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Hey you, thanks for removing the incessant rantings! ] 11:42, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
Hey you, thanks for removing the incessant rantings! ] 11:42, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
:Anytime. I see Dweller has blocked that account, so hopefully you can get something productive done now. :-) ]<sup>]</sup> 11:50, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
:Anytime. I see Dweller has blocked that account, so hopefully you can get something productive done now. :-) ]<sup>]</sup> 11:50, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
== I don't think you got it ==
my post on thatso page was a joke: "sarcasm" ie saying the opposite of what i mean see steven colbert as an example I was '''not''' insulting jewish people I was pointing out attitudes against them in a humorous way which ''we'' get I was defending jesus/jewish people my post was against editors silencing other peoples point of view. read between the lines!] 06:07, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
I would have been happier if you were not a christian with strong beliefs, as I was going through your record I was hoping not to find that bias cause then I could feel better about WP and know that your sudden focus on me was fair and legitimate, its more painful to know you are corrupting WP than to be called a troll(which i try not to be) and have my account closed not that you could ever do such a thing... I honestly feel bad I really had a lot of respect for admin folk but you have shown me that admin status is really no substitute for ...] 06:29, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
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As so many have asked about my health, in email and on this page, and been so kind as to offer kind thoughts and prayers for my health, I feel obligated to post an update. For those for whom this is Too Much Personal Information, please just ignore this.
The good news is that none of the truly nasty things which my physician tested for came back positive.
More good news is that I will be back to "normal".
The bad news is that she doesn't expect me up to full par for at least a year, as of my last visit, May 10, 2007, although she assures me if I am a good puppy and follow her directions, I will improve steadily (I'm being a good puppy).
More possible bad news is that she hasn't ruled out all of the nasties, she just wants to see how I'm doing after 6 months before deciding whether to send me for more tests (current condition could be masking other symptoms).
The truly excellent news is that so many people have been so kind and understanding. My thanks to you all.
BillRodgers = HarveyCarter = a host of sockpuppets
I saw on another DrKiernan talk page you talking with Monkeyzpop about a persistant sock puppet. He has hit various dead celebrity articles particular hits on Jimmy Stewart, Elvis, John Wayne, Steve McQueen and a host of others. I set up 3 reports on him for a slew of sock puppet accounts - ] ]
] The thing that works against him is himself. He uses a pattern in his names and his edits are word for word identical many times from account to account. He's even picked up conversations as one account got blocked as if nothing is wrong with avoiding his sockpuppet block by setting up another. (and another and another and so on). To make a long story short. Is there one place we can get all these names together and make it easier for editors to see how many fake accounts he had. I recall a link I tried working on like that months ago but can't seem to find it. All these new incarnations should be added. I have been on a short wiki break due to work and I am slowly coming back up to speed. Also user BillRodgers is what I see as his newest. Same edits in Elvis and Jimmy Stewart as other accounts. Hope you are feeling better soon (saw the tag on top of userpage). Take care and thanks for your time. --Xiahou23:18, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
Thanks using the link and changing the name to HarveyCarter I found it at ]. Looks like people have added to it. The thing is when I go to the sock puppet page to search cases only my 3 come up so how did the others get added? ]. Thanks again. I appreciate it. --Xiahou00:09, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
Thank you.(about template to add name to list)See what happens to me when I take a few weeks off wiki. I used to have all kinds of time. Now I am at the desk, away, back, away, throughout the night. Hopefully back to normal soon. But I was also wondering is how other names got listed on there without opening for example HarveyCarter case #4 and so on. Was it just admins blcoking and adding the template without opening a case? Sorry if I ask to many questions. Anyway, Thanks for everything. I'll have to keep an eye out for his new one and others and start copy and pasting a report on notepad or something unless someone beats me to it. --Xiahou00:43, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
Probably. I've added several to sockmasters I know well, such as Jason Gastrich and Jon Awbrey. Sometimes the edits are clear enough without troubling with CU. In those cases, I add to suspected sock, not checkuser sock, but sometimes after that someone with checkuser checks, confirms, and changes the tag to SockpuppetCheckuser. In those cases, although a checkuser checked, there is no RFCU to point to. KillerChihuahua10:51, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
Just to let you know I filed a 4th case against him for the new account plus one I missed back when I turned in the others. ]. Thanks and have a great day. --Xiahou01:28, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
Blogs etc as references
I am wondering about when blogs become useful as references. Some blogs are written by known figures who are notable already from their other writing, or from their qualifications or expertise. Some are associated with people who give their real names and professional positions and credentials. Some science blogs have been highly rated. For example, Nature magazine placed a "review of some of the best blogs written by working scientists" on its website in July 2006..
Panda's Thumb (weblog), with many professional scientist posters, also highly rated (second place winner?). Almost every poster I have seen on there already has a WP article, and is noted for other writing already. Usually with good sources.
talkorigins not a blog exactly, but with many articles written by well-known professional scientists and well-sourced
The short answer to your question is always, under certain circumstances. A blog which is very well known, by a notable author, can always be used for quotes and frequently can be used for postion or belief statements. In other circumstances blogs are less reliable and are, where the author is unknown and the blog is not notable, completely unacceptable. So its not that blogs are RS; it is that some blogs are RS for some purposes. I hope that helped. KillerChihuahua04:03, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
Deletion: Tenielle Cooper Article
Uh, yeah - I wrote that article based upon information I had, and I cited 5 sources, including the California Bar page referencing Cooper, two website addresses with her published articles, and two internet addresses that have articles written about her multi-million dollar law suits. This young lady is well-known in SoCal legal/art circles, and her admission to Misplaced Pages is just as relevant as any other person's because she is quasi-famous, published, and in the media. I worked really hard on that damn article, too, so that it had cited sources and wouldn't be deleted. And I planned to continuously update with more. Maybe you failed to see the 5 cited sources at the bottom of the article, but I didn't know how to insert the footnotes in the text, only at the bottom. Please advise me as to how to get my article back up, since you DELETED IT claiming there were no legitimate sources, when, in fact, there were 5 - which is many more than most articles have. Did you even read it????? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Revolution999 (talk • contribs) 16:53, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Hi there... I noticed that you deleted my wikipedia page on the grounds that I'm "just another engineering manager at Google". While that fact it true, I believe that you've missed some of the other things that I've done (in general: lots of Open Source contributions, which is why I was specifically invited to speak here at Wikimania in Taipei). The sad part is that I could not put that information onto my own page due to wikipedia's self-editing policy (proper!). So I think that you've missed a number of things that do qualify myself as a notable person. What is the best way / your favored approach for discussion of reversing the deletion?
No, that wasn't the grounds, and I don't know where you got that phrase, but I don't recall making that comment nor can I find it in the logs. It had been tagged for deletion with the summary "placing for deletion due to failure of WP:BLP completely lacking non-trivial sources". The only source was a personal homepage, which btw I notice hasn't been updated since Feb 13, 2005 - although updating wouldn't make it any less trivial as a source. Deletion discussion is Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Greg SteinKillerChihuahua11:48, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
Sorry... that comment was actually from Burntsauce. Regardless, you're right, so ignore my homepage. If lack of sources was the grounds (doesn't seem to be per the discussion), then I can drag up a bunch of sources for a dozen years of open source development work, talks, keynotes, and whatnot. I could not add that to my wikipedia page by myself, but that data is actually out there. Regarding the discussion page, it has a note that it is now archived and comments should not be added. One of the wikipedia doc pages about deletion said to talk to the admin who removed the page, so I came here. Gstein17:44, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Which is quite correct, and now we've cleared up the little misunderstanding about why the article was deleted and who made the comment to which you objected. That behind us, the article is deleted and the deletion discussion is closed, as you note. My advice is to let it go - as the subject of the article, you have a clear conflict of interest. You may wish to watchlist the article title, so you will be alerted if someone writes a different article about you. Note the statement in WP:AUTO: If your life and achievements are verifiable and genuinely notable, someone else will probably create an article about you sooner or later.. In that case, you can certainly offer the sources on the article talk page, as appropriate. Meanwhile, continue contributing to Misplaced Pages in whatever other ways you feel you can assist with the project. KillerChihuahua00:29, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
Fair enough... I was tempted to let it go, too, but one of the devs at Wikimania told me to go ahead and post ("be bold"). Maybe it will be recreated at some point. Thanks for your time. Gstein02:51, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
Just wanted to apologise for stopping contributing on the Kriss Donald mediation - basically I was finding the whole thing too stressful and increasingly futile and came to the view an agreement was unlikely - I didn't expect a result from mediation after the last few exchanges and couldn't stomach going to arbitrartion - and my university term was starting again, so my usage basically dropped off. And yeh, I've basically stopped contributing for now - more because it's too much hard work than anything else - though I stand by what I've said on this case.
Not at all, thanks for the efforts you did make - mediation can be long and tedious. If it was taking too much attention away from your schooling, you certainly made the correct decision in prioritizing. I hope to see you back contributing when you have a little more free time, and hopefully you won't land on such a contentious issue next time! KillerChihuahua00:44, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
Oh Noes! An AD now competing with ID? Hopefully we won't have a war like BCE and BC. :-D Seriously,t hank you, that's too funny.
The outing was a mixed experience, but parts were excellent. If you ever go to the Georgia Aquarium in Atlanta, I suggest allocating most of your time for the Big Tank, the one with the whale sharks. 6.3 million gallons of water and thousands of lifeforms, including rays, sharks, and lotsa fish. Did I mention the huge viewing wall and the part where they're swimming over your head? Awesome. How have things been here? KillerChihuahua00:37, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
Heavy weather!
Hey, that was actually a serious attempt at a freely licensed illustration for the ID article! Well, fairly serious. The outing spot looks excellent, far grander than the Scottish Sea Life Sanctuary we visited near Oban about a decade ago. Not too likely to visit in the near future, am a bit stuck in the British Isles – the article, at least. It's taking ages to get my thoughts together on condensing the development of the name, in discussion with others, so haven't been paying so much attention elsewhere. Except when goofing off, which is much of the time. Anyway, keep well, be in touch.. dave souza, talk16:18, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
Adoption
Hey, KC, and welcome back! Quick question: since I have a good deal of edits, and know Misplaced Pages policy pretty much inside and out, do you think I could adopt a user? I value your opinion, and wouldn't want to go into this without it. Don't be afraid to say no...I've got plenty of time to mature. Cheers, Arky02:23, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Congrats,KC!;-) I didn't know that admin meant adminastrator. I thought it was and ad making company trying to win you over. My Bad. I hope there's no offense, KC or other admins. Sorry. So your the Man now! Well, one of the Men and Ladies. Here a nice bone for a new admin. --Angel DavidPresents 21:14, 11 August2007 (UTC)
Recently, the article 'Otherkin' has come to my attention. The article use to be fairly long, but is now, literally, a stub. However, I'm curious to why this was done; while I can understand such things as WP:RS and WP:V, I'm wondering what Misplaced Pages's policy or guidelines are for when an article is 'cleaned up' to the point of being an introduction and a list of books/articles.
Many of the older edits have a lot more information on the topic, such as this edit . I'm wondering if you could give me some advise on what to do; to me, it seems perhaps they article is a good example of somewhere that WP:IAR would apply, and perhaps reverting to a very old version of the article may improve the over all quality (and try to clean up from there) of the article, but I fear that such an action would lead to an edit war and an endless discussion.
It seems from the article talk page that the content which was removed was unsourced or poorly sourced. If that is the case, then it needs to stay removed. If not, then you have a content dispute, and I suggest you attempt the usual steps in dispute resolution. KillerChihuahua04:00, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
Reverting problem on talk page
Hello, this guy is reverting talk page, i simply do not want him to associate me with some suspended user, i told him of civility and warned him many times, he needs to keep the talk page clear and clean, can you assist me in suspending the member and cleaning the talk page.
I thought he was administrator, he is trying to be. We had some problems on sports articles and he took sides, argued over one tenth of a pound, i will give you link when you reply. I hope i found good administrator, as they are hard to find. I am not posting this to incident pages as i dont want other involved, looking forward to resolving this problem with you. I always try to follow the rules, this individual lacks civility. It seems this guy was pretending he was administrator. And he has buddy helping him, administrator giving out real names.
How long have u been administrator, is it stressful? I am administrator on one of the new
encyclopedias, but we must give real info about us, even average editors.
Whats difference between meditation and arbitration commit? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.99.2.84 (talk • contribs) 21:53, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:Severo&diff=150982447&oldid=150977191
He was told many times in a civilized manner to stop it, to stop comparing me to users i am not, if you see the link, he keeps on adding what some other user added, i removed that, i toldhim it's ucivil, you are breaking wiki civility rules ( i always try to follow, including all other rules, especially accuracy ) en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Civility He is creating problems and edit wars. Today, I had to redo it, erase it, then put back the new talk, so it does not look i deleted other people's work, then deleted insulting material.
He keeps on deleting my reply, only leaves his, then I look like a idiot without a reply and he seems to be correct. All of this started because of 1/10 of a pound. 90.71 or 91 kg, over a heavyweight division, mkil started it, left a note, he always does compare me to some other suspended user i am not. He was told not to. Its a problem, public library has many users and you can easily be linked toa vandal you know. So, i have a simple request:
1. Severo to be suspended 2. My edit and reply to remain, without connections to other users as the above link tells you. It is against policy to delete talk, i already allowed him to delete over half of my replies. We argued over boxing, he pretended he was administrator (i do not see hs is on his page) He is trying to become administrator, so he is bossy. Because of him heavyweight boxing page was changed and good things reverted, i asked to email me, i have tons of evidence on what is heavyweight what is not, he refused to listen. If you can give me your email, i can give you tons of evidence. Its best you email him in private. I told him nicely (before he told me to hit the road) do not create problems by linking me with others. Its like giving out private info. His job was to help, he did not do, it's possible he worked together with others to discredit me.
My contributions are always accurate, precise. I corrected many wrong things on wiki over time and that speaks for itself...
Sign your posts or in the future I will delete them.
Severo is an experienced editor who does not claim to be an admin. Either provide a diff where Severo actually made that claim, or stop making the accusation that s/he did.
I don't want evidence about your content dispute. If you give it to me, I will delete it. I'm not here to play referee.
You provided one diff, which is an edit you made. What is that supposed to be evidence of? I see no evidence of any wrongdoing by Severo on his/her talk page at all. I do, however, see you harassing Severo and making accusations without evidence. KillerChihuahua17:01, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
Potter edits
In this edit summary, you might have found that being polite would have helped you out a bit more. You misinterpreted the need for a cn tag. Someone was seeking the actual existence of the bands mentioned, as well as the Wizard Rock movement, whioch seems crufty as hell. I don't need to tell you that while admins make mistakes, it is their politeness and helpfulness that tends to separate them from the heard. Maybe you didn't get the memo? :) - Arcayne()03:16, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
Being clear and offering an example does not necessarily mean being rude. Being succinct does not necessarily translate into lack of politeness. Perhaps you misunderstand the distinction?
I fail to see where I misunderstood anything. "Someone" seeking the actual existance of the bands mentioned might have noticed they are wikilinks to the actual band articles. When "someone" is looking for sources that cats exists, the place to look is the Cat article, not the Egypt article. If sources for "cats" are lacking, tag that article, not the Egypt article; or in some cases, the article should be placed on Afd, and if deleted, the links to said article removed. I am delighted to have been helpful in this regard, and hope your understanding of where to place CN tags has improved. Oh and nota bene: sarcasm and/or patronizing lecturing rarely results in the target of said comments feeling gratitude or goodwill towards the comment maker. Perhaps you might consider adjusting your communication style accordingly. KillerChihuahua10:16, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
And now I see you've done a basic Revert on my edit, without waiting for me to reply here or even asking for my reasons on the article talk page. Indeed, before you even bothered to post here at all, you rolled back both my edits. Basic reverts with orders to follow instructions are generally reserved for vandals or clueless newbies. Which do you consider me, for clearly you have skipped the first step in DR (discussing with me) in favor of treating me like a vandal. I look forward to your reconciliation of simultaneously lecturing me on "politeness" while treating me like a common vandal. KillerChihuahua10:25, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
my post on thatso page was a joke: "sarcasm" ie saying the opposite of what i mean see steven colbert as an example I was not insulting jewish people I was pointing out attitudes against them in a humorous way which we get I was defending jesus/jewish people my post was against editors silencing other peoples point of view. read between the lines!Esmehwp06:07, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
I would have been happier if you were not a christian with strong beliefs, as I was going through your record I was hoping not to find that bias cause then I could feel better about WP and know that your sudden focus on me was fair and legitimate, its more painful to know you are corrupting WP than to be called a troll(which i try not to be) and have my account closed not that you could ever do such a thing... I honestly feel bad I really had a lot of respect for admin folk but you have shown me that admin status is really no substitute for ...Esmehwp06:29, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
