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:::Would you like to tell me how I'm distorting the meaning of your words?] 21:34, 30 May 2007 (UTC) :::Would you like to tell me how I'm distorting the meaning of your words?] 21:34, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
::::That should looks like this '''We are not speaking about historical fact rather than perception. This page is not about historical facts, ''it is about national heroes of Azerbaijan honoured in Azerbaijan as such.'' Assumption might be based on myths, narratives, traditions, and finally some kind of official blessing'''
::::I think people with medium level of intelligence understand what I am talking about when we speak about historical myths, perceptions, traditions. Like Russian believe that legendary Igor was their national hero, though he might been even Scandinavian, non-Russian. Romul and Rem might be - or not - founders of Rome. This is legend, myth, perception. But this people are honoured in Italy or Russia as founders or heroes respectively. The same with Babek whoever he was. We have created the page about heroes honoured in Azerbaijan. --] 21:49, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

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Mylo Carbia

Good job and very professional! My hat off to you. Wiki needs more people like you.Tony the Marine 05:23, 21 November 2005 (UTC)


(P.S. You didn't answer me if it's in Glendale, Arizona? (smile).)


Barnstar

This Tireless Contributor Barnstar is presented to User:Richfife, for his amazing investigative work in Wilipedia articles. Presented by Tony the Marine 23:44, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

Please accept this barnstar on my behalf. You deserve it and if you wish you may display it on your User page. For me it has been an honor to have befriended you. Tony the Marine 23:44, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

(P.S. I would like to know if you can check this guy out Frederick Lois Riefkohl?)


Online IQ Testing

iqte.st is a professional resource. It educates the general audience about the perils of online iq testing. Declaring it "spam" is risible. Consider removing links to unethical online businesses before removing a valuable educational resource acessible to the general Wiki community. As I've stated elsewhere, I have no personal or professional relationship with their staff. It is to be shared with as wide an audience as possible; they (and you) are susceptible to being duped by terrible websites who might part users from their money.

Based on our user profiles, we're both healthy eaters. Let's make sure other Wiki contributors and surfers have a proper diet of nutritous websites. :) BrainDoc 20:44, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

I'll replace the removed link. Let me know what you think. Thanks.  :) BrainDoc 13:42, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

stormfront

I agree with you about censorship - I despise it as well. However, when you're faced with a choice between gross disinformation and no information, maybe no information is better sometimes.

I don't believe that the site can ever be a useful site. You can see that they don't have a problem with recruiting as many other people as they need. I had to hold them off pretty much alone until today. The thing is, most non-Stormfront people just don't know or care about it so they'll never get involved in the site. That means that the rare person who DOES look for it on wiki is going to get nothing but fact selection and disinformation.

As for a semi-protected article - I just don't know how that would work. Who would write it, and how would decisions be made? These guys were entirely unwilling to compromise with me.

Anyway, thanks for the input. Stick to the Facts 05:54, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Churches

Stanley Gallon AfD

Excellent work on managing the mess! I'm slightly in awe of how you picked through all the edits to make sense of it. My hat, also, is off to you. OBM | 08:45, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: IPA (Dorothea Lange)

You misunderstood. It's fine to have multiple pronunciations guides present, but they should all say the same thing. If the IPA version is correct, your version gave the wrong pronunciation. Spreading misinformation is far worse than having information that's allegedly harder to digest, but has the benefit of being precise. --MarkSweep (call me collect) 06:39, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

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- Richfife 18:16, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Would you mediate?

A long dispute at really needs mediation by a reasonable third voice, formally or not. Nobody has responded at RfC. Would you help? Hele 7 19:16, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Really big thanks for fast and efficient termination of this long and dirty war. Hele 7 08:56, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Linda Christas

Because it came and went so quickly (and because I somehow don't think Misplaced Pages has seen the end of this particular phenomenon), I wanted to make sure you'd seen this, putatively from LCCF's former chair. Given your first-rate factchecking, I thought it would likely be of interest. The whole thing is just...odd. Robertissimo 14:09, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Mediation

Hi, I have sent you and the other members involved in the dispute at Ascended master an email using Special:Emailuser/Richfife. Once everyone has responded, mediation will begin by email. --PinchasC | £€åV€ m€ å m€§§åg€ 23:14, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

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Nobody did the cleanup at Ascended master. The article contains many links to blatant religious propaganda from the same source, sect-specific language with excessive capitalisation etc. Aburesz always removed all critical links, NPOV and cleanup tags and similar from the article. So I tagged the article as a fansite. Aburesz deleted the tag (repeatedly) and has obtained protection of the page in its present state. As a result, the article has been protected in strongly unbalanced state and nobody can improve it. Please help to resolve the situation. Hele 7 19:10, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Ostrovsky

I just made a further cut , in the spirit of your excellent editing, and Marcmcp has reverted both mine and yours,. I have warned him about the 3RR, but you might like to have a look. DGG 04:41, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Chris Dotson Inc.

I have just contacted 3 wiki administrators about your Defamation of Character issues. Thank You 3mgworld 23:55, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Cruel?

Dude, do you have a discussion, diff or reference for that rule of thumb? That's the best rationale ever if there's a policy to back it up. Pardon my gushing.

Several RfC questions - have you done several? I tried to do the 'pay it forward' thing with the RfC but the ones I looked into (maybe 5) appear to be an awful mess. I wouldn't mind doing more RfC, but not if I'm stuck spending an hour trying to figure out if it needs it, or it's been archived. If the RfC has been met, should I remove it? One in particular was archived, but still on the RfC page.

WLU 20:21, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm... I could have sworn I read it somewhere, and it IS an understandable distillation of WP:WEB, but I can't find where I saw it exactly. I'll check around. I've done a handful of RFC's, but not that many. This one kind of raised my hackles because of a run in I had with Marc Ostrofsky, who's the king of that kind of webpage. - Richfife 01:05, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

If you turn it up, I would be most obliged if you could drop me the link on my talk page.

Thanks! WLU 20:22, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Oh well, looking at Chunky Rice's comments, he's got a point about it being hugely subjective. What I'm happiest to see is that there is uniformity across editors that the site is inappropriate. Thanks for your input. WLU 17:19, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Gun fu

hi, you mentioned not putting quotes around the term "gun fu" - what about renaming the article then, as the term itself is a neologism? cheers. 86.27.73.208 16:51, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

I added to the discussion. I'm in favor of renaming, I'm just not sure what to rename it to. - Richfife 17:37, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Mr. Bennet... I mean, Noah Bennet... no, wait, Noah... umm... who were we talking about?

No problem... that page has changed back-and-forth so many times I'm surprised the whole Wiki isn't dizzy. Perhaps move protection might be in order until this can be resolved. Thoughts? --Ckatzspy 18:13, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Linda Christas - Recrudescence

You'd think I'd have something better to do with my time (and I do, but that's another matter), but I've been checking now and again for the inevitable return to these parts of LindaChristiana, and I think it has started, viz Student-First_Accreditation, which is linked from their homepage and has been principally edited by usernames identical to the putative dean of the school and a writer who has bylined some recent columns on the subject that have managed to appear on line. One oddity: the name of the dean seems to be morphing; formerly Ronald F. Bernard, he has now appeared in one column as "Rodney Bernard" (can't find that citation online right now) and "Frank Bernard". Given that this "concept" is a wholly LC-originated one (and almost definitively non-notable), what to do? Robertissimo 07:43, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

I was wondering what those guys were up to. Looks like they're taking their show on the road and sending out fake "opinion pieces" to gullible small newspapers. Oy. Buckle up. - Richfife 14:49, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

SimpList Delete

So you need to be either a publisher, a well know writer of some description? 121.44.212.213 11:36, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Heroes of Azerbaijan

An article like that could only be OR and POV. See the Babak dispute for example. You should put it up for deletion (since you are third party). I was thinking that I might do it but I decided not to for now. But a "heroes" list of any kind can only be POV and OR.Azerbaijani 13:33, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Dacy himself admits that the article about POV rather than facts: "We are not speaking about historical fact rather than perception" (I quoted Dacy himself) By the way, he also reinserted the historical figures...Azerbaijani 20:46, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
He is distorting meaning of my words and don't quote the whole passage. See discussion on talkpage.--Dacy69 21:24, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
Here is the entire passage:
We are not speaking about historical fact rather than perception. This page is not about historical facts, it is about national heroes of Azerbaijan honoured in Azerbaijan as such. Assumption might be based on myths, narratives, traditions, and finally some kind of official blessing.
Would you like to tell me how I'm distorting the meaning of your words?Azerbaijani 21:34, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
That should looks like this We are not speaking about historical fact rather than perception. This page is not about historical facts, it is about national heroes of Azerbaijan honoured in Azerbaijan as such. Assumption might be based on myths, narratives, traditions, and finally some kind of official blessing
I think people with medium level of intelligence understand what I am talking about when we speak about historical myths, perceptions, traditions. Like Russian believe that legendary Igor was their national hero, though he might been even Scandinavian, non-Russian. Romul and Rem might be - or not - founders of Rome. This is legend, myth, perception. But this people are honoured in Italy or Russia as founders or heroes respectively. The same with Babek whoever he was. We have created the page about heroes honoured in Azerbaijan. --Dacy69 21:49, 30 May 2007 (UTC)