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			== Use of the word 'dearth' in the cuisine section. ==
	== Municipal Logo ==

			I'm fairly certain dearth is the opposite of the intended meaning. Replace with '
	I am writing to request that the ]’s logo be added to the Delhi Misplaced Pages page in the logo section. As you may know, many cities without a flag or logo use their municipal logo as a symbol of their identity. Examples include Lucknow, Ankara, and New Delhi, etc.
			profusion' perhaps. ] (]) 23:17, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
	The Municipal Corporation of Delhi is the governing body of most of Delhi, providing civic services to a population of about 20 million citizens in the capital city 1. It is one of the largest municipal bodies in the world, with an annual budget of over ₹16,000 crore (~US$1.95 billion) 1. The corporation covers an area of 1,397.3 km² (539.5 mi²).
			:I assume it was the variety of cuisines and have rewritten it accordingly. The citations don't look particularly reliable but, I guess, that's the best we're going to get for cuisines. ] <small>(])</small> 23:53, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
	Adding the Municipal Corporation of Delhi’s logo to the Delhi Misplaced Pages page would help to provide a more complete picture of the city’s identity and governance. I believe that this would be a valuable addition to the page and would help to make it more informative and engaging for readers.
	Thank you for your consideration.
	Sincerely, ] (]) 06:39, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

			== undefined references ==
	:{{ping\|Fowler&fowler\|Tamjeed Ahmed}} ] applies in this? - ] (]) 10:46, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
			Hello {{u\|Jagadeesh93}}! In {{diff\|\|prev\|1247494381\|this edit}}, you added a reference to a citation named "GSDP". But no such citation exists, so the article generates an error. Are you able to provide a citation for the figure that you entered so that the material can be verified and the error fixed? -- ] (]) 16:29, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
	::Yes, ] does apply to logos. Unless there is something particularly identifying about the logo, it is better not to include it. ] <small>(])</small> 12:26, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
	:::But most Indian cities do have a logo. I think Delhi should have one too. ] (]) 14:22, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
	::::Let's add both the state government emblem and the municipal logo as well? ] (]) 17:41, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
	:::::What do they add to the article? --] <small>(])</small> 19:07, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
	::::::So, by this logic we should remove the logos and emblems of all Indian states and cities. Right? ] (]) 15:44, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
	:::::::??? ] (]) 11:33, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
	::Sorry, I've been an infrequent visitor here lately. I agree with {{re\|RegentsPark}} entirely. ]] 18:04, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

			== Raj-era sources (historical religious demography ==
	== Infobox tweaks ==
			Per my discussion with ].

			Original reply on user talk page:
	I did not mean to use the 'rollback' tool but the changes need a consensus. ] (]) 07:59, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
			Decreeing sourced data is acceptable versus which is not based on one premise is faulty, given the very same Raj-era sources have been used in academia for decades, if not close to a century at this point in time.

			There are thousands of papers, journal entries, media articles and other forms of encyclopedic material that reference census data from the Raj-era, many of which are sourced on a plethora of Misplaced Pages articles that either specifically delve into demographic-related topics or have sections that are dedicated to the demographic-related topics.
	== Why was the revision undone? ==

			Proceeding under the premise regarding the the removal of every single mention of these topics, any historical demographic-related note, table, or refrence from the colonial period of South Asia would be required to be purged, not just from Misplaced Pages, but also from all of academia and various media sources as well as anything else which has been published across the public and private spheres since 1947.
	Asking for @] on the edit ‎:

			This indicates a complete contrast regarding the constant addition of encyclopedic-related data and materials on a free, publically available website such as Misplaced Pages. Rather than proceeding with a complete purge, I would suggest a compromise that would benefit the reader(s): Any page that sources Raj-era censuses should include a disclaimer regarding the contemporary discussion surrounding potential inaccuracies. Any source(s) that can serve as further reading on the subject would also be helpful.
	''Please note that it is a state or territory, not a settlement. It does not need an oversize emblem that is almost identical to the Indian emblem, not a map that offers little information. Per ] and ] please take to the talk page.Undid revision ] by ] (]).''

			Regarding this page specifically, the censuses of 1951, 1961, and 1971 were also removed in the removal, which to my knowledge are not as controversial as the prior decadal censuses? ] (]) 14:16, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
	If it's a state or territory and not a settlement, then why did you remove my state or territory infobox and replaced it with the settlement infobox? The one I had replaced was of settlement and the one I added was of state or territory. You basically said I was correct, and then removed my correct template and replaced it with what you said is wrong.

			:Please take this generic defense in recondite English prose to ] where I have opened a thread to elicit the participation of a wider WP audience. And please do not edit war until a consensus appears there on what I consider to be spamming of a combination of ] and ] in anything but English prose. ]] 14:26, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
	The emblem, map or whatever things you're saying are a part of the Infobox Indian state or territory. Look at all the other states and union territories too, they are all also like this (], ], ] etc). ] (]) 08:45, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

	:@] I said it 3 days ago and you still didn't reply. What is making you undo my revision??? At least tell what's wrong about it. ] (]) 11:47, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
	::I don't particularly care what argument (i.e. settlement or Indian state or territory) is chosen as long as ''nothing else'' in the infobox is changed. But you have fiddled with the rest: added a rudimentary map of India with no labels in place of a multiscale map in place. You have also fiddled with the pictures. What is in place at the moment of writing is the hard-won consensus version. ]] 12:28, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
	:::] needs an overhaul....should not duplicate info/images. <span style="font-weight:bold;color:darkblue">]</span>🍁 14:23, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
	:::So if I keep the same images and use the multiscale map instead of the one which has been used for all other states or territories, then it will be fine? Because I don't particularly care about those things. I only want the correct infobox. ] (]) 14:50, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
	::::Delhi is only technically a state or territory, for the world knows it as a city, or metropolis. All other sister metropolises: ], ], ], ], ] and ] have only the Infobox settlement. ]] 17:11, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
	:::::That's because people often get Delhi and New Delhi mixed. It's even mentioned in the second paragraph of ] article. It's similar to how people get mixed up between New York and New York City.
	:::::New Delhi's infobox similar to the ones that all the cities have. Delhi, on the other hand, is the union territory, and the easiest way to clear the misconception to everyone is to have Misplaced Pages say it. If it has an infobox that tells its state symbols instead of things like nearest airport and metro system, that could clear things up. Also, the infobox Indian state or territory gives the option to write city in it, so that can enter both metropolis and union territory. ] (]) 10:52, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
	::::PS. I think it would be best if you present ''here'' what you have in mind; you can then get the input of many; otherwise, edit-warring results. Thanks. ]] 17:17, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
	:::Now what? I kept the same pictures that were in the previous infobox, I used the multiscale map as you wanted, what else do you want now?
	:::As of the emblem, it is the emblem of Delhi (sources: ], ]). Just because it is a replica of the Indian emblem doesn't mean it has no significance. By your logic ], ], ], ], ], none of them should have their emblems shown in their infoboxes because they are all similar to the Indian emblem.
	:::Also, why do I have to keep justifying myself for my edits, even when I am the one following the prescribed order? You keep undoing my revision which took me a long time to create. Why don't we do it the other way around? You are the one who is making an exception for Delhi alone. ] (]) 23:09, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
	::::I think there has been a misunderstanding. I looked up the edit history, and turns out it was @] who has changed the images. Maybe that is why you might have thought I replaced them again when I changed the infobox. If I keep the same images, I guess there should be no conflict between our interests. I will make the edit when you see this. ] (]) 00:03, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
	:::::Your edits were undone because they are redundant. You have two emblems of Delhi which appear to be very similar to the Indian emblem, and do nothing but make the infobox dip into the next section. So, no emblems, no city bird, city mascot, city flower, ... whatever else you were attempting to add. The model for us is the ], ], which successfully cleared ] {{tq\|not}} too long ago, and where the FAR referees explicitly asked us to avoid redundancies. Btw, I do know about New Delhi. I uploaded ] Best regards, ]] 05:16, 19 August 2024 (UTC) Corrected 12:50, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
	::::::Alright, you should have started by telling about the featured article model, because that seems to be a valid reason. If that is the case, I will not pursue this any further. Thank you and have a good day. GG )) ] (]) 07:39, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
	::::::Thank you for your cordiality. Best, ]] 12:50, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

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Result: No response to issues; thus delisting on basis of silent consensus. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:27, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

A GA made in 2012. Now has multiple unsourced claims that need to be addressed for this article to remain a GA. Onegreatjoke (talk) 17:19, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

This article is a mess right now. I'm gonna try to remove blatantly bad sources and content out of the article. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 12:26, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

CactiStaccingCrane, do you intend to continue? Also pinging potential contributors for their opinions: RegentsPark, Fowler&fowler, Vanamonde93, Kautilya3. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:12, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

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Use of the word 'dearth' in the cuisine section.

I'm fairly certain dearth is the opposite of the intended meaning. Replace with ' profusion' perhaps. Duncanbadham (talk) 23:17, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

I assume it was the variety of cuisines and have rewritten it accordingly. The citations don't look particularly reliable but, I guess, that's the best we're going to get for cuisines. RegentsPark (comment) 23:53, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

undefined references

Hello Jagadeesh93! In this edit, you added a reference to a citation named "GSDP". But no such citation exists, so the article generates an error. Are you able to provide a citation for the figure that you entered so that the material can be verified and the error fixed? -- mikeblas (talk) 16:29, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Raj-era sources (historical religious demography

Per my discussion with User:Fowler&fowler.

Original reply on user talk page: Decreeing sourced data is acceptable versus which is not based on one premise is faulty, given the very same Raj-era sources have been used in academia for decades, if not close to a century at this point in time.

There are thousands of papers, journal entries, media articles and other forms of encyclopedic material that reference census data from the Raj-era, many of which are sourced on a plethora of Misplaced Pages articles that either specifically delve into demographic-related topics or have sections that are dedicated to the demographic-related topics.

Proceeding under the premise regarding the the removal of every single mention of these topics, any historical demographic-related note, table, or refrence from the colonial period of South Asia would be required to be purged, not just from Misplaced Pages, but also from all of academia and various media sources as well as anything else which has been published across the public and private spheres since 1947.

This indicates a complete contrast regarding the constant addition of encyclopedic-related data and materials on a free, publically available website such as Misplaced Pages. Rather than proceeding with a complete purge, I would suggest a compromise that would benefit the reader(s): Any page that sources Raj-era censuses should include a disclaimer regarding the contemporary discussion surrounding potential inaccuracies. Any source(s) that can serve as further reading on the subject would also be helpful.

Regarding this page specifically, the censuses of 1951, 1961, and 1971 were also removed in the removal, which to my knowledge are not as controversial as the prior decadal censuses? Van00220 (talk) 14:16, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Please take this generic defense in recondite English prose to WT:INDIA where I have opened a thread to elicit the participation of a wider WP audience. And please do not edit war until a consensus appears there on what I consider to be spamming of a combination of WP:OR and WP:SYNTHESIS in anything but English prose. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 14:26, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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