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::Just so you know, Asher has been indef blocked as the sockpuppet of a blocked user. He is in his early teens, but he blew another chance. Give him a few years and he could be a productive contributor. People found him disruptive before, and it looked like things haven't changed. ] 13:25, 3 August 2007 (UTC) ::Just so you know, Asher has been indef blocked as the sockpuppet of a blocked user. He is in his early teens, but he blew another chance. Give him a few years and he could be a productive contributor. People found him disruptive before, and it looked like things haven't changed. ] 13:25, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
:::Thanks for the update. --] 13:29, 3 August 2007 (UTC) :::Thanks for the update. --] 13:29, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

==Speaking of ]==
I suggest that you keep your own hands squeaky clean and remove the veiled personal attack in the warning box at the top of your user page. Keep your harassing comments off my talk page.--] 20:38, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

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My first name is Bob and I graduated from Texas A&M in 1978 with a B.S. in Dairy Science is an SHA-512 commitment to this user's real-life identity.*


Warning Warning: According to one editor (here) reading User:Justanother's posts may cause you to literally become brainwashed, presumably because these posts contain Secret Subliminal Scientology Mojo®.

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Mot du jour

I tend to latch on to a "new" word and overuse it just 'cause I like it so much. Sometimes the word is just so apropos and sometimes it just tickles me to use.

Yeoman's Award for Lifetime Service

This year's Yeoman's Award goes to an unassuming word whose quiet manner belies its strength and usefulness. This word is not fancy or esoteric, it doesn't even end with "ous", but when you need a word to describe anything from an edit to an editor to an administrative action and you want to do it in a manner that can rarely be called into question, few words will serve. This is one of those words. Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you . . .

inappropriate

Today's word

Gratuitous
Etymology: Latin gratuitus, from gratus
-adjective
1 a : given unearned or without recompense b : not involving a return benefit, compensation, or consideration c : costing nothing : FREE
2 : not called for by the circumstances : UNWARRANTED <gratuitous insolence> <a gratuitous assumption>
(http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/gratuitous)

Previous words

Polemic
Etymology: French polémique, from Middle French, from polemique controversial, from Greek polemikos warlike, hostile, from polemos war; perhaps akin to Greek pelemizein to shake, Old English ealfelo baleful
–noun
1 a : an aggressive attack on or refutation of the opinions or principles of another b : the art or practice of disputation or controversy -- usually used in plural but sing. or plural in constr.
2 : an aggressive controversialist : DISPUTANT
–adjective
1 : of, relating to, or being a polemic : CONTROVERSIAL
2 : engaged in or addicted to polemics : DISPUTATIOUS
(http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/polemic)

Taint

Candidate words

vociferous

acrimonious

and the ever-popular, mendacious

The 'Ous family.

A suggestion

I have a suggestion, which I'm hereby spamming on the talkpages of Smee, Justanother, Lsi John, and Anynobody. (Hi, Lsi John, I don't think we've met.) I don't really expect it to pan out, as it depends on four people agreeing to do something. But please give my proposal some thought before rejecting it, guys. I think some of you might otherwise be headed for the less dignified fate of a community page ban from WP:AN and ANI. My suggestion has two legs:

  • First, that you all voluntarily agree to stop posting on WP:AN/ANI. Conditionally on the other three doing the same. The way you're going on now isn't doing some of your reputations—or, I bet, stress levels—any good. Smee and Justanother, you're boring everybody. Most of the time, those ANI threads of yours aren't really requests for admin action—which is what the noticeboards are for—they're simply, well, self-expression. And as such, they seem to be getting more and more extreme. For instance, Smee, where do you get off claiming Justanother is in the habit of violating WP:TROLL? And Justanother, when you say Smee has "a history of complaints for tendentious editing," don't you mean a history of complaints from you, hmm?
  • Secondly, that you also stop posting on each other's user talk pages, other than by express invitation. From what I've seen, you're not really discussing articles there, you know? You're, essentially, trying to make each other look bad. In good faith, no doubt. But what's the point?

Note that I realize Anynobody and Lsi John haven't posted excessively on ANI at all (that I've seen). So in a sense it's unfair to ask them to stop. But obviously—well, it's obvious to me—it wouldn't work to shut out Smee and Justanother while leaving the other two free to take over some of their, uh, functions at the noticeboard. So I'm simply asking Anynobody and Lsi John nicely to do this for the general good and everybody's peace of mind including their own.

So am I suggesting that you stop discussing stuff with each other? No, not at all. I only think it's time to stop discussing your resentments and each other's characters and past histories. As for editing and articles, those are best discussed on article talk pages. It's up to you, collectively. Could you just think about it, please? Wouldn't it leave you a lot of lovely spare time? Mightn't it even be a relief?

Please let me know ASAP if I've missed any editor that in your opinion ought to be included here. And then please take your time to consider my proposal, and let me know if you're up for it. A simple yes or no will do me, in fact I prefer it. You don't have to feel I expect an explanation of the stand you take. And feel free to accept the AN/ANI deal but not the usertalk deal, or vice versa. Best wishes, Bishonen | talk 19:57, 14 May 2007 (UTC).

Thank you, Bishonen, for your kind interest and intervention. Yes, I agree (almost) unconditionally to stop posting to AN/ANI about Smee or Anynobody and to refrain from posting to their talk pages unless expressly invited to. That said, there is a third condition that might help the situation and that is that Smee and Anynobody (and Lsi john and myself) stop having conversations on our talk pages about the other pair; in effect stop turning our talk pages into some sort of "virtual AN/I" in the hopes that other editors and admins are watching. In furtherance of that, and to take the first step, I will remove my latest "position piece" from my user page. Oh, and that (almost)? I reserve the right to comment in AN/ANI cases brought by these parties against other editors but I will endeavor to limit my comments to the charges, not try to turn the tables against the accuser. Does that sound fair? --Justanother 20:12, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
Excellent call, Justanother. I originally meant quite literally not post on AN/ANI, not post at all. But I'm beginning to think that posting about one another is all that should be asked (Lsi John has just responded to that effect on my page, too). So I'm content with your conditions.
Oh, you've been trolling AN and S by having talkpage conversations with LJ...? And vice versa? Oh, man. Thanks for calling it to my attention, and yes, I do agree that everybody needs to stop that, too. For badmouthing each other, please use e-mail only. ;-) I'm going to assume that S, AN, LJ will read this. And thank you very much, Justanother, for giving my attempt such an encouraging start. Bishonen | talk 21:09, 14 May 2007 (UTC).
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Great! And you would be hard-pressed to find a talk page discussion between LJ and I about "the enemy". Sadly, the reciprocal cannot be claimed but perhaps a new day is on the horizon. Father Mathew Remedy works wonders! Not to discount your kind assistance. --Justanother 21:48, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

References

These are just some references as I come across them.

General on Scientology

Sect Commissioner

How do I handle a vandal.

There is a guy deleting stuff from the Scientology main page.Bravehartbear 00:47, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Hey Bear. I am going to give you a bit of a lesson here so please take it in the spirit it is offered, a spirit of help.
1. Please be very slow to characterize another editor's work as vandalism. I saw no vandalism there. You would not appreciate someone calling your edits vandalism or calling you a vandal.
2. Always look carefully to make sure that you understand an edit before you revert it or undo it. It looked to me that the editor was not deleting material, he was changing it into smaller paragraphs but little, if anything, was deleted.
3. Just a tip. Look at the edit history and the number next to each revision is the number of bytes in the article as of that revision. One byte = one letter or space. The entire set of (4) edits removed a total of 30 characters and I could not easily see what exactly was removed, probably nothing of substance. (I saw "methodology" changed to "way", for one.)
So learn from your errors and carry on. That is what we all do here.
And if you run into a real vandal, see WP:VANDAL for how to handle that though you are welcome to ask me for advice anytime. --Justanother 01:53, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Yes I mess up. Bravehartbear 02:43, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your contributions and Sorry for my ignorance

Sorry, that I mistrusted all your contributions so badly that I didn't even read some of them fully. I think your contribution was an improvement here. I shouldn't have started arguing! As I began to contribute to the Scientology article, myself and my contributions were attacked in a highly uncivil way and I started to think in "good/bad editors" categories. I will try to be more carefull in my "do-not-assume-good-faith judgements" to editors which oppose my "POV/NPOV". Hope we can stay civil on controversial topics although we may have different POV's on this subject. -- Stan talk 22:50, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

No prob, Stan. My only objection is to editors that perpetuate common lies and misrepresentations about Scientology. I know that BT does not do that and so I was happy to come over and work with him. Hopefully I can add you to that list. --Justanother 23:03, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Who is BT ? -- Stan talk 23:11, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, BTfromLA, he started that thread. --Justanother 23:15, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Spam?

I don't think Common-Nation.com is spam. It is the most trusted name is news. AsherUSA 18:41, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi Asher. Nice site you have there. --Justanother 18:49, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
Just so you know, Asher has been indef blocked as the sockpuppet of a blocked user. He is in his early teens, but he blew another chance. Give him a few years and he could be a productive contributor. People found him disruptive before, and it looked like things haven't changed. Royalbroil 13:25, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the update. --Justanother 13:29, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Speaking of WP:PA

I suggest that you keep your own hands squeaky clean and remove the veiled personal attack in the warning box at the top of your user page. Keep your harassing comments off my talk page.--Fahrenheit451 20:38, 3 August 2007 (UTC)