date. Recent photos have been added to the article, and I've taken the liberty of moving the lead photo into the hook above. --] (]) 07:06, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
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====Ach! ich sehe, itzt, da ich zur Hochzeit gehe, BWV 162====
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:*] Date, hook, and length verified. Additional offline refs accepted in good faith.] (]) 11:05, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
===For October 29, 1AM London time===
====Dragan Tesanovic====
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===For 31 October, Hallowe'en ===
*] The ''']''' has started early. My interpretation of whats happening is ... 1. Move your hook to the bottom of the page (ie here) 2. You may get some more macabre, funny etc suggestions for a hook and it should get DYKtick'ed. 3. Then after its been there about 24 hours or so it gets moved off to the dedicated page. 4. Then about three or four days before Oct 31 we sort out the 40 or so hooks into "8"s (so they are ready to load on the 36 hours or so that is Halloween internationally). 5. We do the awards and 6 .... and please help with all of this. It only works if we all do a bit ] (]) 08:22, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
====Ben Cooper, Inc.====
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::'''ALT1:''' ... that ''']''', the "] of Halloween", said it sold a scary 4 million ]s in the ] in 1990?
- Hook corrected to show where costumes were sold. - ] (]) 19:12, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
:*"Halston" means nothing here ... you also have "High Priest of Halloween" ... I'd tic that? oops OK! ] (]) 07:34, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
::*Halston means a lot in the fashion world. I've wikilinked it. (Don't forget to sign your post!) - ] (]) 01:44, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
:::*Only in places where there's a JC Penney. Trust me, that subclause just doesn't work outside the US, and to be honest it's redundant, it could just be struck out entirely. Or as Victuallers says, the "high priest" version is a ready-made alternative that needs no knowledge of US culture, and thus is a better hook. WTGR Tim, you really need to think a bit more globally - 50% of en.wiki users are outside the US, and that proportion is growing. ] (]) 08:54, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
::::*It doesn't appear, Le Deluge, that you know who Halston was. He was internationally famous (he designed Jacqueline Kennedy's iconic pillbox hat outfit, which had worldwide recognition), and was well-known throughout Europe and portions of Asia. His recognizability is perhaps more time-bound (who knows who he is today?), but the quote was from 1979 (when he was still a worldwide icon of high couture and not a budget-conscious caricature as he was at the end). Accusing someone of ethnocentrism is, I don't think, an appropriate response to the proposed hook (especially if you don't know that person, or their contributions). If you are concerned that hooks are not worldwide in nature, I can only respond that 1) That is not a DYK criteria and 2) 17 of the accepted 22 hooks for this year do not involve worldwide topics. A far more appropriate criticism of the hook would be that it does not say ''where'' Ben Cooper, Inc. sold 4 million costumes (a very legitimate issue which I will correct). - ] (]) 19:10, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
::::*I added an image here. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to scale down as well as I'd like. There are other images from this company on WikiCommons, if anyone wants to take a look. - ] (]) 00:57, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
===For November 1, All Saint's Day===
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This nomination is a bit of a special case. I originally nominated ] on August 3 following a 5x expansion (see discussion above under ]). Everyone accepted that it met the DYK criteria but the nomination was derailed by a political dispute over timing. I've put forward a compromise at ], which involves passing this DYK now but scheduling its appearance on January 1, 2011, which is 60 years to the day since the seal was first used. This proposal has been generally welcomed so I'm putting it forward here for formal consideration. I'm aware that the timeframe is somewhat longer than would be usual for scheduled DYKs, but in the circumstances I think a some flexibility would be justified. I've put forward two possible hooks: the original one as proposed earlier, and a new alternative tying the DYK in more directly with the date. -- ] (]) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
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:*] Interesting compromise. It completely flipped my opinion of the matter. However, prior to providing said opinion, I'd like some clarification: <s>Are we nominating this (with whichever hook) ''sans'' image as you initially suggested on Jimbo's talk page?</s><br />--] (]) 00:39, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
:*''Appended:'' I see that you removed the image from inclusion in the original nomination, so I'll assume this post-dated nomination would not include the image either. However, this necessitates further clarification:
::Are we excluding the image from this DYK solely because of the recent interaction with the FBI?<br />--] (]) 01:05, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
:::In effect yes, but in my view it's a necessary evil if we're to reach a satisfactory compromise on this issue. -- ] (]) 01:16, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
:*] - '''Tentative''' Even if the motivation behind qualifying this article for DYK was questionable, I think you already achieved not just a satisfactory compromise, but a completely valid and justifiable use for it. In fact, it's use is ''<u>so</u>'' valid, refusing to use the image for no other reason than the recent hoobajoo with the FBI is blatantly (]) ]...and I just can't get behind that. If we're going to censor it, we need to go whole hog or don't go at all.<br />Could we put it up for ']' to avoid reasoning for exclusion of the image?<br />--] (]) 01:51, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
:*No opinion on whether to feature on the future date; however, it would be better if this hook didn't remain on the suggestions page for the intervening months, as it is bound to attract further discussion and the page is unwieldy enough as it is. ] <small>(])</small> 01:55, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
::Espresso's suggestion may be useful for more than just making this page leaner. A delay in nomination would lend to better perspective for those establishing consensus. In other words, removing it from discussion for a couple months would also put some time between recent events and the article (and hopefully image) being contemplated for a main page feature (unless such a delay would disqualify it from use in DYK section).<br />--] (]) 02:12, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
:::'''Comment''' This hook should not "disappear" for a few months. It is far better to leave it here to enable a wide input from editors on the issue. I think this is a good compromise that involves common sense, the proposal and special treatment of the timescale fitting nicely under ]. ] (]) 13:53, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
:* Support ALT2 for use on 1 January, 2011. ] (]) 10:32, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
::*Suggest scrapping this troublesome controversial DYK, the user that instigated the issue has also since retired, suggest retiring this idea as well. ] (]) 13:17, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
:::*Would you please stop with your blatant pushing of the issue? Putting this off until January removes all controversy related to it. <font color="silver">]</font><font color="blue">]</font><sup>]</sup> 13:44, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
::::*Your comment is just a simple personal attack, I have bigger fish to relentlessly pursue than this worthless disruptive DYK. ] (]) 14:11, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::*Nothing of what I said was or is a personal attack. I know you greatly dislike ChrisO and myself, but could you please not try and push an already outdated issue? <font color="silver">]</font><font color="blue">]</font><sup>]</sup> 14:42, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
:* I support ALT2 for the 1 January date. The anniversary makes this a very good choice for that day. -- ] (]) 22:55, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
The holding area is ]. Please only place approved templates there; do not place them below.
I do not support 1 January 2011. The DYK section is for new articles. There are exceptions like April Fools and Halloween; I do not see the point of making every day of the year a possible exception. ] (]) 20:28, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' Anniversary or not, a four-month wait at DYK is an overkill. The point of DYK is to present new or newly expanded articles, not to present "on this day". By then this article will be more than four months old. If this line of though is going to be followed, DYK is going to end up in a mess. The length of this entry is plain evidence for why keeping things around for almost five months is not a good idea. <font>] <sup>]</sup></font> 13:55, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
:''Do '''not''' nominate articles in this section—nominate all articles in the ] section above, under the date on which the ] was created or moved to mainspace, or the ] began; indicate in the nomination any request for a specially timed appearance on the main page.''
*] per ]. I would count this as a valid use of IAR. This could have gone up for today. The only reason it isn't going up is for political reasons. I disagree with Jimbo and others on that matter and think we should run it now, but there is no need to reject it entirely on that basis. '''<font color="navy">]</font>''' ''(<font color="green">]</font>)'' 03:03, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
*'''Support''' as this would have been promoted in the usual time window if not for the decision to shelve it until the political heat was off. To kill it now because a delay was agreed to would be an egregious abuse of trust. - ] (]) 09:24, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
:''Note: Articles intended to be held for special occasion dates should be nominated within seven days of creation, start of expansion, or promotion to Good Article status. The nomination should be made at least one week prior to the occasion date, to allow time for reviews and promotions through the prep and queue sets, but not more than six weeks in advance. The proposed occasion must be deemed sufficiently special by reviewers. The timeline limitations, including the six week maximum, may be waived by consensus, if a request is made at ], but requests are not always successful. Discussion clarifying the hold criteria can be found here: ]; discussion setting the six week limit can be found here: ].''
*'''Oppose''' per Arsenikk. ]]/] 22:49, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
*'''Support''' per NuclearWarfare and Dravecky—<font face="Cambria" size="3">]<sub>]/]</sub></font> 20:05, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
*'''Support''', per {{user|Chrishomingtang}}. -- ''']''' (]) 06:13, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
*'''Support''' - This was initially nominated ''in a timely manner'', with an image of the seal, but due to political considerations (public dispute between Wikimedia Foundation and the FBI over the use of the image of the seal) it was agreed that the image should not be used on the main page, and that the hook should be held and run at a later date, when the dispute was not so much in the news. The 60th anniversary of the first use of the seal makes a perfect tie-in, and while it is longer than DYK hooks are normally held for special occassions, Dravecky is correct that it would be egregious to reject it now on the basis of timing. ] (]) 19:07, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
*'''Support''' - cmadler really sums up the issue for me. The circumstances of the original nomination and the fact of the 60th anniversary are significant enough that we ought to make an exception to the requirement that DYK items be from recently-created articles. -- ''']''' <sup>(])</sup> 19:32, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
:''April Fools' Day hooks are exempted from the timeline limit; see ''']'''.''
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This is my first DYK review so let me know if I made a mistake. QPQ has been done. Article long enough (5032 characters), images licensed correctly, Earwig null results, article is well-referenced and presentable. Hook is verified and cited to a reliable primary source. However, I do not think the hook is interesting. Why should regular reader care that a video game is inspired by another board game? Ca02:25, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
Thanks, the reason I chose this hook is because there's a large gap in between the board game and the video game. I thought it was interesting to show the board game's legacy. I can suggest other hooks which refer to chariot racing, like the forty-three hippodromes and circuses, but I felt that less interesting because they are all just presented from a top down view. - hahnchen15:22, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
To me, the fact that this is a racing game based on turn-based tactics seem interesting, since most racing games are real-time. However, I don't know if WP:DYKFICTION applies here. Ca01:28, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
I think that it being a turn-based tactical racing game is interesting, it is certainly rare for a video game. Alt hooks suggested below, but I still prefer the original
I think the original hook is the most interesting due to the contrast of game years. But the alternative hooks are also good. Maybe more emphasis could be placed on the contrast between mobile game vs board game? Moondragon21 (talk) 15:13, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
... that even though California-based company Tellus does not possess a banking license, it offers non-FDIC-insured interest-bearing demand deposit accounts to consumers? Source: Barron's 1
ALT1: ... that 68% of funds lent by Tellus between April and December 2023 were given to affiliates of one real estate investment firm to invest in Silicon Valley housing? Source: Barron's 2
ALT2: ... that California-based startup Tellus pivoted from being a property management app to a consumer-facing financial services company? Source: Barron's 1
ALT3: ... that while Tellus packages together cash from multiple consumer depositors to make real estate loans, and is not FDIC-insured, it states that it does not offer mortgage-backed securities to consumers? Source: TechCrunch
This is not a review but rather than a comment, but ALT0 and ALT3 will probably have to be rejected due to both WP:DYKINT concerns (reliance on specialist terms that may not be easily understood by non-financial savvy readers, especially outside the US) and for also sounding rather promotional. ALT2 might be the only suitable option at this point. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:44, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
I understand how one could read Alt0 to be promotional (though I disagree and don’t see why non-insured demand deposit accounts are appealing but for their higher rates, which isn’t in the hook). But I’m really not sure how Alt3 could be seen that way—it’s highlighting that they don't purport to offer mortgage-backed securities even though they make what appears (to at least some professors cited in the body) be some sort of securitized loan offering without registration. That being said, I do take your point that people who don’t know much about managing their finances through investment could find these two hooks’ nuances hard to understand.Separately, I had been considering a book about the mysterious non-existent partnerships with banks that are mentioned in the article and were the subject of Senate scrutiny, but I couldn’t figure out a way to write it concisely in hook form without oversimplifying. I’ll take a crack at that over the next couple days with a clear head. — Red-tailed sock(Red-tailed hawk's nest)16:10, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
Overall: Thank you for this carefully-detailed article about financial wheeler-dealing. Contrary to above comments, it would seem to me that any intelligent person can smell he stink emanating from that dodgy company, no matter what country they are in. So well done for alerting us to it, and well done for writing hooks which may guide readers to take a good look at the article. I could tell from the hooks alone that there was something very unsafe about the company's handliing of money, so I would certainly not take the hooks as obscure or uninteresting.
Good to go, with a preference for ALT3, even though it has 199 characters (i.e. close to the max of 200). Please do not prune ALT3, because this kind of financial detail is important and should not be messed about with. Thank you. Storye book (talk) 13:58, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
@AirshipJungleman29: I am going to give a long-winded answer for posterity’s sake, but the short answer is that it is directly relevant.
The way that the fractional-reserve banking systems works (in a very simplified way) is that banks receive deposits from customers and pool those funds to make loans, while keeping only a minimal small fraction of deposits as actual cash on hand. Banks receive interest payments from the loans they have made, and in turn provide customers with interest in their deposit accounts. In the U.S., banks are required to be FDIC insured—this keeps confidence in banks and prevents a bank run.
Tellus, however, is not a licensed bank. As such, it doesn’t answer to the banking regulators. It also doesn’t hold FDIC insurance, as non-bank financial firms aren’t eligible for it.
There is another to pool money from several individuals in order to issue a loan—securitization. In the mortgage industry, it is common for mortgage issuers to sell mortgages to other banks and Qualified institutional buyers, who would collect the interest in the long run. A mortgage-backed security is a financial instrument that is backed by these sorts of mortgages (alone or pooled with others); the security is broken into shares which are then distributed to other parties. Unregistered securities exist, and can even be sold between third-party banks and other QIBs under SEC rule 144A, but the big rule is that you can’t sell them to ordinary people because.
The way that Tellus boost/reserve works (based on their January 2023 Boost ToS) is that deposits are general obligation debts of Tellus to its account holders, and represents only a debt from Tellus to the account holders. Tellus says that the cash accounts are not mortgage-backed securities because they are not; in fact, they’re backed only by Tellus’s future income as a firm—there is no specific asset backing them.
So, you’ve got something here that they say is not a mortgage-backed security. And they also aren’t claiming that it’s a demand deposit backed by a specific asset, while also claiming in advertising that one can withdraw money (for boost accounts) whenever one would like. So one’s left with concluding that that they’re essentially securing private, apparently callable (in advertising but not in the actual customer agreement), interest-bearing debt financing to themselves from a set of people that apparently includes non-accredited investors. And the company is using that money (based on public statements) for commercial lending of its own.
So, yes, the FDIC part matters, since it indicates that the firm is not acting like a bank would. And the MBS part matters, as it indicates that there is no specific asset backing the deposits. It’s its own thing, and it’s a unique and unusual model for a consumer-facing business’s finance arm.
The hook has been pulled from Prep owing to concerns about the original hook (which is now struck). Per the discussion at WT:DYK, there are two possible options: ALT2, and a hook proposed by RoySmith (labeled as ALT4 here):
ALT2: ... that California-based startup Tellus pivoted from being a property management app to a consumer-facing financial services company?
ALT4 ... that while Tellus uses non-FDIC insured consumer deposits to make real-estate loans, it states that it does not offer mortgage-backed securities?
I did not strike your comments, only some of the hooks above. Striking hooks is a common practice on DYK regarding hooks that are deemed to no longer be under consideration. For what it's worth, there did seem to be (emphasis on "seem" here, so correct me if I'm wrong) loose consensus that the original hook was problematic, so that's probably out of the question now, though the discussion didn't rule out RoySmith's rewording of it. That's why there's the request for a previously uninvolved reviewer, to make sure the final decision is impartial. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:17, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
Moved to mainspace by TonyTheTiger (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 369 past nominations.
Interesting article. No problems with copyright and hook mentioned in the article with proper source. Images have no copyright problems and freely licensed. Overall, the article has no problems with citations. Good to go. Toadboy123 (talk) 12:25, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
@Theleekycauldron, Toadboy123, AirshipJungleman29, and RoySmith: The article talk is pointing toward a formal WP:RM, which is a one-week process once it is started. Before it is started, a procedural reversion back to the original location is considered Kosher. Then the RM can commence. This was moved from main space on December 2. I am going to assume that if everything is settled within 2 months of that date it would be considered timely for DYK since it is not uncommon for noms to drag on that long. I expect to be able to report back with a properly formed page location consensus via RM before then.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:59, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
My attitude on stuff like this is that as long as you get the nomination in on time (which you have), that stops the clock, so I wouldn't worry about that. RoySmith(talk)13:53, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Source: "Only five mature individuals of E. perrieri have been previously identified in the whole of Madagascar, and a recent survey has suggested that now only three of these may be left (Analavelona, Ampefy and Maintirano areas)." https://www.kew.org/read-and-watch/madagascan-banana
Comment: No QPQ required as Laffuble will own this DYK as you can see from talk page. I (Chidgk1) just put it in for them and will deal with any questions they might be unsure about being relatively new to Misplaced Pages
Overall: Hello Laffuble, welcome to DYK, I hope you have a wonderful time here! I have a few concerns regarding the article which I will outline below, and will ping Chidgk1 since there are outstanding inquiries about the state of this article: ALT0 is truthfully the most interesting of the two hooks proposed. Plenty of things out there are critically endangered, it is a conservation category onto itself. The severely restricted population serves as a much better hook. However, the hook as it stands right now is not supported by the material within the article and the source, which states there are five mature individuals rather than three. I will strike ALT1 from consideration. iNaturalist is not a good source for the plant's morphology, nor is Rarepalmseeds, which is a site with commercial interests. A much better source for that information is either a study or the original description, if it can be located. iNaturalist's image gallery being a source falls into WP:OR. Google Scholar is a helpful source for finding research papers regarding Ensete perrieri, if you're stuck finding trustworthy sources. Earwig detects no copyvio issues, long enough, and new enough. I hope this can be of help to you! Ornithoptera (talk) 07:26, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
@Ornithoptera: We have made some changes - is it ok now?
Chidgk1 My apologies but I see that you have simply replaced the problematic sources for the “Description” section, rather than consulting the source and making the necessary changes to the article using the information presented there. That will not be enough to allow for the article to pass scrutiny. Would you be able to take a look at the source rather than simply replacing the original citations? In addition, the hook has not been updated per my request, since it is not supported by the article text. Ornithoptera (talk) 19:02, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
I've taken a look at the cited article and the description for E. perrieri is as follows: Ensete perrieri (Claverie) comb. nov. ; Musa perrieri P. Claverie in Comptes Rendus Acad. Sci. Paris 140 (1905), 1612, nomen, et in Ann. us. Colon. Marseille ser. 2, vol. 7 (1909), p. 74, descr. cum ic. t. 8., this will not serve as a viable source for the passage. I would be most ideal to first consult with the source before using it in the article. I noticed that you and Laffuble had issues with accessing sources, the Misplaced Pages library at WP:LIB, if you have made enough edits, can be a great resource since it has institutional access to several journals that can be of use. Ornithoptera (talk) 19:16, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
@Ornithoptera: Thanks for explaining Misplaced Pages Library. Have added quote for hook - is hook OK now? If there are any remaining problems with the description please could you comment in the talk page section below this as it is easier to reply.Chidgk1 (talk) 08:02, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
Hi, Chidgk1, I really want to emphasize to you and Laffuble that you should both read the issues I have outlined with the article. Only a few significant edits that I have outlined have been addressed properly, I will break the issues down line by line so that it can be easier to guide you in going about the necessary edits.
The text in the original description section has not been changed to match the source. The source was simply replaced, with the passage's text not significantly changed to address the new source. On top of this, Annales du Muśee colonial de Marseille does not explicitly identify this as E. perrieri. Unless the source is beyond a reasonable doubt that it is E. perrieri, it is not the most ideal. I would emphasize that it is most ideal to have the entire section re-written and updated to reflect sources that explicitly include a description of E. perrieri.
Laffuble Are you able to deal with this? If you are at uni maybe the librarian there can advise? I don't think there is any rush now so if you cannot fix it please contact me after Xmas and I will root around in the Misplaced Pages library mentioned above.
iNaturalist is not a reliable source. It is a social media site that provides valuable insight, but the information cannot be considered reliable as anyone can upload an observation and provide faulty information.
@Ornithoptera: You are right that most info on iNaturalist is from members of the public so should not be cited, however the few photos which they classify as "research grade" are reliable in my opinion. If you disgree I will be happy to start a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Reliable sources/Noticeboard so we can get more thoughts on it. Chidgk1 (talk) 06:32, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
I really want to assist this DYK make it through, but I really would like to have all necessary edits be done before I am alerted to allow for it to pass. Ornithoptera (talk) 03:47, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
Hi Laffuble and Chidgk1, has there been any adjustments to the article since we have had our last conversation? I don't believe there has been any activity since the 30th. In terms of the iNaturalist comment, "research grade" is a meaningless designation exclusive to the site, and has little bearing in many circles outside of that. Compare that concept with "reddit gold" or "subtweet." While it is important in some circles, I don't think it would be a meaningful piece of content for the article, and a statistic that can be in flux if the status of the observations is changed or if another is found. Ornithoptera (talk) 06:44, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Hello @Ornithoptera:. I am busy now with a GA of mine which is being reviewed. Pretty sure no one else but me will be interested in writing about that coal-fired power plant here in Turkey. Totally guessing but Laffuble might be a student so perhaps busy with studies. Whereas I am surprised no one from the plants project seems to be interested in this - I will ask there one more time. Otherwise I might have time to look at this next week. If none of us have done anything by the end of next week feel free to close it off as out of time. Even if that happens your comments are still useful for the future so I don't think your time has been wasted. Chidgk1 (talk) 07:40, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
I think that the statements about saving the Cavendish banana are mostly hype. Resistance factors potentially can be obtained from any species of Musa or Ensete, including members of the Musa acuminata AAA cultivar group.
Also, elsewhere I have seen complaints that research grade at iNaturalist is too easily obtained, and can't be relied upon. Lavateraguy (talk) 16:18, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
@Abductive: Unless Ornithoptera says it is essential to pass DYK please can you formally propose renaming on a separate section of the talk page and I will detail my opposition there. Chidgk1 (talk) 13:47, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
Source: Combination of Indigenous sovereignty was never ceded, and the continued presence of settlers is essentially illegitimate. and which explains how "Decolonization is Not a Metaphor". The paper itself as a primary source also supports the first part of the hook.
Reviewed:
Created by Chess (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
Thus far, I have been unable to verify that the paper "calls for the return of the United States to indigenous sovereignty." Neither of the two sources you cite above appear to support the statement, they just say the paper calls for a stricter interpretation of the meaning of the word "decolonization", which is a very different thing. Gatoclass (talk) 22:28, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
Again, a quote from a source confirming the hook statement would be required at minimum. But these suggestions thus far all look a little tortured to me. How about keeping it simple and straightforward, something like:
Having looked a little more closely at the article, I'm not sure your interpretation of the paper is accurate. Certainly, it's a difficult text to come to grips with - at least for me, as it contains a lot of academic jargon that tends to obscure the authors' meaning to a non-professional in the field. But for example, you state: "Tuck argues that ... because the existence of settlers on stolen land is illegitimate must be redressed by decolonization". Did he really say that? Because I would have thought that if he had, the paper would be more notorious than merely influential. On the other hand, if he is only saying that that's what decolonization must mean, he is simply defining a term rather than arguing in favour of it, and there is a world of difference between the two.
However, since most of the article is sourced directly to the paper itself, without clarifying quotes, it's hard to know whether your interpretation is accurate. I'm not even entirely sure if the paper itself doesn't count as a primary source here, which might also be problematic.
So, is there any chance you could provide some actual quotes from the paper, or better still perhaps, reliable secondary sources that have written about it, in order to clarify the point? Because I think it's obviously an important distinction to get right. Cheers, Gatoclass (talk) 06:54, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
@Gatoclass: The article is far from perfect and I welcome suggestions to improve it as I'm less experienced than I should be with writing from scratch.
I looked into this when you raised it the first time. The closest thing in the text I can find right now is We don’t intend to discourage those who have dedicated careers and lives to teaching themselves and others to be critically conscious of racism, sexism, homophobia, classism, xenophobia, and settler colonialism. We are asking them/you to consider how the pursuit of critical consciousness, the pursuit of social justice through a critical enlightenment, can also be settler moves to innocence - diversions, distractions, which relieve the settler of feelings of guilt or responsibility, and conceal the need to give up land or power or privilege. (emphasis mine)
So, the authors explicitly acknowledge a need for settlers to give up land. Likewise, page 10 of the paper criticizes decolonial scholars that enable "settler moves to innocence". I will likely have to make the article more directly explain what Tuck and Yang said, with better inline citations.
@Gatoclass: This is a bit of a drive-by comment (I haven't looked closely at the wiki article itself), but as someone from this academic discipline who has often seen this article cited/discussed in the field, I'd say it's completely accurate to say that "Tuck argues that ... because the existence of settlers on stolen land is illegitimate must be redressed by decolonization", that the article "views the United States as fundamentally illegitimate", and that "the return of the United States to indigenous sovereignty" is what "decolonization" ought to mean. The impact of the article is more like "let's stop saying we're decolonizing when we're just close-reading a novel" than it is "let's decolonize the US for real immediately!" but I haven't seen any exaggerations or misinterpretation of its argument here. I do think ALT4 is the clearest and best hook, though. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 04:52, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
Sorry, but we can't base content-related decisions on the testimony of[REDACTED] editors, we need reliable sources to verify content. So again, either clear quotes from the article that the authors are actually endorsing decolonization of the US, or critiques from reliable secondary sources supporting such an interpretation (although other interpretations would also have to be included if they exist to provide balance). Gatoclass (talk) 07:13, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
I have to agree with Gatoclass on this; plus I have some other concerns. What we have here is a summary of the paper, but not anything that meaningfully demonstrates why this topic is encyclopedic. A one sentence line saying the paper is influential isn't going to cut it. We need details on how it is influential and who is claiming it is influential. Additionally, we need to see different critical responses to this paper through quotes in published reviews, both positive and negative to meet our WP:POV policies. The current text relies too heavily on the paper itself which is inappropriate as the paper is the subject and is therefore a primary document in this case. Additionally, it isn't clear that the summation of the paper is entirely accurate and is not an original analysis of the paper which would run afoul of WP:SYNTH. What we need here is more reliance on critical analysis and reviews of the paper, and text which more closely aligns with the meaning in the sources without being so close as to be considered plagiarism. The use of clarifying quotes from the paper could also assist in this (ie let the paper speak for itself in key places). It's a difficult line to walk. Additionally, the current text of the article lacks any meaningful critical engagement with the text; to the point that I would consider this incomplete (ie fails WP:DYKCOMPLETE).
In short, we need a decrease in reliance on the paper itself as a cited reference and an increase in reliance on secondary sources about the paper with more critical engagement highlighted. A significant amount of work is needed before this can pass a DYK review. Aside from this, I think Alt4 is a good hook that is usable. It is verified to the cited reference and is interesting. I think these issues are solvable. Ping me when the article has been improved and needs a second look.4meter4 (talk) 20:38, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
Update. In just doing a cursory look in google scholar, SAGE and JSTOR, there are many articles that cite and summarize Tuck and Yang's paper which could be used to source the summary. There are also multiple publications which respond to the work, both affirming and questioning the limits of its praxis. This type of critical commentary is exactly what is needed in this article. I suggest the nominator rewrite the summary based on these types of secondary sources, and create a critical reaction section. 4meter4 (talk) 04:02, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
@4meter4: What do you think of it now? I've attempted to remove most of the primary sourcing and included reactions to the paper itself. Chess (talk) (please mention me on reply) 02:22, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
The summary is too perfunctory to pass WP:DYKCOMPLETE. You have not grasped the main point of the paper, and have not identified who the audience is and what the central problem is which in this case is intimately linked to the audience: educators mostly but also social justice workers who have been influenced by education praxis. The article is fundamentally a critique of education praxis around decoloniality calling out teachers specifically but also social justice workers for engaging with "settler moves to innocence" ("settler moves" is a term; these words go together in this order always) through various forms like "Colonial equivocation", "Free your mind and the rest will follow", etc. You've fundamentally misunderstood this section in some ways because you haven't identified that its educators/social justice workers/activists being addressed as being complicit in some of these practices within their work. Which brings us to the "Ethic of incommensurability" which is the meat of the paper and the first truly original part not based on prior work. You've not talked about this at all, which is not surprising because you never really hit on the earlier identified problem that Tuck and Yang are addressing through this ethic, and who they are encouraging to implement that ethic and why. See the talk page for more comments, but honestly the abstract and opening and concluding sections of the paper are your best resources in crafting a summary. A reminder that you can use clarifying quotes from the paper in the summary. At this point, I'm concerned that you fundamentally are missing basic comprehension of the text because neither your first draft or second draft have demonstrated that you can identify the key terms and conclusions in the paper. At this point we are no closer to being ready for the main page with this particular article. 4meter4 (talk) 06:07, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
Meh. It looks like this was Toadspike's first review. Let's not get all bent out of shape because they didn't do everything right. My suggestion is to just move on and chalk this up as a learning experience. Who among us didn't screw things up the first time we reviewed an article? RoySmith(talk)01:03, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
@RoySmith: The comments were meant for OlifanofmrTennant, not for Toadspike. OlifanofmrTennant had a number of other similar reviews, so I was hoping that some assistance and guidance could be given to them. If you want, I can re-add the tick, although it might still be a good idea to help assist OlifanofmrTennant so that their future reviews can be more complete. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:13, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
Ah, I think I understand now. Maybe what makes sense is the next time OlifanofmrTennant does a DYK review, they ping a more experienced reviewer to look over their review and give them additional advice if needed. RoySmith(talk)01:27, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
Passing ALT1.The article was nom'd the day after creation. Article is of sufficient length at 5181 characters, neutral and well-sourced. The hook is cited in the article (fnn 3 & 4) and well within length at only 123 chars. There are no close paraphrasing issues. Personally I find the fact that a plot starts in one universe only to be resolved in another to be more interesting than actors reprising their roles; the former happens rarely, the latter all the time. QPQ seems to have eventually done, although I'm not sure I understand all the brouha. GTG.
Overall: A newly created article that is long enough. No QPQ required. No copyvio issues.
The hook is interesting, but the source in the article says "secondary market", not black market.
There is a contradiction. The first section starts with "Fix Dessert Chocolatier was founded in Dubai in September 2022". Immediately below it says "Sarah Hamouda, who founded the company Fix Dessert Chocolatiers in the Emirate of Dubai in 2021, claimed to be the inventor of the Dubai chocolate". Ignoring the "Chocolatier(s)" inconsistency throughout the page, this first needs to be fixed.
@Jolielover: We're missing the secondary market / black market thing. The cited source trademagazin says "The special candy can be bought for up to 250 thousand forints on the secondary market, according to a report by Pénzcentrum." I'm not an economist but the secondary market doesn't sound similar to the black market. (CC)Tbhotch22:23, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
@Tbhotch: There is a primary market where stocks are rated and sold by the listed company itself and a secondary market where stocks are rated and sold at the stock exchange by the listed company independent traders like you and me. And there is a black market where illegal goods, goods without paying taxes, etc. are sold. I think the difference is quite clear.
I have no idea why some newspapers use secondary market as a synonym for black market, maybe because of the word "black" like the controversy about the black in blacklist, e.g. . In this case, black market or at least when using secondary market linking that word to the article black market and not the article secondary market, is right. Btw, in German media, black market (Schwarzmarkt) is predominant.
Thanks for the explanation. My concern would be WP:DYKHOOK since the hook says "it is being smuggled and sold on the black market", which was what hooked me to review this article. When I reviewed the article it did say that it was smuggled and sold on the black market, but the coupled source (mentioned above) was saying "secondary market", which makes it less illegal and attractive for the general audience (i.e. "The hook should be likely to be perceived as unusual or intriguing by readers with no special knowledge or interest in the topic"). The other sources linked on top of this page just say this: "The smuggling operation unfolded over two separate incidents at the Nickelsdorf", "customs officials at the German-Swiss border stopped a man who was attempting to smuggle around 45 kilograms of the coveted 'Dubai chocolate' into Germany", "products from other brands with both the original Dubai chocolate and its many variations fetching high prices on the resale market", "Limited-edition bars are commanding exorbitant prices, with some enduring long queues and even resorting to smuggling", and the most relevant statement, "Dubai doesn't ship to the U.S. and there is a black market for these chocolate bars now, at exhorbitant prices" from this source that is not used in the article. Both the hook and the article must be in synchrony to be approved. (CC)Tbhotch03:34, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
I think the hook is an overbording claim if it remains without an indication as to where this would be- the German Swiss border, maybe....! In fact checking how "expensive" it is, it isnt any more in Germany, and the claim apperas to be sensationalizing and not neutral.Wuerzele (talk) 18:29, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
I was going to make a similar comment to Wuerzele here, the article reads slightly promotional, with sentences like "She aimed to create chocolate bars that combined unique textures and flavors, focusing on the filling to set her company apart from competitors." There are other prose issues, such as not specifying which border is meant both times the word is used and never explaining what kadayif is. This source , which appears to be unreliable per WP:FORBESCON (written by a "Brand Contributor"), also does not verify the statement that bars are 100g, which is contradicted by the paragraph right above it. Taken together, I am not sure if this article is presentable enough for the main page at the moment. Toadspike20:17, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
@Moscow Connection: In case you weren't aware, DYK rules changed a few months ago to require QPQs at the time of the nomination, rather than up to a week after. As such, please provided a QPQ promptly, as the nomination may be closed without further warning if one isn't given. Thank you. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:03, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
The article was fresh when nominated and it meets the length requirements. I see plenty of citations, a bit too many in fact. I do not think that we need 18 citations for a single sentence. Funnily enough, there is also a citation needed tag in the article. The article needs a bit of copy-editing to look more encyclopedic (e.g. "don't"→"do not", "guys with fluffy hair"→possibly "young men with a broccoli haircut"). Is one anonymous video game player's mocking of a haircut encyclopedically notable? I see nothing about an alarm tone in the article and the proposed hooks do not strike me as interesting anyway, but there is plenty of material in the article for very interesting hooks. For one thing, the fact that the performers are 11 and 12 years old is attention-grabbing. Then there is the bit about brain rot and the use of "sigma boy" to catch the attention of non-Russian speakers. Moscow Connection, it is unfortunate that you did not nominate Betsy (Russian singer) for DYK alongside this nomination. I would suggest creating an article about Maria Yankovskaya, if she meets Misplaced Pages's notability standards, and adding it to this nomination. Surtsicna (talk) 15:21, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Frankly saying, I was afraid the Betsy article was not good enough for a DYK. As for Maria Yankovskaya (or Maria Iankovskaia; that is the spelling she uses), she does meet the notability criteria but she is not as famous as Betsy. And she is more of an actress / TV presenter than a singer, her article will be harder to create. (There's a biography on VokrugTV.ru . And now "Sigma Boy" entered the charts, so she is notable. But other than that, she wasn't in the news much yet.) --Moscow Connection (talk) 20:17, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
I have changed "don't" to "do not" and "guys" to "young men". But "fluffy hair" is basically the name of the meme. And it is not the same is a "broccoli haircut". --Moscow Connection (talk) 22:20, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Okay, I will create an article for Maria Yankovskaya. Give me a few days. It won't really matter if she or Betsy are nominated for DYK or not. We can still add links to them, they just won't be in bold font. --Moscow Connection (talk) 12:35, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
More bold links means more views, i.e. more people reading about the topic you wrote about. It is not a requirement, of course. Surtsicna (talk) 08:58, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
... that news outlets reported drone sightings in August 2024 over US military bases in Germany, well before the major wave of sightings in the US in December 2024?
This article is largely a piece of original research, combining sources that make no mention to other events. Its scope, as relates to the US sightings, is redundant with 2024 Northeastern United States drone sightings. Regarding UK drone sightings, it utilizes the deprecated Daily Mail (WP:DAILYMAIL). Regarding the German sightings, maybe there's something there. However, I'm not seeing enough sustained coverage to clear WP:NOTNEWS right now. Make some corrections, remove the bad sources, and make the scope more precise. ~ Pbritti (talk) 16:27, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
@Pbritti:, I appreciate your valuable feedback. I have revised the article, and added citations from reliable sources, as you requested. I would welcome any comments on the revised version. thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 16:41, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
@Sm8900: At the minimum, you must also appropriately link and bold the article you are nominating in both proposed hooks. Please do that and I'll look over the article again. ~ Pbritti (talk) 16:53, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
@Sm8900: Sorry to be a grinch, but there are still outstanding issues. I have, as a courtesy, bolded the link in your hook. The other issues will be listed below:
Citations are awkwardly spaced. Since you are an experienced editor (if not necessarily an experienced DYK nominator), I will ask you to fix this substantial formatting issue.
The scope of the final section is, with the exception of the California arrest, fully overlapping with the other drone sightings article. That portion ought to be summarized more succinctly.
Cutting down on redundant coverage may cause a length issue; consider adding further content on the German sightings and more clearly tying them and the UK sightings to the US events.
You oscillate between "US" and "USA" within your hooks. Please pick one for consistency.
@Pbritti:, ok, as requested; 1) fixed spacing between refs. let me know if further work is needed. 2) made section on US events more concise. 3) added signficant additonal facts and details to section on Germany. 4) used US consistently. I hope thats helpful. Please free to continue your helpful feedback. --Sm8900 (talk) 17:39, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
Sm8900, seems fine to me. is in no way an adequate QPQ review, so I have struck your inclusion of Template:Did you know nominations/Boxheim Documents above. You need to do a complete review of an article (Boxheim Documents, which is all done except for a hook disagreement, is not appropriate), and be sure to address all of the DYK criteria (newness, meets size requirement, hook interestingness and sourcing and length, article sourcing, etc.). See the reviewing instructions and the guidelines for further information. Best of luck! BlueMoonset (talk) 21:24, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
Cited: - While the hook seems true, the source attached here doesn't explicitly support some of the facts. It doesn't verify that Scorsese is known for crime films (just films in general) nor that SZA didn't expect him to find about it (just that his daughter (and potentially him) found out about it). It's possible his daughter posted the story without sharing the song with him. "SZA was shocked after she received the Scorsese family's blessing." could be partially implied to mean this, but I'd still prefer a more direct statement to confirm.
Interesting:
QPQ: Done.
Overall: Overall, the article presents no problems. Reliable sources exist, the paragraphs are cited, it's new enough, long enough, and there's no copyvio. ALT2 reads as more interesting to me, but it would also need a valid source as the linked one doesn't support the "emotionally unstable boyfriend" portion. I'd be more than happy to approve if this part is resolved. TheDoctorWho(talk)19:29, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
... that a group of Jewish refugees continued work on their Yiddish encyclopedia after fleeing from Germany and France?
Source: Trachtenberg, B. (2006). Di Algemeyne Entsiklopedye, the Holocaust and the changing mission of Yiddish scholarship. Journal of Modern Jewish Studies, 5(3), 285–300. https://doi.org/10.1080/14725880600961601
I am not a stickler for a day of so difference, although I can't speak for the senior mods. Date, size, refs, copyvio spotcheck, QPQ, are good. I do have concerns over the hook. The article does not mention Poland anywhere. Frankly, the lead and article suggest that they escaped from Germany, then France. Unless this is clarified in the article, the hook should be adjusted to Germany and France. And it probably should mention the Holocaust or WWII for context; the reader may be confused otherwise. Please ping me if any replies are made here. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here03:45, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
@Piotrus: 'facepalm' complete goof on my part, it was extremely late when i wrote this hook and I had just written about someone who had fled germany and poland - fixed lol Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 03:47, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
Interesting:
QPQ: Done.
Overall: AGF on all the offline sources. Baltimore Sun review has no citation though so you would want to fix that. ALT2 is interesting, but a bit misleading -- it does not convey the jocular nature of the writer's comments. The rest are also fine, although I recommend rewriting them as well to bring out more of their hookiness. Elias 🦗🐜 07:22, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
@PSA: thank you for the copyedits. I'm unsure what you mean by the review being unsourced; the quotation is in the cited source ("His Christmas record won't make him crabby"), although it is a stretch to call it positive, so I removed that from the lead. I've replaced "said" with "joked" in ALT2 and would welcome any copyedit on the hooks. charlotte04:17, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
Hm, first off my bad for the "unsourced" comment. Second, my issue with ALT0 right now is that it is a bit too wordy. Perhaps you can trim the hook so that it just focuses on "a song about crabs as a Christmas gift". That's all I have for now Elias 🦗🐜 05:53, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
All the hooks are good. Nom, if you really prefer one of the others to appear, feel free to swap it out; it won't need further review. But for me, passing ALT2, because of the attention grabbing contradiction of something as small and innocuous as a song supposedly causing something as geopolitically impactful as population decline.The article was nom'd the day after it's Christmas birth. And lo! it's obvs long enough, neutral and well-sourced. The hook is cited in the article (fn 9) and well within length at only 101 chars. There are no close paraphrasing issues (the scary-looking 44% is actually titles and quotes throwing up the usual false positives). Hook is dead good (see my socio-political waffle, above). QPQ done. Let's give the Main Page crabs. Serial(speculates here)19:41, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
Hi @NotAGenious: nice work on your first DYK. This article, over 5x expanded from 775 to 11062 characters, is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, and copyvio-free. QPQ not needed. The hook is interesting and sourced to the Finnish newspaper Iltalehti (which checks out, per Google Translate), however per WP:DYKHOOK the claim in the hook also has to be in the article. Can you add this fact somewhere in the article?
The hook also flows flows a little awkwardly. Might I suggest
I don't know how long this procedure typically takes, but I feel sorry for the guy who has to inspect all that bilge and sewage. kencf0618 (talk) 16:00, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
I think the start of the hook has a grammar issue, may I suggest:
Comment: The draft was made by me, User:Buckshot06 published it for me
Additionally 7th Marine Brigade is an alternate name for the Special Operations Brigade (PLA Navy Marine Corps), also known as the Jiaolong commandos
as of nominating it for Dyk, the article was published exactly 7 days ago so if i have to may I request the 7 day limit be extended
Note: I have replaced the word "police" in Thehistorianissac's potential hook with the word "authorities." There is no single Somali Police - most are a bunch of clanmilitia; most are a total mishmash of various feuding armed groups. The information available is not sufficient to even guarantee that the persons concerned were handed over to the Somali Federal Police, the bunch that exploits and rapaciously profits from the security needs of the inhabitants of Mogadishu. Buckshot06(talk)21:05, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
{{Buckshot06}} There is a {{cn}} tag in the article and the third paragraph of History deserves another. Please fix these. When you've done that, ping me and I will review this.--Launchballer18:21, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
Adequate sourcing: - There is a citation needed tag in the lead (can be cited to the OE Watch source) and an uncited sentence beginning with "Sixteen". CGTN is deprecated (see WP:CGTN), so it should be replaced with a better source. It is unclear if the CCTV video is an appropriate source, since the same entry at RSP says that "CCTV International" is also deprecated. The other sources look good; the National Interest piece mentions the Somalia incident as well, in case it helps.
Overall: Gonna list a few things here, apologize for the rapid-fire writing style. I believe no QPQ is required, as neither nominator has nominated 5 DYKs. Is there a source for the claim that the soldier in the picture is a member of this unit? As the article is currently written, it is unclear if the April 2017 and 5 May 2017 incidents are the same or not. SCMP says they are, this should be clarified. The article also claims that the pirates were handed over to the Somali Police Force, when the description of the CGTN source says they were handed over to the "semi-autonomous northern region of Puntland" – Buckshot correctly adjusted this to "Somali authorities" in the DYK hook but the article text needs to be updated too. Toadspike20:31, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
Source: Hans E. Mayer, "Carving up Crusaders: The Early Ibelins and Ramlas", in Outremer: Studies in the History of the Crusading Kingdom of Jerusalem Presented to Joshua Prawer, ed. Benjamin Z. Kedar, Hans E. Mayer, and R.C. Smail (Yad Izhak Ben-Zvi Institute, 1982), p. 111.
Reviewed:
Created by Adam Bishop (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
For a long time I have been considering creating this article. Helvis is mentioned rather frequently by the leading historians of the crusades, especially by Mayer. The reason I did not create the article, however, is that I could not find evidence of in-depth coverage. All I could gather was genealogical information, and this is all I see in the article now: a list of her family (parents, brothers, husbands, sons) in which she is covered as a link between various men. Is anything known about Helvis's actions? Surtsicna (talk) 13:22, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
I was thinking about creating it for a long time as well, and I had the same problem. I wasn't sure I should list it here, since you're right, there's not much about her aside from genealogy. The most that seems to have been written about her is by Hans Mayer, about the possible dates of her birth and marriages. I will see if I can squeeze any more information about the sources I have at hand. Adam Bishop (talk) 23:13, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
No, I suppose it was a premature nomination. I'll see if I can expand it in the future but for now this is the best it's going to be. Adam Bishop (talk) 17:25, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
... that the pornographic actress Bonnie Blue(pictured) attributes her success with married men to their wives?
ALT1: ... that for three weeks in 2024, Bonnie Blue(pictured) allowed men to have sex with her for free on one condition?
ALT2: ... that the OnlyFans creator Bonnie Blue(pictured) began producing content with 18-year-olds as she felt that the platform's existing content was not authentic or educational enough?
Comment: There are some great hooks in this. There's a bit in the video I got the image from where she said her shortest scene lasted nine seconds and it's a crying shame it isn't due.
Created by Launchballer (talk) and Meena (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 265 past nominations.
Comment I think the facts about her being banned from Australia and Fiji are really interesting/crazy so I want to suggest some alts if you don't mind:
ALT3: ... that Bonnie Blue(pictured) was banned from multiple countries because of her porn career?
ALT4: ... that Bonnie Blue(pictured) was banned from multiple countries because she had too much sex?
"Multiple countries" would need an end-of-sentence citation for Australia. That said, "that Matty Healy is banned from Dubai" was the most-viewed non-image hook of May 2023, so perhaps a bald ALT5: ... that Bonnie Blue(pictured) is banned from Fiji?--Launchballer15:02, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Overall: Article is new enough, long enough, sourced enough (althought some international coverage might be a nice addition), is neutral and is plagiarism free (just quotes from Earwig). Hooks are cited, and interesting. Image is free to use, and is clear, CC BY checked on Commons and YT. QPQ is done. On the hooks, I think "... is banned in Fiji" is a good one - I feel like 'multiple countries' implies several (i.e. 3+), not two places. Lajmmoore (talk) 12:11, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
That's a shame, I'd agree with 3-4, but I thought 5 was OK as its brief, and avoided gratuity. Happy to support consensus though! It's so interesting how interpretation of the guidelines differs between people Lajmmoore (talk) 21:15, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
This discussion seemed to skip over the first three hooks; they have neither been approved or rejected. Could someone assess them?--Launchballer23:32, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
Launchballer I can if you want me to, but I didn't because barely anyone has been promoting nominations that I have been involved in and barely anyone else have been building preps. SL93 (talk) 01:43, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
ALT0 so the source in Glamour UK but it is quoting the Daily Star & the full quotation goes: "Blue has also made claims about sleeping with married men, claiming that these men came to her because they were not satisfied by their partners. “It’s no secret women moan a lot,” she said to the Daily Star. "What they don’t understand is all that moaning is unattractive and making their men look else where for fun and pleasure." She added, “If women were better in the bedroom, men wouldn’t cheat. All their nagging about pots not being done is resulting in me being bent over their kitchen worktops whilst they’re out. I used to blame the men for cheating but since being a sex worker, I blame the woman. Men look elsewhere when they’re bored, so stop boring them.” I'would welcome advice on whether Glamour quoting the Daily Star counts as a RS? I also think the current wording hides the full implication of her beliefs i.e. that women are bad at sex so that forces men to go to her. ?
ALT1 so the source is Cosmopolitan which is taken as a RS on a case by case basis - here I think I'd lean towards it being reliable, as they quote Blue & the full quotation is "Blue said she offers the students the chance to have sex with her for free on the basis that she can film it and use the content in her online material." Y
ALT2 the source used in from GB News which is deemed unreliable (WP:GBNEWS) and "shouldn't be used as a source for living people" as per WP:GUNREL - I missed this totally when I did the initial review, so this is my mistake. I would recommend alternative sourcing is found for its inline referencing. N
ALT3 as discussion above
ALT4 as discussion above
ALT5 as discussion above
Overall, and admitting my own mistake, I would suggest that ALT1 is OK to be used, but that ALTS 0 and 2 are not from reliable enough sources. Further GB News can't be used to support information inline, please ping me when that is removed. Thanks very much for the reminder to be thorough, a good set of lessons for me as a reviewer Lajmmoore (talk) 21:03, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
I have removed GB News from prose, even though it was my understanding that interviews come under WP:ABOUTSELF. It should still be fine for the Filmography table. I missed the phrase "Daily Star" in the source and assumed it was said in a podcast, so cut.--Launchballer21:57, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
DYKHOOKBLP only applies to unduly negative hooks and there is no way that a hook about a sex worker having sex qualifies for that.--Launchballer10:04, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
Hello I will review this. New enough and long enough. Please could you check the edits I made.
I cannot find the original and ALT1 hooks in the cite above. Re ALT2 source says 'It is said that ...." so ALT2 would have to be modified but I would still find it interesting. Would you like to suggest an ALT3 based on ALT2 or shall I? Chidgk1 (talk) 15:55, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
That looks better - I would just like to tweak slightly to
ALT4: ... that it is said that Congo's first named woman artist Antoinette Lubaki painted her watercolours by candlelight at night, as no stories were allowed to be told during daylight?
@MumphingSquirrel: Ah I see now that the original and ALT1 hooks are supported by other cites in the article so if you prefer you could modify them. Also please could you cite or remove the 2 statements I tagged in the article.
Hi, @Chidgk1: cites added. Happy to go with ALT 4
@MumphingSquirrel: Thanks for citing her other name. Sorry for being picky but I am not sure I am allowed to approve ALT4 myself as I wrote part of it, so I have asked for second reviewer to approve it. Also I am not sure that youtube vid is a reliable source - the second reviewer might also be able to comment on that. Do you know whether "KCongo Art" who made it are reliable? Chidgk1 (talk) 06:35, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
@Chidgk1: have removed "KCongo Art" as has been made private. Was created by an arts organisation but can't check it for details now as access has disappeared. Thanks for your help! MumphingSquirrel (talk) 19:23, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
There are several other images in the article which might be interesting as an image hook – if the reviewer thinks the engraving of the Roman columns is more interesting than the photograph, then we could go with that one. Alternatively, perhaps a hook could be made about the theater tower, which has a heap of cool photos on Commons. Toadspike15:51, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
New enough (expanded Dec 31), long enough (1100 B → 8800 B), no copyvio (Earwig says 10.7%, and all paraphrasing seems fine), well-sourced. Both hooks verified in source, but ALT0 is much more interesting. Image is free and clearly depicts a column on a mountain. I think this photo is better than the older illustration. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 23:32, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
... that despite collecting plant specimens not to identify new species, Harold Harrington was the first to collect a species that would be named for him?
Long enough, new enough. The facts check out for both hooks; it just needs tweaking. Both QPQs check out and Earwig is clean for both articles. {{Botanist}} probably shouldn't be where it is on Harold Harrington and I think it should be moved.--Launchballer04:23, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
@Launchballer: thanks for the review! I didn't add the botanist template and I've removed it as it strikes me as a peculiarly formatted one. When you say the hook should be tweaked, are you talking about phrasing? ~ Pbritti (talk) 05:00, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
I was wondering if that'd be the case about the hook (it's my idea). I do not review Nathan Obral nominations and vice versa since we are very frequent collaborators and I sometimes provide assistance to his articles. Here's a possible ALT1: Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 17:23, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Article is new enough, long enough, and well-sourced. Earwig came back with 0.0% on every link (first time I've seen that) and a spot check of a handful of the newspapers.com refs showed no cause for concern. Hook is interesting and sourced to (two separate instances of) a reliable source. ALT1 is good to go for the Main Page – Nathan Obral nice work on this article! DrOrinScrivello (talk) 19:52, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
It is quite surprising that it took us 12 years to get this article, but it is timely indeed. It is new and long enough. Earwig warns of a "likely" copyright violation but I do not see it. Perhaps rephrase a bit just in case. I do not see any bias either. I think that, given the ample coverage, we can have secondary source citations for the entire Plot section despite it not being required per MOS:PLOTSOURCE, and of course the Film adaptation section needs another citation for the last paragraph. I also think that far more interesting hooks can be produced from this article, spoilery and non-spoilery. Surtsicna (talk) 12:20, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Thanks @Surtsicna. I also was surprised that there was no article about this novel, and I was prompted to write it by the upcoming film. I will make those changes that you suggest. I'm not sure about calling Bridget Jones a "1990s" romcom heroine, as she seems to be better known in the films which started in 2001. How about combining the death of Darcy & the upcoming film -
ALT3: ... that fans of romcom heroine Bridget Jones were shocked at the death of a favourite character in the 2013 novel, Mad about the Boy, and then again in the 2025 film?
I can add a sentence to the film page about fans being shocked about Darcy's death, as it isn't currently there and there are plenty of references.(Actually, the film page refers to Darcy appearing as a ghost, which isn't supported at all, so I will fix).
All the information from the hook should be in the nominated (bold link) article. I have thus copied the line about the film fans' reaction to the novel. I do like and recommend ALT3. Let's see how it fares on the Main Page! Surtsicna (talk) 09:09, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
Hello and welcome to DYK. Right now, Fossils of Finland is only 235 characters long, far below the 1,500 character minimum requirement. The article's wording is also in need of a copyedit. As this appears to be your first nomination and English doesn't seem to be your first language, we can be lenient and give the article a week to be brought up to standards. If you need any assistance, please do not hesitate to ask for advice over at WT:DYK. Good luck! Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:12, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
It has been almost a week since the nomination, but the article has not made any edits to the article, nor did they properly respond to the above. As the article is nowhere near a state appropriate for DYK and also now has a notability tag, this nomination is marked for closure. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:24, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
It seems to me that the DogWorldLive64 profile (used to create/nominate this title) has primarily been used for disruptive editing. And, while "the creator also engaged in vandalism" is not strictly one of the WP:DYKRULES, three of the five WP:DYKAIMs are to: 'showcase' new/improved/quality content, to 'acknowledge' the work of the creating editor, and to 'encourage' such behaviours and recruit others to do the same. Personally I don't think DYK nom is one that deserves/warrants 'showcasing' or the related behaviours should be 'acknowledged' or 'encouraged'. Whatever about an AfD, I think this DYK should be closed/rejected. As an extension of WP:DENY. Guliolopez (talk) 15:16, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
Which would be a good point, however this was started off by that user as a 200-odd character stub and would now be eligible as a 5x expansion by a different user. (It's currently just over 1,400; might finish the job when I'm feeling less spaced out.)--Launchballer15:29, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
I see this is now above 1500 characters (nice one @Hemiauchenia:!) so I'm going to review this. Long enough, new enough. Nominator is QPQ exempt and Earwig is clean. There is no hook on this nomination; I think the best you're going to get is ALT1: ... that the fossils of Finland include a woolly mammoth and a woolly rhinoceros?.--Launchballer15:39, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
... that China has sanctioned over 100 foreign individuals and entities with asset freezes and other restrictions due to alleged interference with China's sovereignty?
Source: https://iclg.com/practice-areas/sanctions/china Sanction reasons included interference with sovereignty, selling weapons to Taiwan and imposing unilateral sanctions related to Xinjiang and Hong Kong. Until August 2024, over 100 individuals and entities have been placed on the list.
While stated in the lead, the hook's fact is not sourced in the lead and is wholly unmentioned in the body. ~ Pbritti (talk) 01:36, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
@TarnishedPath: Looks good! I'm going to do a quick review of the article when I have fresh eyes and should have this approved by the end of the day UTC. Thanks! ~ Pbritti (talk) 04:35, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
@Pbritti: lol on your edit at Special:Diff/1268313206. Actually I was almost going to do this DYK review because I have some articles coming up in the future that I will need QPQ for, but then I realised that I couldn't because I had edited the article a bit. Anyway when I was going to review it, I did a bit of googling about another Australian politician named Pauline Hanson to determine if she was the first female to wear a hijab because a number of years ago in an act of racist belligerence she's decided to wear a Burqa in parliament. Anyway I was glad at the time to see that Hanson wasn't the first to female to wear a hijab in parliament. TarnishedPath05:11, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Hi TarnishedPath, just wanted to double check if were you intending to follow through on reviewing Payman's article? If so, I'll leave you to it, but if not, I would love to take a look at it when I have the time to this week! Ornithoptera (talk) 18:03, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
... that Elisheva Biernoff paints recreations of found vintage snapshot photographs, including details like lens flare and overexposure? Source: The New Yorker: "Working from found photographs—snapshots—Biernoff creates works that match, in size, scale, and color, what she sees in the original images." Artforum: "For more than a decade, Elisheva Biernoff has painted exquisitely uncanny trompe l’oeil re-creations of vintage found photographs. Taken as a group, the snapshots on which she bases her works are of no great distinction. Some feature a failure of some kind—overexposure, lens flare, water damage, the accidental intrusion of a foot into the frame, or the glaring reflection of a flash on glass or mirror."
Comment: Largest exhibition on traditional artworks from Tanzania ever, catalogue out of print, with original versions in German and Swahili. This article on the en-WP fills a gap.
Created by Munfarid1 (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 25 past nominations.
Kerstin Volker (1995), "Tanzania: Masterworks of African Sculpture", African Arts, vol. 28, no. 1, pp. 84–86, doi:10.2307/3337256, JSTOR3337256
Kecskési, Maria (1994), Jens Jahn, Haus der Kulturen der Welt, Berlin und Städtische Galerie im Lenbachhaus, München (ed.), "Einleitung (introduction)", Tanzania: Meisterwerke afrikanischer Skulptur. Sanaa za Mabingwa wa Kiafrika. (in German and Swahili), München: Fred Jahn, pp. 17–18, ISBN3-88645-118-6{{citation}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: editors list (link)
@Munfarid1: I am looking closely at your article. Can you confirm that the image in the hook (Makonde mask from Tanzania) appeared at the Tanzania. Masterworks of African Sculpture exhibition? Viriditas (talk) 22:27, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
Thanks for pointing this out. Actually, the only sculpture from the exhibition on Wikimedia is the Sukuma mask I have now exchanged for the first image of a Makonde mask.- I hope this works just as well. (This mask was sold to Stanford Museum by the Jahn gallery after the exhibition took place. I have checked it in the catalogue and this provenance is mentioned on the museum's image file.
I want to congratulate you on covering such an important topic. One thing that stands out is the structure and composition related to this exhibition. Misplaced Pages has hundreds of such articles, covering some of the most popular as well as some of the most obscure art exhibitions in history. I would say that none of them are written in this style. Although your article doesn't diverge all that much from best practices, it does do a few things that are unusual that I can go into, but I think it would be more helpful for you to take a look at how other articles cover the subject. One way to do this is to explore Category:Art exhibitions by country. You will find some commonalities in the structure of sections. These include history, floor plan, exhibits, themes, legacy, list of artists, images, and other sections. Catalogues are generally used as sources, not as their own focus. I think the content you added here works, but the way you structure it should not be around the catalog as you do, but around the exhibition itself. It's a subtle change in focus that wouldn't require much modification. It would also take the focus off the authors and put it back on to the art exhibits. Viriditas (talk) 23:11, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
I will answer on the article's talk page, as this complex idea does not stricly relate to the DYK nomination.
... that Polish 1960 sci-fi novel Wielka, większa i największa was very influential for Polish young adult literature? Source: multiple scholarly sources, with several quotations, all grouped in the section 'Milestone in Polish youth fiction' (but I am afraid all in Polish and few digitized, I was working with scans for the most part...).
ALT1: ... that Polish 1960 sci-fi novel Wielka, większa i największa was very influential for Polish young adult literature and has been a compulsory or recommended reading in Polish schools for many decades? Source: for additional sources regarding compulsory/recommended status, see 'Awards and recognition' section
Comment: 2nd hook is longer but contains another interesting claim, plus most English readers are probably not familiar with the concept of compulsory reading...
Improved to Good Article status by Piotrus (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 540 past nominations.
"Of all the unlikely musical developments that could have taken place in the closing years of the 20th century, the avant-tango movement is probably the second least likely (right after Christian death metal)."
Comment: I re-created this from the redirect. The article content is over 10x expanded from its previous greatest size prior to conversion into redirect.
5x expanded by 3family6 (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 108 past nominations.
This might be the most epic hook among the current nominations, and I suspect that even better hooks might be produced from the article. I hope someone more knowledgeable than me will take this on soon enough. Surtsicna (talk) 17:51, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
Overall: The article was nominated for DYK within seven days of being created and is long enough. The article is adequately sourced, neutral, and is free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing. Hook is interesting. Image appears to be freely licensed, is used in the article, and is clear at 100px. QPQ is done.
However, I don't feel that the hook is adequately cited. The statements that bugias are used by "Latin Catholic Bishops or other prelates" and that Béjaïa is "famous for its exportation of candle wax" do not appear to be supported in the article by at least one inline citation to a reliable source.
Thanks, Mattythewhite -- Do you know if DYKs can have multiple sources? I think to fully prove the whole DYK here a few need to be daisy-chained together, and in searching there doesn't seem to be a defined policy. Maximilian775 (talk) 20:50, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
@Maximilian775: I'm not certain but I assume that more than one source is fine. The ALT1 hook looks fine to me. However, I can't see any mention of bugias in the source? Also, I think the main body of the article needs to mention, with a source, the use of bugias by Latin Catholic Bishops, as it's currently only in the lead.
@Mattythewhite: just edited the source URL, it was referencing the wrong page.
As to mentioning bishops, the "description" section mentions cardinals and patriarchs, and the "usage" section mentions the Pope and assistants at the papal -- all 4 of these persons are as a rule, almost always bishops. Maximilian775 (talk) 22:22, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
Source: Campbell, A. C. (1898). Glimpses of the Nizams Dominions. pp. 168–169. Close to the Char Minar, on the left of the main r o a d, approached by a very narrow lane, is the Juma Musjid, erected by Sultan Mahomed Kuli in 1598. This is the oldest musjid in Hyderabad.
ALT1: ... that the Jama Masjid was the first mosque to be built in Hyderabad? Source: Campbell, A. C. (1898). Glimpses of the Nizams Dominions. pp. 168–169. Close to the Char Minar, on the left of the main road, approached by a very narrow lane, is the Juma Musjid, erected by Sultan Mahomed Kuli in 1598. This is the oldest musjid in Hyderabad.
ALT2: ... that the inscriptions of the Jama Masjid, Hyderabad "may compare favorably with the best calligraphic specimens of other countries"? Source: Yazdani, Ghulam (1921). Epigraphia Indo-Moslemica, 1917-18. Calcutta: Superintendent Government Printing, India. p. 43. The bold sweeping curves and fine, crisp vertical and horizontal stroke of these inscriptions exhibit art of a high order and they may compare favourably with the best calligraphic specimens of other countries.
The article falls short of a fivefold expansion even when I count the lead section, which repeats information from the rest of the article. Therefore it does not yet qualify for DYK. Surtsicna (talk) 16:51, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
You are right. I only see 3442 characters when the lead is not counted, however. Would it be possible to add 500 more? I would also suggest improving the citation style; rather than putting all the citations at the end of the paragraph, try putting them right after the sentence to which they relate. I am looking forward to reading a bit more about the masjid. Surtsicna (talk) 22:52, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Thanks a lot, AmateurHi$torian! I started with a source spot check. Citation #4 does not seem to cover the first paragraph of the first section (coincidentally where the hook comes from), unless I am missing something. It explicitly says the opposite, that it was not the first mosque, and it does not mention "congregational" at all. Surtsicna (talk) 23:22, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
@Surtsicna: Ah, I've just noticed that Sherwani calls the prayer-hall in Charminar a "mosque". This interpretation would make the Jama Masjid the second mosque of the city, so I'll strike the first two hooks. I've altered the article to the same effect. The word "congregational" is used in the second paragraph, and the source for that is #5 (Bilgrami) already cited within the paragraph, who calls it an assembly mosque. AmateurHi$torian (talk) 00:10, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
So far so good. The article is now clearly sufficiently expanded. It is certainly comprehensive and well sourced. I should also note that the expansion is recent enough and that I have not detected any close paraphrasing. I think there is an even more interesting hook hiding in the article:
New enough GA. Nominator is QPQ exempt. The hook fact is correct and in article. I am concerned, and this is for the promoter, about a MOS:SEAOFBLUE issue with both "Hyperpop" and "Hype House" linked, and I really do not know how to resolve it as both seem to need linking. A second issue could be resolved by unlinking "homestay" in ALT0. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 00:41, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
I did think about that, but I believe per WP:SEAOFBLUE it could pass as it only states "When possible, do not place links next to each other", though in this case, it would not be possible, as the source states it in this way. I agree that "homestay" could be unlinked in ALT0 (didn't even catch the sea of blue error in the article), but I don't think we can do much about it in the quotes.
Adding a note that the hook fact is indeed inline-cited in this article. I've gone ahead and unlinked "homestay" in ALT0. We may be stuck with the SEAOFBLUE for "Hyperpop Hype House" if that is indeed the case, since we are using a quote. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 04:57, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
Source: Re: smallest: "Even last season, his 11th in the NHL, Gaudreau, all grown up, was all of 5-9, 163. Among the 1,022 players who appeared in the League, only 15 were shorter. Only five were lighter."
Re: All-Star appearances: "In 2014-15, his first full season with Calgary, Gaudreau made the first of seven NHL All-Star Game appearances and was named to the NHL All-Rookie Team."
Improved to Good Article status by The Kip (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
As I considered the GA pursuit as a form of honoring his memory, I figured I'd aim to celebrate him with the DYK and avoid something about his death/the aftermath. TheKip07:57, 8 January 2025 (UTC).
Excellent work, The Kip. It was a lovely idea to celebrate the man with a GA and now a DYK. The GA promotion is recent, and the article expectedly passes the rest of the DYK requirements. I would strongly suggest including the photo in the nomination because of its quality and potential to draw in readers. I have some questions:
How do we explain the discrepancy in heights given in the article? The infobox says 5 ft 9 in (175 cm); Johnny_Gaudreau#USHL says 5 ft 6 in (1.68 m). It would be quite remarkable if he grew 7 cm after the age of 18. This has implications for the ALT0 hook because the NHL seem to have players far shorter than 5 ft 9 in (175 cm).
Can ALT1 succinctly explain or hint at why the decision stunned the hockey world? The hook would be more interesting to readers if it contrasted Gaudreau's success with the reputation of Columbus as "a bad destination, a bad city".
I see numerous high-quality photographs of Gaudreau and memorials to him on FlickR. Have you tried reaching out to the users who do not have their photographs under Wiki-suitable licenses to see if they would be willing to change the licenses for use on Misplaced Pages? It is not a requirement, but some of these photographs would be great contributions to the article.
Would it be possible to create an article about Matthew Gaudreau? On a cursory search I see enough coverage to say that he might pass Misplaced Pages's notability requirements. A double nomination would be nice.
Would it be possible to expand the lead? It seems rather short for an article of that size. I think it could safely be doubled.
Have you considered that a hook mentioning the Gaudreau brothers' deaths and/or the tributes paid to them might honor them by drawing the greatest number of people to read and learn about them? I know nothing about hockey and do not have any interest in it, and would not have chosen this nomination or read the article if you had not mentioned "his death/the aftermath" in the comment. Now I am glad I did.
@Surtsicna: Thanks for the response! I'll go point-by-point:
Honestly, I'd assume he simply did grow, though there's some inconsistencies with his exact height - there's sources over the years ranging from the 5'6" he was listed at the draft to 5'10" at one point during his career. Bottom line, the NHL had him listed at 5'9", and they're probably the most reliable source on this.
I've got some ideas for this, but I'm time-limited at the moment so I'll post those later.
With all due respect, that's a bit beyond the scope of DYK, and the article is fairly well-illustrated anyways.
Much as I hate to say it, Matthew doesn't really pass GNG. Only played college hockey and briefly in the minors, coached high school, and died alongside his brother - it would be heavily bordering on WP:BLP1E.
I'll take care of that a bit later.
Again, with all due respect, a bit beyond the scope of DYK - the current lead was found acceptable for GA.
I am suggesting changes that are not DYK requirements, and marking them as such, because you made me care about the subject. It is your fault :) If the height discrepancy cannot be explained in the article, I am not comfortable with promoting ALT0. ALT1 is still promising, but I think that it should be possible to come up with a hook that both highlights Gaudreau's achievements and causes an emotional reaction in the reader–with or without explicitly mentioning death–that makes them want to learn more. Surtsicna (talk) 18:54, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
@Surtsicna: regarding ALT0, even with the discrepancy of exact inches, the NHL source still outright declares him one of the shortest players in hockey - here's a second RS doing the same. I'm not really sure how the discrepancy creates an issue with the hook as a result.
On the issue of a more emotion-provoking ALT2 - I still can't think of any. I thought about trying to pull a quote from a notable obituary/tribute that didn't explicitly mention his death, but most of them were fairly run-of-the-mill. If it must be related to his death, I'd probably suggest:
But again, that would be my distant, distant third choice behind the original hook and ALT1. I really would prefer to avoid one solely focusing on the tragedy - I think most of us would rather that not be what he's mainly remembered for. TheKip04:11, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
That is a better source for ALT0 because it calls him "one of the shortest" when listing him as 5 ft 9 in. The one describing him as "the shortest" when listing him as 5 ft 6 in could be called outdated by the time Gaudreau was a seven-time All-Star if he really somehow grew three inches in the meantime. ALT2 is very weak, not at all what I had in mind. But the source you just cited for the height has the potential to produce something very sweet. How about: Gaudreau with the Calgary Flames in 2016ALT3: ... that the seven-time All-StarJohnny Gaudreau(pictured) was a "hero" who paved the way for smaller hockey players, according to a teammate now wearing his jersey number? Or something like this. It does not explicitly mention his death, but hints at a loss while also highlighting his success and achievements. A photo would make it even more impactful. Surtsicna (talk) 15:30, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
@Surtsicna: I could work with that, and I'd definitely prefer to include an image - not sure why I didn't initially include it, but I'll retroactively add. I'd hesitate to call Caufield a teammate as they only played together on the national team (rather than an NHL one) but it could be something like:
Alright, we will go with ALT0. It is a perfectly fine hook. We will need a single source for it, however, otherwise it looks a bit SYNTHy, and the hook fact should be explicitly stated in the article with that source. This will be overall useful because the article does not yet explain why this was special. Surtsicna (talk) 18:55, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
@Surtsicna: The source used for his small-ness notes at the end that he was a seven-time All-Star, so I think that covers it - I'll try to work that into the lead of the article, though. TheKip19:05, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
Right, I missed that. I would include it in the article body as well per MOS:LEAD, but I suppose that for DYK purposes it does not matter where in the article it is. Surtsicna (talk) 19:17, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
But since there is so much reporting about the reinstatement itself, I think a separate article is warranted. Although, I do not oppose a merge. TNM101 (chat) 13:27, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Source: See the sources in the "Early depictions" section.
ALT1: ... that the earliest depictions of black holes in fiction predate the term black hole? Source: See the sources in the "Early depictions" section.
Overall: Article was nominated for DYK within 7 days of reaching Good Article status. Article is over 1,500 words in prose, properly sourced, and written with a neutral tone. Earwig picked up an unlikely violation of 26.5%, which were mostly titles of short stories. Nominator has less than 5 nominations so a QPQ is not needed at this time. The hook is very interesting, but it'd be nice if you could directly list the sources used to support the hook instead of referring them to a section of the article. Other than that, it looks good and almost ready to go. lullabying (talk) 06:53, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
... that when the French web series Blow Up briefly aired on television in 2014, its allotted airtime was too short to fit some of its episodes?
Source: (in French) "'Blow Up' : les secrets de fabrication du webmag d'Arte" (transl. "'Blow Up': the secrets of the creation of the Arte webmag.") "Elle l'a diffusé une fois, en 2014, pendant six mois. C'était très intéressant, sauf qu'on m'avait imposé une durée de 4,10 minutes par vidéo. Pour certains formats, comme les 'Bio express', je pouvais m'en sortir. Mais pour les 'Top 5', il était impossible de comprimer les séquences." (transl. "It broadcast it once, in 2014, for six months. It was very interesting, except that I was given a duration of 4.10 minutes per video. For certain formats, like 'Bio express', I could get by. But for the 'Top 5', it was impossible to compress the sequences.")
Reviewed:
Comment: In the article, the fact is in the second paragraph of § Release. The citation is at the end of that paragraph.
Created by CopperyMarrow15 (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
Article was new enough and long enough at the time of the nomination. QPQ is not needed for a nom with less than five nominations. I did not find close paraphrasing. Assuming good faith on the French sources. The hook and the article don't exactly match: the hook says episodes, but the article says it was formats that couldn't fit. However, given the intent, I'm willing to let it slide since the point is still essentially the same. A reference also has to be duplicated to the relevant sentence supporting the hook fact per WP:DYKHFC. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:05, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
Narutolovehinata5, thank you for reviewing my nomination! I have added the citation as you suggested. Regarding your comment about the mismatching terms, the hook and the article are meant to reflect the same fact. As explained in § Overview, episodes of Blow Up come in various formats (e.g. "Bio express" and "Top 5"), so saying "a format" is equivalent to saying "episodes in a format". If you think this wording is confusing, let me know, and I can rewrite the sentence in the article. –CopperyMarrow15 (talk – edits) 03:42, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
Comment: The Church of St. Casimir is a 5x expansion, but the DYK script doesn't catch it because the page erroneously had an inline commons category link counted as part of the prose.
Created by Darth Stabro (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 2. Nominator has 19 past nominations.
... that the Deval Masjid was originally a temple?
Source: Eaton, Richard M. (2011). "Muhammad bin Tughluq and Temples of the Deccan, 1321-26". In Haidar, Navina Najat; Sardar, Marika (eds.). Sultans of the South: Arts of India's Deccan Courts, 1323-1687. Metropolitan Museum of Art. p. 180. ISBN978-1-58839-438-5. Locally known as the "Deval Masjid" in Urdu, or the "Vanda-stambhala-gudi" (hundred-pillared temple) in Telugu, the structure had originally been a temple, built in the late twelfth or early thirteenth century in the Kakatiya style Yazdani, Ghulam (1916). Annual report of the Archaeological Department of His Highness the Nizams Dominions, 1323-24 F. (1914-15 A.D.). Baptist Mission Press. p. 3. The great mosque popularly known as the Deval Masjid was originally a Buddhist or Jaina temple, for the seated images of Buddha or of Tirthankaras are carved on several stones. Later it seems to have fallen into the hands of Hindus, whose religious symbols can also be traced on the building.
Comment: It might be a good idea to make the page semi-protected before it features on the main page, as the conversion of Hindu temples into mosques is a contentious political topic in India
Created by AmateurHi$torian (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 13 past nominations.
it is perhaps preferrable to define for our readers what a "masjid" is. Therefore, I would prefer the following DYK:
ALT1:... that the Deval Masjid (a 14th-century mosque) was originally a Hindu temple?
Otherwise, the article is new enough and long enough, and the article is adequately sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems, to the best of my knowledge. The hook is interesting and has been verified by provided inline citation. Moreover, the image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear.Davidbena (talk) 16:46, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
QPQ: Done.
Overall: Expanded from 947 to 6649 in the four days up to nom, very few issues with sourcing, had to fix some close paraphrasing myself. @Cielquiparle: fix the issues and you're good to go. ミラP@Miraclepine19:57, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
@Miraclepine: Thanks for the thorough review and for catching that I hadn't checked all the credits in the infobox which were there from before. I added an episode list to the bottom of the article that lists which writer and director worked on which episode with references, after working out how to find the BBC Genome Project entries for each, and removed all the footnotes I had added to the infobox as an interim step on that basis. I've also pieced together plot summaries for each episode and iterated to use different wording from the original TV listings without changing the meaning or making it too verbose or too non-British. The running time, cast, and the producer appearing in the infobox are now discussed within the main article body, with citations. Cielquiparle (talk) 03:30, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
... that most of the films produced by the Huaju Film Company starred its co-founder and his girlfriend?
Source: * Hong Kai (侯凯) (20 January 2022). 华剧影片公司 . Encyclopaedia of China (in Chinese) (3rd ed.). Archived from the original on 7 January 2025. Retrieved 7 January 2025. "Most of the films were directed by Zhang Huimin, with Zhang Huimin and Wu Suxin costarring."; girlfriend: Zhang, Zhen (2005). An Amorous History of the Silver Screen: Shanghai Cinema, 1896–1937. Chicago: University of Chicago Press. ISBN978-0-226-98238-0. p. 385: "Yu is played by Wu Suxin, Zhang's girlfriend in real life."
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
Interesting:
QPQ: Done.
Overall: New and long enough, with no policy issues I can see. Hook verified (AGF because I don't believe I have access to the given source) and in the article. QPQ is done. Thanks for your wonderful work; I believe we're good to go! Staraction (talk | contribs) 03:06, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
... that the Yiddish poet Shmuel Hurvits quit his job as a teacher to become a street-paver due to an ideological appreciation for manual labor?
Source: Steinlauf, Michael C. (2003). "A. Litvin: Chronicler of Jewish Souls". In Steinlauf, Michael C.; Polonsky, Antony (eds.). Polin: Studies in Polish Jewry. Vol. 16. Liverpool University Press. pp. 371–412. doi:10.3828/liverpool/9781874774730.003.0020. ISBN 9781874774730.
New enough, long enough, QPQ done. Hook checks out (via TWL) and is interesting. Article is sourced, neutral, does not appear to be plagiarised. No other issues apparent, good to go. —Kusma (talk) 22:33, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
... that according to legend, troubadour Jaufre Rudel fell in love with Countess Hodierna of Tripoli without ever having seen her, sailed to Tripoli to meet her, and promptly died in her arms (pictured)?
Comment: This article is tied to the article Bertrand of Toulouse (son of Alfonso Jordan), which is also nominated for DYK. I have considered a double hook, but decided that the separate hooks are more interesting. I hope that the two hooks can be featured on the same day as a compromise solution.
Improved to Good Article status by Surtsicna (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 195 past nominations.
An absolutely remarkable article, hook, and image. With everything appropriately cited, QPQ'd, and recent, I'm eager to see this run on the main page. Absolutely outstanding work. ~ Pbritti (talk) 01:21, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
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This is my first DYK review so let me know if I made a mistake. QPQ has been done. Article long enough (5032 characters), images licensed correctly, Earwig null results, article is well-referenced and presentable. Hook is verified and cited to a reliable primary source. However, I do not think the hook is interesting. Why should regular reader care that a video game is inspired by another board game? Ca 02:25, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
Thank you for this carefully-detailed article about financial wheeler-dealing. Contrary to above comments, it would seem to me that any intelligent person can smell he stink emanating from that dodgy company, no matter what country they are in. So well done for alerting us to it, and well done for writing hooks which may guide readers to take a good look at the article. I could tell from the hooks alone that there was something very unsafe about the company's handliing of money, so I would certainly not take the hooks as obscure or uninteresting.
The hook has been pulled from Prep owing to concerns about the original hook (which is now struck). Per the discussion at WT:DYK, there are two possible options: ALT2, and a hook proposed by RoySmith (labeled as ALT4 here):
Cavinder Twins in action
Adrien Nunez as a basketball player
Interesting article. No problems with copyright and hook mentioned in the article with proper source. Images have no copyright problems and freely licensed. Overall, the article has no problems with citations. Good to go. Toadboy123 (talk) 12:25, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
Hello Laffuble, welcome to DYK, I hope you have a wonderful time here! I have a few concerns regarding the article which I will outline below, and will ping Chidgk1 since there are outstanding inquiries about the state of this article: 
- See below
A newly created article that is long enough. No QPQ required. No copyvio issues.
Reviewing... (CC) Tbhotch 20:18, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
The article was fresh when nominated and it meets the length requirements. I see plenty of citations, a bit too many in fact. I do not think that we need 18 citations for a single sentence. Funnily enough, there is also a citation needed tag in the article. The article needs a bit of copy-editing to look more encyclopedic (e.g. "don't"→"do not", "guys with fluffy hair"→possibly "young men with a broccoli haircut"). Is one anonymous video game player's mocking of a haircut encyclopedically notable? I see nothing about an alarm tone in the article and the proposed hooks do not strike me as interesting anyway, but there is plenty of material in the article for very interesting hooks. For one thing, the fact that the performers are 11 and 12 years old is attention-grabbing. Then there is the bit about brain rot and the use of "sigma boy" to catch the attention of non-Russian speakers. Moscow Connection, it is unfortunate that you did not nominate Betsy (Russian singer) for DYK alongside this nomination. I would suggest creating an article about Maria Yankovskaya, if she meets Misplaced Pages's notability standards, and adding it to this nomination. Surtsicna (talk) 15:21, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Done thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 17:01, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
Formally requesting a second opinion due to the uncertainty about this article. ~ Pbritti (talk) 01:25, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
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M/S Hessu, ordered to do the job on New Year's Eve
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7th Marine Brigade members conducting an excercise
Bonnie Blue in June 2024
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I just discovered this, and in my view any DYK hook that talks about a living person committing adultery should be nowhere near the main page. Ritchie333 09:44, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
Antoinette: Deux hommes trinquant (Two Men Drinking)
One of the Roman columns beside the modern pass road.
It has been almost a week since the nomination, but the article has not made any edits to the article, nor did they properly respond to the above. As the article is nowhere near a state appropriate for DYK and also now has a notability tag, this nomination is marked for closure. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:24, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
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Payman in 2022
Sukuma mask from Tanzania
A bugia as depicted in John Naifa's 1925 work "Costume of Prelates of the Catholic Church"
Johnny Gaudreau
Thank you. Assume good faith on print sources. Good to go. lullabying (talk) 05:39, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
The Church of St. Casimir in St. Paul, Minnesota
Doing... ミラP@Miraclepine 18:03, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
New and long enough, with no policy issues I can see. Hook verified (AGF because I don't believe I have access to the given source) and in the article. QPQ is done. Thanks for your wonderful work; I believe we're good to go! Staraction (talk | contribs) 03:06, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
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Rudel dying in Hodierna's arms