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{{User|Atabek}} has continuously attacked me by making false accusations, personal attacks, and canvassing to tarnish my image on Misplaced Pages. He has attempted to divide Misplaced Pages along ethnic lines, made inappropriate comments, and engaged in POV and OR. | |||
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Atabek was previously involved in an arbcom in which he was close to being blocked for a period of one year, but was not due to lack of evidence. I will show diff's of Atabek's disruptive behavior since the arbcom, and in accordance with those diff's, the reasonable remedy would be for proposed arbcom decision to be carried out. | |||
You can find the proposed block . | |||
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] has recently initiated a ] campaign against me. He has made false accusations, personal attacks, and has even canvassed in order to find an administrator sympathetic to him. He frequently misuses and abuses Misplaced Pages's rules and policies, and often tries to distort them to fit his situation. He is rude on talk pages, doesnt read other users posts, and is not willingness to show an ounce of respect for other users. In just the past few days, he has gone to four different administrators (canvassing), made countless false accusations, and several personal attacks. I am afraid that his canvassing has already given me a bad image in the eyes of several administrators. Note that in the real world, what Atabek did is a serious offense and could have ended up with a lawsuit, so I do not want users reading this taking this lightly. | |||
Furthermore, Atabek has attempted to split Misplaced Pages up along ethnic lines, telling users what they should and should not edit based on ethnicity. He has also engaged in POV and OR discussion (on talk pages) and editing. | |||
It should also be noted that ] (along with several other users and I) was involved in another arbcom, in which he was close to being blocked for a period of one year from editing Misplaced Pages. In the following sections, I will proceed to show diff's showing this users disruptive behavior on Misplaced Pages. | |||
=== Evidence of disputed behavior === | === Evidence of disputed behavior === | ||
====Canvassing==== | |||
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First it should be noted that Atabek went on a canvassing spree and made the same false accusations on several administrator talk pages: | |||
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*Many of the false accusations can be viewed on ]'s talk page, the link is posted above. The following quotes are all by ], I have not altered them in any way, shape or form, and come from ]'s talk page unless stated otherwise. Some of these false accusations include (I will also post the comments): | |||
#Vandalism: ''"I am writing this to complain about User:Hajji Piruz (formerly User:Azerbaijani), who has recently vandalized my user page"'' | |||
#Supporting a banned user: ''"User:Azerbaijani also supported anon IP sockpuppets of the banned User:Tajik"'' | |||
#POV pushing: "''This user is only involved in pages related to Azerbaijan, and on all of them POV pushing and wasting contributor's time with unscholarly edits.''" | |||
#Attacking users: ''"If he is unable to deal with content issues on various pages, he should request assistance of arbitration or dispute resolution, instead of attacking users.''" --- ''"It's part of his larger scale attack upon myself and several other users on practically all talk pages."'' | |||
#Personal attacks: ''"So you're the one to apologize here for vandalizing my page and actually attacking me personally."'' | |||
#Blackmail: ''"You're the one attacking, blackmailing, and harassing me, I have no interest in communicating with you outside content discussions."'' | |||
#Intimidation: ''"...is nothing more than intimidation and harassment of personality."'' and on (''"...obviously intimidating me...''") | |||
#Edit warring and spoiling consensus version of articles: (''"The anon IP edits are often endorsed only by User:Hajji Piruz (formerly User:Azerbaijani), who is engaged in heavy edit warring after ArbCom on several pages and tries hard to spoil consensus version."'') and on (''"These provocations of User:Hajji Piruz, a.k.a. User:Azerbaijani, have to be stopped. It took us so long to achieve consensus at Safavid dynasty, many of us ended up in ArbCom because of it, and finally had stable version for the past month or so."'') | |||
#Use of meat and sock puppets: (''"I don't have physical evidence, but based on behavior and support of User:Hajji Piruz, formerly User:Azerbaijani, he is obviously meatpuppeting/coordinating with these groups."'') | |||
#No useful contributions to Misplaced Pages: (''"To be frank, dealing with this user is a waste of time for me, he is only after hunting and blackmailing certain users rather than contributing anything useful to the articles."'') | |||
*Now notice how he denies all of this later on: ''"I didn't make accusations against Hajji Piruz"'' and ''"So why don't you, please, ask Hajji Piruz to first read these before he tries to intimidate me on my user page, and before him further accusing me of attacking him"'' | |||
Now I will proceed to comment on and disprove some of his allegations (the rest are completely unfounded): | |||
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Statement of the dispute
Atabek (talk · contribs) has continuously attacked me by making false accusations, personal attacks, and canvassing to tarnish my image on Misplaced Pages. He has attempted to divide Misplaced Pages along ethnic lines, made inappropriate comments, and engaged in POV and OR.
Desired outcome
Atabek was previously involved in an arbcom in which he was close to being blocked for a period of one year, but was not due to lack of evidence. I will show diff's of Atabek's disruptive behavior since the arbcom, and in accordance with those diff's, the reasonable remedy would be for proposed arbcom decision to be carried out.
You can find the proposed block here.
Description
User:Atabek has recently initiated a defamation campaign against me. He has made false accusations, personal attacks, and has even canvassed in order to find an administrator sympathetic to him. He frequently misuses and abuses Misplaced Pages's rules and policies, and often tries to distort them to fit his situation. He is rude on talk pages, doesnt read other users posts, and is not willingness to show an ounce of respect for other users. In just the past few days, he has gone to four different administrators (canvassing), made countless false accusations, and several personal attacks. I am afraid that his canvassing has already given me a bad image in the eyes of several administrators. Note that in the real world, what Atabek did is a serious offense and could have ended up with a lawsuit, so I do not want users reading this taking this lightly.
Furthermore, Atabek has attempted to split Misplaced Pages up along ethnic lines, telling users what they should and should not edit based on ethnicity. He has also engaged in POV and OR discussion (on talk pages) and editing.
It should also be noted that User:Atabek (along with several other users and I) was involved in another arbcom, in which he was close to being blocked for a period of one year from editing Misplaced Pages. In the following sections, I will proceed to show diff's showing this users disruptive behavior on Misplaced Pages.
Evidence of disputed behavior
Canvassing
First it should be noted that Atabek went on a canvassing spree and made the same false accusations on several administrator talk pages:
False accusations
- Many of the false accusations can be viewed on User:Tariqabjotu's talk page, the link is posted above. The following quotes are all by User:Atabek, I have not altered them in any way, shape or form, and come from User:Tariqabjotu's talk page unless stated otherwise. Some of these false accusations include (I will also post the comments):
- Vandalism: "I am writing this to complain about User:Hajji Piruz (formerly User:Azerbaijani), who has recently vandalized my user page"
- Supporting a banned user: "User:Azerbaijani also supported anon IP sockpuppets of the banned User:Tajik"
- POV pushing: "This user is only involved in pages related to Azerbaijan, and on all of them POV pushing and wasting contributor's time with unscholarly edits."
- Attacking users: "If he is unable to deal with content issues on various pages, he should request assistance of arbitration or dispute resolution, instead of attacking users." --- "It's part of his larger scale attack upon myself and several other users on practically all talk pages."
- Personal attacks: "So you're the one to apologize here for vandalizing my page and actually attacking me personally."
- Blackmail: "You're the one attacking, blackmailing, and harassing me, I have no interest in communicating with you outside content discussions."
- Intimidation: "...is nothing more than intimidation and harassment of personality." and on User:Bobak's talk page ("...obviously intimidating me...")
- Edit warring and spoiling consensus version of articles: on User:Thatcher131's talk page ("The anon IP edits are often endorsed only by User:Hajji Piruz (formerly User:Azerbaijani), who is engaged in heavy edit warring after ArbCom on several pages and tries hard to spoil consensus version.") and on User:Dmcdevit's talk page ("These provocations of User:Hajji Piruz, a.k.a. User:Azerbaijani, have to be stopped. It took us so long to achieve consensus at Safavid dynasty, many of us ended up in ArbCom because of it, and finally had stable version for the past month or so.")
- Use of meat and sock puppets: on User:Dmcdevit's talk page ("I don't have physical evidence, but based on behavior and support of User:Hajji Piruz, formerly User:Azerbaijani, he is obviously meatpuppeting/coordinating with these groups.")
- No useful contributions to Misplaced Pages: on User:Bobak's talk page ("To be frank, dealing with this user is a waste of time for me, he is only after hunting and blackmailing certain users rather than contributing anything useful to the articles.")
- Now notice how he denies all of this later on: "I didn't make accusations against Hajji Piruz" and "So why don't you, please, ask Hajji Piruz to first read these before he tries to intimidate me on my user page, and before him further accusing me of attacking him"
Now I will proceed to comment on and disprove some of his allegations (the rest are completely unfounded):
Applicable policies and guidelines
{list the policies and guidelines that apply to the disputed conduct}
Evidence of trying and failing to resolve the dispute
(provide diffs and links)
Users certifying the basis for this dispute
{Users who tried and failed to resolve the dispute}
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