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Page move

The page was moved before without consensus as well. I was moving it back. Enfestid 04:46, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Please see the additional note I left on your talk page. Naconkantari 04:47, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Kelly Moore (non-fiction writer)

Hey. You deleted this page as "biography" with "no assertion of significance," and yet Misplaced Pages has a full section of American true crime authors. (Not to mention countless biographies of un-notable performers and the like.) The article you have deleted THREE times before I had FINISHED "asserting" significance and giving sources, etc. gives information on a best-selling author that you have yet to include on that list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Faliahdahn (talk • contribs) 20:34, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Ceph

Hi, you deleted the Ceph two times as blatant advertising. Before that I deleted it once as a copyvio. The versions you deleted are copyvio free btw. User:JerkerNyberg seems to be acting in good faith and is wondering what to do. See here and here. I don't know much (basically nothing) about the subject so could you perhaps give hime some hints? Garion96 (talk) 19:53, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Didar Singh Bains

Please consider undeleting Didar Singh Bains. You deleted this under WP:CSD#A7 (No claim of significance or importance). It seems to me that such satemetns in the article as "one of the richest Sikh farmers in North America" "a leading figure in the Sikh community for the last 20 years". "president of the World Sikh organization" and "founder chairman of the World Kabbadi federation" do constitute an assertion of significance. Obviously better sroucing would be needed for this to survive an AfD, but I think these claims ought to be enough to avoid an A7 speedy. DES 23:46, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Didar Singh Bains. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review.

User:What love has made of me

Perhaps I'm missing something, but what's so bad about this username? – Luna Santin (talk) 01:33, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Username was blocked for excessive length. Naconkantari 01:34, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

That seems rather draconian... – Luna Santin (talk) 01:37, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Referred to the admin noticeboard. – Luna Santin (talk) 01:52, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi Naconkantari, I've unblocked after this has percolated on AN for a bit. Hope it's okay with you, let me know if it's not. Thanks -- Samir 02:43, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of Velvet D'Amour

I'm wondering why you deleted the article a mere 5 mintues after it was written?? I was still in the process of citing references and linking images. If there is some issue with adding models and actresses who are listed in countless media and the IMDB.com, then please send me that Wiki Page so I know the protocal. There are countless others with less merit who still exist on the Wiki. As it stands, the article would prob survive an AfD if discussed by people who actually know about the topic. Should be reinstated for that discussion, at least. AntiVanity 01:42, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Please see WP:DRV. Naconkantari 01:43, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Velvet D'Amour. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review.

Multi-link trunking Page revert???

Never talked with anyone before so it took me a bit to get here....

Why did you revert when I was making edits?

Deleted of protected

Deleted of protected

I'm new to making pages and i didnt know there was a limit on the save page, I was just playing around figuring out how to make it all work. ArtManiac

Deletion of Spyware terminator

I just rewrote that article and I dont think that in any way, shape, or form does it represent advertising. I agree that the previous version at Spyware terminator was something like an advertisement, but this page was brand new and was meant to address that problem. The page mimiced the layout of the Ad-Aware page, and similar information is shown on that page (release date, download.com downloads, release information, basic features, etc.). It also mimics the Spysweeper, Spybot and Windows Defender pages, which still exist and dont seem to have near as much problems as the Spyware terminator page. By deleting Spyware Terminator and letting those other pages live you are holding it to some unknown double standard. Cableguytk 03:51, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Please see WP:DRV. Naconkantari 03:51, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Im there...what am I looking for, please? Cableguytk 03:53, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

How to request a review of a deletion. Naconkantari 03:53, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

This isnt a request for deletion. This is a request for a new article not to be deleted. Cableguytk 03:57, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Spyware_terminator. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Cableguytk 04:22, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Deletion review of Kelly Moore (non-fiction writer)

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Kelly Moore (non-fiction writer). Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. DES 04:42, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of Kim Amidon

Please consider undelteting Kim Amidon. You deleted this under WP:CSD#A7 (No assertion of significance or importance). I think that the text "She and Wallengren both received together a "star" on the Hollywood Walk of Fame for their work on the radio." in the article constitutes an assertion of significence sufficent that it should not be deleted via A7. Whether it would/will survive an AfD is of course another matter. DES 05:26, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Kim Amidon. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. DES 06:08, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of Liam Hunt

You deleted this under WP:CSD#G1 (Patent nonsense). It is clearly not patent nonsense -- i have no trouble understanding what the article says and means. (Note that PN is limited to content that "is so completely and irredeemably confused that no reasonable person can be expected to make any sense of it whatsoever.") Liam Hunt is an article about a fictional character. The character might be non-notable, and too much of the article is written in an in-universe style, and there is too little real-world context. Those are all things that could be fixed, or if judged non-fixable, might lead to deletion at an AfD. Bit none of them, IMO, is a good reason for a speedy deletion. Please consider undeleting this article, and, if you think it should be deleted, tagging it for prod or afd, so that other editors have a chance to improve the article and debate its deletion. DES 05:41, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Liam Hunt. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. DES 06:08, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of X-sample

Please consider undeleting X-sample. You deleted this with the comment "CSD A7: Article about subject that does not assert significance (emphasis added). Now of course A7 does not extend to "subjects" in general, and this is an article about a pseudonym. Furthermore, even if A7 extended to such articles, the assertion that this pseudonym was used by the very notable Eric Clapton is IMO at least a claim of notability. Now at an AfD, this might well be merged into Eric Clapton, or perhaps even deleted. Or it might be kept and improved. I suppose it might even be a hoax. But I don't think it should be speedy deleted for lack of notability. DES 06:06, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

An editor has asked for a deletion review of X-sample. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. DES 06:08, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

explanation please, I dont get it

you deleted a few pages I did on zoids. That's fine, but I'd like another explanation than "patent nonsense", cuz the pages were blank before, you could at least have left the pictures, how can THEY be "patent nonsense"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sophy Angel (talk • contribs) 07:20, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Enron Scandal/Enron scandal

I didn't make any cut and paste move. I've been trying to remedy what appears to have been a cut-and-paste move by User:Pablosecca. Check the edit histories a bit more carefully. — Swpb 02:45, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

I have moved the page to (hopefully) the correct place. Naconkantari 02:48, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Indeed - how were you able to move it to Enron scandal? When I tried I got a warning that there was already an article there, even though I had redirected that page to Enron Scandal, just as you did. Huh? — Swpb

I deleted the page that was already there and restored it into the history. Naconkantari 02:52, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Of course, admin powers. — Swpb 02:55, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of Ron May

Please do not delete the Ron May article again. I was in the middle of asserting the columnist's significance. I contested the nomination for speedy deletion and was only given a few minutes before the page was deleted. That is an unacceptable amount of time for me to fill in the details. Thank you.

Please gather the details before recreating the article, or it will be deleted again. Naconkantari 02:57, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of GoLite

I was wondering why the article was deleted despite putting {{hangon}} on it, and before I had a chance to explain its inclusion..?? Lucien Dray 03:25, 26 June 2007 (UTC) Lucien

The template clearly states "Note that this request is not binding, and the page may still be deleted if the page unquestionably meets the speedy deletion criteria". The page met the criteria for deletion. Naconkantari 03:29, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification. What I don't understand, and what I intended to discuss on the Talk page before the article was deleted, is why others felt that the article met the requirements for speedy deletion, and why said shortcomings warranted a full deletion rather than cleanup. The company in question, GoLite, is of similar size to other similar companies that have articles, such as CamelBak and Kelty, and is mentioned in other Misplaced Pages articles, such as the article on Hydration packs, the article on rock climber Ray Jardine, and Primal Quest.

After deletion, I condensed the page into a single paragraph, trying to keep it absolutely factual and neutral, and marked it as a stub for expansion, but you deleted that version as well. The text of that version was:

GoLite is an outdoor equipment and clothing manufacturer based in Boulder, Colorado. It was founded in 1998 by Kim and Demetri “Coup” Coupounas. GoLite designs and manufactures high-end light and ultra-light clothing, footwear, backpacks, tents, sleeping bags, hydration packs, and accessories. GoLite products are used for backpacking, hiking, adventure racing, trail running, mountaineering, snowshoeing, cross-country skiing, and alpinism.

First, can you explain how this version can be construed as an advertisement, and second, what changes would you propose to it for it to not meet the criteria for speedy deletion? Lucien Dray 03:44, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

An editor has asked for a deletion review of GoLite. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Lucien Dray 01:10, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

WikiAir deleted

Why did you delete the article I posted regarding WikiAir without even visiting the site? It is a significant site that is important to a lot of people. I guess you should delete WikiTravel also then.

Please see WP:COI, WP:N and WP:WEB Naconkantari 05:46, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

It is true that I am involved with, and contribute to WikiAir. But I don't fall into any of the below guidelines. WikiAir is a non-commercial website, non-profit, and free for all.

Conflict of interest often presents itself in the form of self-promotion, including advertising links, personal website links, personal or semi-personal photos, or other material that appears to promote the private or commercial interests of the editor, or their associates.

Examples of these types of material include:

  1. Links that appear to promote products by pointing to obscure or not particularly relevant commercial sites (commercial links).
  2. Links that appear to promote otherwise obscure individuals by pointing to their personal pages.
  3. Biographical material that does not significantly add to the clarity or quality of the article.

La Quinta High School Policy debate deleted

This article is notable because it describes the national champion team of the US Policy debate circuit. Any High School national sport competition would be recognized, so should a speech event. Aspen123 05:59, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Why not just include it in their school's article? Naconkantari 06:01, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Huh?

Can you please tell me why G7 doesn't apply for Rachel Epperly? I am trying to speed up the process of deletion of these articles to reduce the pain felt by myself so I just want it over and done with! PageantUpdater 06:10, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

G7 only applies when you are the only editor to the page. If there are other editors, the page can not be speedily deleted with this reason. Naconkantari 06:11, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

But the template says that it applies provided the page's only substantial content was added by its author. If you look through the history the other editors have all made minor edits such as adding categories. Here is the link between the comparison of my initial article and the rest . As I said earlier, the page will be deleted eventually so why not get it over and done with? PageantUpdater 06:28, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

The Lying Game

An editor has asked for a deletion review of The Lying Game. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. You deleted this as patent nonsense which it simply was not. Please consider reverting your close of the related AfD. DES 06:27, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of Wishtank

Why did you delete this page as if it were "blatant advertising?" This makes very little sense considering it was three sentences long, one giving the title and web location of the magazine, a second stating when the publication was born and a third naming the two parties who founded the publication. I feel like a disservice to the wikipedia community has been made here and ask that it is corrected.

An editor has asked for a deletion review of wishtank. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Garrettheaney 07:42, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of article Abhash Kumar

Please refer to the article written by me on Abhash Kumar today on June 26, 07. I referred to some of the very important contributions made by Mr Abhash Kumar and articles contributed by him in various prestigious journals with publication details . I have restricted myself to only those details which I could verify .It seems , you have deleted an earlier article by the same name and it is put under 'Protected List to Prevent Recreation' . This is unfair . Let others contribute with verifiable details. I therefore request that the present article may be allowed on the Misplaced Pages Page. Thanks Stephen Devaraj 21:10 June 26,2007(UTC)

Re: User:PeterLaws

Hi there, I saw your final warning on User talk:PeterLaws as I was adding another db-spam on Rwanda coffeepals (lowercase 'c' this time, apparently). I dunno what other contribs prompted the finalwarn, so I figured I'd give you the heads up and just let you take care of any blocks or whatever. Cheers. :) --slakr 08:33, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Northwest Arkansas Mall

Hello. I thought I'd let you know that Northwest Arkansas Mall has previously survived prod. You might try AfD instead. NickelShoe (Talk) 15:03, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Resolving disputes

In accordance with the "First Step" of the Misplaced Pages dispute resolution policy, I left a message on your "Talk" page questioning the removal of a page that I contributed to.

I would consider it courteous and respectful if you acknowledged my question. You may leave your response on my talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stevethefiddle (talk • contribs) 10:40, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

A request

Could you please endeavor to be more careful in your deletions? I'm already wary of your actions considering your mass image deletions that more than one of us has had to spend hours cleaning up without any help from you. Then I discover that you don't actually remove the image links from the articles, which is plain sloppy and inconsiderate. Now you come back and start blowing through deletions again with what appears to be a high error rate: misleading and wrong citations of WP:SPEEDY, etc.

PLEASE exercise some consideration for the people downstream that have to clean up after you. --Spike Wilbury ♫ talk 16:00, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Deletion and communication issues

It seems to me that you have been doing a lot of speedy deletions that do not conform to WP:CSD, and IMO are not good for wikipedia, as well as a number where the page probably should be deleted, but your delete log entry is misleading or incorrect. it also seems to me that when users have been asking you about these deletions, you have either responded simply "take it to DRV" or not responded at all, and that when these deletions have in fact been raised on DRV, you have chosen not to comment. It can be rather frustrating to have the deleting admin fail to respond when a deletion is questioned. This is true even for experienced editors, particularly since the DRV instructions mandate discussing matters with the deleting admin first. For relative newcomers, who don't understand what DRV is for or how to use it, or why the pages they created were deleted (in some cases perfectly properly) this can be very frustrating indeed, and i urge you to be more communicative in such cases. I also urge you to be more careful when doing speedy deletes, both as to the reason you log, and as to whether a particular page actually fits any of the WP:CSD, and particularly whether it fits the one you cite in the delete log entry. It is my view, which i think is widely shared, that the speedy delete criteria are fairly specific, and should be interpreted narrowly and strictly -- if something isn't clearly included it is better to use prod or AfD instead. Would you please discuss this issue with me? DES 16:08, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Do you plan to respond to these issues at all? DES 01:34, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

I am going to continue deleting pages that fail the CSD criteria. If you have some problem with that, I don't know what continuing to badger me is going to accomplish. It's clear that we have different interpretations of what material falls under CSD, however, you should assume good faith and see that I am only working to improve the encyclopedia instead of trying to intentionally damage it. Naconkantari 01:40, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of Plahay/Palahi

You deleted Plahay/Palahi as Patent nonsense It looks to me like an article about a town in India, written by someone whose first language was not English. It could use cleanup and sourcing, but i don't think it is nonsense, nor that speedy deletion is the proper tool in this case. Please consider undeleting this article, or discussing the matter. DES 21:30, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Pardon the butting in, but with no useful content, what would be the point undeleting it? If someone can write non-gibberish on this topic, there's nothing to prevent it. Friday (talk) 21:33, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

While it is not as well written as it might be, i didn't think there was "no useful content" in the article as it was at deletion. there is enough of a basis to make creating a reasonable article significantly easier, IMO. DES 21:46, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Such as Palahi? Friday (talk) 21:50, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Gayla Earlene article

I would like to know as to why you deleted the article for Gayla Earlene without giving me the opportunity to write the article and cite sources? I think that is very rude of you and not to mention I do not see anywhere on your page where it refers to you as an entertainment expert. Please explain yourself! Junebug52 22:09, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Please gather the sources before creating an article. Naconkantari 22:10, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

I believe that had you took some time out from your rampant deletions you would have seen that I placed and {{expand}} tag on and was getting ready to write the article. I am going to re introduce the article and I would appreciate you not deleting anything without a conversation about it first. That is why they have talk pages on these things. Junebug52 22:15, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

I saw the tag. An article that does not include an assertion of notability is grounds for deletion. Simply stating "Gayla Earlene is a Christian country music artist that is based out of Inola, OK" does not say how the subject is notable. You are free to recreate the article with information on how she is notable. Naconkantari 22:18, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Again, you did not give time to assert a ground for notabilty. That article was on there for less than 2 minutes before you deleted it. If that be the case then you must stay on here all day just deleting articles! I beleive all articles strat with non nobility and build to that status. I really do not feel the need to argue this issue. Again, please refrain from deleting my article. If you feel the need, put it on the talk page. Junebug52 22:21, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

I will continue deleting articles that do not have an assertion of notability. Please create the article with this information included, or it will be removed, again. Naconkantari 22:23, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

For reverting blanking of my user page recently. --John 22:32, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

AN/I

I have reported you to AN/I for discussion of your administrative actions since you refuse to discuss them. --Spike Wilbury ♫ talk 22:40, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Jazzsteppa

Dear Nacon, The group Jazzsteppa is of very high importance in the context of the emerging Dubstep scene in London. The group are signed to a record Label and are releasing material..

Please Let me write a page for them.. Gal

Please see WP:N. Naconkantari 22:44, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

www.myspace.com/jazzsteppa

The group are of huge importance to the evolving scene of dubstep (http://en.wikipedia.org/Dubstep)

Please read about it before you delete..

Talk:Furniture Today

You deleted Talk:Furniture Today, giving as your reason "(CSD G9: Office Actions)". However, i do not see you listed as a n WP:OFFICE volunteere or staff member, not do i see a tag or note from any such staff member in the history. Was this an error? or did i miss something?