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:I would like to affirm what ''']''' has said. If you persist in restoring old versions of articles, complete with grammatical errors, as you did for the ] article, it will have to be considered as vandalism, and not proper editing. You have been warned. To reaffirm: ''Afghan'' (less often ''Afghani'') is the proper English adjective for the people, not ''Afghanistani''. If you wish to dispute that, please do so at ].  --] 16:50, 8 August 2007 (UTC) :I would like to affirm what ''']''' has said. If you persist in restoring old versions of articles, complete with grammatical errors, as you did for the ] article, it will have to be considered as vandalism, and not proper editing. You have been warned. To reaffirm: ''Afghan'' (less often ''Afghani'') is the proper English adjective for the people, not ''Afghanistani''. If you wish to dispute that, please do so at ].  --] 16:50, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

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List of image copyright tags

Hey I saw the Latif Pedram picture you uploaded but it is not GFDL license and the Admins check it and they deleted it. Here are a list of different types of licesenses you can use. Click on one type then it will show you all the different lisences for that type. Then copy and paste the tag { { ________ } } and paste it onto the image's page. Here they are http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Image_copyright_tags#List_of_image_copyright_tags--Behnam 06:25, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

But I don't think there is any way we can use that picture. It is copyrighted with the BBC. But its ok, we already got a picture. --Behnam 06:27, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Khorasan TV

Hello. Please see if you can add anything to this new article I opened about Khorasan TV. --Behnam 17:40, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Also please see the Hamid Qaderi article and see if you can add anything there. Thanks. --Behnam 06:22, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

re: Hamed Qaderi

Yeah sure, honestly I was actually just about to do that . --Behnam 07:37, 10 July 2007 (UTC)


vandalism

please don't vandalise articles that people waste precious time to edit. there is no such way where you can convince others to believe that afghanistani is the correct word, they all know that it is "afghan" because most people in the world are very familiar with afghanistan, it has long history and many 1,000s of books written on afghanistan and the history of afghanistan. as i see your actions, on the one hand you don't seem to like "afghanistan" and "afghans", then on the other hand, you want afghanistan to be part of greater iran? you should at least make up your mind.Mirrori1 01:08, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

I would like to mirror the comments above. My additions were actually improvements on the article. You reverted both my deletion of the "Afghanistani" nonsense as well as my rewrite of the Languages section. I even provided an excerpt from Amanullah Khan's constitution. Every constitution since then mirrors this declaration. I can understand you putting the "Afghanistani" garbage back given your slanted views on Afghanistan. However, the Languages rewrite was a VAST improvement over what it had been. Please provide me one good reason why you reverted that to the older text. 22:13, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

about afghanistan

i agree that ahmad shah abdali was ruler of khorassan, he was also ruler of the province of punjab in india, province of sind, province of balochistan, province of kashmir, province of balkh, etcm but he was mainly king of afghanistan (as what is today known as pashtunistan or pashtunkhaw). he became king in kandahar city, which was a city that was the capital of afghanistan (pashtunistan), so therefore, he is known as king of afghanistan to everyone. during his rule, he enlarged the original afghanistan (pashtunistan) to a bigger state (durrani empire or greater afghanistan), during the process of enlarging afghanistan as a bigger state, all the people (pashtuns and non-pashtuns) agreed to conditions that all would be equal citizens regardless of race or ethnicity and all would be ***afghans nationals*** (called as "afghans" because of the name of the state). however, there were conditions that if they chose not to call themselves "afghans" then they can still be equal citizens and they may use their own ethnical name such as tajiks, uzbeks, hazaras, pashais, aimaks, baloch, or kabuli, kandhari, mazari, etc. this is why all ethnics call themselves afghans because it's no longer an ethnic as of 1747 when the nation state was created. then throughout time the greater state slowly shrunk to what is the nation's shape today.Mirrori1 01:30, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

re: Articles

Sure. Simply click on the history tab, then find the version that you would like to undo to and then click on undo. And that is all. --Behnam 03:06, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

come on msn --Anoshirawan 03:07, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

ATTENTION VANDAL

Stop with the childish behavior. You can't say that "Afghanistani" is a legitimate term for all Afghans when it's only self-hating people like yourself using it. Don't you realize how far off you are from the mainstream discourse on this subject. Like I've said time and time again, provide actual sources that STATE that "Afghanistani" is being used by the MAJORITY of the people and in an OFFICIAL capacity. So far you have shown me nothing. I've said this before as well, GOOGLE the term "AFGHANISTANI" and you will find the sources you've provided me, one after the other. That is not proper research my friend. A word match on the term "Afghanistani" means nothing. A user entered definition for "Afghanistani" on TheFreeDictionary means nothing. Keep removing my CORRECTIONS, and I will keep correcting your ERRORS. This article is supposed to be free of personal and political POINTS OF VIEW. What you are doing is in violation of the norms established by the Wiki community. If you do not comply, I will be forced to report you for repeated vandalism. The evidence is in my favor.

Its you who is removing info from that Article. If Afghanistani did not exist then why is it in dictionaries. Today in Afghanistan we are having the same issue(majority do not want to be named Afghan). Its you racist, ethno-centric people on wikipedia who is forcing an ethnicity on everyone. Their is no reason for you or your other friends to vandalize these articles.

--Anoshirawan 22:04, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

This is getting old. This is the last thing I will say to you... each time you put your garbage back up, I will remove it. I promise you this much.

By the way, I am Tajik. And I am a proud Afghan. I will never allow people like you to speak for me. You are a disgrace to our people. I'm sure your family must be ashamed of you, that is if they knew what you were up to. Ethnic nationalists like you are destroying everything.

What are you trying to prove anyhow? Is your life that empty that you have to push this garbage online? I'm close to giving up, simply because you are not worth any more of my time. I actually work. I have a life. I don't push propaganda online to make my life feel less empty. Hopefully, Khuda khaasta basha, you will come to your senses. If not, then don't call yourself Afghan or Afghanistani. Call yourself a watanforosh. You aren't worthy of either word. I pity you.

Oh and what are you going to do now? Since it was the last time you were going to tell me not to remove your false information. Should I fear for my life because of your empty threat little man? Are you going to report me? Go right ahead. Your buddy did the same thing, and nothing happened. Even a person unfamiliar with Afghanistan can recognize that you're an idiot.

Greater Iran Template

Salam. I removed the Greater Iran Template from Afghanistan article. Several reasons: The template is designed for the history related articles, while the Afghanistan page is a general article about Afghanistan, only one of its sections is about the History. Secondly, the template should be added to those articles which are mentioned in the Template i.e. Ghaznavids, Timurids, and all other dynasties. So the template is strictly reserved to articles corresponding to the history of dynasties, rulers and governments in Greater Iran. It is far away to add it in the Afghanistan article. Thanks for not adding it again. Khuda Hafez -Ariana 12:14, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

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Edit Warring

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I am not Nisarkand

Believe it or not, most people would disagree with what you have done to every Afghanistan related article. What you and Beh-nam are doing here will not change anything in the real world. I can sleep comfortably at night knowing that. Do you think you can impose your will on the majority of Afghans who see things differently from you? Given that you don't consider yourself an Afghan and you'd rather see Afghanistan partitioned...why do you insist on monopolizing these articles? If you were keeping them neutral and accurate, that's one thing. But it's obvious to me that you are not. I've tried reasoning with you, yet you resist. Once and for all, state your true motives in reverting all changes that would in fact improve the articles. State why you are removing references to Afghanistan anywhere and everywhere you can. State why you have removed anything even remotely flattering to Pashtuns, no matter how true. Answer my questions for the record.


Please stop vandalizing these articles, last time you started this we didnt report you but this time we will.

--Anoshirawan 03:30, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Report me. Prove that I am vandalizing these articles. Read the questions I've posed to you and respond if you have a shred of decency. A failure to respond will only confirm what I already know. Once again, report me.

We provide sources with everything we write on this website. for example We provided numerous scholarly sources which mentions Afghanistan as a creation of the british. --Anoshirawan 03:34, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

You haven't answered the questions. Again, why do you bother with Afghanistan related articles? Please answer the question honestly. I could care less about your sources I have repeatedly provided sources which you have rejected. You yourself have cited the CIA World Factbook, yet I have done EXACTLY the same thing.

What you are doing is not even remotely scholarly. Cherry picking sources to back up your claims is not a scholarly practice.


Like I said Afghans arent the only inhabitants of Afghanistan and I am only here to rewrite Articles which have been fabricated by ethno-centric Pashtuns like you

There is another empty accusation from you Anoshirawan. You avoid the questions as usual and accuse others of ethnocentrism. You are too blind to see that it is you who is behaving in that way. By the way, I had a chat with Safeer sahib Agha-e Jawad a few weekends ago. Would you like to know what I asked him? I asked if he'd heard the term "Afghanistani" used by officials or any Afghan nationals. He stared back at me with a confused expression on his face. So tell me, how is it that the majority of Afghans (of all ethnicities) use the term "Afghanistani" as you claim...yet the Ambassador has never heard the term? Trust me, I can see right through you. Your accusations mean nothing to me. Your behavior is typical of this tiny, pathetic separatist movement that is taking shape among the self-hating few in our society.

One more time, answer the questions if you can. They are very simple, very direct. Honesty is all I ask.

Yes, now your using karzai's dog for an answer. I would like you to go to Bamian and ask Hazaras if they are Afghan or to Shiberghan. Afghanistani is a just term for a nation like Afghanistan and Afghan has always meant Pashtun if it didnt, why are they renaming NWFP,a province in pakistan, Afghania.

I dont answer unlogical questions.

Anoshirawan, you are so out of touch that it's sad. Again, dismissing anything that challenges your lies. First of all, the word is "illogical". Here's another question...how are the questions "unlogical"? The questions had nothing to do with logic, and everything with what it is you are doing here. I find it amusing that you can't answer a single direct question without countering with ridiculous accusations and dismissals. And don't pretend to care about Hazaras or others who are not Tajik. You merely mention them as a tool for your hatred of Afghanistan. Don't sink so low.

Nisarkand please stop this, we have warned you before and now again.

Again, I am not Nisarkand. How many times do I have to say that? You've avoided the questions again by accusing me of being another person who I don't even know. Who are you to warn me of anything? I am having a debate here to find out what is going on in your heads, but you refuse to answer simple questions because you are just unable to.

Another thing Anoshirawan, it seems you have been getting repeated warnings about your misconduct on wikipedia. I have not. So please tell me who is abusing this resource. I expect an answer to this question as well as the others which I have raised.

Please Stop.

Anoshirawan, I will request that you immediately stop replacing the Afghanistan template with the "Greater Iran" one. This is the wrong template to use on articles referring to Afghanistan. Allow me to put forward this analogy - Afghanistan is a part of Asia, yet it would be improper to use a template for Asia in general on these articles rather than one about Afghanistan. For this reason, your explanation that "Afghanistan didnt exist until..." doesnt hold any weight - it does exist now as a country in Asia, it has its own set of templates, and those are the ones we use.

I would also ask you to stop moving the Afghan civil war articles to new namespaces, and replacing the word "Afghan" with "Afghanistani." Afghan is the proper term to use.

Further, stop making bad faith assumptions about every user who reverts you. You are making broad accusations that the vast array of people who are reverting you are sockpuppets - with no real reason other then all of us agreeing that these specific edits you are making are incorrect. Rather than alleging some conspiracy, perhaps you should stop trying to revert war and, if you truly beleive you are right, bring this to discussion. Misplaced Pages operates around consensus building, and the consensus is clearly against you. If you participate in discussion, perhaps you can show your side to be right - but you will not acheive this through edit warrning. ~Rangeley (talk) 13:52, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

I would like to affirm what Rangeley has said. If you persist in restoring old versions of articles, complete with grammatical errors, as you did for the Durrani Empire article, it will have to be considered as vandalism, and not proper editing. You have been warned. To reaffirm: Afghan (less often Afghani) is the proper English adjective for the people, not Afghanistani. If you wish to dispute that, please do so at Talk:Origins of the name Afghan. ย --Bejnar 16:50, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Blocked

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