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== "]" listed at ] == |
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== Nobslayer == |
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The redirect <span class="plainlinks"></span> has been listed at ] to determine whether its use and function meets the ]. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at '''{{slink|Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 18#Look how they massacred my boy}}''' until a consensus is reached. <!-- Template:RFDNote --> <span style="background-color: #FFCFBF; font-variant: small-caps">] <sub>(''']''' / ''']''')</sub></span> 05:23, 18 April 2024 (UTC) |
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== Nomination for ] == |
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Nominating for FA. ] (]) 20:01, 26 October 2024 (UTC) |
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{{ping|Betty Logan}} {{ping|Mazewaxie}} {{ping|Vaselineeeeeeee}} {{ping|Wrath X}} |
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The genre is listed in this article as crime film, but in the reference is listed as a gangster one ] (]) 06:19, 6 August 2023 (UTC) |
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I think the article is in pretty good shape, would any of you like to bring it to ] status? |
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See ]. ] (]) 22:54, 16 November 2024 (UTC) |
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== Train Ride to Hollywood == |
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== Opening Paragraph == |
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As noted in the article, this film is one of the greatest and most influential films of all time. Yet, the article's entire first paragraph makes absolutely no note of this. Has this issue been discussed before? ] (]) 01:26, 9 January 2025 (UTC) |
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{{u|Bruce the Terrible}} has repeatedly to the "]" section. I have removed it several times on the grounds that it is not appropriately sourced. An editor noting similarities or references to other media is ]. I can't really expand much further than I do in my edit summary, where I refer to ], which states that such observations "should be supported by third-party sources that place the reference into context". A third party source is one that explicitly notes the representation itself. ''The Godfather'' has been riffed and referenced in hundreds of media; not all of them are important or worth noting, so should not be added to the article unless they are the subject of sourced commentary. ] (]) 20:13, 26 August 2023 (UTC) |
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:Its influence and the regard it is held in is covered by the fourth paragraph in the lead. I don't see this as an issue as these elements as a rule are not discussed in the opening paragraph. Indeed, ] (by which GA status is assessed) recommends covering these aspects after the opening paragraph, and states "Summarize awards and achievements using proper context in a ''later'' paragraph" . Obviously there are many valid ways of writing a lead, but the lead in this article follows a common format. ] (]) 02:00, 9 January 2025 (UTC) |
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:Betty: Well, then, how do I source it? I'm sorry that I can't find a specific reference to the use of two of Marlon Brando's characters in Bloodstone's movie, and I am sorry that ''Train Ride to Hollywood'' isn't as well-known as other pop-music movies - or that Bloodstone themselves aren't as well-remembered as other 1970s soul bands. All I have is the movie itself, which clearly shows the ''Godfather'' / ''Wild One'' references. What, then, would you suggest? - Bruce ] (]) 21:35, 26 August 2023 (UTC) |
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::If no sources discuss it then it obviously doesn't belong in the article. As I note above, not every representation needs to be added to the article; if we noted every single example of media that had riffed the film then the section would be longer than the rest of the article put together. ] (]) 22:49, 26 August 2023 (UTC) |
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::@] Thank you. The resource you linked is helpful and I can see where the first paragraph is uniform. However, to me at least, it is obvious that the fourth paragraph should be move to second. The film's acclaim is of far more notability than the standard intrigue and deal making that accompanies many film productions. One example of what I'm suggesting is the ] article. Your thoughts? ] (]) 03:30, 9 January 2025 (UTC) |
As noted in the article, this film is one of the greatest and most influential films of all time. Yet, the article's entire first paragraph makes absolutely no note of this. Has this issue been discussed before? Johnadams11 (talk) 01:26, 9 January 2025 (UTC)