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Henry I

https://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Pipera#Still_December_2024

Awaiting your response. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pipera (talk • contribs) 23:34, December 31, 2024 (UTC)

My response is that once again you've chosen NOT to sign your posts, after being a wikipedian since 2006. I have no interest in your content dispute. I'm becoming very interested in your continued disruptive behaviors. BusterD (talk) 02:51, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

You've got mail

Titan2456 (talk) 23:20, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

In order to prevent my email address being disseminated around the planet I rarely reply to personal email. On the merits, I have no interest in jumping in the middle of what appears to be a content dispute. Normally you should take such disagreements to a board designed to help, like the Misplaced Pages:Dispute resolution noticeboard, but I see a case is already filed there. Why do you need my personal help when you have already applied at the appropriate place? It appears to me the concerned editors are represented. My remit is not about taking sides, instead to help with bad behaviors. I see no reason to intrude myself unduly with working processes. BusterD (talk) 23:45, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

I understand your concern regarding sharing your personal email address. My request for advice / guidance is unrelated to the content dispute at DRN, which I am not involved in. My request was not for a content dispute rather guidance over a separate matter. If you do not want to provide advice or would like to do so publicly I would be happy to comply. My request was made on the basis of WP:RFAA which allows administrators, or other experienced users, may be willing to informally offer an opinion if you ask them privately Hope that clarifies. Titan2456 (talk) 03:19, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

I understand that. I am choosing NOT to intrude myself further into something already being resolved the correct noticeboard. BusterD (talk) 10:12, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Guide for writing article

Hi BusterD, You reviewed and deleted my article due to promotional content. Could you please provide details on which parts of the content sound promotional? If so, we will remove those sections. Additionally, am I still permitted to use the page Airpaz, or do I need to choose a different name? Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jodysetiawan23 (talk • contribs) 03:34, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

They are mistaken. So far as I'm aware, I have had no action related to this editor or their edits. I do see them with an active draft (Draft:Airpaz and they are apparently contacting several other admins. BusterD (talk) 10:10, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Good Evening @BusterD! The page I (tried) to published was deleted lol. Are you able to provide feedback on specifically what I can do to fix it? It was not intended to be promotional at all. It has links to a medically, peer reviewed published article and other research related content. Thank you so much and happy new year :) Vh378ik (talk) 02:05, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

I read the page and the page history. We're not the yellow pages. BusterD (talk) 02:13, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for getting back to me! I apologize for not adhering to the guidelines properly. I reviewed the guidelines and the error message provided and tried to revise the page accordingly. Could you please provide more specific guidance on what could be improved to make it more in line with Misplaced Pages's standards? I attempted to cite reputable sources in the hopes of ensuring verifiability, but maybe what you are saying is I may have focused too much on listing achievements without the necessary context and depth? Any suggestions on how to balance this with a more encyclopedic tone would be greatly appreciated! Thank you :) Vh378ik (talk) 02:19, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

There's not a single applied source (ex: news article or book reference) which directly details the practice. None of the listed references meet our standard for independent WP:Reliable sources. Four of them are from Instagram. The page reads like you're selling something. That's not why we volunteer to help Misplaced Pages, to promote folks' worthy small businesses. BusterD (talk) 02:40, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

Thank you so much for taking the time to

provide your feedback! I understand the importance of adhering to Misplaced Pages’s guidelines and avoiding promotional content. I apologize if the previous version of the article did not meet those standards. My intention was not to promote but to document verifiable accomplishments in both public health and outdoor content creation.

I would like to clarify that I do have a peer-reviewed, medically published article that I can cite, which I believe would meet the reliable sourcing criteria. I will focus on incorporating more independent, secondary sources (such as articles and publications) that directly cover the subject’s contributions rather than personal social media references and try again! Thank you so much! Vh378ik (talk) 02:51, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

If I wanted to pursue this, I would create a draft using the WP:Articles for creation process. I would write as small a stub as I could get away with, and source the crap out of it before asking anyone to review it. I would avoid adverbs or adjectives. I would avoid any interpretations or pontificating. If I were trying this, I would first want to know about WP:Biographies of living persons policies, and the struggle of wikipedians (like User:SlimVirgin) to create that policy designed to protect living subjects from having false or disparaging material about them, unless the material is cited with reliable sources. I have friends who have articles written about them, and it's a terrible thing sometimes. They are mostly way out of date and poorly sourced; anything negative about them which is published sticks to the page like lint, impossible to brush away. Please don't treat Misplaced Pages like social media. If Britannica wouldn't write an article about you, you probably shouldn't either. I'm trying to be nice here. BusterD (talk) 03:06, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

Thank you so much for taking the time to provide such detailed feedback and guidance! I truly appreciate you explaining everything and your insights on protecting living subjects through the WP:Biographies of living persons policy.

I now understand how my draft did not align with the expectations for notability and proper citation. Your explanation has given me a much clearer understanding of where I went wrong and how to approach this more thoughtfully in the future.

If I decide to pursue this further, I will be sure to create a concise, well-sourced draft following the WP:Articles for creation process, prioritizing independent, reliable sources and avoiding subjective language.

Thank you again for your patience and for sharing your expertise—your thoughtful feedback has been invaluable, and I’m grateful for the time you took to help me better understand these standards! Vh378ik (talk) 13:56, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay, but happy holidays!

Everyone's doing well :) I mean, I got COVID, but that's a small dent in a very good holiday season – I got to visit my partner out east for the first time in a while. I hope you had great holiday too! Getting to finally meet you was a highlight of my year. I feel... a little nervous about this year? I'm trying to go with the flow, which right now is "waterfall", but I think I'm handling it okay How about you, are things going good? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 07:22, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Glad to hear you and yours are well. Certainly are in the soup now! But you'll be fine. Just remember to kick your feet, swing your arms smoothly, and breathe. You know, camp stuff! I'm hoping you aren't undervaluing the importance of the RL process you are undergoing right now. As important as what we do on Misplaced Pages, getting your entire future on-track is a far higher priority. Hate to sound like your dad, here. Arb stuff will keep your spare reading time occupied this year, and I'm glad it's happening at a moment when you may focus on it. Proud of you. Finally, you guys know I'm your biggest wikifan, but I'd like you and User:Tamzin to let somebody else moderate the next few RfAs. Take your RFA-upgrade victory lap, leeky! IMHO, it's an awkward look when any small number of wikipedians appear to have chosen to be gatekeepers. And you are officially busy... BusterD (talk) 00:32, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

My monitor work so far has been pretty minimal, but by all means, feel free to take the next one! Even assuming I'm available and uninvolved, I don't intend to jump on unless no one's signed up as moderator after 24 hours (or if some urgent need for a monitor arises). -- Tamzin (they|xe|🤷) 00:40, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

I've already doted on you; you guys know I trust you both implicitly. But appearances matter, and remember I'm on your team when I say something like this. I have no special interest in taking such responsibilities, although I'll be proud to do so when needed. BusterD (talk) 00:45, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Quick wiki-archaeological undeletion

Hey, if you're still around, per your message on my talk page, could you undelete all revisions at Misplaced Pages:How does one edit a page for me? So the history of the page move from there to Misplaced Pages:How to edit a page can be preserved. It got clobbered over; see the relevant page history; there'll be no overlapping edits now. Thanks! Graham87 (talk) 10:29, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Did you get this message? Graham87 (talk) 01:49, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

I'm sorry; I remember reading this and thought I'd done the undeletion. Done BusterD (talk) 01:53, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks, perfect! Graham87 (talk) 05:09, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Protection for the article 2025 New Orleans truck attack

Thank you for protecting the article 2025 New Orleans truck attack with full protection, given persistent attempts by a particular user to insert material without a reliable secondary source in support, which is a violation of the biographies of living persons policy as you corrected noted, but perhaps it might be advisable to extent the edit protection for longer than merely a few hours as that might not be sufficient. Justthefacts (talk) 00:06, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Nope. We never do cool down blocks, but we do establish temporary protection regimes from time to time, just to cool down the weirdness. Three hours should be enough to get folks busy on talk, which is my primary intention. Folks who disagree are fine with me so long as they're actually arguing. Disagreement is Misplaced Pages's secret. Arguing is a great way to nudge us all closer to agreement, and consensus based on argument is hard to shift rapidly. Too many parties interested in the same outcome. Just watch. BusterD (talk) 00:15, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Hopefully that particular user will not attempt to insert material without a reliable secondary source in violation of the biographies of living persons policy again. Do keep a look out. --Justthefacts (talk) 00:18, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Don't for moment think other admins aren't watching this (or reading this). They care just as much as you and I. But they trust you and I because they can only be in so many places at one time. So sing out! And don't be shy about making this case on talk... BusterD (talk) 00:35, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – January 2025

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2024).

Administrator changes

Sennecaster

• Daniel
• Hog Farm

• BozMo
• Ferret
• John M Wolfson
• MaxSem
• Panyd
• Tide rolls
• Titoxd

CheckUser changes

• Daniel
• Elli
• Liz
• ScottishFinnishRadish
• Theleekycauldron

Worm That Turned

Ferret

Oversight changes

• Daniel
• Elli
• Liz
• ScottishFinnishRadish
• Theleekycauldron

Worm That Turned

Guideline and policy news

• Following an RFC, Misplaced Pages:Notability (species) was adopted as a subject-specific notability guideline.
• A request for comment is open to discuss whether admins should be advised to warn users rather than issue no-warning blocks to those who have posted promotional content outside of article space.

Technical news

• The Nuke feature also now provides links to the userpage of the user whose pages were deleted, and to the pages which were not selected for deletion, after page deletions are queued. This enables easier follow-up admin-actions.

Arbitration

• Following the 2024 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been elected to the Arbitration Committee: CaptainEek, Daniel, Elli, KrakatoaKatie, Liz, Primefac, ScottishFinnishRadish, Theleekycauldron, Worm That Turned.

Miscellaneous

• A New Pages Patrol backlog drive is happening in January 2025 to reduce the number of unreviewed articles and redirects in the new pages feed. Sign up here to participate!

Governor of New Hampshire

Howdy. Another example of how premature changes can be problematic, particular when there's a mix up on the date. See Chris Sununu & Kelly Ayotte, there was & is, a confusion about when the latter succeeds the former as governor of New Hampshire. I fixed the dates, but it's too much hassle to undo many other edits involved. GoodDay (talk) 23:45, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

It's a real problem which could bite us. Regular editors had all those pages ready, making it simple for the sooners. Thanks for the eyes. Can only be in so many places at once. BusterD (talk) 23:58, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

manual review

How long does it take for the reviewers to do a manual review to give me EC again? 54rt678 (talk) 20:49, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

@BusterD User came onto IRC Live Help to ask the same question. It is my opinion they are trying to game the system to get EC again, and have been camping out on recent changes in bad faith to get the required number of edits. qcne (talk) 21:16, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

Re: private equity

I saw your comment on Jimbo's page and it made me realize you might be interested in the work of Andrew deWaard, particularly his book Derivative Media: How Wall Street Devours Culture. The author has made the book free to download. I had been meaning to create articles about the author or book, but still haven't got around to it. Viriditas (talk) 22:30, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

Italian torpedo boat Arione (1938)

I've restored the redirect to the class article for this ship. This is normal practice for ships which do not have their own article as it gives the reader the opportunity to discover more about the ship than given by a red link Lyndaship (talk) 13:06, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks! I always like to know when I'm making more work for others. We might want to appropriately caution the tagger User:Zala in such cases. I believe they tagged in good faith. Others of their edits look like they might need your inspection. BusterD (talk) 13:27, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

Draft:Atul Subhash

Hello, I am trying to draft a brief article on Atul Subhash using many newspaper articles as reference. I do not intend to publish it, until it is properly structured with relevant references. Hope, you will agree and allow me to create such a small draft article. Pl let me know, if I need to talk to you before publishing. Do let me know any other guidelined I need to follow. Thank you. BuddhaSmiling (talk) 21:47, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

I am unable to help you. I suggest you visit WP:Articles for creation for folks willing to assist you create a draft. BusterD (talk) 23:42, 12 January 2025 (UTC)