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Revision as of 05:48, 30 June 2007
- The following discussion is an archived debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. The result of the discussion was
Speedily Approved.
WOPR
Operator: White Cat
Automatic or Manually Assisted: Supervised & automatic. I will review the former category and new one (as well as the change in RC feed) but probably wont review every individual diff.
Programming Language(s): AWB
Function Summary: Rectaegorization (based on discussions on medians such as WP:CFD)
Edit period(s) (e.g. Continuous, daily, one time run): Assisted but automated runs. I will manually input the task (recategorization) and monitor. Each task is to be run only once.
Edit rate requested: 500 edits per hour (really depends on the task)
Already has a bot flag (Y/N): N
Function Details: Find and replace task. Usage of "Category:X"'s will be replaced with "Category:Y"'s based on consensus
Discussion
Um, I'm not entirely clear on what you intend to monitor the RC feed for and, also if you don't mind, could you please explain what you mean by 'based on discussions on medians such as WP:CFD'? -- Seed 2.0 18:22, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
- Say a CFD discussion concludes as a "rename category", the bot would do just that. Or if the discussion concluded with a "delete", the bot would remove the categories. I can use the same function for TFDs - basically any deletion/discussion that may require such a service. The bot would run based on community consensus only.
- I will be monitoring the RC feed to check on the bot. I wouldn't be using the bot to monitor RC feed. I monitor the RC feed to check for possible problems. If for instance the bot removes 200 bytes, thats proof of a breakdown (happens rarely with AWB I believe. I should see the same byte difference during the run of all bot edits. Its just me being extra careful.
- -- Cat 19:04, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
I'd just like to clarify, since category deletion wasn't mentioned previously. I assume, since you don't have the sysop bit, that if consensus is to "delete" that your bot will only be removing the category from all pages in the article namespace? What other namespaces may be modified? — Madman bum and angel (talk – desk) 17:30, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
- All namespaces could be modified, most likely, main, template, and user. --ST47Talk 18:13, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
- The bot can handle any namespace except mediawiki namespace. -- Cat 18:16, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
- WhiteCat, I presume this bot is to be tasked with WP:CFD/W work. You might want to check and see if the bot is even needed, there are quite a few that do this task. In addition user cats tend to be a bit hard for bots to actually do, as some of them are hidden behind noinclude tags in included templates. This makes the category show up on every page that the template is on (say a userbox), but not place the userbox itself into the category, which effectively makes finding the userbox difficult. I have written a tool that does a bit of recursion to identify the userbox, unfortunatly its windows only, so if this is an important task, please let me know and I'll write up a diddy that can be run on linux. I have run this style bot task before. —— Eagle101 00:34, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
- Oh I use windows. I use AWB's find and replace function to re-categorize. It works fine IMHO. I can handle it :) -- Cat 00:22, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
- Well, I hope you don't mind or take this the wrong way but since that's a bit unconventional (I assume you write your own regexps to handle pipes, etc.), I just have to ask: what experience do you have working with categories? --S 00:30, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
- I used AWB to recategorise speedy entries under this account. I do not use regexps (not a whole lot of experience with it) but instead the normal button for "find and replace". Replacing [[Category:Foooo1 with [[Category:Foooo2 is rather trivial for me. It works fine. I monitor every edit the bot makes just in case something doesn't work right. -- Cat 00:35, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
- What about links to the category, e.g. Category:WikiProject banners? I'd suggest adding a :? in there. — Madman bum and angel (talk – desk) 17:04, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- There are those specific exceptions where the code would need to be adjusted. This will be done when necesary :) -- Cat 17:06, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- Why not just add a :? instead? A link to a category can be easy for you to miss. — Madman bum and angel (talk – desk) 17:33, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- What links to a category and the pages categorised are threated differently in AWB. Thats why :) -- Cat 17:58, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- Why not just add a :? instead? A link to a category can be easy for you to miss. — Madman bum and angel (talk – desk) 17:33, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- There are those specific exceptions where the code would need to be adjusted. This will be done when necesary :) -- Cat 17:06, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- What about links to the category, e.g. Category:WikiProject banners? I'd suggest adding a :? in there. — Madman bum and angel (talk – desk) 17:04, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- I used AWB to recategorise speedy entries under this account. I do not use regexps (not a whole lot of experience with it) but instead the normal button for "find and replace". Replacing [[Category:Foooo1 with [[Category:Foooo2 is rather trivial for me. It works fine. I monitor every edit the bot makes just in case something doesn't work right. -- Cat 00:35, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
- Well, I hope you don't mind or take this the wrong way but since that's a bit unconventional (I assume you write your own regexps to handle pipes, etc.), I just have to ask: what experience do you have working with categories? --S 00:30, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
- Oh I use windows. I use AWB's find and replace function to re-categorize. It works fine IMHO. I can handle it :) -- Cat 00:22, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
- WhiteCat, I presume this bot is to be tasked with WP:CFD/W work. You might want to check and see if the bot is even needed, there are quite a few that do this task. In addition user cats tend to be a bit hard for bots to actually do, as some of them are hidden behind noinclude tags in included templates. This makes the category show up on every page that the template is on (say a userbox), but not place the userbox itself into the category, which effectively makes finding the userbox difficult. I have written a tool that does a bit of recursion to identify the userbox, unfortunatly its windows only, so if this is an important task, please let me know and I'll write up a diddy that can be run on linux. I have run this style bot task before. —— Eagle101 00:34, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
- The bot can handle any namespace except mediawiki namespace. -- Cat 18:16, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
- All namespaces could be modified, most likely, main, template, and user. --ST47Talk 18:13, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
Speedily Approved. This is already done by a bunch of bots and uses AWB which makes almost no mistakes. —METS501 (talk) 05:48, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.