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:(reduce indent) This user has made some ] remarks in the past (example ). His article is currently under ], and he needs help editing with the article so that the article will survive deletion. In my opinion, this is a ] related help. '''<font face="georgia">]</font>''' 02:21, 2 July 2007 (UTC) | :(reduce indent) This user has made some ] remarks in the past (example ). His article is currently under ], and he needs help editing with the article so that the article will survive deletion. In my opinion, this is a ] related help. '''<font face="georgia">]</font>''' 02:21, 2 July 2007 (UTC) | ||
::One of the accusations in the voting debate for deleting was poor language, and Miranda says -don't edit the article for deleting. So, Miranda continues disruptive personal attack against me - the author of category ] articles.] 09:50, 2 July 2007 (UTC) | ::One of the accusations in the voting debate for deleting was poor language, and Miranda says -don't edit the article for deleting. So, Miranda continues disruptive personal attack against me - the author of category ] articles.] 09:50, 2 July 2007 (UTC) | ||
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June 26
No images on Misplaced Pages?
Hello, I recently installed Vista, everything was going fine for a few days and suddently, out of the blue, IE can not load any page on Misplaced Pages. So i shut down IE, reload and scince then no images will appear on Wiki. Any Suggestions? KoalaMeatPie 00:49, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- Not a clue. It's worth asking at Misplaced Pages:Reference desk/Computing to see if anyone knows about bugs in Vista. Shalom 04:08, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- Perhaps images are disabled in IE? (Assuming you're using IE 7 because you said that you installed Vista:) Go to Tools → Internet Options. Then click on the "Advanced" tab. About half way down or so should be a "Show pictures" checkbox. Make sure that it is checked, and press OK twice. If this doesn't solve the problem, try clearing your cache (Ctrl-F5 in IE). If that still doesn't help, feel free to ask again (possibly with more information) here or on my talk page. —METS501 (talk) 04:12, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Create a page
How do i create a page
how to create a page
Type the name of the page you wish to create into the search box in the sidebar at the left of your screen. If it is to be in the article namespace, it doesn't need a prefix. But if it is in another namespace, like the user namespace, it needs to be preceded by the name of the namespace followed by a colon. For example to create a page called "How to create a page" in the Misplaced Pages namespace, type (without the quotes) "Misplaced Pages:How to create a page".
If the page doesn't already exist, Misplaced Pages will give you the option of creating the page. Read the screen carefully, and follow the directions.
Another way to create a page is to click on a red link. For example, if your name is in red at the top of your screen, click on it, and start editing in the edit box provided. (You may have to scroll down a little to see the edit box).
I hope this helps, and if you have any further questions, please feel free to ask away.
The Transhumanist 02:54, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- It was Norton 360 on Steroids. I asked their help desk after reading the article on here saying it had compatibility issues with IE 7. Half the pages wouldn't load at all and cut off my internet. KoalaMeatPie 20:30, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
HELP!
I need help with this page. And no I don't want it deleted. Angry Sun 01:02, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- As such? KoalaMeatPie 01:07, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- That annoying Character box is all I really need fixed now... Angry Sun 01:09, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- Mmm. You did it again. Eh, you'll learn. - History tab, Select Version, "Undo" if you mess up to badly. KoalaMeatPie 01:12, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- That annoying Character box is all I really need fixed now... Angry Sun 01:09, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
What's the point of the Assessment Drive?
Why do articles need to be assessed?
Wouldn't the effort be better spent directly upon improving the articles rather than assessing them?
Just curious.
The Transhumanist 02:46, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- Personally, I think the best answer to that question would be a matter of expanding. It helps sort articles in terms of the amount of work that still need to be done on them. Just my opinion. --Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (ταlκ) 02:50, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- Assessment is valuable as an outside party can take a look at an article and identify problematic parts, which helps those who are involved in the article clean it up. Everyone gets a little too close to their work sometimes, so it helps to have an extra set of eyes point out the obvious flaws we may overlook. -- Kesh 03:43, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- It also gives me a good thing to look at when I go to a relevant category to work out what article to work on next. I hate looking at articles which are better than what I can improve when I am trying to find something to work on (not that that happens very often).Garrie 05:47, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- People are more likely to work on things if they have a specific rating of how much they've done and how much is left to do in a category; assessment helps that, I think. Plus it helps decide which articles are ready for a CD selection or the like. —Dark•Shikari 12:23, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- Some people might be able to recognize more problems than they know how to fix, or they can recognize problems faster than they can fix them. They can still help by listing the problems they recognize in a way that allows the (fewer) people who know how to fix the problems to avoid having to look for them. Pointing out problems makes them more obvious, possibly attracting the attention of someone who knows how to fix them, who might have overlooked an unmarked problem. There is also the matter of efficiency. Someone who fixes many instances of the same type of problem by working from a list can get faster at it than someone who fixes one type of problem at a time in the course of random article browsing. To fix a given type of problem, you may have to read a guideline page, look up some appropriate template, play with it until you understand it, and so on. Once you know how to fix that problem, you might as well fix as many instances of it as you can, to get a good return on the overhead effort of learning how to fix it. Plus, some people like to know how Misplaced Pages is doing. The MediaWiki software can automatically tell us we have 6,944,014 articles and 48,600,446 registered users, but what do those numbers mean? We can see how large Misplaced Pages is getting, but is it getting better? Is Misplaced Pages getting closer to its goal of providing a 💕 of the highest quality? Misplaced Pages's user interface has some influence on the kinds of editing people do. For example, if we decide the article count isn't growing fast enough (which seems highly unlikely), we might be able to increase the new article creation by making it easier and more obvious. On the other hand, if we decide the volume is increasing faster than the quality, we might think of ways to encourage more users to improve the quality of existing articles rather than start so many new ones. For example, we put up the barrier of requiring users to create accounts before they can start new articles. That probably had the effect of slowing the new article creation rate below whatever it would be now if unregistered users could still create new articles. We could raise the hurdle farther in a variety of ways, such as by adding a waiting period to new accounts before they can create new articles, or by requiring them to have a minimum number of edits, etc. I'm not sure how to create additional positive incentives to improve existing articles. I guess we could hand out more barnstars or something. --Teratornis 21:10, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Filmography Listing
I was wondering if you could tell me how to make a filmography on an actor's article? Thank you
InsanityOnline 04:27, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- Short answer: learn from how others have done it. Try Matt Damon, a well-known American actor. There's an infobox on the right and a Wikitable in the article text. Either presentation is effective. Use the WP:SANDBOX to tinker with these templates until you can make them do what you want. Shalom 06:06, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- Click "Edit this page", then copy the source code onto the sandbox, and edit the sandbox. Shalom 06:07, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Passwords
How do I find my passwod if I cannot remember it?
- If you listed your email address when you created your account, click "E-mail new password" on the login screen, then check your email.
- If you did not list your email address, there is no way to recover your password. You will need to start over from a new account (but you can copy your old userpage etc.). Shalom 06:03, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Redirect
Following this edit to one of my user sub-pages, I thought I should put {{olddraft}} on it. That template allows me to specify the "target article" for the draft, but not the target talk page. It automatically pointed to Talk:GarrieIrons/Westfields in Australia/talk, which I turned into a redirect to my own talk page. Does all this sound about right - that is, is the redirect from the Talk namespace to my own user talk namespace break any rules?
If you think it does, please let me know on my talk page. Thanks, Garrie 05:44, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- Um, that's a little weird, but don't worry about it. If a similar situation were happening in the main article space, I would bother to retarget the double redirect, but since it's in your userspace, double redirects or misplaced redirects are not harmful. Shalom 06:10, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
register
I want to register my name, my question is on how to creat so that i may belong to the[REDACTED] organization? 58.69.31.121 07:37, 26 June 2007 (UTC)×
- Click here and go to town. --Haemo 07:38, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
I want to create a new article...
I want to create a new article but I dont how to use php .. please guide me. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.227.106.122 (talk • contribs).
- Replied on user's talk page. +spebi ~ 07:53, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Embeded Images
How do you put an image on an article? user talk: Naj da man
- Replied on user's talk page. +spebi ~ 08:56, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
vandalism by ip 82.17.83.54
this guy has vandalised 2/3 pages so far. i've removed the vandalism. i've no idea how to report him. can someone do it, or show me how? thanks Geeness 10:56, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- Have a look at WP:VANDAL. There's also a complete list of warning templates on Misplaced Pages:Template_messages/User_talk_namespace#Usual_warnings. I'd suggest leaving him a level three vandalism warning on his talk page, for now. --saxsux 20:33, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
sociology
what are the roles of boys and girls in a society?
- The help desk is for questions about wikipedia. You want the reference desk, but they won't help you with your homework either -- Phoeba Wright 12:23, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- Hahaha, you could ofcourse also read the article about Gender role or Sex differences. - Face 13:47, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
How do I make a page in a different language while linking it to an English page?
- (Question moved from Misplaced Pages:Help desk/Archives/2007 June 23#How do I make a page in a different language while linking it to an English page?--VectorPotential 11:35, 26 June 2007 (UTC))
The page Law of the United States is only in 5 other languages, and I wanted to make one in Slovak. How do I create the page and make it show up under the same title but in the Slovak section? Any help would be appreciated, thanks! Metaalla 11:23, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- Just go to the Slovak Misplaced Pages, type the Slovak translation of the title "Law of the United States" into the search box on the left, click go, and then click edit - then just start writing! When you're done, you can easily add interwiki links to versions of the same article in other languages. Just go to the bottom of any existing article on the topic in another language (for example the English version), click edit, add an interwiki link to your new Slovak version, and copy and paste the other interwiki links into your new Slovak article. --Kwekubo 11:51, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- To clarify: there is no "Slovak section". The Slovak Misplaced Pages is a separate encyclopedia (and the same goes for the various other languages). --Tugbug 23:42, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Automatic e-mail
How to get automatic e-mail on subjects or topics of interest?
- I'm not sure what you mean exactly but I don't think we have anything like that. ssepp 20:54, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- For the closest things I know of, go here: User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Misplaced Pages#New and scroll down a screen or two to the "News:" entry. There you can get news about Misplaced Pages itself in various formats. If you want e-mail on some other subjects, you could try Google Search. For example, say you are interested in Astronomy and you want e-mail about it. Let's ask the Great Google: Google:Astronomy e-mail. That finds a bunch of links about Astronomy mailing lists, e-mail newsletters, etc. --Teratornis 21:41, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
George Moore, American Radio presenter
I am quite disturbed, no, no I am PISSED, that someone took it upon themselves to delete the information on American radio 'presenter' George Moore. It did not take a LOT of digging to meticulously enter that information on Mr. Moore, because I am HE!
Would someone explain to me the correct way of inputting, and KEEPING this information available to Wiki-pedia readers. Yes, I DID check the 'relevence' percentage of my information, and it was 17 % . Now, that isn't exactly OVERWHELMING to anyone, but at least that many people MIGHT want to know something about me. So, could that deleted info be re-entered by the mensa who originally deleted, or....? do I have to re-enter it on the condition that it is LEFT THE HELL ALONE??
75.42.98.26 13:09, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
George Moore -American Radio presenter
- The article was deleted at the following date and time with the following reason:
- "23:34, 8 May 2007 Stephen (Talk | contribs) deleted "George Moore (American Radio Presenter)" (Expired prod, concern was: NN, no refs)"
- I suggest you read over Misplaced Pages's notability guidelines as well as the guidelines for conflicts of interest and autobiographies. Dismas| 13:15, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- What do you mean by the relevance percentage? I only know of it in a search result where I think it shows how well an articles matches a search entry, it has nothing to do with how useful or notable an article is. ssepp 21:05, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- You should look at Misplaced Pages:Notability (people). ssepp 21:12, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- While civility is a good idea in general, we do have an ergonomic shortcoming on Misplaced Pages in that this is often the very first wiki many new users attempt to edit on. Many if not most new users have prior experience with other user-editable Web sites such as Google Groups, MySpace, countless blogs and Internet forum sites, etc. On most of those sites, generally one's edits stay put. For example, post a new message to Google Groups and it will probably remain online until Google goes broke, even if you beg and plead to have it deleted. After years of experience with sites like that, a typical user may have no concept of anything else. On Misplaced Pages, in contrast, 48,600,446 registered users can potentially mess with your work, along with any number of unregistered users. The user interface of Misplaced Pages doesn't do enough to warn new users such as the current questioner just how drastically Misplaced Pages departs from other editable sites they have used before. On Misplaced Pages, it is evidently very easy for a new user to figure out how to create a new article, but not nearly so easy for a new user to become aware that Misplaced Pages deletes several pages per minute for violating the various policies and guidelines. For example, I created my first article very early in my editing career; it was easy to get the idea to do that, and easy to figure out how. In contrast, I only gradually became aware of the scale of deletion going on here after months of actively editing. This whole deletion business just doesn't seem to be something new users are likely to grasp as early as they need to. The fact that every day we have several users asking Why was my page deleted? on the Help desk suggests something is ergonomically quite wrong with that. (Further, we can suspect the users who find their way to the Help desk are but a fraction of those we shock.) Perhaps the Main Page should not only show the current article count, but also the current deletion count. Perhaps when a new user goes to create a first new article, they should have to demonstrate some level of understanding to an actual human of how Misplaced Pages works. Or perhaps for that first article they should have to first propose the article and get it provisionally approved. The current method of just letting novices spend hours editing any article they think should go on Wikiepidia, only to have it deleted leads to unpleasant outcomes often enough to suggest we can find a way to make Misplaced Pages friendlier to new users. Before we let people wander into the minefield, we should first require them to acknowledge they understand it is a minefield. Another problem is that we just delete articles, generally without offering any advice on how to find another wiki which might accept our rejects. I don't begrudge the questioner for blowing off a bit of steam after basically getting suckered by a site that doesn't do enough to distance itself from the multitude of other more familiar user-editable sites. With thousands of pages getting deleted every day here, it's a wonder we don't have more users screaming at us. One also wonders how many users we unwittingly transform into vandals by unnecessarily angering them. --Teratornis 03:32, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Edit counter
Just wondering, is there a template in which you can put your username so that it automaticaly generates the total number of edits you have made? Or is there a userbox which does this? E.g. "This user has made 2473 edits". - Face 13:47, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- We discourage excessive interest in edit counts because of editcountitis and because the query to get the count is a strain on the database. RJFJR 13:54, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- And yet at the same time, edit count is the only convenient statistic we have for estimating an editor's experience level, which correlates roughly with an editor's understanding of Misplaced Pages policies and so on. So while we have reasons to deplore our excessive emphasis on edit count, we go right along excessively emphasizing it. For more about edit count see: User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Misplaced Pages#Edi. --Teratornis 14:17, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- Ok, thanks for the explanations/links! - Face 16:51, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- As for the userboxes, there used to be separate ones to display the increments in edit count as determined by the edit counters, e.g. 1,000+, 2,000+, etc. However now there's one template in use. --BrokenSphere 17:14, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- And yet at the same time, edit count is the only convenient statistic we have for estimating an editor's experience level, which correlates roughly with an editor's understanding of Misplaced Pages policies and so on. So while we have reasons to deplore our excessive emphasis on edit count, we go right along excessively emphasizing it. For more about edit count see: User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Misplaced Pages#Edi. --Teratornis 14:17, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Company entry
I was told to create an entry for our company, so people looking for information we offer can find it on Misplaced Pages, but I don't see a link to do so. I've looked thru the FAQs, but don't see anything there either. Do I just create a page with the information? Our site is free with a lot of great info., so I want those loooking to be able to find it. Thanks for your help —Preceding unsigned comment added by JennC72 (talk • contribs)
- Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia, not a message board or classified ad system. If your company is notable, someone would have created an encyclopedia article about it. -- (¿ʇɐɥʍ) ʍɐuıɐʞ 14:25, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
CD
IS IT AVAILEBLE SOME TRAINING CD FOR SABRE (UPDATED LATLEY)? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.117.234.210 (talk • contribs)
- First, do not type in all caps. It means you are screaming at everyone. Second, this is a reference desk for Misplaced Pages, not Sabre. -- (¿ʇɐɥʍ) ʍɐuıɐʞ 16:01, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
New messages error
Help! I can't get rid of the "You have new messages (last change)." tag! I've clicked both links and it's still there... This isn't a caching problem, cos it's on every new page - 82.16.7.63 16:12, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- It probably is a caching problem, but with Misplaced Pages itself rather than with you. See bugzilla:9213: it's a known problem, but it's not entirely clear what's causing it. There's also Category:Wikipedians who are terribly frustrated about Bug ID 9213; you're not the only person who's annoyed about this. (It's likely to go away eventually of its own accord; I'm not sure what causes it to do this either.) --ais523 16:58, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
i need to know terminologies
study of birds study of coins study of insects study of solar system study of heart study of plants study of weather study of rays/rotation study of animals study of heredity
- Ornithology, numismatics, entomology, wait...do your own homework. Or try the Reference desk. This page is for questions about editing Misplaced Pages. tiZom(2¢) 16:34, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- Try using Google; the answer is almost always in the first few hits, e.g. "study of birds". Let us know what you find. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 16:36, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Categories
On two pages (American University Museum and Jack Rasmussen) they are not being listed in the category page for which they have been designated. How do I fix that?
Ks9887a 17:01, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- They look fine to me, both are in Category:American University, which I assume is what you were talking about. The server was probably just being slow and not updating the categories properly. If you still can't see them, try purging your cache, that generally fixes most software and browser errors. --tjstrf talk 17:18, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
new page
can you please tell me how to find the button to click to create a new page. i have searched and read thoroughly.
thanks,
brian —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brianrouch (talk • contribs)
- Enter the name of the article in the search box and click 'go'. If the page doesn't exist and you are allowed to create it, a link will show up allowing you to create it. -- (¿ʇɐɥʍ) ʍɐuıɐʞ 17:43, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- See Help:Starting a new page. The Sunshine Man 17:43, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- Be aware that Misplaced Pages deletes several new articles per minute on average. Before you sink lots of time into editing a new article, be sure you understand Misplaced Pages policies and it won't simply end up getting deleted. If you want to run your new article idea by us first, we can advise you on how to write it so it is more likely to "stick." --Teratornis 21:47, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Forging Signatures
I was just wondering what the penalty was on Misplaced Pages for forging signatures of other users (e.g.: User X gets all the HTML code from the signature of User Y, places it on a talk page, and signs it with ~~~~~, producing the date, in order to pretend to gain support on a consensus from an administrator, for example). Please do not get me wrong. I did not, and do not have any intentions to do so, forge other users' signatures. I just saw an IP address do this, and I was wondering what the penalty (if one exists) was. Also, please be kind enough to respond on my talk page. Thank you. Universe=atom 17:42, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- You should leave them a friendly yet firm comment on their talk page and remove the incorrect comment from the page, explaining this in the edits summary, if they continue then warn them again and if they do it again you can take it to AIV. All the best. The Sunshine Man 17:44, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- Of course you probably want to make sure the IP in question isn't actually the person whose name they're signing. --VectorPotential 18:22, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- And the real source remains recorded in the history regardless of how it is signed. RJFJR 04:25, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Citations
I have a question concerning citations tags on a page that I gave major contributions. I know the information to give sufficient answers, but for the life of me, I can not figure out how to edit the page to correct the citations. I have read the procedures on this subject many, many times, but it hasn’t helped me at all. I would appreciate any help. The page in question is "The Diamonds". min7th 18:12, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- Replace each instance of
{{fact}}
with a citation template (follow the link for a list), wrapped in<ref>
tags, so for example,- Replace
{{fact}}
- with
<ref>{{cite web|author = someone |url = http://www.something.com|accessdate=2007-06-26}}</ref>
- Is that what you're trying to accomplish? tiZom(2¢) 18:52, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
I have no idea. Thanks anyway.min7th 19:41, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- Are you saying there are errors with the citations that you want to correct? If that is the case, in the list of references, there is a small number at the start of each. If you click it, it will take you to the point in the article where that reference is used. That linked number will appear in brackets, i.e. . You want to click "edit this page", then go the that point in the article. You'll see ref tags and the cite web template. Cite web templates have the various fields separated for easy editing. Using the link provided by the previous responder may be of help to you in making changes. Let me know if that's not what you are trying to do and/or you need further assistance. LaraLove/C 19:54, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
My apologies. It did sound as if I wanted to correct errors of the citations. It all sounded very clear as I was writing it. OK, let’s start over. The page in question has citations tags on certain facts. I wanted to give source for the facts and eliminate the citation tags. I have a feeling the first answer to my question was close, but the process of doing so was leading me to other areas of not knowing what I’m doing. I thank you both for your efforts, but I think I’ll just forget the whole thing. By the way, the source to use is listed on the page as “The Official Website Original Diamonds”, under External Links. This is an authorized site.min7th 20:52, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Summary
I have noticed that many people manage to put in a link in the Summary describing the edit they have made.
How exactly do you do it ?
--Tovojolo 18:56, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- The same way you'd put it in an article, by typing "]" in the edit summary box. (Category links need to be prefixed with ":Category:", not just "Category:", of course, otherwise they won't show up.) --tjstrf talk 19:01, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
article
Where do i go to make an article
- You will need to register an account, at which point you should read Help:Starting a new page and follow the directions there. (Page creation by unregistered users is disabled due to spam issues.)
- If you do not wish to make an account, you could make a request for article creation at Misplaced Pages:Articles for creation. --tjstrf talk 20:10, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Deleted Page History?
Sorry if this is a FAQ, but is it possible to access the page history and former revisions of a deleted article?
Kevinwong913 20:39, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- Only editors with administrative access can do it. Friday (talk) 20:40, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- That's not entirely correct. See WP:OVERSIGHT. --Ybbor 20:41, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Page/hit counter for wiki-pages
is there a way to setup a hit counter on wiki-pages?
Color or colour?
I've noticed in many articles that both the UK and US spellings of words like color/colour, center/centre, and so on... get reverted back and forth as "spelling errors". Is there a preferred English to use on Misplaced Pages? Or does it just depend on the topic and the individual editor's preference? Just curious, I've seen some rather heated and quite amusing edit wars on this.CindyBo 23:43, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- The official designation in the manual of style is: whichever is more appropriate for the subject. For instance, Doctor Who would more appropriately use UK English, while Stargate SG-1 would use US English. In articles where nationality is not relevant (eg. Horse), then either one is appropriate so long as the spelling choice is consistant. However, it should not be corrected whole-cloth, as you describe. Edit wars over this are quite silly, and editors involved should be reminded to leave it be. -- Kesh 23:48, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- Talking about silly edit wars, Misplaced Pages:Lamest edit wars documents one over whether it should be orange (color) or orange (colour). I'm just glad I'm French...Circeus 23:53, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- And I'm just glad you're not arguing for Orange (couleur). Confusing Manifestation 01:17, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- Talking about silly edit wars, Misplaced Pages:Lamest edit wars documents one over whether it should be orange (color) or orange (colour). I'm just glad I'm French...Circeus 23:53, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, that's makes sense.CindyBo 00:53, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- Once upon a time I opined that the national variety of English should be localizable in the user's preferences, with only things such as organization titles showing a fixed variety of English (e.g., "Defence Ministry", etc.). It doesn't make sense to fight over something that really should be a user preference setting. Everyone should be able to read Misplaced Pages in the language/spelling/dialect of his/her choice. I'm surprised to hear that France avoided this problem - have no former French colonies evolved linguistically away from the mother country? One would expect any widely-spoken language to diversify. --Teratornis 02:26, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- That has its own issues. It may be a large database hit to substitute the text on the fly; it doesn't account for misspelled words; and someone's bound to be upset if the default language setting is wrong. The current method is crude, but works well enough until people get too nationalistic. -- Kesh 02:53, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- I may be delusional, but I like to imagine Great powers such as the United States and the United Kingdom have sufficient resources to present their own national varieties of Misplaced Pages to their subjects, sooner or later. (I think the importance of Misplaced Pages as a national resource will come to be widely understood. Imagine where we might be in another five years. Perhaps by then a large fraction of people in a given country will be relying on Misplaced Pages to tell them what's what, and that's bound to attract attention from influential people in that country who will want to insure their citizens are getting the best service possible.) After all, we have a whole bunch of separate language Wikipedias already. A language primarily spoken in only one country amounts to a de facto national Misplaced Pages. If a country like Thailand can have its own Misplaced Pages, why not also countries such as the United States and the United Kingdom? Any localization scheme is bound to have problems, but will they be worse than the problems created by the current system which doesn't even attempt to conform to the user's understanding of English? I wouldn't suggest a fully automated system anyway, as manual tagging of words to be spelled variably would seem necessary, to avoid localizing words that should not be localized, such as in titles of organizations and so on. Determining how best to localize the national variety of English would require some serious thought. --Teratornis 04:04, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- This is getting way off-topic for the help desk, but I think fracturing Misplaced Pages as described would lead to further problems. Might be a topic to bring up on the village pump for discussion, though. -- Kesh 04:12, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- I may be delusional, but I like to imagine Great powers such as the United States and the United Kingdom have sufficient resources to present their own national varieties of Misplaced Pages to their subjects, sooner or later. (I think the importance of Misplaced Pages as a national resource will come to be widely understood. Imagine where we might be in another five years. Perhaps by then a large fraction of people in a given country will be relying on Misplaced Pages to tell them what's what, and that's bound to attract attention from influential people in that country who will want to insure their citizens are getting the best service possible.) After all, we have a whole bunch of separate language Wikipedias already. A language primarily spoken in only one country amounts to a de facto national Misplaced Pages. If a country like Thailand can have its own Misplaced Pages, why not also countries such as the United States and the United Kingdom? Any localization scheme is bound to have problems, but will they be worse than the problems created by the current system which doesn't even attempt to conform to the user's understanding of English? I wouldn't suggest a fully automated system anyway, as manual tagging of words to be spelled variably would seem necessary, to avoid localizing words that should not be localized, such as in titles of organizations and so on. Determining how best to localize the national variety of English would require some serious thought. --Teratornis 04:04, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- That has its own issues. It may be a large database hit to substitute the text on the fly; it doesn't account for misspelled words; and someone's bound to be upset if the default language setting is wrong. The current method is crude, but works well enough until people get too nationalistic. -- Kesh 02:53, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
I the case of articles in which either is appropriate, in addition to being consistent throughout the article, as mentioned above, it is recommended that the spelling used by the original editor be kept. LaraLove/C 03:17, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
June 27
Changing A Link
I am the "webmaster" of the Henry S. Jacobs Camp[REDACTED] page. Below is my issue.
If you go the Ginnefer Goodwin page, it mentions that she attended our camp. The link on that page goes to the Union of Reform Judaism page. How can we switch to go to our[REDACTED] page?
Thanks.
- First, you might want to check out WP:OWN. No one is the 'webmaster' of any Misplaced Pages page. As to the link, I'll take a look at that. -- Kesh 01:05, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- Okay, there is no Misplaced Pages page for Ginnefer Goodwin. Are you referring to an outside website? If so, we have no control over that. -- Kesh 01:07, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- Kesh beat me to it, no-one owns anything here. its a wiki. As for Ginnefer Goodwin, that page doesn't exist... but if you were to change a link to direct it somewhere simply type ]. Hope this helps. ~ peaceful dreams 01:09, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- Part of being a Help desk helper is knowing how to de-garble the questions people ask. The first step is to convert sloppy page references into actual links. For example, this page exists: Union for Reform Judaism. Clicking toolbox | What links here shows its backlinks. One of them is: Ginnifer Goodwin. That's probably what the questioner meant by "Ginnefer Goodwin". Tiny spelling errors like that are usually inconsequential in real life, but on Misplaced Pages we depend on exact spellings to look pages up. One very good reason to refer to pages as links is to catch such spelling errors, which will show up as red links. --Teratornis 02:12, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- Nice catch! Ginnifer is an unusal enough spelling I'd have never come across it, and didn't think to check the What Links Here bit. -- Kesh 02:55, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- Part of being a Help desk helper is knowing how to de-garble the questions people ask. The first step is to convert sloppy page references into actual links. For example, this page exists: Union for Reform Judaism. Clicking toolbox | What links here shows its backlinks. One of them is: Ginnifer Goodwin. That's probably what the questioner meant by "Ginnefer Goodwin". Tiny spelling errors like that are usually inconsequential in real life, but on Misplaced Pages we depend on exact spellings to look pages up. One very good reason to refer to pages as links is to catch such spelling errors, which will show up as red links. --Teratornis 02:12, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- Kesh beat me to it, no-one owns anything here. its a wiki. As for Ginnefer Goodwin, that page doesn't exist... but if you were to change a link to direct it somewhere simply type ]. Hope this helps. ~ peaceful dreams 01:09, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- Okay, there is no Misplaced Pages page for Ginnefer Goodwin. Are you referring to an outside website? If so, we have no control over that. -- Kesh 01:07, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
New accounts and old histories...
Hi there. I've decided that i really should edit from an account rather than my IP number, as I'm a bit worried that the other users of my particular IP number may choose to start editing Misplaced Pages too and this could cause problems. There's also a privacy issue here. My question is - If I get an account, can the contribution history of my IP number be merged with that of my new account to prevent confusion? My talk page? If not, is there any way of deleting or hiding or otherwise dealing appropriately with my IP contributions? I have not created the account yet, but it would seem a pity to loose my IP contributions. What should I do? Advice would be very much appreciated. Best regards, 195.137.96.79 01:40, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- I don't think IP contributions can be merged into an account, I'm afraid, but the talk page can, just copy over the comments. - Zeibura 01:42, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on the circumstances) your IP edits will not carry over to your new account. Consider it a fresh start. -- Kesh 02:00, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- Hmm, well if that's how it is - that's how it is! Pity though... Thanks a lot for your help 195.137.96.79 02:09, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- If you want, you can put something on your user page to the effect of "Prior to July 2007, I edited under the IP 195.137.96.79 (talk · contribs)". Confusing Manifestation 03:38, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Problem with specific user in specific article
I am referring to the user TJ_Spyke and the article List of Virtual Console games (North America). The article has been fully protected for months because of an edit war. The debate is whether or not to include the point values in the table wit hall the games. Recently, I started a discussion on the talk page of how we could remove the points listing from the tables (since there are over 100 titles in the tables, all following the same general form for points cost, except 2 games), and everyone except TJ_Spyke agreed, and offered suggestions. So, I took into account all of the suggestions, and created a new table listing just the points and placed it at the bottom of the article, and removed the points from the larger tables. Without even discussing his thoughts, then, TJ_Spyke reverted my edit. This article should not be fully protected, since new games come out each and every week, and it takes forever to have it edited by a moderator every single week... but no changes can be made to it with this guy around; he has been doing this for months, and will not even consider a minor change to how he envisions the article. Is there a way to prevent a certain user from editing a certain article, and who should I contact to help solve the problem? Thanks for your help! Miles Blues 02:25, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- Follow the procedures outlined at dispute resolution. -- Kesh 02:58, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Image and information
I;m trying to post information about a new magazine and I was wondering what the meta tag would be for a field like the one here...
http://en.wikipedia.org/Rue_Morgue
Thank you.
Dfrydendall 02:50, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- I assume you want to know how to make that funky infobox at the top of the article. I am copying the source code here (with "nowiki" tags), and you can edit it on the WP:SANDBOX to replace each data field as appropriate.
While I have your attention, you should make sure the magazine fulfills the notability criteria for articles. Otherwise, it might be deleted, and I don't want your work to fall in vain.
Here's the source code:
{{Infobox_Magazine| title = Rue Morgue | image = ] ''Issue 62 of Rue Morgue | editor = Jovanka Vuckovic | frequency = Monthly (exception of February) | category = Horror | company = Marrs Media Inc. | firstdate = October 1997 | country = ] | website = |}}
Shalom 02:55, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Different image appearing
I'm quite confused. I changed the image in the Chayanne article from Image:Chayanne.JPG (a copyvio) to Image:Chayanne.jpg, which I just uploaded at Commons. Now some headshot of the guy (not the free picture I uploaded) is showing up in the article. I checked the history of that filename, and there was a file uploaded there, but it was deleted in December and looks different from the one that's showing up. Anyone know what's happening? ShadowHalo 03:52, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- The link is picking up a file that's been locally uploaded to en.wikipedia.org, rather than the commons. Images uploaded to the English Misplaced Pages itself take precidence over Commons links when they share the same name. You'll need to rename your file on the commons and link to the new name. -- Kesh 03:59, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- You can't link to it as commons:Image:Chayanne.jpg? Well, I guess I answered my own question there. Apparently not. --tjstrf talk 04:47, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- I'm aware that images on English Misplaced Pages override ones from the Commons. But the image appearing in the article does not appear to ever have been uploaded here. ShadowHalo 05:31, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- Alright, something odd is going on. If you look at this diff, you get the image linked above. At this diff, you added the link which gives us a totally different image, one which is also totally different from yours on Commons. My suspicion is either a) there's a cached image on Misplaced Pages somewhere that is overriding your Commons image, or b) something on Commons is pointing to the wrong image file. Beyond that, I don't know what's going on. -- Kesh 05:44, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- How about a cached deleted commons image? Perhaps something here. Prodego 06:08, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- I tried purging the cache of the article and the two image pages (the local copy and the Commons one), but nothing seems to have changed. Weird. Confusing Manifestation 06:31, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- How about a cached deleted commons image? Perhaps something here. Prodego 06:08, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- Alright, something odd is going on. If you look at this diff, you get the image linked above. At this diff, you added the link which gives us a totally different image, one which is also totally different from yours on Commons. My suspicion is either a) there's a cached image on Misplaced Pages somewhere that is overriding your Commons image, or b) something on Commons is pointing to the wrong image file. Beyond that, I don't know what's going on. -- Kesh 05:44, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- I'm aware that images on English Misplaced Pages override ones from the Commons. But the image appearing in the article does not appear to ever have been uploaded here. ShadowHalo 05:31, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- You can't link to it as commons:Image:Chayanne.jpg? Well, I guess I answered my own question there. Apparently not. --tjstrf talk 04:47, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- I've moved the question to Misplaced Pages:Village pump (technical)#Different image appearing to see if someone there knows what's happening. ShadowHalo 04:24, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Family question
dears, i belongs to kashmiri family (mir) but i can understand that mir family is really a kashmiri family or a other if any body know about this family plz solve my this problem i trully thankfill to him or her knowl. because i have not any proof of my family so that i disturbe . and make sure that the information u provide me is that true .plz yours
ammar aslam mir
bye .
- I'm afraid this is a help page about how to use wikipedia, we don't really answer those sorts of questions (and to be honest, I'm not even sure what you are asking). --Fredrick day 09:13, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- I'm thinking the same as Fredrick day, try Reference Desk, they might be able to help.Blacksmith2 09:19, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Protecting logos / Logos copyrights
Dear Sir or Madame,
I added a logo o a page European Computer Driving Licence and I don't know how to protect the copyrights for this logo. could yoy please help with this and let me know what to do?
Many thanks in advance, Tanja —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.94.228.114 (talk • contribs)
- Well, the European Computer Driving Licence article appears to have some problems and needs work. Its talk page is a bit messy as well, with entries from some people who seem unfamiliar with the talk page guidelines. I tried to encourage better talk page use by placing a {{Talkheader}} template on it. As to the image copyright problem, copyrights in general are a complicated problem on Misplaced Pages. For an extensive list of references, see: User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Misplaced Pages#Cop. See WP:IUP for more specific information. --Teratornis 14:42, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
How to edit this page?
I would like to add citations and more content to the page on flatulence, but I can't. I am a registered user. How can I add more content to this page?
Alanw337 10:56, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, Alan--Alanw337 10:56, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- Flatulence has been semi-protected, and so unregistered users and users whose accounts relatively new (roughly four days old is the limit, I believe) can't edit the page. Until you can, you're welcome to go to the article's talk page (the "discussion" tab up the top) and make your suggestions there. Confusing Manifestation 11:06, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
watchlist
How can I add articles to my watchlist? Im having a blonde day and cant seem to figure it out. Jayflips —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jayflips (talk • contribs)
- Click the "watch" tab at the top when you are looking at the page. PrimeHunter 12:32, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Izarra
I wish to know how to pronounce this French Liqueur. Is it Iz R a or Iz air a?
24.59.219.181 11:32, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry this is for Misplaced Pages related questions only, sorry. The Sunshine Man 11:51, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- This help desk is only for questions about using Misplaced Pages, but the question can be asked at Misplaced Pages:Reference desk/Language. We have an article about Izarra but it does not give pronunciation. PrimeHunter 12:36, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- Sometimes you get lucky with Google. Let's try it: Google:Izarra pronunciation finds a bunch of pages which purport to know how to pronounce this (evidently) Basque language word. If Izarra is a Basque word, I'd imagine someone at the Basque Misplaced Pages could help you out. Or try Portal:Basque or Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Basque or ask this guy: User:Sugaar or someone else in Category:User eu. --Teratornis 14:54, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Abdalle Isse Yusuf
Abdalle Isse Yusuf is a young Somali stateman, he was born in the Southern East of the country now knonn as Puntland state of Somalai.
- that's nice - do you have a question about wikipedia? --Fredrick day 12:42, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Abdalle Isse Yusuf Mohamed (C/laahi Ciise Yuusuf Maxamad) is a somali politician and stragist, he was born in Dhaadaar near Qandala district of Bari region on Somalia, he studied Ashafi'i primary and Intermidaiate School, and gratuated from Bosaso Public Secondary school of Bosaso,he studied the University of Azaim Alazhari in Sudan the foculty of Political Science and Strategic Studies. Abdalle is the last son born and he is the brother of two boys ( Dr. Mahdi Isse and Cap. Mohamed Isse) and brother of seven sisters ( Maryan, Saido, Khadro, Salado, Warsan, Fadumo and Caways)his mother is Mumino Isse Roble Abdi, the sister of Dr. Ismail Isse Roble(pediatrician).
account problem
I opened an account yesterday (June 26) with the username Tabithajohnson. Today when I attempt to log on, I get a message saying that there's no such username. What has happened? Why can't I access my account and how can I edit the text I submitted under that username?
- I'm afraid the name 'Tabithajohnson' does not appear on our list of users. It is possible you made a typo when creating the name. You said you made some edits under that name; can you remember the pages you edited? Those edits will be recorded in the history of each page, so if you can remember a page you edited you can look there and find out the name of your account. Raven4x4x 13:50, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- Are you on the same Misplaced Pages? this is the english one. Each of the wikipedias has a separate login. -Arch dude 14:14, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Re:Sources?
Can I take a sentence/paragraph from somewhere, changed most of it, but the information is still there, and put it in an article? And cite it as a source? -Zacharycrimsonwolf 13:54, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- I believe that's pretty much the way we are supposed to write articles on Misplaced Pages. See: WP:RS, WP:CITE, and WP:CITET. --Teratornis 15:05, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- When citing another source, it's a good idea to use your own words to convey meaning and let your citation provide reference to the origina. "Changing most of it" isn't quite right, as most of the time the sentence will read poorly or not make as much sense. Just summarize the source in your own words, or quote it directly. -- Kesh 16:59, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Can I copy a few or more (the entire thing?) paragraphs from the source? And I meant, litrally copy. Obviously, its a violation of the copyright, but I'm checking. Or should I change it first? -Zacharycrimsonwolf 13:08, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Exporting Wiki content
How do I export wiki pages?
- I'm not sure quite what you're asking. Try looking at Misplaced Pages:Database dump. In general, if you wish to copy pages, by hand, you must cite Misplaced Pages as the original source of the page, based on the licensing requirements of the GFDL. Shalom 14:34, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- Perhaps you may find something you can use at User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Misplaced Pages#Exp. Your question is vague because you did not specify what you want to export to, and it's not even clear what wiki you want to export from. The easiest form of exporting is from one MediaWiki wiki to another one. For example, lots of people who start their own MediaWiki wikis copy various templates and pages from well-developed wikis such as Misplaced Pages. As both the source and destination systems run the same software, no file conversion is necessary. However, if you want to export pages from a wiki to a different type of software, such as a word processing program, then you must convert wikitext into a file format the destination system can read. And then the adventure begins. --Teratornis 15:56, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Israel and my alleged "non-neutral" point of view
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Kev Kiernan (talk • contribs) (Comment removed. Misplaced Pages is not a soapbox.} Shalom 14:41, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- The poster was apparently trying to reply to a User talk post by Gareth Hughes (the name of User:Garzo). A reply should be posted to User talk:Garzo instead of here (where Gareth Hughes will probably not see it). PrimeHunter 15:00, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Nathalie Baye films
Could you please give me a site where I can purchase Nathalie Baye Films?
Thank you,
Dennis Pallis
- Nathalie Baye has an article which lists her filmography. Try pasting the name of the film you want into Google Search. Or try a retailer such as Amazon.com. --Teratornis 14:58, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Wikimedia Commons
Is everything from Misplaced Pages Commons public domain? Or is it GFDL? -- Casmith_789 (talk) 14:54, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- Wikimedia Commons is a separate project than Misplaced Pages, but we can still answer your question. It is not all public domain, nor all GFDL. Misplaced Pages has an article that covers roughly the inclusion policy of the Commons: Wikimedia_Commons#Policies_and_usage. Sancho 15:28, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Both. Quoting from the Misplaced Pages article on Wikimedia Commons:
The files uploaded to the Commons repository can be used like locally uploaded files on all other projects on the Wikimedia servers in all languages, including Misplaced Pages, Wikibooks, Wikisource and Wikinews, or downloaded for offsite use, as all of the content is either in the public domain or released under free licenses such as the GNU Free Documentation License.
Shalom 15:31, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- Also note that the name is Wikimedia Commons rather than Misplaced Pages Commons, although the latter is such a common misspelling (for obvious reasons) that it is a redirect to the correct name. --Teratornis 15:35, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
search question
I created the page "Whitney Young Birthplace and Museum" a few weeks ago, but when I search for that page it doesn't come up. The only way I can get to that page is through the link I made on the "Whitney Young" page. Please help!
J00zweig 14:57, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- Whitney Young Birthplace and Museum shows up as a link, so if it does not appear in Misplaced Pages's oft-maligned search feature, that probably means the search index updating job is lagging several weeks behind the new article creation. In the meantime, you can use Google Search on Misplaced Pages, which does find the article. --Teratornis 15:02, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Editing an entry
Hello, As a user, am I allowed to edit an entry. If not, I would like to suggest revision of one. Thanks for your help, LoriBooBoo 15:22, 27 June 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by LoriBooBoo (talk • contribs)
- Yes, please feel free to edit. Even anonymous users may edit. I've posted some tips at User_talk:LoriBooBoo (your talk page) to help you get started. Welcome :-) Sancho 15:26, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, you are allowed to edit nearly any page, except for a few that may be semi-protected from editing by IPs and new users due to vandalism (you'll be able to edit those once your account is 5 days old), and an even smaller set that are protected from editing by anyone but administrators, like the Main page and a few other ones where editing them incorrectly might break the entire website. --tjstrf talk 15:29, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- See Help:Editing to learn how to edit. While you are still new, you may wish to suggest changes rather than make them yourself, particularly if you want to remove existing content. On Misplaced Pages, every article has an associated talk page where we can discuss changes to articles before we actually make them. This is useful for finding consensus and avoiding edit wars, and also to act as a sanity check on any one person's thinking. If something looks wrong to you, it's good to ask other people what they think. On Misplaced Pages we have plenty of time to make sure we get things right (see WP:CHILL and WP:TIND). --Teratornis 15:45, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, you are allowed to edit nearly any page, except for a few that may be semi-protected from editing by IPs and new users due to vandalism (you'll be able to edit those once your account is 5 days old), and an even smaller set that are protected from editing by anyone but administrators, like the Main page and a few other ones where editing them incorrectly might break the entire website. --tjstrf talk 15:29, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Starting a new page
Martha Stewart Flowers was hoping to have their own Misplaced Pages page and I was wondering what the best way was to start a page. We are listed on the Martha Stewart Omnimedia page and would like to have a separate page that goes further into detail about the business. If someone could assist me I would greatly appreciate it.
Thank you,
Heidi Jessop
Heidijessop 16:04, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- If you are closely associated with this business, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against creating an article about it- if it is truly a notable organization, someone who doesn't work for the business will inevitably create the article, but if it does not meet our notability guidelines, it will be deleted almost immediately. -FisherQueen (Talk) 16:07, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
EGEE
Dear Help Desk,
My name is Sy Holsinger and I work on the EGEE project. I was searching EGEE and after reading and skimming to the bottom, I saw the external link to the EGEE website. It is incorrectly liked as it currently stands "http://eu-egee.org" it should be "http://www.eu-egee.org". I would appreciate you rectifying this on behalf of the entire project.
Sincerely,
Sy Holsinger
- Fixed. You can always help out and make changes to an article by editing it the same way you did this page. --Hetar 16:30, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Special:listusers
Is there a way to transclude that page with a limmited number of entires. When I try it gives me this:
(first | last) View (previous 50 | next 50) (20 | 50 | 100 | 250 | 500)- 1 talk contribs
- 1 & Only VJ talk contribs
- 1 & only Sharee talk contribs
- 1 (New York City Subway service) talk contribs (blocked)
- 1 + 1 = 2(its true) talk contribs
- 1 + 2 x 8 talk contribs
- 1 - ACE - 1 talk contribs
- 1 - Sultan Of The World talk contribs
- 1 -R0ky talk contribs
- 1 . peppa pig . 2 talk contribs
- 1 000 000 Flying Turkeys talk contribs
- 1 0liv14 1 talk contribs
- 1 0merkland talk contribs
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- 1 1 1safari talk contribs (blocked)
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-Icewedge 16:32, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- If you just type in the first few letters of a username into the search box, it should work. I'm not sure why it's not working for you. Shalom 02:38, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Changing the name of a page to one already used - ReGenesis
The page for the UK Genesis tribute band ReGenesis is named Re-Genesis. The dash is incorrect, and probably stems from the original author taking it from the band website www.re-genesis.net, which is only like that because someone else got to www.regenesis.net first.
If I move the page from Re-Genesis to ReGenesis (band) will a disambiguation page be created automatically to distinguish it from Regenesis the TV show?
Are their any other complications / things I need to be aware of if I move this?
- When you move a page it will automaticaly be redirected to the page after the move. It seems acceptable given the titles to leave it like that. -Icewedge 16:42, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- No, a disambiguation page will not be automatically created. Read up on Misplaced Pages:Disambiguation. If there are only two pages with same title, hatnotes would be best. — Shinhan < talk > 08:03, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- Before creating the article, please read WP:BAND to see if the band meets Misplaced Pages's musician notability guideline. Corvus cornix 20:43, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Miami Museum of Science & Planetarium Update
I am trying to change the name of the Museum from Miami Museum of Science & Planetarium to Miami Science Museum. The text in the body is editable but I need to change the title/Museum name. Is this possible?
http://en.wikipedia.org/Miami_Museum_of_Science_&_Planetarium
199.227.86.10 16:40, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- Only registered users whose accounts are 4 days old or more can rename pages. -- Kesh 17:03, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
License question
I've noticed a PNG image that I want to convert to a SVG version. The PNG version is licensed as GFDL. Am I correct in assuming that since this is a derivative work, I also have to make it GFDL? I'm asking because someone else made a worse quality SVG version (text saved as paths and so small as to be hard to read) on Commons and marked it as PD (which is also my preferred license). --Pekaje 20:02, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, it needs to be GFDL since it's a derivative. (Aren't images usually GFDL/CC though?) That doesn't prevent you from trying to contact the original uploader to modify his license though. --tjstrf talk 20:16, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- Supposedly I could also re-tag the image as GFDL (which is also a perfectly acceptable license for me) after I upload the updated version, right? I mean, I'm not actually basing my version on the PD SVG (since it's in poor quality), but rather making a new version with the same name (so I don't have to change it in many different wikis). --Pekaje 20:37, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- I see no reason you couldn't do that, it seems reasonable enough. That's really a question for the guys over at commons though, since they might want to delete the previous revisions after you update it. --tjstrf talk 20:43, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- OK, I'll see if I can get their opinion on it. Thanks for the input, though. --Pekaje 20:50, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- I see no reason you couldn't do that, it seems reasonable enough. That's really a question for the guys over at commons though, since they might want to delete the previous revisions after you update it. --tjstrf talk 20:43, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- Supposedly I could also re-tag the image as GFDL (which is also a perfectly acceptable license for me) after I upload the updated version, right? I mean, I'm not actually basing my version on the PD SVG (since it's in poor quality), but rather making a new version with the same name (so I don't have to change it in many different wikis). --Pekaje 20:37, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Uploading a photograph with permission
I have permission to use a photograph in an article, and I thought I uploaded it but it hasn't shown up on te article. Please advise. Thanks.
article: David Bottoms picture: http://www2.gsu.edu/~wwwvil/images/2003/1202/davidbottoms.jpg
- You have uploaded the image (Image:Davidbottoms.jpg), however simply uploading it will not automatically place it in the correct article. You must manually put it in the article with a code like this: ].
- Also, simply claiming you have permission is not enough. If you are not the photographer than you need written permision from the photographer. If you already have permission, as you say, than see Misplaced Pages:Requesting copyright permission#When permission is confirmed to find out what to do next. --Yarnalgo talk to me 21:48, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Deleting my account
How do I delete my account?
- You don't. But you can, of course, stop using it at any time. Friday (talk) 21:04, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
But i want it gone.
- Just don't touch it, and it won't hurt you. Friday (talk) 21:08, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
yeah, but you don't know that. I want no trace of this left
- Accounts with contributions cannot be deleted since this would allow another user to create the account, and claim authorship of those edits. It is not possible for your edits to be removed entirely; for this reason, removing the account would potentially violate copyrights by allowing for such authorship claims. You can, of course, delete your own user pages. For more information, check out Misplaced Pages:User page#How do I delete my user and user talk pages?. --Hetar 21:18, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- See also m:Right to vanish. -- Kesh 21:43, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- You can also get yourself renamed and have all your old stuff deleted and also, don't leave any trails for anyone to follow. --70.233.167.83 21:53, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Error
I got this while changing my password:
= Internal error = Invalid NULL return from broken hook logPrefsPassword Backtrace: #0 /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/SpecialPreferences.php(214): wfRunHooks('PrefsPasswordAu...', Array) #1 /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/SpecialPreferences.php(117): PreferencesForm->savePreferences() #2 /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/SpecialPreferences.php(14): PreferencesForm->execute() #3 /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/SpecialPage.php(653): wfSpecialPreferences(NULL, Object(SpecialPage)) #4 /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/SpecialPage.php(459): SpecialPage->execute(NULL) #5 /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/Wiki.php(203): SpecialPage::executePath(Object(Title)) #6 /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/Wiki.php(45): MediaWiki->initializeSpecialCases(Object(Title), Object(OutputPage), Object(WebRequest)) #7 /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/index.php(89): MediaWiki->initialize(Object(Title), Object(OutputPage), Object(User), Object(WebRequest)) #8 /usr/local/apache/common-local/live-1.5/index.php(3): require('/usr/local/apac...') #9 {main}
Any reason as to why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Razorclaw (talk • contribs) 21:33, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Searching the help namespace
I'm trying to figure out if there's an easier way to search the Help namespace, (not for me, I know where most things are by now) but for the noobs. It'd be great if there was an easy/obvious way to search just the Help namespace. The closest I can come is linking to something like this. But even this only works if the person knows to use the search field below the tick boxes. Is there some easier way to search just the Help namespace, without having to run a different search first? --JayHenry 22:32, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- Yes. You can use Google Search, specifically a custom Google Search. Here are some examples:
- Here's a sample search of the Help: namespace for the keyword "search". I collect useful searches on my user page: User:Teratornis#Useful searches. I like Google Search better than Misplaced Pages's built-in search most of the time, because Google tolerates spelling errors and verb tenses and so on. And Google has true phrase searching. --Teratornis 01:56, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- That's a good non-wikipedia solution. Does anyone know if there's a way to link to a Help:Namespace search within Misplaced Pages? --JayHenry 03:42, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- like this? I just took your search and removed the actual term you were searching for... — Shinhan < talk > 07:59, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- You would think so. But if you actually try to search in that box, you'll see that all the results are main space. --JayHenry 13:42, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Where do people come from moving into Frankfort, Illinois67.167.250.59 22:36, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
I am looking to find if there is any report of people who move into Frankfort, Illinois. I am looking to see if there a specific place most new residences come from. For instance lets say 20% of all residents come from Mokena, Il. I do not know it such a thing exsits, but if does I sure would like to know where and how to find it. Thanks
- This is the Help desk which for questions about how to edit and use Misplaced Pages. For general knowledge or research questions such as yours, please see the Reference desk. Dismas| 22:49, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
June 28
Question about admins
I know adminship is no big deal and all, but being an admin is about the same as being a normal member, only with special abilities right? You don't have to pay anything or something? Cheers, JetLover 00:12, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- Correct. Prodego 00:14, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- The only money[REDACTED] takes in from editors are voluntary contributions. Admins are normal editors who have gone through a vetting process called Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship where it is determined if the community is able to trust the candidate with the admin rights. --rogerd 00:17, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- You can see more about their abilities at Misplaced Pages:Administrators which says they don't get paid. Your question is the first mention I have ever seen of the possibility that they might have to pay. It's possible for anybody to donate to the Wikimedia Foundation which runs Misplaced Pages, but it's voluntary and doesn't give any special rights. PrimeHunter 00:32, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Question about Becoming an Admin
Based on my observations at WP:RFA, I know there is more to be considered when applying for adminship than just editcounts, but how many edits would you recommend before applying to avoid being completely shot down by, "Oppose. Too few edits" and "Oppose. Not enough experience."? Useight 00:26, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- A couple thousand is enough to stop the opposes due to too few edits, but if you want to actually pass (rather than get a no consensus defaulting to fail) you'll want more like four thousand. Three might work if a lot of them were in the Misplaced Pages namespace though. Sort of ridiculous, I agree. --tjstrf talk 00:30, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Beleive it or not, I was reccomended to run for an admin recently. I declined and all, but I'd say I few thousand edits. Like 5000+. Cheers, JetLover 00:32, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Two columns/numbered lists
The article 1001 Books You Must Read Before You Die has some big-time formatting issues. What would be the best way to handle 2-column text that flows and balances? Just leave it be or is there a better template? How about the numbered lists? The numbering should be continuous throughout. I'm guessing that at the least, we need to re-start numbering at each section... how would that be done?
- Remove all the multi column code in place and add
<div style="column-count:2; -moz-column-count:2;">
above the list and</div>
below it. That will do it. Prodego 01:15, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
How do you add coordinates?
I recently wanted to add the coordinates (degrees-minutes-seconds system) to four articles (Buena High School, Ventura High School, Foothill Technology High School, and Ventura College; I am a resident of Ventura, California) but I did not know what to do on the edit page. If it helps, I am not a member of Wikimedia. How do I do this (or can I)? 69.230.221.26 01:12, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- Coordinates can for example be added with {{Coord}} but doing it for a local thing like a high school may be a bit much, and {{High School Infobox}} does not have a coordinate field. PrimeHunter 01:35, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- Adding coordinates helps people who browse Misplaced Pages from Google Earth. Eventually when everybody has a mobile computing device with a built-in GPS, it will be nice if every article that is about a geographic location has coordinates, so you can ask your mobile computing device to display a map with links to all the Misplaced Pages articles about things around you. Hopefully this computing model will extend to other wikis which accept articles about less notable topics than Misplaced Pages does. That way, you will be able to browse a very dense geographic database of wiki pages that will probably tell you useful things about just about every object, building, road, park, natural feature, etc., around you. Topics that aren't notable enough for Misplaced Pages may be notable enough for a few hundred local residents of a particular locale, or even a few dozen. People might as well document everything about their environment which is useful for other residents and visitors to know. Much of that information is scattered around the World Wide Web anyway, but not in a structured way for geographic browsing. To learn more about coordinates in Misplaced Pages, see: User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Misplaced Pages#Map. --Teratornis 01:47, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- Is there a guideline about when to add coordinates? Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style (dates and numbers)#Geographical coordinates does not say when and the examples there are far from schools: Airports, Cities, Islands, Mountains. Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Geographical coordinates#Goals does include: "5. Create a database of points, enabling generation of navigatable maps with a clickable icon appearing for every location for which there is a Misplaced Pages article". But it's not a guideline and the page also says things like "This is a concept currently under development, so this is subject to change". And it's not specified what is included in "location". Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Geographical coordinates#type:T mostly lists geographical features but includes "landmark: Cultural landmark, building of special interest, tourist attraction and other points of interest." It's unclear to me whether an ordinary high school is a "landmark". The example in Category:Coordinates templates is New York City Hall which says it's a U.S. National Historic Landmark. PrimeHunter 03:47, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- The phrase "every location for which there is a Misplaced Pages article" sounds pretty clear to me. A fixed object's location is one of its characterizing features, similar to other characterizing features such as the birth and death dates of a person. We do not specify certain classes of people to have their birth and death dates censored. That's a characterizing feature you want to know about every object (in that case, a person) who has a Misplaced Pages article. You could, for example, pick a date range and look up all the Misplaced Pages articles about people born during that time. You would want such a list to be complete. It should not be missing classes of people whose birth dates we decided to censor from the list. That wouldn't stop anyone from constructing such a list by other means.
- I'm wondering what would be the point of constructing a geographic wiki if it's going to have arbitrary gaps in the data, i.e., what sort of argument could be made to cripple its usefulness by partially censoring geographic data. (We can't really censor location data, because it's mostly already available, even more available than birth records actually, because it's as easy for Wikipedians to record locations of accessible fixed objects with their GPS receivers as it is easy for them to photograph the objects with their cameras.) The idea is to have another way to sort articles - by location. When we look at Special:Allpages now, we expect to see all articles sorted by title. We don't need specific reasons to include this or that type of article on Special:Allpages; instead, we would need an overwhelming reason to consider excluding some articles. Similarly, on a geographic wiki, we expect to see all the articles that can be arranged by location to be arranged by location. There are many obvious and not-so-obvious uses for articles arranged on maps. We can quickly see which parts of the world have the most article coverage; that could be another way to allocate our editing efforts (for example, if we see that a particular populated region currently has few articles, or few articles of high quality). We can see where things are in relation to our locations, and in relation to each other. Someone might want to compare the geographic distribution of schools to prisons, or chemical plants, or flood zones, or residential areas, or all sorts of things people currently do with GIS software. Trying to impose artificial limits on the potential uses of an encyclopedia is like trying to impose artificial limits on the uses of a mathematical formula. It doesn't fit with Misplaced Pages's position against censorship. Besides, people will find ways around the limitations. As more computing devices gain GPS features, more people will expect their data to be geographically-enabled. Misplaced Pages can either lead the way, or wait for Google or someone else to do it. Of course this is only my opinion. If the cabal or the Great Leader says we must try to censor some location data, then we will try to censor it. --Teratornis 07:10, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- If it's considered good to add coordinates to everything with a fixed position then I think it should get more attention than minor mention in a goal in a Wikiproject which is much more about how-to than when-to. Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Schools#Sections of the article says "Give the full official name of the school and detail about its location (town/municipality, county/state/province, country)." Coordinates are not mentioned, and as said above they are not an option in {{High School Infobox}}. My original thoughts included that high schools are only of local interest, the locals know where they are, and they are in towns which should have an article with coordinates, but you have some good points about uses for the data. Is there any limit to what should get coordinates? Both White House and Oval Office have them, but currently not West Wing which contains the Oval Office. What about fixed statues in buildings which have articles with coordinates? But the help desk is probably not the place to discuss all this. If you feel for it then you could join Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Geographical coordinates and discuss spreading the word. PrimeHunter 13:29, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- Is there a guideline about when to add coordinates? Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style (dates and numbers)#Geographical coordinates does not say when and the examples there are far from schools: Airports, Cities, Islands, Mountains. Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Geographical coordinates#Goals does include: "5. Create a database of points, enabling generation of navigatable maps with a clickable icon appearing for every location for which there is a Misplaced Pages article". But it's not a guideline and the page also says things like "This is a concept currently under development, so this is subject to change". And it's not specified what is included in "location". Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Geographical coordinates#type:T mostly lists geographical features but includes "landmark: Cultural landmark, building of special interest, tourist attraction and other points of interest." It's unclear to me whether an ordinary high school is a "landmark". The example in Category:Coordinates templates is New York City Hall which says it's a U.S. National Historic Landmark. PrimeHunter 03:47, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- Adding coordinates helps people who browse Misplaced Pages from Google Earth. Eventually when everybody has a mobile computing device with a built-in GPS, it will be nice if every article that is about a geographic location has coordinates, so you can ask your mobile computing device to display a map with links to all the Misplaced Pages articles about things around you. Hopefully this computing model will extend to other wikis which accept articles about less notable topics than Misplaced Pages does. That way, you will be able to browse a very dense geographic database of wiki pages that will probably tell you useful things about just about every object, building, road, park, natural feature, etc., around you. Topics that aren't notable enough for Misplaced Pages may be notable enough for a few hundred local residents of a particular locale, or even a few dozen. People might as well document everything about their environment which is useful for other residents and visitors to know. Much of that information is scattered around the World Wide Web anyway, but not in a structured way for geographic browsing. To learn more about coordinates in Misplaced Pages, see: User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Misplaced Pages#Map. --Teratornis 01:47, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Data
Hi — Preceding unsigned comment added by P559ieatapig (talk)
- Hi. Do you have a question? PrimeHunter 01:39, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- If the question is about data, lots of data is available here: WP:DUMP. --Teratornis 01:48, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
neé vs. "born as" vs. maiden name
Which is the preferred style on Misplaced Pages? ++Arx Fortis 03:47, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- Per Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style (biographies)#Maiden names, there doesn't seem to be a preferred style, as the page itself references several different methods. I myself prefer "born", as I feel the general reader will understand that best. tiZom(2¢) 04:00, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
User Template Align Right
How do i align my User Template to the right?
For example, I have {{User IND Citiz}} on my User page. But it is on the left. How do i align it on the right?
--Sudhakar2310 05:05, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- To align anything to the right, you can use the following formatting:
<div style="float:right"> whatever you want to align to the right </div>(like this, for instance; border added for clarity).
- If you want to 'float' multiple userboxes to the right, putting them all inside one div and separating them with the {{-}} template is likely to produce the best results. Hope that helps! --ais523 09:00, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
speedily deletion
who is warthog & immediately after creating my account I am flagged for speedily deletion. Comparing other users i think I should have the time to understand wikipedias regulations, so to speak. LASERDOGTHEBIGDOG. aTTEMPING TO EXPLAIN THE TERM LASERDOG AND IT'S RELATED "DOGS"
Article-only watchlisting
There are some articles I'm interested in that have very noisy Talk pages, and I'd rather just watchlist the article than all the bickering. Is it possible to do such a thing, or do we always have to watch the article's Talk too? Thanks. Raymond Arritt 05:17, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- If you want to exclude all talk pages from your watchlist you can go to the bottom of this line
Below are the last 20 changes, as of 06:38, 28 June 2007.
Show last 1 | 2 | 6 | 12 hours 1 | 3 | 7 days all
Hide bot edits | Hide my edits | Hide minor edits
Namespace:
- where there is a droplist that automatically says all and a button that says Go next to it. Select (main) to hide talk pages. Tim Q. Wells 06:46, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
speedy deletion
If you google my trade name wiki shows a listing but it is not there. I am attempting to inform people of the world the origin of the term and it's other conotations. So I should not be flagged BY WARTHOG for speedy deletion until my page is fully explained and worded. LASERDOGTHEBIGDOG
Misplaced Pages account in several languages
I have an account with[REDACTED] which I registered for by en.wikipedia.org . Why can't I log in on the Dutch[REDACTED] with the same login? Are there seperate databases for the seperate languages? Do I have to make a new account on the Dutch page? I can my account be easily copied? Wild Wizard 06:38, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- You have to create a new account for each wiki. They are seperate databases- this is why we provide interwiki links to other projects. Also keep in mind that admins on one language's[REDACTED] are powerless on another, which also applies to dispute resolution processes. --ʇuǝɯɯoɔɐqǝɟ 06:42, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- Also, check out Help:Unified login for the latest progress towards one of the longest-standing requests. - BanyanTree 02:00, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Error changing e-mail address
I want to change my e-mail address, but when I click save I get an elaborate error:
Internal error Invalid NULL return from broken hook logPrefsEmail
Backtrace:
- 0 /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/SpecialPreferences.php(336): wfRunHooks('PrefsEmailAudit', Array)
- 1 /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/SpecialPreferences.php(117): PreferencesForm->savePreferences()
- 2 /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/SpecialPreferences.php(14): PreferencesForm->execute()
- 3 /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/SpecialPage.php(653): wfSpecialPreferences(NULL, Object(SpecialPage))
- 4 /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/SpecialPage.php(459): SpecialPage->execute(NULL)
- 5 /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/Wiki.php(203): SpecialPage::executePath(Object(Title))
- 6 /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/Wiki.php(45): MediaWiki->initializeSpecialCases(Object(Title), Object(OutputPage), Object(WebRequest))
- 7 /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/index.php(89): MediaWiki->initialize(Object(Title), Object(OutputPage), Object(User), Object(WebRequest))
- 8 /usr/local/apache/common-local/live-1.5/index.php(3): require('/usr/local/apac...')
- 9 {main}
Then I do receive a confirmation e-mail with a clickable link, but when I click it I get the message
Invalid confirmation code. The code may have expired.
While I click it immediately after receiving the mail.
Help? :(
- This is a bug that has been reported to developers (see bugzilla:10388). They're presumably trying to fix it at the moment. --ais523 08:55, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Cite Errors
how do I use a journal reference several times in a text, without having to type it all over again and get a new reference number? Yes I have given it a <ref name="etc", but what do I put in the edit to refer again to the same ref?Jagra 07:15, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- Just put the <ref name="etc"/> and thats it. — Shinhan < talk > 07:51, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Can deleted pictures be viewed?
Can deleted pictures be viewed by admins in the same way that deleted articles can? --ʇuǝɯɯoɔɐqǝɟ 07:52, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, they can. Anything that is deleted on Misplaced Pages can be restored (only a few exceptions), and so admins can preview what they are restoring before actually restoring it. +spebi ~ 08:56, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- On a side note, deleted images were lost forever for the first few years of the site until a software upgrade in late 2005. See related Signpost article. - BanyanTree 02:08, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Need help archiving
Could someone take a look at User Talk:Feba and straighten out my archiving system into something more logical for me? I'm not quite sure how to do it, I'd prefer is someone else could just set it up for me. Thanks, --ʇuǝɯɯoɔɐqǝɟ 08:33, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- I've fixed your archive system – see my reply on your talk page. +spebi ~ 08:46, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
I want to use same login account to edit/ publish articles in two different languages
Dear Friends,
I want to use same login account to edit/ publish articles in two different languages i.e. in Sinhala and English. I have already an account for edit sinhala pages. But I cant edit english pages using the same account. If I have to use two different accounts, it will be little bit difficult to handle things. Also I want to upload or publish or place video files. How can I do it?
Prabath. My E_mail: (email removed for security purposes)
- You've just made the most requested feature request in the history of Misplaced Pages: see bugzilla:57 (it's proving quite hard to implement). In the meantime, you'll have to create separate accounts; if and when that bug is ever fixed, it'll help if you use the same username and email address on each account. --ais523 09:16, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- As for your followup question; see the file upload wizard. If you want to upload media under a free use licence, you may want to upload it to Misplaced Pages's sister project Wikimedia Commons, where all the different language versions of Misplaced Pages can include images from. --ais523 09:20, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- I have tried to make account in English with same user name "Prabath" but unfortunately there seems another user with that name.
- If another user's using exactly the same name, you'll have to choose a different one. User:Prabath has no edits, so there's also the possibility of asking for the username to be usurped, but this is a slow process that's normally rejected for new contributors, and you'd have to have a different username meanwhile anyway. (If you want a name that's similar but not quite the same as an existing username, see WP:ACC.) --ais523 10:45, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Wanna Page Hit counter ...
Dear Misplaced Pages Group,
I request you ("if possible") to please add a page hit counter.
Want to know where the world is heading.
Regards, Vicky —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 125.17.142.34 (talk • contribs).
- Hi Vicky and welcome to Misplaced Pages. Unfortunately, hit counters on Misplaced Pages have been disabled, due to them affecting server performance. However, there is a list on the the Top 10 most visited Misplaced Pages articles, but I cannot track down the exact URL. +spebi ~ 10:17, 28 June 2007 (UTC) someone help me out here?
- Special:Statistics has a top 100 chart... er it seems to be broken now but it usually works. Top of the list is normally Main Page (duh!), Wiki and Misplaced Pages, then whatever is in the news (was Spiderman 3 a month or two ago when I last looked), and of course List of sex positions. --h2g2bob (talk) 11:55, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
cars
where and when did car racing start? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 122.163.92.158 (talk) 10:28, 28 June 2007
- See Auto racing#History. In the future, please use Reference Desk for knowledge question. Jacek Kendysz 10:43, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
animal
which runs fast, a cat or a squirrel?
- Try asking at WP:RD/S --h2g2bob (talk) 11:49, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Problem changing my password
I enter the preferences menu then I enter my old password then th new one two times then save and...
Internal error Invalid NULL return from broken hook logPrefsPassword
Backtrace:
- 0 /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/SpecialPreferences.php(227): wfRunHooks('PrefsPasswordAu...', Array)
- 1 /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/SpecialPreferences.php(117): PreferencesForm->savePreferences()
- 2 /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/SpecialPreferences.php(14): PreferencesForm->execute()
- 3 /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/SpecialPage.php(653): wfSpecialPreferences(NULL, Object(SpecialPage))
- 4 /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/SpecialPage.php(459): SpecialPage->execute(NULL)
- 5 /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/Wiki.php(203): SpecialPage::executePath(Object(Title))
- 6 /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/Wiki.php(45): MediaWiki->initializeSpecialCases(Object(Title), Object(OutputPage), Object(WebRequest))
- 7 /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/index.php(89): MediaWiki->initialize(Object(Title), Object(OutputPage), Object(User), Object(WebRequest))
- 8 /usr/local/apache/common-local/live-1.5/index.php(3): require('/usr/local/apac...')
- 9 {main}
Peterroumian 11:08, 28 June 2007 (UTC) preterroumian
I believe that there is a bug that causes the problem. There is a section somewhere above, it explains better. -Zacharycrimsonwolf 13:32, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- Its here. Take a look. I think it may be the same bug that causes problems when you're changing your password or e-mail address. Cheers!!! -Zacharycrimsonwolf 13:40, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- It was first asked here. That user didn't get any answer... 70.233.167.83 16:29, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Ursula Andress Talk Page
More than a month ago, I made a proposal on the Ursula Andress talk page to remove the Infobox photo on the article page.
Not one person has bothered to add a comment.
As nobody has disagreed with me, can I, therefore, go ahead and remove the photo ?
87.243.196.167 11:14, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- Image:Consensus_new_and_old.svg
- Usually, yes, unless there has already been a number of discussions on the past over it, WP:CONSENSUS does change over time, and if nobody objects, it's safe to change something. See the image on the right side of this section for a good example of how to proceed when you're not sure what the community wants. --ʇuǝɯɯoɔɐqǝɟ 11:33, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- I'd say Yes. Any responses would happen within about a week - after that just go ahead. In fact, for most things just go ahead and fix it - if someone disagrees they can easily revert and discuss --h2g2bob (talk) 11:34, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- One month is nothing - some articles haven't been edited since 2004 :-) You might like to get yourself an account - it's free! --h2g2bob (talk) 11:46, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- And that page hasn't been updated since December 2006! All articles I examined had edits since then. PrimeHunter 14:05, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- And PrimeHunter, could you please explain what makes you think the page hasn't been updated since 2006? Corvus cornix 17:17, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- "That page" referred to the just linked Special:Ancientpages with a piped link that said it listed articles that "haven't been edited since 2004". However, Special:Ancientpages says "last updated 04:54, 29 December 2006", and the listed articles have been updated in 2007. PrimeHunter 03:33, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
- And PrimeHunter, could you please explain what makes you think the page hasn't been updated since 2006? Corvus cornix 17:17, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- And that page hasn't been updated since December 2006! All articles I examined had edits since then. PrimeHunter 14:05, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
I've restored the image. The anon removed it because they felt it showed her as she looks today. So? Misplaced Pages is not censored, his apparent disgust with her "haggard and old" is ageist. The image is available for use, there's nothing wrong with it, they didn't replace it with a different image. Corvus cornix 17:15, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Can I delete the search history
How can I delete the search history? Everything I ever typed appears in a list underneath the search bar, even though I have cleared the explorer tools files. 84.64.223.91 14:02, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- This is something that would be specific to whatever browser you are using. You could try clearing your cache, but also you can hover over the things you want to delete, and just hit the delete key. I know this trick works in Firefox, but I'm not sure if it will work on your browser. tiZom(2¢) 15:54, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Mukwonago
I am writing only to let you know that I believe the River in Mukwonago, Wisconsin is a part of the Fox River. I lived in Mukwonago for 30 years and I do not remember it being called the Mukwonago River. Could someone check this please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Monroek (talk • contribs)
- Well, this is a wiki, so you could certainly edit it yourself if you feel something is wrong. To be honest, none of us here are more qualified than any other editor to do such fact checks. In fact, having lived there, you've probably got access to more resources than we do.
- If you don't want to edit the article yourself, then just ask your question on the article's talk page, and someone who is interested/knowledgeable of that subject will eventually be by to take care of it. tiZom(2¢) 15:54, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Ophone
Is the article oPhone approiate for wikipedia? Thedjatclubrock :) (talk) 14:51, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- Well, my answer is "no", since it looks like nonsense. I've tagged it for speedy deletion. Charlie-talk to me-what I've done 15:24, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
History
Can you see the history of a deleted article?
- No, not unless you are a sysop. —« ANIMUM » 15:40, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Trapped in glitchy skin
I'm trapped in Chick and I can't get out. This is a seriously irritating skin, and I don't seem to be able to select or click some things, including the option to change the skin back! Using tab I can get to the 'change skin' page, but nothing I do will let me select the circle for anything other than Chick! Help! Skittle 15:58, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- Use this link to change your skin back: http://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Preferences?useskin=monobook. (It loads your preferences with a skin override set to Monobook, where you can save the skin change and make it permanent.) --ais523 15:59, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you sooooo much :-D Is that link available because this is a common problem, or do you just have a technique for making such things? Skittle 16:09, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- I think the skin override is most likely to have been implemented for seeing what pages look like in various skins (it's how the preview links work on the preferences), but I don't know this for sure and it's certainly handy for changing back from skins. I do know that that particular link (or possibly a slight variation on it that does the same thing) is in the FAQ at the top of the technical Village Pump, although I'm not sure if it's in the main FAQ, so presumably it's a common problem but people normally go there rather than to the Help Desk to seek a solution. --ais523 16:14, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- Ah, I see. The FAQ didn't appear to be working, somehow, when I looked, and the preview links don't stick if you navigate away from the main page! But it's good to know there are measures in place. I thought I remembered hearing about a similar problem a while ago. That's one link that'll end up on my user page for future use! Thanks ais. Skittle 16:24, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
23 September 2012
What is expected to happen on September 23, 2012? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 130.76.64.93 (talk)
- There seems to be no relevant information in the relevant article 2012. You might want to try asking at the reference desk; this help desk is for questions about Misplaced Pages, not general knowledge questions. --ais523 16:15, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- I plan on lunch at least.--Alf 16:16, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- Well it's a few months before the end of the world, so I'd assume we'll be panicking, staring up at the moon, and quietly muttering "Three months..." over and over to ourselves. I could of course be wrong. --ʇuǝɯɯoɔɐqǝɟ 16:29, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- I plan on lunch at least.--Alf 16:16, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- Try Google. One of the hits says Xu Zerong is due to be released from Guangzhou Prison on September 23, 2012. Maybe he is notable enough for an article which should then discuss his case and expected early release (but I'm not going to write it). PrimeHunter 23:44, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
How do I report a user?
User Yankees10 continues to change the team colors for Dave Winfield when the[REDACTED] community had already agreed that he should be shown as a San Diego Padre based on the body of his career and his Hall of Fame cap. How do we get this user to stop making these changes?
- If he is actually breaking policy, you can report it one of two ways. If it's simple and obvious WP:VANDALism, then take it to WP:AIV and let them deal with it. If it's a disagreement, or something more complex, which is what this seems to be, bring it up at WP:ANI, which will let experienced users and admins comment on it and warn/block the user if needed --ʇuǝɯɯoɔɐqǝɟ 16:26, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
The community never voted on what color to use for his infobox, that was only Reggie Jackson, and Jeff Nelson, he is making it only his decision on what color to use, and it is the same situation with Gary Carter, he has a Expos cap on his Hall of fame plaque, and has Mets colors on his Infobox. Hee clearly doesnt know what hes doing because he doesnt sign his name at the end.--Yankees10 16:31, 28 June 2007 (UTC)Yankees10
This guy clearly doesnt like the Yankees, because he changed all the infoboxes that had Yankee colors to other colors, even when they spent most of there time with the Yankees, If theres anyone that needs to be blocked its him--Yankees10 16:43, 28 June 2007 (UTC)Yankees10
- Please, this isn't the place for dispute resolution. See Misplaced Pages:Dispute resolution, or contact the administrators' incident noticeboard if you think that the other user is being sufficiently disruptive to warrant a block. --ais523 16:47, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Can't create an article
I would like to create an article about a lighting company called "Zero 88". However when I search loads of results come back with the term "zero" in so I can't just click create a page and can't see a link to the non existant page yet.
What can I do!?
- See WP:FIRST, although you should also see WP:N and WP:COI before you create an article about a business --ʇuǝɯɯoɔɐqǝɟ 16:58, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
This still doesn't tell me how to create n rticle
- There's a box to create an article at the top of Help:Creating a new page if you really need it, but a better method is by introducing a link to the nonexistent article in some article it would be relevant from and then clicking on it. (If there is no such article to link from, then creating the article in the first place may be a bad idea.) --ais523 17:29, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- To repeat the advice above, please review Notability before proceeding, as well as Conflict of Interest. Jim Dunning | talk 17:36, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
USA Volleyball Logo
Hello
I looked up the USA Volleyball Logo this morning. The logo was designed by Nonie Beal and myself in 1981 prior to the 1984 Olympics in Los Angeles when the men's team took the gold under the amazing coaching of Doug Beal (the current Executive Director). Is there any way we can both be credited on Wikapedia for the design of the logomark?
Lois Harrington (12:14, June 28, 2007)
- If you're talking about this logo, then an appropriate contribution could be added to the USA Volleyball article. However, a reliable source would have to be provided and cited properly. The information couldn't be added just on your say-so (not questioning your veracity or intentions, that's just WP policy). You may also want to review COI before proceeding. If it looks like this info can be appropriately added, the information will be appreciated. I tried to do the adding myself, but was unable to find a reliable source that supports your statement; hope you have better luck. Jim Dunning | talk 17:34, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Some editing of the attacked article Red army crimes in Lithuania like the whole category Red army crimes articles is needed
Hilfe.
Ttturbo 17:29, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- Can you be more specific about the help you need with editing? Respond here or on my Talk page. I've left a message on your Talk page as well. Jim Dunning | talk 17:41, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- Apparently there's some disagreement among some editors of this article about an AfD process that is ongoing. Ttturbo needs to leave comments at Misplaced Pages:Articles_for_deletion/Red_army_crimes_in_Lithuania instead of just removing the AfD tag. Ttturbo, please review the WP:3RR policy. Jim Dunning | talk 17:52, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
ATTENTION - Some slavians -Mikkalaj, Alex Bakharev, IgorSF, Pavel... and not only they started real attack against the article Red army crimes in Lithuania. (in 1945 March Red Army officer killed my grandmother)
Look at Articles for deletion/Red army crimes in Lithuania discussion.
Who will write the articles - Red army crimes in Afganistan, Red Army crimes in Georgia, Red army crimes in Baku, Red army crimes in Karaganda, Red Army crimes in Praha (or Chechoslovakia), Red army crimes in Budapest( or Hungary), Red army crimes in Germany, Red Army crimes in Ukraina, Red army crimes in Latvia, Red army crimes in Estonia, Red army crimes in Finland, Red army crimes in Chechnia, Red Army crimes in Belorussia, Red Army crimes in Asia republics - Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Kirgistan, Uzbekistan Red army crimes in Poland, GRU crimes? Category - Red army crimes is needed
Ttturbo 23:02, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
How to make redirect from Red army crimes in Ukraina to Red Army crimes in Ukraina?
Ttturbo 01:12, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- This really isn't the place for this, the Help Desk isn't a battlefield--VectorPotential 23:19, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- I don't see anything there that requires the assistance of the Help desk - we deal with problems in using[REDACTED] - we don't take sides in context disputes. --Fredrick day 23:20, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- Note - For editor's awareness, Ttturbo has just edited this section header to include the whole category Red army crimes articles, which is a category he just created. It is disengenuous to claim that Category:Red Army crimes is under attack, when he did not even create it until after the AfD on this article had begun, and smacks of WP:POINT. -- Kesh 01:21, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- I claim that only the article red Army crimes is under attck, not the whole category. You made mistake at a midnight. But why do You started attack against the whole cattegory?Ttturbo 02:27, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- By using the word "like" you imply that the category is also being attacked. I get the impression English is not your native language, so that may be the source of your confusion. And I did not attack the category. All I've done is point out you created it after the AfD began, and made the people here and in AfD aware of that. -- Kesh 02:30, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Ukrainian language searches not using cyrillic alphabet
I know Ukrainian, but am typing froman American PC. How can I download the cyrillic alphabet to coordinate with my english language keys to be able to do search queries on the Ukrainian Wickipedia website?
MOVING AN ARTICLE
I've made (alas) a double redirect and cannot think how to fix it.
The actual article to be redirected to is Nguyễn Hữu Thị Lan NOT Nguyen Huu Thi Lan -- but the latter has popped up as an interim redirect. Can somebody help? I've made all the proper link redirects, to the former name.Kitchawan 18:28, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- If I follow correctly, just change the redirect on the article from Nguyen Huu Thi Lan to Nguyễn Hữu Thị Lan. - Zeibura 18:30, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Removing a redirect (2)
I used List of gas stations as a humorous example of an "indiscriminate list" in an AFD and was shocked to find it was not a redlink. In fact it redirects to List of automotive fuel brands. A "gas station" is a building with pumps out front which dispense fuel, with a building where the attendant collects money and sells soda and snacks, with grubby restrooms, and perhaps with a service bay where mechanics work on cars. It is NOT an "automotive fuel brand." How would I go about removing the redirect? Is it an editing process anyone can do, do I request an admin to do it, or do I somehow propose the redirect for deletion? Was there once actually a List of gas stations which went through AFD and was replaced by this inappropriate redirect? Thanks. Edison 18:40, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- Redirects for discussion is probably what you are looking for. ^^ ZOUAVMAN LE ZOUAVE 18:45, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- It seems that it was the result of a cut and paste pagemove some time in 2003. It's pretty nonsensical as a redirect, so I've gone ahead and tagged it for speedy deletion. --VectorPotential 19:30, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks! Edison 05:22, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Start my own topic
Hello,
How can I start new topic in Wiki?
I would like to write our software manual entirely in Wiki.
- See Help:Creating a new page. -- Kainaw 19:37, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- But if your goal is to create a software manual as a wiki (cool idea!), then you wouldn't be creating it on Misplaced Pages, since it'll get deleted as not being an encyclopedia article. Instead, you'd want to set up a separate wiki for it... see MediaWiki for detailed instructions and software for how to do that. -FisherQueen (Talk) 20:35, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- If you want to use MediaWiki as your personal editor, see mw:Manual:Wiki on a stick. It's fairly simple to install MediaWiki on your own computer, accessible locally from your Web browser. However, to publish your manual so other people can see it, you would need to copy your manual's wiki pages to a public wiki. Setting up and administering your own public wiki is a big job. If you can find an existing wiki which will accept your content, editing on an existing wiki is much easier than setting up a new one. You can search for wikis on WikiIndex. If you are writing a manual for an open-source software project, there are several wikis you can probably use, for example: Free and Open Source Software Wiki. If you are writing a manual for a commercial software project, your company should (probably) set up its own wiki. --Teratornis 23:38, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- But if your goal is to create a software manual as a wiki (cool idea!), then you wouldn't be creating it on Misplaced Pages, since it'll get deleted as not being an encyclopedia article. Instead, you'd want to set up a separate wiki for it... see MediaWiki for detailed instructions and software for how to do that. -FisherQueen (Talk) 20:35, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
article completed but not found on the site
I was logged in and created an article. The article is complete and I'm trying to google search it on[REDACTED] and search within the[REDACTED] site and it's not identified/coming up. Has the article been published and if not how do I complete that process? Kathleen baldwin 19:34, 28 June 2007 (UTC) Kathleen baldwin
- Are you looking for Canadian Association for Laboratory Animal Science? -- Kainaw 19:36, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Deleted Entry:SnapVillage
Hi,
A recent entry was deleted to which was flagged as purely advertising a product/company. To my understanding the entry (SnapVillage) can be 'fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic.'
I read that it was a good idea not to just post again and to ask to be able to repost. Please let me know if this would be ok to rewrite my entry so that it is not promotional and just factual.
thanks, --Snapman1020 20:03, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- Before you try, you should carefully read both WP:ORG and WP:COI. If the company meets the notability criteria, and if you are not personally associated with the company, then you can explain your reasoning at Deletion Review and request that the article be undeleted so you can rewrite it. -FisherQueen (Talk) 20:32, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
How do I delete my account?
I never use my account so, how do I delete it?
Sausageracer 20:18, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- You can't delete accounts, unfortunately. Why do you want to? - Zeibura 20:29, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Article removal request
My[REDACTED] page is being continuously misrepresented and vandalised. I would like to remove my page from the site as I beleive I am being staulked. Can you help me with this?
68.33.118.103 21:07, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- Which page are you talking about? We can't remove it without knowing the name. --tjstrf talk 21:12, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- This IP has tried to completely blank Katherine Hadford several times today. No idea why, or what on the article is a problem for her, or whether she really is Katherine Hadford or not. There seems to be some dispute about whether she is Hungarian or Hungarian-American, and when she started competing internationally, and this IP's contribution to the discussion on the talk page is less than fully civil. -FisherQueen (Talk) 22:02, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- 68.33.118.103, we have no way of knowing who you really are. To fix the page, please present sources (such as newspaper articles, press releases, etc) which back up your claims. Please do this in a civil fashion on Talk:Katherine Hadford, and they will be included. You may alternatively email Misplaced Pages, but it is a lot faster to fix stuff using the talk page. --h2g2bob (talk) 02:44, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Kate's Tool
Whatever happened to Kate's Tool? It was the original and only edit counter for years, but it's now broken. Kevinwong913 21:19, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- Try using wannabe_kate which is a substitute for Kate's Tool which is currently not much used anymore. E 21:42, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- Server replication lag caused it. (If you want to know what that means, please ask someone else as I am not that technically apt. :-) .) —« ANIMUM » 21:42, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Add details
Pls inform me how to add details on a famous law corporation in your web
Porno
How does one get rid of the porno on the History page. When the lines of porno are removed it just shows up again as a revision. I want the porno no where on my site, not in history, no anywhere. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Samgallo (talk • contribs).
- See Help:Page history for information on history pages. History can not be removed without an administrator deleting the page. E 21:44, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- Users with oversight can remove edits from history, but on Misplaced Pages that is only used in special cases as listed on the oversight page. ssepp 21:50, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- This page is for questions about using Misplaced Pages. If by "my site" you mean that you run your own wiki with MediaWiki software then see mw:Extension:Oversight. PrimeHunter 22:46, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
"Create Page" button
I am trying to create a new page, and the tutorial says I need to click on the "Create Page" button. However, I cannot find it. Where is it? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mehubb (talk • contribs) 21:45, 28 June 2007.
- It will be on the page when you go to it if it has not yet been created. Have a read of Misplaced Pages:Creating an article, which may help. E 21:48, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- Except that the creation of new pages is disabled for very new editors. I see you created your account today. You'll have to wait a few days, I'm afraid. In the meantime, feel free to improve existing pages. Happy editing. ElinorD (talk) 21:50, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- Are you sure about that? I thought auto-confirmed only gave you move and upload. Prodego 22:07, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- And to call it a button is a misnomer. It's just a link that says "create this page". Dismas| 22:12, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- The auto-confirmed flag has nothing to do with page creation, any registered user can create a page, however new users will have to fill out a CAPTCHA if their article contains any external links.--VectorPotential 22:17, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- And to call it a button is a misnomer. It's just a link that says "create this page". Dismas| 22:12, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- Are you sure about that? I thought auto-confirmed only gave you move and upload. Prodego 22:07, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- Except that the creation of new pages is disabled for very new editors. I see you created your account today. You'll have to wait a few days, I'm afraid. In the meantime, feel free to improve existing pages. Happy editing. ElinorD (talk) 21:50, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Deleted article with no paper trail
I submitted a short article entitled "Boom Event" and also recommended (because of automated recommendations) that the phrase be put on the Wiktionary, and it appears to have been deleted without a paper trail, audit trail, log, or any reason whatsoever. Please be assured that as an automation industry security expert, industry spokesperson, standards committee(s) voting member, and author of various security white papers and manuals, that this is not a matter that should be taken lightly. I would appreciate an explanation of why the entry disappeared and the rationale for doing so. Richardhclark 22:16, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- According to the deletion log here it was deleted under WP:CSD#A1. ssepp 22:21, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- It seems that it was a definition of the word rather than a real article. It might meet the standards of inclusion on Wiktionary, I'm not sure. ssepp 22:33, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Not seeing how to add a request for editing a page that has been blocked from editing.
I don't see where to make a request how to edit the "Animal Farm," page. It has been restricted from editing, and I did not see how to do this in the FAQ or general instructions. I am sure it is in there somewhere, so it will be perfectly fine if you can direct me to the section for further instruction.
Thank you. -- Vitalymak 22:37, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- It has been semi-protected, see Misplaced Pages:Protection policy. Note that if you edit with an account that is a few (4?) days old you can edit all semi-protected articles directly. ssepp 22:40, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- Although if you'd rather not register an account, you can always use {{editprotected}} on the talk page of the article, and someone else will come along to make the edit for you, although seeing as how you already have an account, you could just wait 4 days and then you'll be able to edit them yourself--VectorPotential 22:44, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Luther Lassiter
I am Luther Lassiter's niece. I read the article you have here, and there are some things that were left out regarding his later years that I think need to be rewritten. If there is anything I can do to help you address this, please let me know. I have read several articles recently that are completely incorrect, and I just want to get it all corrected. Thank you for your help.
Tracy Lassiter Polk
- The best thing to do is to point out those errors on the article's Talk page, along with links/references to publications where we can see the facts for ourselves. Unfortunately, we can't simply take your word for it. We need verifiable sources of information. If there is unsourced information in the article you feel is incorrect, please bring it up on the Talk page and folks will help from there. -- Kesh 00:20, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
June 29
did i do this right
http://en.wikipedia.org/Image:061219_spears_hmed_4p_h2.jpg
I made it no soruce. There was a website link but it was broken--Gustyfalcon 00:27, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- No. Further comments on User talk:Gustyfalcon. Shalom 01:00, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
I didnt upload it--Gustyfalcon 02:32, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Does it cost money to run a Wiki?
I'm just thinking of starting my own... Angry Sun 00:58, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- Potentially. You need a computer to run it from, which can be as simple as your own home computer. If you want to share it with others, then you have to pay for an internet connection and (usually) hosting fees. Most ISPs frown on home users setting up their own servers without paying additional fees. Or, you could use a service that hosts wikis like Wikia. It all depends on how you want to run it. -- Kesh 01:23, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- This question suggests the questioner is very early in what is typically a long learning process to become a wiki administrator. It is possible to start your own wiki on a stick for zero incremental monetary cost (since you probably already have a computer if you can read this, and the software is free), and I recommend that you start by doing that to learn the technology, but if you want other people to see your wiki, somebody will have to pay to host it on the Internet (either you, or some kind of hosting service like Wikia which tries to generate ad revenue). But first, decide whether you really need to start your own wiki. What do you want to write about that isn't already being handled by at least one existing wiki? Search WikiIndex first to see if another wiki is already out there. Many smaller wikis tend to be underused as it is. That is, they need more enthusiasts in their subject areas to contribute. In the meantime, Misplaced Pages deletes thousands of pages per day. Go figure. --Teratornis 19:23, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
potential vandalism?
The user User:12.218.62.240 seems to be a member of the Muller family of Estherville, Iowa, based on his edits. I suspect that his edit on Norman Lear is not based on fact, but I don't want to revert it. Someone want to go through and make some decisions on the notablilty/veracity of his edits? I removed the most recent one, but I'm a bit new here, and I'm not sure if I'm justified in systematically removing all the contributions of a single user. (sorry, forgot to sign) Noliver 00:59, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- Questions like this normally belong on the Conflict of interest noticeboard. Because I have experience working there, I was able to study this case myself. I did need to revert a few edits and leave a message on Talk:Norman Lear asking whether he was born in Estherville (as this IP claims) or in New Haven. I will leave a note on User talk:12.218.62.240. Shalom 01:21, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks, and sorry for posting to the wrong place. Noliver 06:25, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Disputes
What constitutes a dispute? Hallpriest9 (Talk | Archive) 01:35, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- wikt:Dispute. Beyond that, we'd need to know more about what you're referring to. It's a bit of a vague question. -- Kesh 01:41, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- On Misplaced Pages? Usually it means a disagreement between editors that isn't quickly resolved by a brief discussion. (I suppose it technically applies to the ones that are resolved by a brief discussion as well, but nobody really talks about those to other people and they're usually more like misunderstandings.) You may be wanting the link to Misplaced Pages:Dispute resolution here. --tjstrf talk 01:44, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- Does this mean a disagreement with respect to a fact, a style/format, or something different? Hallpriest9 (Talk | Archive) 00:05, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
- On Misplaced Pages? Usually it means a disagreement between editors that isn't quickly resolved by a brief discussion. (I suppose it technically applies to the ones that are resolved by a brief discussion as well, but nobody really talks about those to other people and they're usually more like misunderstandings.) You may be wanting the link to Misplaced Pages:Dispute resolution here. --tjstrf talk 01:44, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Citing Repeats
I want to use the same reference several times in a text, how do I write the edit to acheive this without having to repeat all the data and end up with two identical references with seperate numbers? Yes I have given them a ref name="pmidxxxxx" show me what to type in edit for the second refJagra 02:34, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- For the second ref, just type <ref name="exampleref" /> --tjstrf talk 02:35, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- That should be <ref name="exampleref"/> with / at the end. See Misplaced Pages:Footnotes#Citing a footnote more than once. PrimeHunter 02:49, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- Right you are. Fixed. --tjstrf talk 02:59, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks my error has been in using "pmid 123456" ie a number in the name and this will return a Cite ErrorJagra 04:15, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- Right you are. Fixed. --tjstrf talk 02:59, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- That should be <ref name="exampleref"/> with / at the end. See Misplaced Pages:Footnotes#Citing a footnote more than once. PrimeHunter 02:49, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Sanhedrin references
Dear sir, madam,
I'm a new user, I've just edited the article about the "Sanhedrin". I didn't know how to insert references and I feel the way I've done it, although correct in facts, is inadequate in appearance. Could you give me a reference to show me where to improve it with hyperlinks etc?
Kind regards, Bert — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.205.37.2 (talk • contribs)
- Please see Misplaced Pages:Footnotes for how to use <ref>, </ref> and {{reflist}} to create clean-looking footnotes. - BanyanTree 03:07, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
help me
How do i post content? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 57th street kid (talk • contribs)
FONT
When I access any of the Wiki family of sire they come up in an italic font that is very difficult to read. When I finall decipher and find something I wish to copy by highlighting, copying and pasting the result is alsways in TNR font. Is there a way I can get this font to come up on screen?
--203.173.169.74 04:59, 29 June 2007 (UTC)John Hatchard
- I've seen a similar question here before, and I don't have a clue. Unfortunately, there's no help page on the Misplaced Pages system that deals with this problem AFAIK. You could try asking at Misplaced Pages:Reference desk/Computing. Shalom 06:35, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
WHERE IS MY IMAGE?
I'VE UPLOADED AN IMAGE A FEW DAYS AGO WHILE EDITING Dhoom 2. I THOUGHT THAT MY UPLOADED IMAGE WOULD BE PLACED IN THAT PAGE, BUT AFTER COMPLETION OF THE UPLOADING FILE MY IMAGE HAS NOT BEEN ADDED TO THAT PAGE. NOW WHERE CAN I FIND THE IMAGA? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.7.123.130 (talk • contribs)
- Please log in and show us your account so that we can put the image in the article for you. We can't find it if you don't log in. Also the image was probably deleted if you did not give a description of its copyright status. Tim Q. Wells 06:04, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Pownetwork.com deletion
Hello, I read that the reason behind the pownetwork.org page deletion was that it was a subject that wasn't of significance or something like that. I still quite don't understand the terminology of what you are using. I felt it was inportant to put up. The Stolen Valor Act of 2005 makes it a federal offense for a person to claim military prestige that they did not earn to self promote themselves. The site isn't a slam site, the people do look up to verify that 1.) The person is making extravagant military claims and 2.) The claims they make are simply not true through records or a lack thereof. People need to recognize there are phonies up there that will take advantage of them. I am a servicemember and have family members and many friends whom are veterans of the Afghanistan and Iraq wars, and it makes them unhappy to outright mad when they see or hear about them. There are also countless amounts of non-servicemembers who have been scammed financially, emotionally, and a few times physically by these people. People should ought to know.
Also, it's primarily a memorial site for the POW/MIA of all the wars the U.S. have been in. I think that's a plus too. I would like a quick response back. Thank you.
Sincerely,
Guardiangirl777
- Misplaced Pages is a large site and has room for many articles, but this is an encyclopedia, not a directory of everything ever made. It is very important to us that the content is verifiable. In general, this means that there need to be independent third party sources and articles must have references. For web sites, you can read more details about the inclusion criteria here. Best of luck! Henrik 05:17, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
References: do not send to footnote
Please help check Opus Dei article's reference notes 76 onwards. They do not send to any footnote. In fact there are more than 75 footnotes but footnotes 76 up to 100 do not appear at the foot of the article. Please help. Thanks. Walter Ching 05:10, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- Fixed! Henrik 05:20, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Welsh people
Hi. I've been trying to fix something User:Cstephen did to the info box in the Welsh people article, which messed up the references at the end of the article, but without total success. The refs are okay now, but the info box contains an error message. It might have been fixed by now, but could someone take a look please?--Shantavira| 07:14, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- Fixed! Henrik 07:17, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Clarification
I'm about to do a mass translation from the French Misplaced Pages on communes. I just want to clarify if all towns are notable by right? Sr13 07:35, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- I'm sure they are, just as Meeteetse, Wyoming and Holsloot are. Tim Q. Wells 08:34, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
recovering deletions
I wrote quite a long article in the summer of 2005 on an English school called Beaumont College. I spent a long time on it, adding bits and pieces as I found them, and didn't keep a copy myself, thinking that the Wiki material would always be available.
One day I found a community website containing a fair amount of useful information on local history in the area. I took some material from it, rephrasing what I was using to make sure, in my judgement, that I was staying within the "fair use" provisions of copyright law. One day my article was suddenly blocked by an administrator on copyright grounds. I complained that he should be prepared to discuss the nature of his complaints, that I was happy to amend the material I had used further if what I had written did not comply with US copyright law (my knowledge is of the law in the UK), and that it was very unfair to destroy all the work I had done when it was only a very small part of it, which could easily be removed, that he was objecting to. I had no reply. Then the article was deleted altogether.
I have now found that there are supposed to be ways of challenging this kind of action. But although there is now again an article called "Beaumont College", it is very short and there is no trace of my earlier article. Can I find it somewhere, and try and resurrect the 95% of it that did not offend the administrator?
Deipnosophista 07:42, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- We'll have a chat on your talk page. Sr13 08:14, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
oracle application CRM modules
i want oracle application CRM module details
- Try Oracle's website, and these articles: Oracle E-Business Suite, Customer relationship management, Oracle Applications, and Oracle Corporation. There doesn't appear to be a lot on CRM itself, but this may help. Jim Dunning | talk 12:30, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Filmography
I want to create a Filmography like this one Editing Template:Ursula Andress Films but when I try to create one, I get a blank article page . How do I get a blank Template page ?
87.243.196.167 10:33, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- Are you referring to a list like the one on Ursula Andress filmography or the navigation/summary box called "Main Filmography" at the bottom of the article Ursula Andress? If it's the list, then review Help:Table for information on how to organize data in tables. If it's the "Main Filmography" one, then you can go to Template:Ursula Andress Films and use the markup as a guide to start the template you're shooting for (you might want to review Help:Template as well). Good luck. Jim Dunning | talk 12:48, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Rhe Royal School Dungannon
These are corrections which for accuracy need to be made. Thank you Paul Hewitt, Headmaster, The Royal School, Dungannon.
- Please read WP:COI. After that, feel free to WP:EDIT it yourself --ʇuǝɯɯoɔɐqǝɟ 11:51, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- So long as you cite reliable sources to support the edits. Corvus cornix 17:10, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Sandbox
Is there a warning for someone that deletes the sandbox heading? Thedjatclubrock :) (talk) 00:10, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- {{uw-delete}}. I actually think that template needs a tweak though; maybe should refer to the more inclusive "pages," rather than "articles."--Fuhghettaboutit 00:58, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- Can a user be blocked if S(he) Deletes the template with multiple warninngs. Thanks,Thedjatclubrock :) (talk) 11:02, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- Not really, no, especially since anons can't see their warnings, so it would be a little silly to block them for blanking the sandbox header when they probably don't even know they're doing something wrong--VectorPotential 11:32, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
I can't remember my login name.
I am trying to log in. but can't remember my account name. As to get you to email me my password. What do i do? I don't want to create a new account.
- You will need to create a new account, sorry. Try to keep better track of these things in the future. --ʇuǝɯɯoɔɐqǝɟ 11:49, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- There is one possibility. Can you remember any pages you edited with your account? If so your account name will be listed in the page history. Raven4x4x 13:50, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
INCLUSION OFOUR GROUP INFO
I am representative of The Dawood Group , Pakistan . we want to include our information in[REDACTED] so that our group also becomes part of all the info u providing to all internet users.
Please help me in this regard.
Thanks & Regards
Asim
- See WP:N, then WP:COI. If you feel you can satisfy both of those, visit WP:AFC and WP:FIRST --ʇuǝɯɯoɔɐqǝɟ 12:16, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
feasibility report
please can you show me how to write feasibility report
- The help desk is for help with using wikipedia. See WP:RD for some help --ʇuǝɯɯoɔɐqǝɟ 12:16, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- You might also try Feasibility study or any of the relevant links on Business process. Good luck. Jim Dunning | talk 12:37, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Can an image be a link?
Hello! I'm using wiki markup to make a template on a wiki site and I haven't managed to figure this out: can I link to an external page with an image? Or does the image always link to its own page? Thanks for your reply, --Missmarple 12:17, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- You cannot, to my knowledge, use an image as a link with wiki markup. You must use HTML. -- Kainaw 12:19, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- Oooh, I see :) Completely forgot about HTML... thanks, --Missmarple 12:36, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Can't find the "get help from an expert editor" page
Hello.
I'm really sorry to bother you, but the other day I ran into a Wiki page about getting assistance from a veteran editor. I thought it was a great idea, so I went and got all my info together, so I could make the edit I wanted. I went back to try to get that assistance, and now I can't find it anywhere :(
It's in reference to the page Otherkin, which is being shredded by editors currently. It even has a reference to clinical lycanthropy, which #1. Has nothing to do with otherkin and #2. Inherently attacks otherkin as a spiritual belief by making up some connection to a psychological disorder. Because of the attack on the belief system, I feel it's rather urgent to update it as soon as possible.
Thank you very much for your assistance.
RubyCona 12:57, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- There are several options available. For one, you can just post your question right here and somebody should be able to help you. If it's more urgent or more detailed, you can add the {{helpme}} template onto your user talk page, and somebody will show up to help you out. Or if you'd like more long-term guidance, you can join Misplaced Pages:Adopt-a-User. Or feel free to just go to my talk page and ask there, and I'll be happy to help you out. ;-) --Maelwys 13:05, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- There are several WikiProjects out there that have users who have specialized knowledge in various topics. You can look in Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Council/Directory for an appropriate project. I don't have any experience with Otherkin, but I could tell you all sorts of things about Richardsonian Romanesque architecture. --Elkman 13:32, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Edit request
Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/Evergreen_House
Please change "Evergreen House" to "Evergreen Museum & Library" as we have officially changed our name. Verification may be found on our website at http://www.museums.jhu.edu.
- Done--VectorPotential 17:14, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Edit request
Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/Homewood_House#History
Please change "Homewood House" to "Homewood Museum" as we have officially changed our name. For verification, please visit http://www.museums.jhu.edu.
- Done--VectorPotential 17:14, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
I'll just put my post-to-be here, then :)
Hello! Thanks for responding!
It's in reference to the Misplaced Pages page, Otherkin, which has been a battlefield for a few years now, namely because there were no actual books published about Otherkin. Just recently a book was published, it's called A Field Guide to Otherkin, by Lupa. Just Lupa. The 1st 30 pages of the book are viewable online at http://www.thegreenwolf.com/preview.pdf. The ISBN number is 978-1-905713-07-3 Copyright 2007
Currently, there's a reference in the page to something called Clinical Lycanthropy. I'd like to edit that to clarify that it's in reference to the belief that someone is Physically other than human, namely, a wolf. It says so right in the link on "clinical lycanthropy." It just says "belief that one is other than human" currently, which indicates a connection to Otherkin that isn't valid. Otherkin is the belief that one is Spiritually other than human. That or completely remove the reference to Clinical Lycanthropy, since it has nothing to do with Otherkin.
I'd like to remove the "Common creatures to which Otherkin claim some connection include angels, demons, elves, fairies, lycanthropes, and even extra-terrestrials." and replace it with more detailed information, from the book:
"Otherkin can be broken down into several categories: Elves and Fey, therianthropes, mythological animals (the most common of which being dragon), vampires, angelkin and demonkin, Kitsune (an unique fox spirit otherkin, primarily from China and Japan), Multiples and Walkins, and Otakukin and Mediakin. This last group is highly controversial within the otherkin community, opinions vary as to whether they are actually a part of Otherkin, or an entirely seperate phenomenon."
This is paraphrased from the book's section on "types of otherkin." I'd like to break down the categories below.
And right next to the Clinical Lycanthropy line (again, edited to clarify it's the belief one is Physically other than human) I'd like to add a line saying, "An Otherkin is one who believes that "through either a nonphysical or (much more rarely) physical means, s/he is not entirely human" (- direct quote). The most common belief is that one was once non human, then reincarnated into human form." with the little {#} thing showing that it's referenced to the A Field Guide to Otherkin book.
And to add the book as reference. Don't know how to do any of those things.
I'm not too savvy on wikipedia's rules. Can you have a bunch of information from a single book? There's only one book in existance about otherkin, virtually all information on the community exists as online resources, like www.otherkin.net, which the editors say are invalid since they're not published.
I'd like to basically write the article based on the otherkin book, but there's a few problems. I don't know how to do HTML stuff, don't know how to make the category stuff, don't know how to make links, zip nadda. And, I'm not sure if writing the article based on primarily 1 source is ok by wikipedia. The book is pretty neutral, for the most part. The author is otherkin, however, she's just detailing the facts about otherkin, the community, from a pretty matter-of-fact point of view, from surveys and researsuch. So, I think it's a very good source for the article.
Thanks for your help :D
RubyCona 14:07, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- This should be on the Talk page for Otherkin. The Help desk isn't for resolving editing disputes. If you feel that you are at an impasse with editors on that article, you might go through dispute resolution. -- Kesh 23:20, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Anyone to know the DFD of help desk application?
Anyone to know the DFD of help desk application? I want sample Data Flow Diagram for help desk application, which is using in maximum BPO's. Please send me the DFD for simple help desk application. Email_Id : (email address removed)
vipin —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 123.252.160.55 (talk)
- I'm not sure what you want. We have an article on Data flow diagram. The software controlling this help desk is the same as other Misplaced Pages pages and many other wikis: MediaWiki. PrimeHunter 14:54, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- Your chances of getting a useful answer improve if you link all the jargon and three letter acronyms in your question to pages that define them. BPO is ambiguous, thus it has a disambiguation page. The only entry that might have something to do with the rest of your question seems to be the first one. But we don't know if the list of entries in BPO is exhaustive, so you will have to explain what you mean. --Teratornis 15:04, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
AWB for linux
WP:AWB makes it rather clear that it will only run on Microsoft software, are there any clients similar to AWB for linux though? Something more than just popups would be nice --ʇuǝɯɯoɔɐqǝɟ 14:16, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- Check the links in User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Misplaced Pages#Bro, e.g. Misplaced Pages:Tools/Browser tools. If nothing listed there is what you want, and you find something elsewhere, please add your finding to the Editor's Index. Also try searching Meta-Wiki and mediawiki.org. --Teratornis 18:06, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Question or Article Request
Does anyone know why exactly the "Ceramite" page redirects to Weapons of the Imperium, when the latter page has zero mention of Ceramite? Furthermore, Google seems to indicate ceramite is used in real life in various construction and electronics applications, so it should probably have its own page rather than redirecting to one of a fictional universe. 24.65.61.166 15:49, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- Apparently, Ceramite is an "important" material in the construction of body armor in fictional game universes. Since it is also a "real" material in our universe, a disambiguation page should also be created and the redirect removed.
Jim Dunning | talk 16:07, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- Further research shows that Ceramite is a trademarked (and therefore a proprietary) product of Elkem Materials. It may not necessarily be a well-known material and therefore not notable enough for inclusion in WP. On the other hand, it might be as notable as Corian and someone could start a page on it. If you're interested in doing so, then contact an admin about deleting the redirect and create a disambiguation page along with the article on Ceramite.
Jim Dunning | talk 16:26, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- Further research shows that Ceramite is a trademarked (and therefore a proprietary) product of Elkem Materials. It may not necessarily be a well-known material and therefore not notable enough for inclusion in WP. On the other hand, it might be as notable as Corian and someone could start a page on it. If you're interested in doing so, then contact an admin about deleting the redirect and create a disambiguation page along with the article on Ceramite.
- Disambiguation pages are used to disambiguate between Misplaced Pages articles and we don't appear to have an article mentioning a real material at the moment. Ceramite was mentioned in Weapons of the Imperium when the redirect was pointed there but not now, so I have changed the target to Equipment of the Imperium (Warhammer 40,000). The redirect does not have to be deleted in order to create a disambiguation page or article. When the redirect target is reached after clicking Ceramite, just click the Ceramite link in "(Redirected from Ceramite)" and then edit the page normally. PrimeHunter 16:36, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for the additional info and education.
Jim Dunning | talk 18:33, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for the additional info and education.
The words "effect" and "affect"
Which word would I use in a sentence such as "The gas was having a very negative affect on me"?
- Effect. - Zeibura 16:32, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- "Effect". See the Wiktionary definition.
Jim Dunning | talk 16:33, 29 June 2007 (UTC) - See List of frequently misused English words#A for the affect/effect entry. --Teratornis 17:57, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
FOREST AND WILDLIFE RESOURCES
WHAT IS NORMAL SPECIES?
- Please try the reference desk desk! Dep. Garcia ( Talk + | Help Desk | Complaints ) 17:45, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Template
How do you create a new Template ? Tovojolo 17:51, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- Go to {{YOURTEMPLATENAMEHERE}} or Template:YOURTEMPLATENAMEHERE and start typing--VectorPotential 17:55, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) The same way as you create an article. Coding for a template can be complex, though, so it's advisable to look at other similar templates for guidance if you've never create one before. See also Misplaced Pages:Template namespace. --ais523 17:56, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) I was going to edit that into my post, now I don't have to (-: I will however add a link to m:Help:Template -- VectorPotential 17:58, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- Templates are an "advanced" feature of MediaWiki which means you can expect to need some time to study them. Start with Help:Template and see the links under User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Misplaced Pages#Tem. --Teratornis 18:00, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Carried Interest definition was deleted -- How do I protest and get it reinstated?
On June 22, a tag was placed on an entry I made about "Carried Interest." The objection from the tag/bot was that the term was a copyright infringement. Carried Interest is NOT a copyrighted term, it is a term used within the investment fund world to describe a fund manager's share of distribution from a private equity fund or hedge fund. Additionally, this term, and now issue, has been all over the US press lately as the US Congress is seriously looking at increasing significantly the taxes paid on this distribution.
Can you please advise me and/or help me on the best way to get this definition reinstated? This is my first Misplaced Pages experience and entry.
Sincerely,
KSTax--KSTax 18:13, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- It's not the subject of the article that causes copyright concerns, it's the content. You can't just cut n paste from some website. Misplaced Pages is free content. Try writing about this topic in your own words. Friday (talk) 18:14, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Also keep in mind that the article was tagged and deleted by humans, not by bots. The bot just left the note on your talk page. Often times, people don't through new articles or recent changes do not leave comments on page, because it takes too much time, effort, or they just forget, so there are bots to take care of the stuff that humans don't want to --ʇuǝɯɯoɔɐqǝɟ 18:17, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
User boxe questions
Excuse me, but is there a directory of userboxes? And what is the wikicookie? 8th sinn 18:40, 29 June 2007 (UTC)8th sinn8th sinn 18:40, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- The first part of your question is easy, WP:UBX. The second part of your question is slightly confusing. --VectorPotential 18:42, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- I think this is the WikiCookie. It appears to be an inactive rewards system.
Jim Dunning | talk 18:56, 29 June 2007 (UTC)- I think people still give others cookies. It's like a light version of a barnstar. ssepp 21:36, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- I think this is the WikiCookie. It appears to be an inactive rewards system.
Australian Cityizenship Test
The Australian Cityizenship Test -- Comments Plerase 220.238.121.16 18:58, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- What kind of comments? We don't appear to have an article about it. This page is for questions about using Misplaced Pages. The Reference Desk is for general knowledge questions. But if you are looking for comments about the Australian Citizenship Test then Misplaced Pages is probably not a good place. You could try a Google search . PrimeHunter 19:54, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
German Porcelain Trademarks
I am attempting to find who a trademark belongs to on a porcelain figurine that is stamped Germany and had a mark on it I am not familar with. Where can I find a list of trademarks before 1940?…19:05, 29 June 2007 (UTC)72.188.227.70Tinkersmom
- The help desk is for questions about using Misplaced Pages. You could ask your question at the reference desk. ssepp 21:28, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Changing Username That Has Been Taken
Back around January, this year, an account called Smuggler was created along with Smuggler inc, Those accounts have been inactive and do not have pages up. I am looking to create a page that gives a list of neutral facts about a production company. Companies such as 40anceres and a mule are listed with hardly any facts or information about their productions. There is also a list of directors along with the company founders that I would like to document in this page. The Smuggler and Smuggler inc accounts are inactive and merely reserving those names. I would like to have either name because the company is called smuggler. It would be incorrect and inconvenient to put this listing under any other name. I just would like to document facts about smuggler and the directors involved.
Authors deleting CSD tag on own article
Please advise on how to deal with authors deleting the CSD tag on their own articles. Thanks!--Evil1987 20:17, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- Warn them using {{uw-speedy1}} and put CSD tag on a page again. Jacek Kendysz 20:24, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks. The user has done additional editing and I'm no longer certain it qualifies for speedy deletion, so I think I'll warn them without re-tagging the page. Does that sound okay?--Evil1987
- I'd say so. The way I'd do it would be to make use of the additional text parameter of the warning template - so {{subst:uw-speedy1|Article name|However, in this case you seem to have also added sufficient information to the article to disqualify it from speedy deletion, so I will not be re-adding the tag. Thank you.|subst=subst:}} would give
Welcome to Misplaced Pages. Please do not remove speedy deletion tags from articles that you have created yourself, as you did with Article name. If you do not believe the article should be deleted, then please place {{hangon}} on the page (please do not remove any existing speedy deletion tag) and make your case on the article's talk page. Administrators will look at your reasoning before deciding what to do with the article. However, in this case you seem to have also added sufficient information to the article to disqualify it from speedy deletion, so I will not be re-adding the tag. Thank you.
- Which seems to say what you want to say. Confusing Manifestation 14:54, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
changing an article
I've been asked to completely update, change, overhaul an article on Misplaced Pages http://en.wikipedia.org/John_Tarrant. It needs sources and, as a biography, isn't very accurate. I've been working with the person who the article is about (John Tarrant) to come up with the new text. Is it okay to just eliminate the old article and replace it? The original author is also in favor of updating the article and adding references.
Second question. About references: Some of the information in the article is also referenced in author bio's from the books the subject has written and there is one other book that has some material we probably use, but in general it's just material given by the subject of the article. What's the best way to do the references in this case?
24.18.156.147 20:25, 29 June 2007 (UTC)R. Boughton
- It should be alright to remove/rewrite content, as long as you use descriptive edit summaries you should be fine, otherwise people might think you're blanking the article, and might try to revert you--VectorPotential 20:31, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- You could also discuss the proposed changes on the article's Talk page to solicit input.
Jim Dunning | talk 22:35, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- You could also discuss the proposed changes on the article's Talk page to solicit input.
- I don't see a problem, provided you leave a notice explaining your changes on the article talk page. However, we ask people to be careful when editing articles they are closely associated with. Take a look through our conflict of interest guidelines. --h2g2bob (talk) 23:09, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
tagged?
'This article has been tagged' What does this mean? 69.204.104.156 20:42, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- Depends on the context, could mean it's been tagged for cleanup, or it could mean it's been tagged for deletion (WP:CSD or WP:AfD) and any number of things in between. As I said, context is everything--VectorPotential 20:44, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- If you saw this message on an article in a box saying "This article has been tagged since (month and year)", then it should mean the box has been there since the given time. The box should also say what the box is for. PrimeHunter 22:23, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
using International Music Score Library Project (IMSLP)
I have reached the International Music Score Library Project (IMSLP) page. But nothing there shows me how to use it. It is supposed to have scores for various works, such as Bach's 3rd Orchestral Suite in D, but I don't see how to find any scores.
How do I use your page?
Thanks.
76.184.120.45 21:05, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- The website for that project is here. I think you were on the[REDACTED] article for that project instead of its website. Misplaced Pages (this website) is an encyclopedia. IMSLP is not related to Misplaced Pages. If you have further question about IMSLP please ask at their site, not here. ssepp 21:24, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Vacation template
I'm going to be away for a while, so I wanted to create a vacation template for myself. I can write any text, but I'm having an issue with the default color of the {{vacation}} template, which is orange. How can I make an identical template with the first set of dark blue colors featured at WP:COLOR? - AMP'd 21:12, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- First, you need to type {{subst:Holiday}} on your talk page and save. Then, after that, go edit the code so that the first line reads
- {| class="messagebox standard" style=background:#cedff2 border:#a3b0bf
- And leave the rest as is. That should work. --tjstrf talk 21:25, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- Awesome! Where is this written down? - AMP'd 21:34, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- It can be found here (if that is what you were asking). Tim Q. Wells 21:47, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- Actually, it isn't written down. I just spliced those directions together based on {{wikibreak}}, which accepts a background colour input field, and told you how to replace the revelant code from {{holiday}} so that it also accepted background colour. It would actually be pretty easy to merge the code into the template directly, now that you mention it. --tjstrf talk 21:51, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Britney Spears
hey guys, i have news about Britney Spears, but as im a new user i cant add it ...so here is the link for the whizz that can lol...
- I"m sorry, but this is too broad and unspecific. Perhaps you can add it yourself: please see Misplaced Pages:How to edit a page. The Evil Spartan 21:43, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
concentration camps
Yes, I'd like to ask a question. In the Iraqi war going on right now, are there concentration camps for middle eastern's like the Japanese in WWII? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.49.164.37 (talk)
- Try the reference desk. Politically loaded questions like that aren't likely to float far anyway, though. The Evil Spartan 21:42, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.49.164.37 (talk)
- See also our articles on Internment and Japanese American internment. The term "concentration camps" is generally not used about the internment camps for Japanese in USA during WWII. They were very different from the Nazi concentration camps and extermination camps which is what people today usually associate with "concentration camps". PrimeHunter 21:56, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- The euphemism treadmill spins again! Here's an excerpt:
- For example, the term “concentration camp,” to describe camps used to house civilian prisoners, was used by the British during the Second Boer War, primarily because it sounded bland and inoffensive. However, after the Third Reich used the expression to describe its death camps, the term gained enormous negative connotation. Since then, new terms have been invented as euphemisms for them, such as internment camps, resettlement camps, etc.
- Some might consider Camp X-Ray and Camp Delta to be concentration camps, but the official term for these facilities is detainment camp (the euphemism treadmill has ratcheted forward a few notches). Also, those camps are not for all members of a certain ethnicity, but for persons accused by the U.S. government of being "illegal combatants." For one of the most brutal instances of prisoner confinement in U.S. history, see Andersonville National Historic Site. --Teratornis 22:19, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- The euphemism treadmill spins again! Here's an excerpt:
- See also our articles on Internment and Japanese American internment. The term "concentration camps" is generally not used about the internment camps for Japanese in USA during WWII. They were very different from the Nazi concentration camps and extermination camps which is what people today usually associate with "concentration camps". PrimeHunter 21:56, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.49.164.37 (talk)
Reverts
I saw this on an article history :
(diff) (hist) . . Jennifer Tilly; 08:18 . . (+14) . . SatyrTN (Talk | contribs) (Reverted edits by 69.156.23.19 to version 140161588 by 71.229.183.112)
Where does the figure 140161588 come from ?
I'm looking at the Jennifer Tilly history right now and I don't see it.
Where does it come from ? What does it represent ?
Tovojolo 21:46, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- It means it was the 140,161,588th time someone edited Misplaced Pages. Tim Q. Wells 21:50, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
So if I wanted to see that, what would I do ? --Tovojolo 21:53, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- You know on diff links, how it will have a part of the address bar saying "&oldid=" and then a number? Well, if you paste the number of a given revision in, in this case 140161588, instead of the one that's there by default, it will show you that revision. So you want http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Jennifer_Tilly&oldid=140161588
- This is actually true no matter what page you are on, so for instance, the address http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages:Help_desk&oldid=140161588 actually doesn't display a revision of this page, but rather the one from that Jennifer Tilly article again. Which gives you some weird results if you try navigating diffs from it. --tjstrf talk 22:00, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Questions about adding a Medical Device company to Wiki?
How do you add this to Wiki? What are the guidlines for adding information about this company? Thx for you help.
Tom —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tomdos (talk • contribs).
- See Misplaced Pages:Creating an article. -- Kainaw 23:01, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- But for guidelines, please check WP:N and specifically WP:CORP. If you are associated with the company, please check WP:COI and WP:AB. Basically any user who has been registered for five days can create an article, but any other user can question the notability of the article's subject, and a consensus that the subject is non-notable will cause the article to be deleted. When in doubt, ask before wasting a lot of your time. -70.177.166.200 03:00, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
- And think very carefully about whether this is what you really want to do. Remember, it's the encyclopedia that anyone can edit -- that includes your competitors, disgruntled customers, and all their friends and relatives. 03:28, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
- But for guidelines, please check WP:N and specifically WP:CORP. If you are associated with the company, please check WP:COI and WP:AB. Basically any user who has been registered for five days can create an article, but any other user can question the notability of the article's subject, and a consensus that the subject is non-notable will cause the article to be deleted. When in doubt, ask before wasting a lot of your time. -70.177.166.200 03:00, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
Links
How do I create a link to another page in Misplaced Pages, like when its blue and underlined and takes you somewhere else. Anna F C 00:30, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
- Add four brackets around it. For example, ] turns to Misplaced Pages. Tim Q. Wells 00:49, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
- You can often see how something is done by clicking edit (or view source for protected pages) on a page that does it. For example, the source for your above signature says ] which creates a piped link called "Anna F C", but linking to User:Anna F C. PrimeHunter 01:14, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
Requesting article topic without writing it
Can I request Misplaced Pages to create an article, though I don't want to be the one to write it? Can I do this without registering?
For example, I'd like to see Arthur Sulzberger's article expanded or a new article that addresses his role in fighting Zionism and his apathy towards the Holocaust.
Can I request this somehow? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.123.235.53 (talk)
- You can make suggestions and edit most articles without registering. I guess you refer to Arthur Hays Sulzberger. You can suggest additions to the article at Talk:Arthur Hays Sulzberger. You can request a new article at Misplaced Pages:Requested articles. But I cannot say whether any action will be taken. PrimeHunter 02:58, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
Theoretical Work On Absolute Maximum Temperature Possible
This question relates to the subject of "temperature."
It is my understanding that "Absolute Zero Kelvin" is the lowest temperature that matter could possibly attain. When I read articles about cosmetology and astronomy I see temperatures mentioned of tens and even hundreds of millions of degrees.
My question is this: Has there ever been any theoretical (mathematical, etc.) work done to try and find out (establish) what, if any, is the absolute maximum temperature that is possible for "matter" and/or plasma to attain?
Thank you.
Dean M. Schlarbaum
- I really hope that "cosmetology" was a typo. Raymond Arritt 03:41, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
- Thermodynamic temperature article appears to explain what your looking for, from there the references would also be another place to get the information Gnangarra 03:45, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
Mark Wilkinson Music
I created a page (Mark Wilkinson Music) my user ID is nman3912. However when i try to search for it using[REDACTED] search engine it doesnt come up. I think that i may have saved it as a JPG instead of an actualy Page. Im really lost. Help — Preceding unsigned comment added by nman3912 (talk • contribs)
- Did you click search instead of go? Try clicking go if you've been using search. No, you didn't save it as JPG or anything like that. Tim Q. Wells 06:55, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
- No, you did a good job! If I remember correctly, the search function doesn't update immediately, but you can access the page by naming it exactly and clicking "Go".
- Also, I've linked the title above, and I just want to let you know that per our naming conventions, the name of this article should be Mark Wilkinson (musician) or Mark Wilkinson (singer) or something like that. I've gone ahead and moved it to Mark Wilkinson (musician).
- Regarding the content - Misplaced Pages gets tons of new musicians every day. To have an article, a musician has to meet Misplaced Pages's notability guidelines. I think you've done a good job here, but you may want to review the rules here, just to make sure.
- Hope this helps. If you need anything else, just ask here, or you can ask me on my talk page, and I'd be happy to help! tiZom(2¢) 07:04, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
Disambiguation
I'm planning to do an article on the sternwheeler Moyie this weekend, and as you can see, that title is available. However there is a Moyie Lake, Moyie River, Moyie Springs and an unwritten (but undoubtedly forthcoming) Moyie, British Columbia. In light of these other "Moyie" titled articles and articles to be, is now the time to think about making a disambiguation page? And should the simple title Moyie be saved for the unwritten town article? Because I could use Moyie (sternwheeler) instead.CindyBo 07:07, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
- I'd say make Moyie a dab page, create the town article at Moyie, British Columbia, and create the sternwheeler at Moyie (sternwheeler). On a side note, I had to get out my dictionary to find out what the heck a sternwheeler was. --ʇuǝɯɯoɔɐqǝɟ 08:26, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, that makes sense. I do try and make the term sternwheeler clear in the articles, and link to paddle steamer right off the bat. Because you're right, it's hardly an everyday word. Thanks again for your help.CindyBo 08:47, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
- Why a dictionary? Why not sternwheeler, which does redirect to paddle steamer. -Arch dude 18:23, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
Get admission
Sir me from Pakistan. i am very good player of football "i dare say" that's way i wanna join your academy. sir please tell me how i join your acadmemy.
thanks Name----Waseem E-mail--- <e-mail address removed for privacy reasons> Mobile no--- <phone number removed for privacy reasons>
- You are in the wrong place; this is the help desk for Misplaced Pages - the 💕. We are not a football academy. If you wish to ask about joining a football academy you might want to use the Reference Desk. I have also removed your e-mail address and phone number to prevent spam. Raven4x4x 09:28, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
wikipedia
view full episode of mr bean (original) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.78.170.3 (talk • contribs).
- I'm not sure what you want but List of Mr. Bean episodes may be of interest. PrimeHunter 14:42, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
Missing page
I created a page called Princess Marcella Borghese on Thursday, June 28, 2007 at approximately 20:30 EST. I do not have an account, and created the page anonymously.
The page does not seem to be up, and it is not listed on the deletion logs I checked.74.99.2.250 11:44, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
- You suggested the page at Misplaced Pages:Articles for creation/2007-06-29#Princess Marcella Borghese where it was declined. You can see the reason there. Submissions at Articles for creation are listed on an existing page and is not the same as creating a page. No page has been created at Princess Marcella Borghese. PrimeHunter 12:37, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
Signature
Is there any way to make a template or something so I don't need to type in my signature every time? How? Thanks a lot, Wikihobby ҈
Elvis Presley's favorite books
Hello,
I wrote an article entitled "Elvis Presleys favorite books" which was deleted because the people in charge said it was "bollocks", not well researched (there were 33 references), irrelevant etc.
One critic even went so far as to say, "Why not have a page on my favorite books?" Strange. I don't think they really understand what a cultural phenomon Elvis was and how much his fans want to know about him. Just for the record I didn't like his movies either.
In short I would like to appeal this decision.
Bruce7777777 30 June 07 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bruce7777777 (talk • contribs) 15:46, 30 June 2007.
- Note that Misplaced Pages:Deletion review says: "This process should not be used simply because you disagree with a deletion debate's outcome but instead if you think the debate itself was interpreted incorrectly by the closer or have some significant new information pertaining to the debate that was not available on Misplaced Pages during the AfD debate." The debate at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Elvis Presley's favourite books cannot be interpreted to keep. PrimeHunter 16:11, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
How do I change an articles Name?
The article titled 'Doncaster Lakers' needs to be changed because the club is now called 'Doncaster RLFC' how do I change this or can someone do this for me?
- I changed the name for you. To change an article name, you need to move the page by clicking the move button. Once an account is more than 4 days old, you can move pages using your account. --Hdt83 16:46, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
How do I make the new messages thing go away?
I've read all my new messages. How do I make the thing that says I have new messages here go away? 63.224.202.1 17:37, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
- I think it's a bug/glitch/problem with the MediaWiki program for anonymous users. Try purging your cache (Ctrl Shift R from Firefox, Ctrl F5 for Explorer), or quitting your browser and opening it again. Evilclown93(talk) 17:39, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
copyright rules for pictures on wikipedia?
Can I use photos that appear in the pages of wikepedia on my website for free?
I'm so confused by Misplaced Pages! I'm trying so hard to figure this out. For starters, why can't I upload images that I own? Why am I being told I'm doing something wrong with photos I have permission to use? What do I need to include in the HTML to make this all better???
Do you contact me via this, or via my e-mail- <email removed for privacy>
- You should check the licensing information on that image's page. If the image is in the public domain or under a free license, it'll be ok to use (just check the terms of the license if you want to make any changes to the image). Some pictures are under copyright, however, so you should check with the holder of the copyright (who should be named on the image page) before you use them. For example, the image below is in the public domain, but this image is held under copyright (which is why I can't show it on this page).
- Misplaced Pages itself holds no copyright on any information or images on this site. All material is licensed under the GFDL, unless otherwise stated as on the image pages.
- For more information on how to upload images properly, see WP:IMAGE and WP:IUP. Hersfold 20:19, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
How long to allow "citation needed" tag?
If a particular item has been tagged with the "citation needed" tag since Februrary, can we delete that uncited item? What is the acceptable length of time to allow something uncited to remain in an article?
- Primarily, one should try to find a source. If you can't find it, and no one else has been able to add one since February, I don't think it would be unreasonable to remove the item. It's something that have to be decided on a case by case basis though. Happy editing! Henrik 20:55, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
- See also Misplaced Pages:Citing sources#Dealing with citation problems. If it's harmful, it should have been deleted long ago. If it's harmless then there is no fixed time limit. If it sounds dubious, it would probably be OK to delete it now. If it doesn't sound dubious and it's on a page with low edit frequency then I suggest you either search for a source (e.g. with Google) and remove it if you fail, or leave it if you don't want to spend time searching. What is the article? Then we can help better. PrimeHunter 21:06, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
added photo
hi I uploaded a photo and added to a wiki article. The only probelm is that i there is a box around the image. How do i fix that--Gustyfalcon 21:00, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
- This is about Jason Derek Brown I assume. It seems it has been fixed. You get that box if you add spaces before text
like this
Userboxes on User page
How do I get the userboxes on my user page to sit nice and not go all over the place? I am one of these people who communicates using the boxes and right now they are all over my user page.--Brianna Goldberg 21:09, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
- There is some info about this at Wp:userboxes#Grouping_userboxes but that might be a bit confusing (at least I thought so when I grouped my userboxes). I used the table method on my userpage, you could use the structure of that as an example if you choose to use a table (by clicking edit on my userpage and viewing the code). Each pair of boxes shows next to each other, and the |- creates a newline. ssepp 21:28, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
SPA (meatpuppet?) flood
Is there any particularly-efficacious way to contend with the flood of SPA's in this straw poll and the not-quite-3RR-violating insistence on change in violation of consensus? Permanent semi-protection of the page seems ridiculously extreme, and would just mean that all those SPA's would be creating throwaway accounts, instead of posting anonymously. Is this just destined to become a slow-burning WP:LEW? While we're at it, can anyone Goggle up any obvious WP:MEAT recruitment, such as blog or forum posts, for example? Jouster (whisper) 21:44, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
- WP:VOTE might have some relevance here... ssepp 21:55, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
- I'm familiar with it, and I even went so far as to cite it on the Talk page in question. Please don't WP:WTF and WP:BITE. Jouster (whisper) 23:48, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
- Anyone have any actual suggestions on how to curb this situation? Jouster (whisper) 05:58, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- I added the {{afdanons}} template to the poll. I know it's suited more for AfD, but it gets the message across. Shadow1 (talk) 23:02, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- Hmm, me likes. Thanks. Jouster (whisper) 08:29, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
- I added the {{afdanons}} template to the poll. I know it's suited more for AfD, but it gets the message across. Shadow1 (talk) 23:02, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
Leaving Messages
I logged on and found a message on "my talk", how do I send a message back to that person, (or anyone) Anna F C 22:05, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
- If they signed the message, there should be a link back to the sender's talk page. If there isn't, you can always check the page history and see who sent it there. Then, once on the sender's talk page you can click the small "+" at the top of the page, which will allow you to create a new thread on the page. (spebi · talk) 22:09, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
I was wondering about that 2, but what if you want to send a message to a user that hasn't sent u a message. 216.184.34.43 22:11, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
- You need to go their talk page, either by clicking on their name (which normally leads to their user page) and then clicking discussion, or by entering User talk:(username) into the search box. The click the "+" at the top. ssepp 22:14, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
Pictures
I am no good with computers, so I got 2 ask a dumb question, how do I add pictures to Misplaced Pages. Anna F C 22:09, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
- If it is not uploaded yet, need to upload it through Misplaced Pages:Upload (make sure to read the instructions well). Then you can include it in an article using the markup explained in Misplaced Pages:Images. Note that images that are not freely licensed can normally not be used in Misplaced Pages. ssepp 22:17, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
- If you want to upload an image from your computer onto Misplaced Pages, you must know what license is the image licensed under. You can't just upload any photo that you found off the Internet. I recommend reading the Misplaced Pages's image use policy before uploading the image. If you do know what license the image is under, you can upload it now by going to Special:Upload. If you upload an image under a false license, you will be blocked indefinitely.
- On the other hand, if you want to add a picture that is already on Misplaced Pages to an article, you need to place ] to the article.
- replace Image name.png with the exact filename of the picture
- replace 150px with the size in pixels you want the picture to appear
- replace thumb with frame, or you can leave it as it is.
- replace right with either right, left, center or none; and
- replace Caption here with the optional caption
- I also recommend reading our picture tutorial. Hope this helps, (spebi · talk) 22:28, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
Mayor vs Supervisor in Geobox Settlement
Many of the Town articles use the Geobox Settlement template, which contains a Mayor field. However, in many towns (e.g.-those in New York State), the town leader has the title Town Supervisor, not Mayor. Could someone please explain how to use the Geobox so that it says "Supervisor" when needed? Thanks. Truthanado 22:45, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
- As far as I know, a new template would have to be made. Fields cannot be changed as needed for templates. Doing so voids the field and it just doesn't show up on the page. Go to Misplaced Pages:Requested templates to request this. LaraLove/C 13:45, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
Login problem - "Remember me" seems to have forgotten
When I set up my account some months ago (User:Struway) I clicked the Remember me button, so it would log in automatically. Came back from holiday a couple of days ago, login working fine, suddenly today it wants me to log in explicitly i.e. to enter user name and password. So I enter what I'm pretty sure is my password, but apparently it isn't, and (stupid, I know) I didn't supply an email address so can't request a password to be sent.
I know I can create a new account (though it's a pity, as I was quite happy with the one I had), but was wondering if anyone knew why this might suddenly happen? 86.131.13.222 22:51, 30 June 2007 (UTC) (who used to edit as Struway)
- You may have accidentally cleared your cookies and your saved passwords in your browser. (spebi · talk) 23:15, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
- I may have - but other sites supposed to "remember me" still do, and that wouldn't explain my password not being what I
knowsincerely believe it to be. Thanks for replying, anyway; I've now created a new account, and supplied an email address, so if it happens again at least it'll be recoverable ;-) Struway2 | Talk 08:06, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
- I may have - but other sites supposed to "remember me" still do, and that wouldn't explain my password not being what I
Questions about Misplaced Pages's survivability
Hello.
I posted a question up here most recently, and I'm wondering about something.
Wiki trolls are shredding wikipedia. Not just my soap box, the Otherkin page, but tons of them. People who go crazy on the small technicalities of Misplaced Pages's rules. Otherkin went from a 4 page article, very well written, neutral, and an excellent reference... even though I didn't completely agree with it... and because it used online references, it was ripped to shreds, now a tiny article that even includes a references to Clinical Lycanthropy, which has nothing to do with the belief, and uses a reference from a website maintained by a skeptical teacher who's admittedly biased, but say that the recently published book about otherkin isn't valid, because she wrote books about things they don't find valid, like animal magick and alchemy. Even though those are published, too.
Sometimes common sense is thrown into the wind in favor of obsessive technicality, ruining the greatest thing about wikipedia: it's the online source of information about obscure topics. Yeah, you can read about the Holocaust, for instance, in any random encyclopedia. But you want to read about Otherkin, or some other obscure, fringe topic, and it's available on wikipedia... at least, up until a few years ago. Tons of pages are getting shredded to bits. Some of it's valid, but they're not using common sense in a number of cases, but an obsession with technicality instead.
I can't really do editing stuff, because I don't understand HTML and related things. But even if the 3 year long battle to the death on the Otherkin article is finally resolved, it doesn't fix the problem that caused it.
How can we fix wikipedia's current, inherent flaw: wiki trolls? How can a movement be made, to change and fix[REDACTED] back to it's original beauty? There has to be something that can be done. It pains me to see obscure, but accurate articles disappear into oblivion because the information about them only exists online. The internet is such a massive tool for data sharing, a lot of information about some subjects can only be found online. Why should those subjects be entirely discarded? Why is a website dedicated to the study and publishing of it's findings, made by a passionate user, less valid than a random reporter, putting in some comment in the news?
Misplaced Pages needs a makeover. Maybe this place isn't the best place to ask this, but where is? What can be done? — Preceding unsigned comment added by RubyCona (talk • contribs)
- Misplaced Pages is not for everyone, but that is not immediately apparent to a number of new users. Only after gaining some experience on Misplaced Pages can people see how well it fits with their particular agendas. As you are probably aware, the world is full of many sharp disagreements; in some cases, people are even willing to die or kill over differences in belief. Given that Misplaced Pages is the encyclopedia that (almost) anyone can edit, that raises questions about how Misplaced Pages can avoid descending into endless edit warring. (Actually since the edit warring around here is endless, the real question is how to keep a lid on it.) The answers are in Misplaced Pages's policies of WP:NOR, WP:NPOV, and WP:RS. Those documents do a better job of explaining themselves than I can here, so read them as many times as you need to understand them.
- If you have content you want to edit on a wiki, but Misplaced Pages deletes it, then go find another wiki with different content policies that favor your point of view. There are thousands of public wikis; see: List of wikis for a very incomplete list, and search WikiIndex for a lot more. You might, for example, prefer to edit on WikInfo because it rejects the neutral point of view in favor of the sympathetic point of view, and welcomes original research. You might also think about starting your own wiki if you can't find an existing wiki you like. --Teratornis 00:09, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- I should also point out that Misplaced Pages's survivability is not in question at the moment, with 48,600,446 registered user accounts and 6,944,014 articles, both numbers continuing to burgeon. That is why Misplaced Pages has the luxury of deleting up to several pages per minute. Misplaced Pages has no problem getting vast amounts of content which complies with its policies. But for some odd reason, it seems many contributors of noncompliant content are unaware of the existence of other wikis which might welcome their content. Misplaced Pages is not the "only game in town" (or, more specifically the only wiki), yet it seems to be the only wiki many people have heard of. Misplaced Pages was, for example, the first wiki I looked seriously at. When a new user creates a new article, there is no obvious mention of the fact that other wikis exist, and the new user should first determine the most appropriate wiki for the article he or she wants to create. I think if that message could be gotten across to new users clearly somehow, it might save everyone a lot of grief. --Teratornis 00:22, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- To the original poster, your use of "my soap box" indicates that you have not read WP:SOAP. To boil down all the Misplaced Pages rules into a single sentence: Misplaced Pages is focused on organizing online (and sometimes print) references, not specifically truth or fact. In other words, there are many things on Misplaced Pages that are not true, but they are referenced. So, they stay. There are many things on Misplaced Pages that are completely true, but not referenced. So, they get removed. -- Kainaw 00:30, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
Image link
How can I display a text-only image link? Tcrow777 talk 23:02, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
- Never mind, I found out how. Tcrow777 talk 23:12, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
- By typing the following code: ] – replace Image file name.png with the actual filename. This same method can be used to display text-only links for Categories, and transclude pages in the article namespace (e.g. {{:Main Page}} transcludes the main page). (spebi · talk) 23:13, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
EDUCATION
EDUCATION IN CANADA —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 61.10.60.10 (talk • contribs).
- See Education in Canada for the article on education in Canada. (spebi · talk) 23:11, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
Article Photos on a User Page
If a photo appears on a Misplaced Pages article, can I put a link to it onto my own User Page ?
Tovojolo 23:27, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
- Yes. See Help:Image. --Teratornis 23:32, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
- And also: Special:Mostimages. You can browse to some of the most-linked-to images, scroll down to see the pages that use the image, and see that many users have linked to some of them from their user pages. --Teratornis 23:36, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
- Just to be clear since the word "link" may be ambiguous, you may not post fair use images on on your user or talk page. By contrast, images that are free to use, such as those that have Creative Commons licenses, are under the GFDL or in the public domain (images residing at the Wikimedia commons) are okay.--Fuhghettaboutit 23:48, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
Self-promotion of website?
I presume there is some kind of name for this (link pimping?), but I suspect someone of littering their website through a bunch of[REDACTED] pages to improve their Google ranking. Is there some way to search for a domain name through[REDACTED] articles? (searching for "example.com site:wikipedia.org" only finds specific "example.com" listings, not a full stem search (ie. "*.example.com/.*"). Also, is there a[REDACTED] policy on this? ie. where does the line fall between adding relevant content and self-promotion? Thanks! Natebailey 00:32, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, there is a policy against it, which is called linkspam. It is at WP:SPAM. Sorry, but I don't think you can search for a specific name to fight. Reywas92 01:08, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- The way to find all instances of a particular spam link is with linksearch. You can use a search function like *.example.com which will find extensions of the name.--Fuhghettaboutit 04:49, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
Link to vote in Meta elections
Could someone please get me a link to the voting at the meta board of trustees election? When I click the link there, it stops me because I don't have 400 edits at meta, but I do here. The link was previously on the watchlist header, but now I can't find that. Thanks! Reywas92 01:05, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- Special:Boardvote is what you need, I believe. – Luna Santin (talk) 01:37, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
New Article (once again)
where do i go to to create a article page ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lil story (talk • contribs)
Freedom od speech, and lack of bigotry!
After the establishment of the joke Conservpedia, I just want to say Thank you to Misplaced Pages for being the information network without prejudice! You give information, not judgement as they do, and that is important!
Thank You
email removed Irene Ward
- You're welcome. Glad to help with this service. -- Kesh 02:31, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- If you like Misplaced Pages, then you should be thankful for the spin-off wikis such as Conservapedia, CreationWiki, Wookiepedia, Strategy Wiki, etc. Spin-off wikis tend to siphon off the decidedly non-neutral topic enthusiasts and promoters of particular points of view, leaving Misplaced Pages freer to pursue its stance of neutrality. If those other wikis did not exist, more non-neutral types would probably stay on Misplaced Pages and fight. Most people who harbor strong beliefs not conclusively supported by the facts experience the following two types of emotion:
- They feel distress when confronted with facts which contradict their beliefs (see: Cognitive dissonance).
- They feel positive emotions when surrounded by people who agree with their beliefs while systematically ignoring any disturbing facts (see: Groupthink).
- Therefore, almost anyone who harbors a strong belief not conclusively supported by the facts is likely to feel less comfortable (possibly much less comfortable) on Misplaced Pages (where many if not most belief systems are represented) than they will feel on a wiki catering to their particular beliefs. Since most people prefer feeling comfortable to feeling uncomfortable, over time this has the effect of encouraging authors who value their beliefs more than they value the facts to leave Misplaced Pages and edit elsewhere. That makes it easier for the remaining Misplaced Pages editors to keep Misplaced Pages focused on the facts.
- While one might deplore the existence of obviously biased wikis, their very existence represents a kind of concession on the part of people whose beliefs turned out to be insufficiently supported by facts to be generally convincing to the diverse community of Wikipedians. Since the facts are the only things the vast majority of people can generally agree on (for example, almost everybody accepts the fact that cutting one's own arm off is a bad idea, unless the situation is such that the alternative would be even worse - we can all agree on that sort of thing), a site like Misplaced Pages which tries hard to limit itself to facts will have the widest possible appeal. The various axe-grinding sites are unlikely to become as popular as Misplaced Pages, and they are unlikely to be as generally useful - because centuries of human experience have shown that beliefs based directly on facts (e.g., science) are more useful than beliefs not based directly on facts (e.g., religion, politics, etc.). As an example, we no longer sacrifice virgins to propitiate the rain gods, because careful analysis by meteorologists found no evidence that sacrificing virgins has any effect on rainfall (and the virgins themselves probably complained). Instead the biased wikis will tend to exist primarily for the entertainment and emotional reinforcement of people who already agree with them. --Teratornis 15:19, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- If you like Misplaced Pages, then you should be thankful for the spin-off wikis such as Conservapedia, CreationWiki, Wookiepedia, Strategy Wiki, etc. Spin-off wikis tend to siphon off the decidedly non-neutral topic enthusiasts and promoters of particular points of view, leaving Misplaced Pages freer to pursue its stance of neutrality. If those other wikis did not exist, more non-neutral types would probably stay on Misplaced Pages and fight. Most people who harbor strong beliefs not conclusively supported by the facts experience the following two types of emotion:
is this template broken
i tried doing Template:Db¦reason on a page and it seems broken
--Gustyfalcon 03:36, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- You placed a pipe | in the wrong place. It's {{db-reason|reason goes here}}. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kesh (talk • contribs).
- {{db}} redirects to {{db-reason}}. The real problem is that your symbol ¦ above and in your test is not a pipe which should be |. Depending on your keyboard, you may get a pipe by holding Alt Gr down and pressing a key near backspace. Or you can click the symbol a little to the right of "Wiki markup" in the box you probably have below the "Save page" button when you edit. PrimeHunter 04:05, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
Internal Links
I am working on an article. When I use a referance like (), I want to link the refarance I have on the page. I am familiar with programming, so feel free to just give me code. I understand that using [[article#section will link to a section, but I want to link to a specific refarance. The article is Job costing. Thank You! MRME4 04:24, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- The code for what you want is <sup>]</sup>, but that's not an efficient method since it will require you manually specify anchors, and there are several better standardized formats. Have you read Misplaced Pages:Footnotes? You can create a fully formatted reference section using <ref> tags by following its directions. --tjstrf talk 04:33, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
Wow! Thank you for your help. I am new to Misplaced Pages and impressed by how robust and powerful it is. Thanks!
- Not a problem, I'm glad to help. The software isn't perfect, but it has a lot of neat features, with more being added all the time and. That's the benefit of open sourcing our software and debug processes. The downside is that difficult but not vital problems and requests take forever, since the devs would usually rather work on their favorite project rather than do drudge work. If you're really interested in programming, you might want to take a look at Misplaced Pages's Bugzilla database. --tjstrf talk 04:48, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- MediaWiki#Release history summarizes some of the more important feature additions. I too was highly impressed by MediaWiki the first time I looked at it enough to grasp some of what it can do. More than a year later, I'm even more impressed (although I'm not impressed with everything; see for example some admitted shortcomings in Help:Search). It's getting hard for me to tolerate many non-wiki Web sites any more, where they don't even let visitors fix typos and so on. However, be aware that on Misplaced Pages you are seeing not only the MediaWiki software, but also (probably) the most highly-developed and best-maintained implementation of it. If you try to start your own wiki by downloading and installing MediaWiki, you will quickly discover how much of the value of Misplaced Pages is in its large and dedicated community of users (called "Wikipedians"). Without a whole bunch of people to add content, write manuals, enforce the policies and guidelines, and combat vandalism, a wiki readily withers into disuse or turns into a mess no matter how sophisticated its software may be. The genius of the MediaWiki software is in how efficiently it enables the Misplaced Pages community to function. Accordingly, the key to replicating some of Misplaced Pages's success on another wiki is in recruiting a community to build and maintain it. Misplaced Pages has the key advantage of being an encyclopedia about everything which is verifiable, and that's a lot. Because Misplaced Pages covers so many topics, it attracts a very large number of contributors, and fortunately the very smart people who started the project figured out the right mix of policies and guidelines to allow the project to grow without becoming entirely deadlocked in Edit warring. Although it may still be a bit early to judge, I suspect Misplaced Pages may eventually be recognized as one of the most significant technological innovations in history, perhaps on par with the World Wide Web itself. --Teratornis 19:29, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
shiraz sistercities
Nicosia -Cypress
chongqing - China
Doshanbe - Tajikistan
- Do you have a question about Misplaced Pages? -- Kesh 05:02, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
User name
How do I change my user name?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Paulbat (talk • contribs) 04:57, July 1, 2007 (UTC)
- You've only got two edits besides this one, so I would suggest simply creating a new account and putting a redirect on your current User page to point to your new account. -- Kesh 05:00, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- The inconveniently named Misplaced Pages:Changing username page provides that function. It has to be done manually though, by a bureaucrat, so it's probably easier for you to just make a new account. (Bureaucrats are like admins, only with additional powers such as promoting admins, changing usernames, and a few other things. We only have like 10 of them or something.) --tjstrf talk 05:04, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the help. I've created a new user. How do I create and add a "redirect"????— Preceding unsigned comment added by Paulbat (talk • contribs) 05:08, July 1, 2007 (UTC)
- Just put this text on your current Userpage:
#REDIRECT ]
- And that should do it. -- Kesh 05:10, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
Ok Kesh.... sorry I have no information re: tight muscles.... However.. re: redirect I'm really stupid here, where on what page do I put it???? It's ok to LYAO. OOOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPPPPs. Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Help_desk"
- If you are Paulbat, then your user page would be at: User:Paulbat. However, you can see that is, at the moment, a red link which means you did not yet make a user page for your "Paulbat" account. Kesh was telling you to put the redirect there. You would do that by clicking this red link: User:Paulbat and editing it to contain the wikitext Kesh gave you above, except of course that you would replace "Newusernamehere" with your new user name. Since you did not tell us your new user name, we cannot tell you exactly what to type. --Teratornis 15:30, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
Muscles
I need to know if you have any information about muscels being so tight that they rasie your hip upward— Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.127.85.221 (talk • contribs) 05:11, July 1, 2007 (UTC)
- Misplaced Pages is not a place to get medical advice. If you're just seeking general information, the reference desk is where to get that info. -- Kesh 05:14, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
Ok Kesh.... sorry I have no information re: tight muscles.... However.. re: redirect I'm really stupid here, where on what page do I put it???? It's ok to LYAO.
- Visit Misplaced Pages:Reference desk/Science and ask your question there, just like you did here. No problem, I won't laugh. :) -- Kesh 05:45, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
Granite Oregon Mayor update
I tried to figure out how to update an article but I am lucky if I get this thing turned on. Your article on Granite Oregon is outdated. As Mayor You have Pat Fielding. The presemt mayor was elected on Nov 7 2004 and took office on Jan 1 2005. and was reelected on Nov 7 2006 His Name Is Fred Neal Corbin. Thank you Fred
- You did pretty well at editting this page. I changed the facts for you. I couldn't find any facts as you as mayor, but you were the fire chief and elections were held. Don't shy away from editting, Be Bold and just click on the "Edit this page" tab at the top, remember that any changes can be reverted, so don't be scared. Tdmg 05:49, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
Use/Mention
I tried to find the FAQ on this question, but I couldn't find it. I was editting the Castle Ashby article, and it started off "Castle Ashby is the name of a civil parish ..." However, I think they meant "Castle Ashby is a civil parish ..." Is this something that deserves editting? I know philosophers care a lot about this, but I don't know about encyclopedias. I'm going to change it, but I'd like some guidance. Tdmg 05:38, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, your version sounds much better. Be bold and fix it! :) -- Kesh 05:47, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
API for searching content?
Is there an API for searching content? I found the MediaWIKI API and Query API but those seem to only deal with titles, not with content at all. I was curious if there was a programmatic way to search article content? pw 06:01, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- WP's search engine is notoriously bad. Hopefully that's something they are working on. LaraLove/C 13:41, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- See WP:DUMP. Probably the most flexible programmatic way to search Misplaced Pages's article content is to download a dump of Misplaced Pages's database and run your own MySQL queries on it. (It is better for your own search speed, and everyone else's server response, if you run programmatic searches against your own local mirror rather than burdening Misplaced Pages's servers. See: mw:Manual:Wiki on a stick for a relatively easy method to set up your own local workstation mirror of Misplaced Pages.) I suspect but do not know for certain that many if not most of the serious Misplaced Pages researchers need such powerful search methods. However, before you go to that much trouble, investigate the options for searching Misplaced Pages with external search engines. Also see semantic wiki and structured wiki for other approaches to organizing wiki information for flexible retrieval. --Teratornis 15:41, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- Also, if you give some specific examples of searches you want to run, we may be able to recommend specific methods. When you ask a question on the Help desk (or on any Internet help forum), it's advisable to state your ultimate goal as clearly as possible, rather than asking about something which is merely one means to an unstated goal (the means may then become a red herring for people who respond to the question). An API approach to searching Misplaced Pages may or may not be the best means to whatever goal you have in mind, but that's hard to know when we don't know what your real goal is. --Teratornis 16:28, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- See WP:DUMP. Probably the most flexible programmatic way to search Misplaced Pages's article content is to download a dump of Misplaced Pages's database and run your own MySQL queries on it. (It is better for your own search speed, and everyone else's server response, if you run programmatic searches against your own local mirror rather than burdening Misplaced Pages's servers. See: mw:Manual:Wiki on a stick for a relatively easy method to set up your own local workstation mirror of Misplaced Pages.) I suspect but do not know for certain that many if not most of the serious Misplaced Pages researchers need such powerful search methods. However, before you go to that much trouble, investigate the options for searching Misplaced Pages with external search engines. Also see semantic wiki and structured wiki for other approaches to organizing wiki information for flexible retrieval. --Teratornis 15:41, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
Filing stubs
¬¬¬¬I have written a stub in the category 'Trinidad and Tobago People Stubs'. Whereas other articles in this category appear in the alphabetical listing by the name of the person, my article appears under 'T' - 'Trinidad and Tobago People Stubs',and NOT under the name of the person, in this case 'Peter Boyd'. Can you please explain how to get it listed properly? I have searched everywhere for this information and cannot find any instructions to this effect. Thank you.
- First, Template:Trinidad-bio-stub needs to be restored. (Apparently you moved it by mistake.) Then transclude the template onto your article - i.e., add {{trinidad-bio-stub}}. If the name still appears out of order, add {{DEFAULTSORT:Whatever}}, where Whatever is the name for sorting purposes. Shalom 09:20, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
Getting Satellite Images
How can I see images of a particular place of my choice ?
- Try Google Maps Dep. Garcia ( Talk + | Help Desk | Complaints ) 09:10, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages editors not eligible to vote in Board Elections?
Although I have 24,000+ edits on the English Misplaced Pages, when I go to the vote page I am told I am ineligible because I do not have enough edits. I am registered on Wiki Commons but have no edits there as I cannot figure out how Wiki Commons works. Does this mean that voting for board members is ruled out for editors on Misplaced Pages only? (I am probably asking this in the wrong place, but it is so hard to know where correct places to ask are. Please forgive me.) Sincerely, Mattisse 10:23, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- Hm, you need to have registered before March 2007 and have at least 400 edits, those are the only requirements I'm aware of, and you've clearly met both of them. Are you following the link from meta, or another project, perhaps? If so, you'll need to go to a project where you do meet the requirements, and visit Special:Boardvote. – Luna Santin (talk) 10:28, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- Voting is possible from all Wikimedia projects, incl. Commons and Meta, however you need to fulfill the rules Luna Santin outlined on the project you vote from. --Mbimmler 10:32, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- I a so very sorry but I do not understand what you are saying. I registered in May of 2006 and have 24,000+ edits. I am following the link at the top of my Watchlist on the English Misplaced Pages to get to the voting. When I do that I am immediately switched to Wiki Commons. If I do not sign in at Wiki Commons, I clearly cannot vote. If I do sign in, I am ineligible. The Special:Boardvote leads me to the same situation. Perhaps people like me are not supposed to vote? Sincerely, Mattisse 10:44, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- You definately should be able to vote. Just click on Special:Boardvote at the english Misplaced Pages and you should be redirected to a page on Meta. This page should say "Welcome Mattisse@enwiki!" at the top. It will then have instructions on voting etc. Does this happen for you? Raven4x4x 13:44, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- Actually it isn't meta, it is an external site. There is a security warning you will need to click to open the page. Log in here, go to Special:Boardvote, wait 20 seconds, click to accept the security certificate, and then click vote. I believe you may also need an email set, but that shouldn't be a problem. Prodego 18:35, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- You definately should be able to vote. Just click on Special:Boardvote at the english Misplaced Pages and you should be redirected to a page on Meta. This page should say "Welcome Mattisse@enwiki!" at the top. It will then have instructions on voting etc. Does this happen for you? Raven4x4x 13:44, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- I a so very sorry but I do not understand what you are saying. I registered in May of 2006 and have 24,000+ edits. I am following the link at the top of my Watchlist on the English Misplaced Pages to get to the voting. When I do that I am immediately switched to Wiki Commons. If I do not sign in at Wiki Commons, I clearly cannot vote. If I do sign in, I am ineligible. The Special:Boardvote leads me to the same situation. Perhaps people like me are not supposed to vote? Sincerely, Mattisse 10:44, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
¡¡Still Having Trouble with Images !!
I already know how to upload a file, but ¿¿how do tell its uploaded?? And how do i create my own signiture and templtes? user:naj da man
- Creating your own signature can be done by going into Special:Preferences and adding HTML coding into the Raw signature filed and checking the below it, if the tags are incorrect it will tell you this, if its suitable it wil save them for you once you click save. When uploading images via Special:Upload it will appear on screen when successfully uploaded so you can click the watch tab by the edit this page icon or you can see it at or Special:Log/upload. Hope this helps. The Sunshine Man is now Qst 12:33, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
Spam
Do we report people who are spamming external links to WP:AIV? Recurring dreams 11:46, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- If people are spamming articles with inappropriate external links then you can warn them using the correct user warning templates and if they spam after there fourth and final warning they can be reported to AIV but the warnings have to be within a close period of each other. Regards --The Sunshine Man is now Qst 12:28, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- If you are interested in fighting spam then see Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Spam. PrimeHunter 12:31, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
Question
I am a designer and builder of a few medical type components that connect to a PC via USB. there are many terms used on my sites that are not comonly used by the average individual. i was wondering if i have rights to use your link pages on my site? or what i have to do in order to add your links legally
sincerely,
Ab Baum.
- Hi. I think Citing Misplaced Pages would be helpful to you. LaraLove/C 13:39, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- If you merely link a jargon term to its Misplaced Pages article, I don't think you have to do anything special. That is, I don't think Misplaced Pages exerts any control over who may merely link to articles here. (Can any site exert such control? That is, does copyright protection extend to URLs themselves, apart from the pages they link to? If so, that would be news to me.) However, if you want to mirror Misplaced Pages content on your site, see WP:MIRROR and the pages it links to. If you want to cite Misplaced Pages as a reference, for example in your scholarly works, then Citing Misplaced Pages applies. I'm not an attorney, so consult one if you want to be sure. Also see meta:James explains law. --Teratornis 14:17, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
my talk page
Am I allowed to add images on my talk page? Spinkanini 13:20, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- Yes you are, but only images which are under a free license (eg. GFDL) or public domain. Fair use copyrighted images cannot be used on your talk page. Will (aka Wimt) 13:26, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- OK, thanks. Spinkanini 13:28, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
Problems updating Scott Hirsch entry.
I sighted references that I sourced the facts from but it still says no sources or references sighted. do i need to do something else to cite sources? I even provided direct links. How does this get updated and wickified? How do I insert a table of contents?
- I removed the template. Look over WP:MOS for guidelines on style. A table of contents will appear automatically when your article has a list of contents to display. Currently, you have no headings, thus no need for a TOC. Wikification is the linking of words to other articles, as I did above with WP:MOS. See WP:MOS#Wikilinking for more details. Also, the templates on the page automatically add the article to a list of articles needing each of those things stated in the templates. So if you don't make the necessary changes, someone else may come along and do it. However, those lists have huge backlogs so it may be a while. LaraLove/C 13:34, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- See WP:RS, WP:CITE, WP:CITET, WP:WIKIFY, and Help:Section#Table of contents (TOC). Almost everything you need to know about Misplaced Pages is somewhere in the manuals. However, Misplaced Pages is an enormously complicated project; the manuals are therefore long and you have to spend much time reading them if you want to contribute productively here. This is actually much better than in many areas of real life, where most of the necessary instructions aren't written down anywhere that we can find. You only have to spend a few months being confused on Misplaced Pages, whereas real life is confusing for up to 80 years or so. --Teratornis 14:05, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
RFA
Are anons allowed to participate in RFA'S? 81.132.77.133 14:00, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, with limitations. You can't participate in the Support, Oppose, Neutral, but anons are encouraged to participate in the discuission section. --Evilclown93(talk) 14:01, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
Protecting a deleted page
How can one protect a deleted page to prevent recreation? I tried to do this on my personal wiki, but the protect button disappeared after I deleted the page. SalaSkan 14:45, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- There are three methods that I know of, see WP:SALT. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 15:06, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- Cheers! SalaSkan 15:39, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
pages
how do you start your own page?
- See Misplaced Pages:Creating a new article -- Kainaw 17:01, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- If you mean your own user page, see Help:User page. On Misplaced Pages, "page" and "article" do not quite mean the same thing (all articles are pages, but not all pages are articles; set theorists will recognize that type of relationship as involving a superset and a subset). See: WP:WIAA. --Teratornis 17:18, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- Also note that Misplaced Pages:Creating a new article is a copy of the generic MediaWiki help page: m:Help:Starting a new page; it focuses more on how to create a new article, and less on whether you should create whatever new article you may have in mind. Experience shows that many new users come to Misplaced Pages with incorrect assumptions of what belongs here. The result is that Misplaced Pages deletes up to several pages per minute. Be aware that many new articles by new users end up getting deleted. Articles which "stick" are subject to heavy editing by others. Therefore, before you spend hours editing a new article here, be sure you can write the kind of article Misplaced Pages wants, and you are comfortable with the idea that large numbers of people you will never meet can edit your work in ways you cannot control. If you aren't sure about your idea, ask us. --Teratornis 17:32, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- If you mean your own user page, see Help:User page. On Misplaced Pages, "page" and "article" do not quite mean the same thing (all articles are pages, but not all pages are articles; set theorists will recognize that type of relationship as involving a superset and a subset). See: WP:WIAA. --Teratornis 17:18, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
using WinZip
how do i use winzip or winrar?
- The Help Desk is intended to help editors use Misplaced Pages. For non-Misplaced Pages questions, see the Reference Desk. Shadow1 (talk) 17:17, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- Start by reading winzip and winrar. If you cannot figure out how to use these programs by reading their articles on Misplaced Pages, follow the links from those articles which usually guide you to user manuals and so on. If reading the manuals isn't enough, ask on the Reference desk. --Teratornis 17:20, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
Health care '08
I made an article for healthcare '08 then decided it would be better if I actually spelled it right so made the same thing for health care '08...so I would like someone to delete the first one.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kenziejoy (talk • contribs)
- Actually the proper way to rename articles is to follow the procedure in WP:MOVE. The idea is that we need to preserve the history of pages we rename. Hopefully an administrator will see this question and clean things up. --Teratornis 19:04, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
ethnicity of Jane Mago with the federal government
Who is Jane Mago with the Federal Government, and what is the origin of the name Mago?
- Try searching on Google or asking at the reference desk. We don't have an article on Jane Mago. Shalom 19:32, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
Protected image?
I'm trying to fix Image:Types_of_Carbon_Nanotubes.png which appears to have been corrupted in March 2007. I have the fixed image on my disk, but I have no idea how to upload it so that it replaces the old one -- neither on Misplaced Pages nor on Wikimedia Commons... The upload link seems to be missing on both sites, so perhaps the image is protected somehow? How could I request unprotection? --Ma Baker 19:58, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- First of all, the image looks perfectly fine to me. But if I'm not seeing what you're seeing, you should leave a note at the administrators' noticeboard requesting an admin to move an image to make way for uploading a new image. Someone whould be able to help you or to indicate that it's not necessary. Shalom 20:38, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply; the issue is that the lower 20% or so of the image is completely black so the lower tubes are truncated and their legends are missing. --Ma Baker 20:49, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- The image was hosted on commons, that's probably the reason why you couldn't upload it. I did the upload for you (and credited you in the licensing part, I didn't know how to do it) -- lucasbfr 22:59, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply; the issue is that the lower 20% or so of the image is completely black so the lower tubes are truncated and their legends are missing. --Ma Baker 20:49, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
Reproducing parts of text
How do I go about reproducing images for use in a book I am writing? Is there a special form which needs to be filed?
- This is the Misplaced Pages Help Desk, intended for help on using Misplaced Pages. Misplaced Pages does not hold copyright on any information or images on its site. If you would like to use an image, you should contact the source of that image. If the image is in the public domain, you are free to use it however you like. Many images here are under free licenses - you should consult the terms of those licenses to determine how they can be used elsewhere and who to give credit to. Hersfold 01:20, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
How to ask for editing RED ARMY CRIMES category articles help?
My English is not fluent enough. I would like to ask for editing help for the whole category articles, but my entry to help desk becouse of unknown reasons was blocked. Ttturbo 22:18, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- It was not blocked, and in fact is still visible on this page. -- Kesh 23:25, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, but when I've marked my page by {help} it was removed soon threatening to ban me if I ask again. Is it possible to ask for editing help for all category?
- Ttturbo 23:32, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- The help template is always removed when someone comes to help you. That's standard practice on Misplaced Pages. You were warned, not for asking for help, but for trying to push your own opinions and accusing other editors of crimes. -- Kesh 23:37, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- This was not true. I've asked for some editing help and information about redirecting, but help mark was removed without any explanations and threatening -please don't disrupt ant don't attack me accusing in not telling the truth!. Remeber please general warning about responsibility.
Ttturbo 00:37, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
- (reduce indent) This user has made some uncivil remarks in the past (example here). His article is currently under deletion, and he needs help editing with the article so that the article will survive deletion. In my opinion, this is a point of view related help. Miranda 02:21, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
- One of the accusations in the voting debate for deleting was poor language, and Miranda says -don't edit the article for deleting. So, Miranda continues disruptive personal attack against me - the author of category Red Army crimes articles.Ttturbo 09:50, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
Red Army crimes article is not fluent enough. Please, help.
Ttturbo 00:37, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
how can i delete my profile?
how can i delete my profile?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.153.232.98 (talk • contribs).
- If your mean your user page, you can log in and add the {{db-user}} template to the page. An administrator will be along shortly to delete it if appropriate. Your contributions to other pages cannot generally be deleted. -- zzuuzz 22:57, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
It seems this question is often asked, is it on the FAQ? Kevinwong913 23:55, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- A variation of this question is in the very FAQ -- zzuuzz 00:13, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
Alignment
Hi
How do I get an unbulleted but indented paragraph to align properly in a bulleted list?
- The obvious idea
- which is this
- Doesn't work
Matt 22:47, 1 July 2007 (UTC).
This works:
- A bullet,
another line - Another bullet
But the coding is weird:
*A bullet,<br/>another line *Another bullet
Can't think of anything else though... tiZom(2¢) 00:57, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
- The other way involves a colon and another indent:
- item
- item
- item
- item
- item
- item
- item
It does basically the same thing as your working example does - it puts a newline character into a list item. Your code is easier, and I think, is better HTML. -- zzuuzz 02:33, 2 July 2007 (UTC) -- zzuuzz 02:33, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
Positions vacant deepartment
We are a foreign company based in China Foshan City and wish to employ students recently graduated from your electronic marketing classes
Can you direct me where to look on any of your web sites
Thanking you
Bill Dryburgh
- This is the[REDACTED] help desk, we help users understand how to use[REDACTED] and it's functions. We don't have any electronic marketing classes as we are not a college or a university - therefore we don't have any pages that contain that information or any students. --Fredrick day 23:14, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
- The questioner may have been reading a Misplaced Pages article about a trade school of some sort, possibly mistaking Misplaced Pages's Help desk as the contact point for that school. Misplaced Pages is a free online encyclopedia that (almost) anyone can edit. Misplaced Pages has many articles about schools (among other things). Most school articles here should have one or more links that you can follow to find contact information for the school. Unfortunately I know of no way to determine which article the questioner might have been viewing, so unless he tells us the name of the school we cannot give him more clues about how to contact them. --Teratornis 06:04, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
- This is the[REDACTED] help desk, we help users understand how to use[REDACTED] and it's functions. We don't have any electronic marketing classes as we are not a college or a university - therefore we don't have any pages that contain that information or any students. --Fredrick day 23:14, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
book as a source
I recently started a page on a character from a book series known as the Dresden Files. The character's name is Thomas Raith. It is not complete, but already there are messages saying I haven't cited my sources. My sources are the books themselves, and I am not sure what the exact format is for citing the books. Could someone tell me what the format is?
- You could use {{cite book}}. tiZom(2¢) 00:53, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for that, that will help for the actual citation. Something else I was wondering, though. Do I create a footnote, and then post the citation at the bottom with a footnote attached? I am pretty sure I don't just post the citation in the middle of the text...
- Yes, you should enclose the citation with the <ref> and </ref> tags. This will create one of those little , which will link you to the actual citation at the bottom of the article, where you should place the <references/> code. See WP:CITE or WP:FOOT for more information. Hersfold 01:11, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
picture of the day
how do I submit a photo to be considered for the picture of the day?
- The picture of the day (POTD) is chosen among a list of featured pictures. To try to get a picture to be featured, it absolutely must be a free picture (as in, it is either Public Domain, GFDL, Creative Commons, etc.). If it is licensed freely, then check out the featured picture criteria to make sure it meets the standards. If you feel that it does, then follow the directions to nominate it. Fellow editors will vote on it, and if consensus rules in its favor, it will become a Featured picture, and will soon be Picture of the Day.
- It's a tough process, I know... but it is what keeps the POTDs the best of the best. :o) tiZom(2¢) 02:01, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
Father Mark Mary's Homily on Concupicence
We are looking for a copy of the Father Mark Mary's Homily on Concupicence. This was presented at Mass on EWTN.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.97.150.34 (talk • contribs).
- Have you tried Misplaced Pages's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Misplaced Pages, since that's what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps.--Fuhghettaboutit 02:38, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
canada law for information for Freedom of information
pl what is status canadian law for freedom of information for canda law for information to citizens and what are key persons to cotact.220.224.41.98 02:46, 2 July 2007 (UTC) anil anil_1949@hotmail.com
- Have you tried Misplaced Pages's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Misplaced Pages, since that's what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps.--Fuhghettaboutit 02:52, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
administration
I saw somewhere about administrators. How does one become one? Does one apply for the job at the Misplaced Pages offices? Does one have to have some previous work experience as either a writer or in management? Polounit 02:54, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
- No, you don't need any outside experience or anything. And no, you don't have to go to the offices. Experienced users (usually at least 4 months at 4,000 edits) run at Requests for adminship, and other users decide whether or not they should become an admin. It's not a job, and you don't get paid :). I would suggest you don't apply now, as you're not that experienced. You're welcome to voice your opinion on other requests though. --(Review Me) R Contribs@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 02:59, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
- The rule of thumb is that you have to have been here long enough and done enough to display that you are trustworthy and knowledgeable about policy. How you do that may differ from editor to editor. Leebo /C 03:36, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
- Perhaps the first requirement for being an administrator is to know one's way around the manuals well enough not to have to ask how to become an administrator. Not to be rude about it, but Misplaced Pages is very much a document-driven project, so learning the manuals in depth would be an essential first step toward becoming an administrator, and one of the manuals one would come across in the course of reading all that material would be Misplaced Pages:Administrators. For (lots) more information see the Administrators: entry just below User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Misplaced Pages#Adm. --Teratornis 06:13, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
- The rule of thumb is that you have to have been here long enough and done enough to display that you are trustworthy and knowledgeable about policy. How you do that may differ from editor to editor. Leebo /C 03:36, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
swap mislabeled pix
Two related images – Image:Elongated alternated cubic honeycomb.png and Image:Gyroelongated alternated cubic honeycomb.png – got mixed up. Ideally, they'd be swapped, so that articles which cite the wrong illustrations by the right names would be correct. Can that be done? —Tamfang 03:01, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
- There's actually a difference between those two illustrations? Anyways, just re-upload each image, but save it under the correct name. You will be prompted to overwrite the existing image, which is what you want, so go ahead.
Jim Dunning | talk 05:13, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
cladistics
The top portion of the 1st page can't be edited but contains 2 factual errors. Cladistics does indee use morphological similarities, i.e., in those analyses based on phenotypic(classical, nonmolecular) evidence. Also, DNA sequencing is not "so-called", Molecular data, it is, indeed, molecular data. Futher on it does not mention that many cladists consider paraphyly as polyphyly which it is. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.156.205.19 (talk)
- Click "edit this page" at the top of Cladistics to edit the lead. Note that changed information should be based on Misplaced Pages:Reliable sources. I don't know the field. PrimeHunter 03:45, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
I need an opinion/advice here.
For the past weeks, I've been trying to improve the fictional character article of Shego, trying to rise it to a Good Article and maybe to a Featured Article someday. Now, while the other users and me have managed to improve the article, there's a dispute I'm not sure how to handle.
Among all the sections of the article, I decided to put Personality, Appearance and Powers and abilities as subsections of a Characteristic section. My reasons for doing so is that, by doing it that way, it's possible to archive everything about the character's usual and present characteristics into one section, while I believe that the less Main Sections, the better. But there is another user that claims that that doesn't really contribute to the article, and so is the dispute.
I tried to research about how should this be done in the Manual of Style, but it didn't help. Does someone knows how should it be done? Or can at least give me an opinion?
Already thanks for whatever help I got. --Alexlayer 03:55, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
- The Help Desk really isn't the place for editorial dispute resolution, but here are some suggestions. It certainly appears that the editors working on this article have had a productive set of discussions going, so consider following that route further. You've only been addressing the issue for a couple days, so give it more time and see if other editors weigh in to help gain Consensus. You might try contacting some other editors who have worked on the article before and ask them for input; make sure you do so neutrally without pushing a POV too strongly (solicit objective assessments). Along the same line, use the resources at WikiProject Films or WikiProject Television and ask for ideas on the Talk pages there. If you haven't done so already, check out similar articles and evaluate their formats in light of your goals. I hope these ideas are helpful. Good luck.
Jim Dunning | talk 04:16, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
- I wasn't actually asking for how to solve this dispute, but about what should be done with the heading sections, as if there is any style that should be followed about that, and/or if I'm right with my opinion of "The less main section, the better". --Alexlayer 04:33, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
- The beauty of WP is that there usually are no set format requirements. Did I mention that's often cited as the irritating part of WP, too? How you handle the headings and sections is really up to you and the other editors (and thus falling outside the realm of "how to use WP"). Often times the Project pages will provide guidelines, but I don't see anything there that can help you on this one. I still suggest reviewing as many similar-topic articles as you can and build consensus that way. I hope I'm addressing your question.
Jim Dunning | talk 04:49, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
- The beauty of WP is that there usually are no set format requirements. Did I mention that's often cited as the irritating part of WP, too? How you handle the headings and sections is really up to you and the other editors (and thus falling outside the realm of "how to use WP"). Often times the Project pages will provide guidelines, but I don't see anything there that can help you on this one. I still suggest reviewing as many similar-topic articles as you can and build consensus that way. I hope I'm addressing your question.
- Yeah, thanks for the help, and sorry for bothering. --Alexlayer 05:35, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
- I'm sorry I'm not addressing your issue. Jim 05:40, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
- Aw, c'mon, don't be. You tried to help ^_^ --Alexlayer 05:47, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
- I'm sorry I'm not addressing your issue. Jim 05:40, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, thanks for the help, and sorry for bothering. --Alexlayer 05:35, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
- WP:LAYOUT describes standard Misplaced Pages article sections. That may or may not help you here. To find a good layout for a certain type of article, look at other well-edited articles of similar type. To find such articles, look at the relevant categories and WikiProjects. Hopefully the article is already categorized into the relevant categories, and the relevant WikiProjects should be listed on the article's talk page. Given that Shego is a cartoon character, there should be many similar articles to use as models. Obviously it is more productive for editors to agree on one basic structure for all articles of a given type, than to argue over the details of every one of them individually (without reference to all the others which have been argued about). --Teratornis 06:25, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
lost password for an account made long time ago, wihout providing email
Hello Is any chance to recover a password for an account I made long time ago and for wich I did not provide an email address? How can I prove that I made it? Of course, I cand make another account, but I use this nickname on almost every site. Thank you Catalin
- Create another account. If you still love your old user name so much, make a request at WP:CHU/U to change your new acc username to the old one (in case you old acc has no contributions). Best wishes. AW 04:19, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, it looks like there were a couple edits if this is your account. This will preclude you from "usurping" the account. Also, you'd have to establish yourself as a regular user before making the request. Best suggestion at this point is try logging in using favorite passwords from four years ago (or go for a whole new persona — change is good). Good luck.
Jim Dunning | talk 04:37, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, it looks like there were a couple edits if this is your account. This will preclude you from "usurping" the account. Also, you'd have to establish yourself as a regular user before making the request. Best suggestion at this point is try logging in using favorite passwords from four years ago (or go for a whole new persona — change is good). Good luck.
Southhampton in England
What is the closest airport to Durley in Southhampton in England?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.47.149.67 (talk • contribs) 04:39, July 2, 2007 (UTC)
- Misplaced Pages is not a travel guide, and this page is for questions about Misplaced Pages itself. That said, I suggest searching Google Maps. -- Kesh 04:45, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
- This is the type of question one could answer with a geographic wiki. Which, unfortunately, Misplaced Pages isn't quite yet. You might try downloading Google Earth and the Misplaced Pages layers for it, and see if there is a way to display the locations of airport articles near Durley. Or see Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Geographical coordinates#Visualization of Misplaced Pages articles with Google Maps which links to the interesting PINTOMAP. It was easy enough to zoom in on Southampton and find Durley on the map. Southampton Airport looks to be about 5 km to the west of Durley. That seems to be the closest airport I see on the PINTOMAP, but I have no idea how complete the airport coverage is on that map. The data on Google Maps might be more complete. --Teratornis 06:45, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
excel information
what is a defination of excel — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.200.68.23 (talk • contribs) 05:16, July 2, 2007 UTC (UTC)
- If you're referring to the definition of the word "excel", try www.wiktionary.org. This is the Help Desk for using Misplaced Pages, not providing word definitions. If you're talking about Microsoft Excel (the spreadsheet software), try the Misplaced Pages article about it.
Jim Dunning | talk 05:25, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages
When i use the Misplaced Pages recently, the page expands larger into the right. When i go look into the right there is just blank white. I just changed to Internet Explorer 7 so does that affect that. Maybe your site doesnt support IE 7! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.28.149.205 (talk • contribs) 05:48, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
- AFAIK Misplaced Pages is compatible with all major internet browsers, new and old. Some particular pages, such as page widening, are formatted in ways that require left to right scrolling. Shalom 06:36, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
how can i make a page?
how can i make a page?
- It depends what kind of page. Try reading Misplaced Pages:Your first article. Shalom 06:34, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
loading, sharing & editing PowerPoint or Impress files
Our organization has an internal xxxipedia running for knowledge management and collaboration. Unfortunately PowerPoint (alternate:Impress) has a firm foothold within the organization and we would like to be able to load / share / edit PowerPoint files/slides. Any thoughts on how this could be achieved using the existing MediaWiki engine ?
Rzyzkc 07:26, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
standard English/common dictionary
I recently edited the two instances of the word 'underwhelming' out of the article on Major League Soccer. The first I replaced with disappointing, the second was just removed. I did a quick google search 'define: underwhelm' which returned no results--this confirmed my suspicion that 'underwhelm' is a creative, but non-standard word. I left an edit summary to that effect. An editor then left a note on my talk page which subtly accused me of prescriptive language-mongering, pointing me to the fact that the word is included in Merriam-Webster's online dictionary. This inspired me to look a bit deeper: I found the word listed in dictionary.com as well, along with a note declaring the word 'informal.' Before I respond to the particular editor, I want to find out more about standard wording. Is there a dictionary that[REDACTED] considers authoritative? It seems clear to me that words like 'underwhelm' are perhaps akin to plenty of other neologisms that would be perfectly acceptable in the[REDACTED] of the future (once these words have become standardized), but I don't know the best way to take this up with the other editor, nor am I aware of wikipedia's policy concerning dictionary differences.
Joshua Crowgey 08:25, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
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