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== Eleventyseven == == Eleventyseven ==

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Hindustan Movement

FYI, I've done a complete rewrite of the article at Hindustan Movement and deleted the copyvio version. I still have concerns about notability; it needs a citation to back up the Yahoo Internet Life award for it to meet WP:WEB. —C.Fred (talk) 01:07, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 01:09, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

thanks

didn't realised that had happened, i had followed the link from the user's sig on Talk:Abd-al-Aziz ibn Abd-Allah ibn Baaz . thanks again! ITAQALLAH 01:31, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

The Lonely Forest page

Please put back the page I just wrote on Lonely Forest, I noted in their talk page why they are "notable." Matt510 03:22, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 03:25, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
Thanks! -Matt510 03:28, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 03:48, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Tagging of Lilly Arbor Project

I recently removed a speedy delete tag that you had placed on Lilly Arbor Project. I do not think that Lilly Arbor Project fits any of the speedy deletion criteria because this was not in fact a copyvio. While it relied on a single source, i could not find any text actuly copied from that source. Rather all text was rewritten/paraphrased.DES 05:18, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 05:28, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
I wasn't aware of the previous incident. Do note that on Talk:Lilly Arbor Project User:Iupuicees asserts that he has permission from CEES IUPUI (the organization, not the user) to post content from their sites. This may be false, or may be so restricted that the content isn't truly free, but I think that perhaps we need to assume good faith a little more in this particular case. Do you agree? DES 05:34, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 05:45, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
I got a msg from LHVU on my user talk page. He asks that I review the edits of User:Cees iupui who you had already pointed out to me. He says that if I am satisfied that they are different users, or are the same by making the same mistake (by which i presume he means acting wrongly but in good faith) then he will be happy to unblock, or a should feel free to unblock myself. He did not say anything about the block msg without an actual block on User:Cees iupui. I will look into the matter further, and let both you and LHVU know my views. DES 14:10, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
See my response to LHVU . DES 14:48, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 16:11, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
See my msg here and here. DES 16:45, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 18:17, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Music videos

Here's my two cents (and it might be worth asking others, as I am not an expert in such matters) it's not original research to say something exists simply because it doesn't have an online cite. For instance, the plots and other details of movies, particularly obscure ones, often can't be online-cited -- but they do exist, and anyone with access to the DVD or whatever can discover them. I know that for many obscure albums, folks have transcribed data directly off the records themselves. That's not original research. Also I've worked on some articles in which the original sources were either books, or in a foreign language. Again, that's kosher. I think original research in the context of a music video would be things like personal interpretations of the video's meaning or guesses as to the reasoning the band might have chosen to make such a video, etc. Also, plenty of things are unsourced on Misplaced Pages. It only really matters when it is challenged. For instance the article Lampshade provides no sources asserting that lampshades exist, or that they are used as described. If challenged, someone would have to provide sources, but it's highly unlikely that it will be challenged, as these are not controversial assertions. As for your second question, I'm not sure I totally understand. Do you want to create an article about the single and link the video? Or link the video to the article about the album/artist? Dina 18:22, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 18:36, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure that a youtube version of a commercially produced music video is a copyright violation, so it just might not be doable. Dina 18:41, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 18:44, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
All you want to say is "this video exists" because you know you have it taped somewhere? I don't think that's a huge issue, unless someone comes back it "rubbish! prove this video exists!" which seems unlikely. Dina 18:46, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 18:49, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
I say go ahead, more information is always better than less. Dina 18:50, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 21:42, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
No worries, it wasn't an argument. I was distracted by other things. Also, it's extremely hot in the Northeast US right now. Gah. So my apologies if I was abrupt. Finally got the AC in, with only one minor injury. ;)Dina 22:44, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Your userpage

Do you want your page semi-protected so anons and users less that 4 days old can't edit it? 111 malicious edits merits? Do you want me to protected for a week or two? --Maxim 00:59, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 05:50, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Smiles

Thanks needed that Dan arndt 06:08, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

pokemon images

not neccessarily. a good way to write it would be, "The Pokemon, X, by Ken Sugimori..." -ΖαππερΝαππερ Alexandria 16:38, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

oh, i thought you you meant on the description pages for the images.... oops. As for the articles... no... i personally feel that captioning them is a little redundant, especially since we have all the author info on the main page. just to let you know, i'm taking a break... updating the image pages with fair-use rationales and more descriptive summaries would be a great help as they don't lend themselves easily to automation. -ΖαππερΝαππερ Alexandria 17:55, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 18:15, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Smiling

How on earth did you know at this minute I am pretty pissed off? I'm felling all agitated and annoyed. How did you know? Wow that is really amazing. Your're psychic. Thanks a lot for the smile its made a difference!! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ 19:36, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Molly McKay

Davina Kotulski has been restored. You can send them both to AfD.-Wafulz 19:43, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 19:52, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Reply (2)

Look like he just might not understand what material is encyclopedic and what isn't. Have you tried talking to him? This is, not using templates. -- John Reaves 22:48, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 22:51, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the laugh. . .

Pwn'd indeed. Imagine how I felt when I realized you got the edit. Consider it a mutual pwning. ....still laughing. Douglasmtaylor /C 23:30, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 23:38, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Deaf pedestrians

There are actually only 485 *unique* Ghits for "Deaf pedestrians" (go to results page 50), not all of which are about the band (some are actually on actual deaf pedestrians). I couldn't find anything other than the band's own site, last.fm, and the like. NawlinWiki 23:48, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 23:50, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

wrong guy

Yep, sorry.. Made a mistake and accidentally reverted back to vandalism. Sorry again..! Ukulele 16:30, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 16:34, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Artists Row

I don;t see how it fits in A7, so I sent it to prod instead. Anyway, it just might be notable if refs can be found, but certainly can be merged into Downtown Atlanta or Atlanta. DGG (talk) 19:43, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 19:46, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
Atlanta articles: there seems to be a background, see the author's talk page, and Walfuz's message to him. Some admins, not including myself, see this as making a difference & would be more likely to speedy--I go just by the article as it stands, not the motive I see you've been speedying the other Atlanta articles as A1, which dont think is really right either, but I'll leave to another admin. Personally, I would prod them all instead as no references to support notability.--but if any of them are actually on the Landmarks list, they'll be automatically notable. DGG (talk) 19:54, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 19:56, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
yes, that's the way to go--there is also an article Downtown Atlanta (as there is for other large cities) for merging them into if relevant. I know I might simply do the merges myself, but I usually dont. If the guy is being paid for it, let him do the work. DGG (talk) 19:59, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 20:05, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
I feel really stupid. thanks for telling me, I have some stuff to go back to and fix. DGG (talk) 20:10, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 20:15, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Holocausto band

Hi,I believe you marked my article on Holocausto for speedy deletion. I have justified the article on its talk page, I think it deserves to be on wikipedia since it was an important part of the 1980s South American thrash metal/Colombian metal scene. The city of Medellin was renouned for several thrash bands, including Holocausto, which all played together. One of the bands, Athanator, is still playing and has achieved worldwide recognition. The guitarist in Athanator was, for a time, a member of Holocausto. Holocausto were not just some old 'garage band' - they played large shows in the city of Medellin and released several albums. Plexsia 20:04, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 20:07, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your help!! I've tried using the citation tag to list a couple sources but it still says there aren't any. Hopefully it'll work eventually :) Plexsia 20:52, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the user page revert. That was one of the more interesting insults I've received. -- Gogo Dodo 05:30, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 21:58, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks again. I probably should have blocked that account as soon as I saw it. It's probably somebody's sockpuppet. Oh, well. -- Gogo Dodo 20:24, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
Replied here:. -WarthogDemon 21:38, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
Re your message: That must have been one heck of a question you tried to asked. =) -- Gogo Dodo 07:13, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 07:37, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Re your message: I see you got yourself into a bit of mess. It's good that you decided to walk away from the computer for a bit. As for me, well, I "blocked" a bunch of people. =) -- Gogo Dodo 18:57, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Another day, yet another revert. Thanks. =) -- Gogo Dodo 04:53, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 19:03, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
Re your message: At least my mistake helped somebody. =) Actually, I made another mistake with that particular edit in that I called it a "null edit" when it's really a "dummy edit". Oh, well. -- Gogo Dodo 05:44, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Eleventyseven

If I may ask, why does this continue? I try creating good pages like Eleventyseven, which is a well known band, and I even put up as much information on it as many other articles have, but for some reason, it is declared innappropriate. This just gets more and more confusing, but whatever. I guess you guys know what you you are doing. Whenever Eleventyseven becomes notable enough, can I ask you if it is ready for an article? I just am wondering. God bless. RoryS89 23:25, 1 August 2007 (UTC)RoryS89

Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 23:33, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Torch (band)

I suggest that you nominate Torch (band) and their album at WP:AFD, contested speedies of bands with albums tend to end up at AFD where they tend to get deleted, but we have to go through the process. Carlossuarez46 01:14, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 01:23, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Sorry

Figured I'd do a favor, didnt mean to step on toes. DurinsBane87 07:05, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 15:11, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for looking out for things. I see you picked up on my counting quirk. I explained it in a little more detail to DurinsBane87. -- Gogo Dodo 16:06, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 06:32, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
Re your message: It was a bit overprotective of you, but I do appreciate you looking after my user page. -- Gogo Dodo 16:44, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Ryan Carino

You shouldn't have deleted Ryan Carino. The guy was real great story from being a racer at 8 and now is the most popular guy out there. I suggest u can create Ryan Carino with the same stuff i typed up just make it acceptible enough for it to stay —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Carinorockss (talkcontribs).

Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 23:52, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Xhet

I figured it out :) I just wanted a polite way to point him to WP:V policy. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kl4m (talkcontribs).

transwiki

You left a comment on my talk page... Just because it doesn't come up in Google doesn't mean it doesn't exist. As for the date - I interpreted that as the article creation date by a newbie rather than the creation date of the word. At any rate, the word doesn't get into Wiktionary without manual curation by an editor; what happens is that it goes into a transwiki log and awaits a person picking it up and completing the transwiki process. So transwikification is not an automatic contamination of Wiktionary. Regards, --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 01:46, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Haaret'z

is the leading Israeli newspaper, and David Landau is in fact the editor. A disgracefully inadequate stub, but still a start. DGG (talk) 04:31, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 04:37, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Smile?

Elenseel has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Elenseel 06:23, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Seems to me like you should fore go that adoption, since you are able to edit and rv vandalism properly. Thanks for that though, it was getting awfully dreary rvv. Elenseel 06:23, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Re: Worldatlas1989

Well it looks like he has stopped now (well, for the moment at least). If you see the fair use policy being broken again, or if you come across any other disruptive edits, feel free to leave a message. Cheers. Spellcast 16:51, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 20:32, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Worldatlas1989

Thanks for the heads up, I'll keep an eye out. ELIMINATORJR 21:13, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 22:12, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
Re: Spamfilter: Not that I know of, but you can get round it by putting "see edit summary" instead of the URL in the CSD tag, and then putting the URL in the summary so the deleting admin can see it. Might be worth raising at WP:VPT. ELIMINATORJR 22:15, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Smile

Thanks for the smile, not sure why I got one but thanks. --Victor12 22:26, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 06:10, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Re:G4

Well, nothing seems to have happened so I've tagged it as no content (a3). It was deleted as copyvio, and recreated with the hangon tag. What that seemed to suggest was that perhaps a non-copyvio version was being written; sometimes speedy articles (especially copyvios) are deleted and then recreated with different content, which is why G4 doesn't apply to speedies. The reason I replaced hangon with under construction is because I always interpret creating a page with a hangon tag to mean "i'm working on this, don't delete it yet", even though the result is almost always speediable, it's assuming good faith I guess. - Zeibura 23:36, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Speedies

I meant to put a prod on them, and Ive just done that. It's usually worth trying--there's a 50% chance that the people realize and don't contest it. Just watchlist and if they do remove the tag, AfD. Frankly, I look at too many to keep track of everything myself & I rely on others--this is wrong of me, but.... (And I was going to mention, yes, you seem to have gotten a little impatient the last week. ) If you want an interesting variation on patrolling, try following one of the subject-oriented new page logs at User:AlexNewArtBot--it will show the ones that get missed in the first round. Lots of missed copyvios in most of them. But even for copyvio, if it's something really important, I stubify & write a note to the author; if it isnt important, it's a clear-cut way to remove it. If they care, they'll rewrite. DGG (talk) 04:04, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Revert warring (over Ho-Oh)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Ho-Oh. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content which gains a consensus among editors. Kappa 05:35, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 05:39, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
I protected the page, it's better to protect than to block both of you for silly revert warning. Discuss in talk. Thanks Jaranda 06:02, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 06:05, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Was it you who merged that page? I can't tell from the edit history. If if was, why did you leave out the fact that it is named after a mythological bird? Kappa 23:05, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 23:56, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Since you refuse to try to justify your actions, I will sum up my evaluatation. You were going around shoddily bulk merging articles, leaving out important information because you didn't even bother to read the articles properly. Thus you missed the vital point that Ho-Oh is also a name for Fenghuang and thus some kind of disambiguation is required. When an editor reverts the merge and tries to tell you this, instead of attempting to understand the issue you just revert him back and tell him to talk to someone else. You know about the 3rr so ironically you feel no need to discuss or understand the problem yourself, you merely revert three times and then call in a friend who has even less idea what is going on than you do but is happy to use their 3 reverts on your behalf. Kappa 05:42, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 05:50, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Attacks on the Final Boss of the Internet (Retrieved From Userpage)

Warthog Demon, while trying to attain manpoints, decided to attack the true final boss of the internet and win at the internets. Well he failed hard and was promptly told to GTFO the internets. Maybe if you use level select you can get back to the final boss and try to beat him again. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.36.223.4 (talkcontribs).

Smile (2)

Why did u send me a smile? Ryan4314 03:15, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 03:20, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
No it's ok, I just get paranoid, I assumed you were someone I had pissed off, perhaps you should mention that you pick a random user in future. I do appreciate the gesture though, thanks Ryan4314 10:46, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
NP =D Ryan4314 16:20, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
Hi again, How do u get involved in voting for for requests for admins plz? Ryan4314 01:36, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 01:48, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

What a question!

Holy cow! Has this ever actually happened?--Chaser - T 04:50, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 05:09, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
Hey. Thanks for your reply. I didn't think there was a case of that happening, but I wasn't sure. I think it's a great question; the most original one I've seen in a while.--Chaser - T 05:29, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

RockMFR RfA

Hi WarthogDemon, just wanted to check wehther you'd also looked at RockMFR's answers to questions 2 and 3 on his previous RfA. They are a bit more detailed - I guess he felt he didn't have much to add this time. Anyway, just thought I'd draw your attention to those in case they contain info you're looking for... WjBscribe 16:41, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

situations

I can understand placing an afd on the recent article you asked me about, but i absolutely cannot understand placing a speedy on it for A7. Considering also the qy. above, you seem to be looking for difficult situations to get involved in. DGG (talk) 22:31, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 22:36, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
And subsequently replied here: after realizing I had horribly misworded my message. -WarthogDemon 22:39, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

KRA

Yea, that looks fine to me. --Anthony.bradbury 19:45, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

El Dorado

Looks like a reasonable link to me - far more so than the five radio stations above it. I dunno - I rarely review the external links and almost never use them - but that external entry seemed to have a lot more media than our entry, so it might be worth keeping. WilyD 20:28, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 20:33, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Not a problem

Certainly understand trying to prevent linkspamming. Just wanted to provide a good link there. Encycloar 20:43, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Re: Your RfA

Please see my reply on my talk page. Thanks, :-) Stwalkerster talk 21:10, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 21:24, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Hehehe

I learned my lesson, not getting in the middle of this one. I'll leave it in your capable hands! 06:29, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 17:14, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Peter T. Flawn vs Peter Tyrell Flawn

I think it depends as to how common it was for him to be called with his middle name, but Peter T. Flawn is more "Wikipediaish". Brianreading 21:08, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 21:36, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Pichu

Seems to be more of the random popups that happen now and again, I left a fairly clear edit summary explaining why. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 03:35, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks (2)

Thanks very much for reverting the vandalism to my user page. I appreciate it. --NeilN 04:23, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Replied here: . -WarthogDemon 04:25, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

User page prods

How do I do it so (relatively) quickly? Tabbed browsing (where I set up candidate pages) and a Word file of twenty or so pieces of tag text (easily altered, usually, to fit every occasion). Of course, it takes a fair amount of time to work out WHERE to find the candidate pages in the first place: what you're seeing is merely the repetitive end process. --Calton | Talk 04:26, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Howdy, Warthog Demon!

Just got your smile and many thanks for it! I was just coming to the end of a productive Wiki-Evening, and that was a nice warm fuzzy to top it off. I was trying to teach myself how to make an infobox. It was getting to the point where I was maybe just a little too drowsy to be reading instruction manuals (and I suspect that I am an undiagnosed ADD, even something akin to dyslexia, because for as much as I enjoy reading I have trouble sometimes just tracking the lines...but you didn't need to know that....). Anyhow...like it so often happens, just as I was getting really frustrated I NOTICED SOMETHING. And now it works. Yea! I hope you're having a good Wiki-Night yourself, and thanks again! PurpleChez 04:35, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

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