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==Deobandi==
Hey, got your message. The reason I mentioned the issue of sockpuppetry is because the user put the same edit on my talk page twice through different IPs, which got under my skin. As for me removing the links, I knew they were recent Times articles; unfortunately, that article specifically has been a frequent target of POV and i'm sort of on high alert when it comes to that. In addition, I felt that they would be more appropriate in some sort of "recent events" section as opposed to external links but considering the article's aformentioned history of POV I wasn't having it.<br />
Regardless, if you feel that my reverting was out of line then I will defer; perhaps viewing from the outside looking in gives you a clarity I don't have. I'll leave it off for now, and please don't feel shy if you notice anything else you take issue with. I rarely experience people disagreeing with my edits in a civil manner which is sad, so any future feedback is more than welcome. ] 04:44, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

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Hi Anthon

I'll see if I can get around to it. Margery, Home and Palladino are more interesting to me. It seems like too long ago I read an old book that gave a very detailed explanation of the Davenports' rope tie. They were really something in their time. Don't be in a hurry, and remember stories dealing with the unknown love to grow, and they do. User:Kazuba 1 Mar 2006

Hi Anthon- David Devant and Davenport brothers

Just fooling around found something that may interest you. Do a search for: my magic life david devant, that will take you to the book. In contents pick chapter 18, magic in the 19th century. Fascinating history User:Kazuba 1 Mar 2006

I'll take a look when I get time. I see that the German Misplaced Pages has an article on David Devant, but we lack one in the English. Why don't you write it? Or write one on My Magic Life. Anthon.Eff 19:59, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

No, no, no, no, no. No writing for now, and this is certainly beyond the secrets of the medium, my favorite stomping grounds. The rope tie used by the Davenport Brothers is fully explained in The Master Magicians by Walter Gibson, Doubleday & Company, Inc., New York 1966. If I have seen it used I certainly did not recognize it at the time. (Which is not surprising.)I am more familiar with some other ties, that some one else reading this doesn't need to know about. Even you. If you do magic you know exactly where I am coming from. I'm gone.User:Kazuba 1 Mar 2006

Maskelyne and the Davenport Bothers

Obtain a copy of Mediums and the Conjurors edited by James Webb, Ayer co Pub, 1976. It's all in there from the original prime materials. User:Kazuba 19 Mar 2006

My Introduction to Spiritism

Hi Anthon, Many years ago I was fortunate to get an introduction to Eric Dingwall from Milborne Christopher. Dingwall had lived through the grand period of spiritism and has contributed much to its history. To study the paranormal, he wrote me, it was imperative to have a knowledge of conjuring. This can take a life-time and still one is never totally prepared for something novel. Magic, or conjuring, at different levels is always in flux due to new observations, new talents, new methods, new twists. It evolves. The introduction to Mediums of the 19th Century, Vol 1, by Frank Podmore, University books, 1963, formerly Modern Spiitualism, 1902, is written by Ding. This introduction and Podmore's book will give you a small but incomplete contemporary explanation for the seduction of Doyle, Crookes and other men of science. You must try to put yourself in the place of these men in their TIME of the 19th century, who encountered the inexplicable. In many cases these individuals (Doyle) had lost a very close dear loved one (a son) and longed to again hear their reassuring voice from the otherside. I have witnessed this phenomena as it takes place in others myself. There is desperation and relief. Also see the infamous Project Alpha. Don't miss Boy's Life by Robert R. McCammon it is a real treat. You will love it. User:Kazuba 22 Mar 2006

Nice work!

...on Spiritualism. I'm glad that you agree that there is a need for a "Modern Spiritualism Movement" article that is distinct historical overview. The S. article is becoming too big and diverse to be useful for someone researching a movement and era rather than a philosophy or cosmology. It's all too much for me, 'tho -- I'll have to throw in the towel, there simply isn't enough time. -- user:Zosodada

Crookes' brother

Supposedly William Crookes' brother Philip died in 1867. That is probably the hook. User:Kazuba 31 Mar 2006

Eusapia Palladino

Take a look at The Career or Eusapia Palladino, Chapter 1 in Doyle's History of Spiritualism, Vol 2, Then read the entry for Eusapia Palladino in the Misplaced Pages. This is an extraordinary example of scientitists being absolutely hood-winked by an adept charlatan. Doyle ate it up.User:Kazuba 14 Apr2006

systematic vs specific name

For information only: "systematic name" is generally synonymous with "specific name", just a little more highbrow and less commonly used by other than taxonomists. I don't see any reason to change it back though. -- WormRunner 02:52, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

"Cultures in the standard cross cultural sample"

Hi,

What does "Cultures in the standard cross cultural sample" mean? What new value is added by the creation of this category? Thanks! --Ling.Nut 15:44, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

OK then, I'll try to turn my attention to the Atayal page. Meanwhile, I've added two Harvard refs and linked Harvcolnb citations to your page as an example. See the text; "... to contemporary industrial peoples (e.g., the Russians) (Silverman & Messinger 1997; Mace & Pagel 1994)." The last two authors are linked. If you don't like it, revert back to the most recent version. I can twiddle with the ref templates too, maybe, if I have time.--Ling.Nut 20:40, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
Our conversation is too spread apart; let's keep it on your page.... or by email, if you prefer. Yeah, I'm an Applied Linguistics guy, which means Linguistics & TESOL. I'm thinking of jumping the fence and writing my dissertation about aboriginal education, though. I haven't had a chance to read the Bellwood book you mentioned, but it looks like one I could enjoy.. after my dissertation is done, about 2 years from now.
I'd be happy to fix those citations/references for you, little by little over the next few days or week or so. If you wanna do something in return, go to Taiwanese Aborigines, read it, and leave some comments on the talk page, or add some references to unreferenced passages (e.g. Headhunting)if yoou really have free time. I would appreciate a second pair of eyes. Later! --Ling.Nut 02:22, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Late reply

Hey Anthon, no problem! As for the poem, you got it—it's Ladino, which is indeed very close to Spanish. Note the differences however between "ninya" and "niña", "kantando" and "cantado", etc. Cheers, Khoikhoi 00:10, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Regional Science

Hi Anthon. Regional science is not geographical science. It is very close to economic geography, but it's focus is on region or regional economics. See here http://www.rri.wvu.edu/loveridgeintroregsci.htm and look at the figure Elements of regional science. It draws his knowledge heavily from economics and geography and other sciences but is not considered as part of any of them. I agree that many regional scientists are among geographers but as much if not more of them are economists, planners and others.

In georaphy there's regional geography which is thought in some universities that could be regarded as geographical science though there are many critics stating its non-scientific nature based on descriptive approach - gathering of information about places. It is also considered as a paradigm (approach to study - regionalism) in geographical sciences. But that's another thing. I talk too much :). GeoW 08:05, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Talk: Spiritualism

Well, you guys wore me out, so I won't pursue it if you dig your heels in, but my request on the talk page still stands: if you wish to rate the article, then please leave behind your comments, so that your rating is helpful to those of us who actually do work on the article. Thanks. Anthon.Eff 14:43, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Class-criteria is available here. If you wish to get a peer review, (thats what it sounds like you want) feel free to request one at the Peer review request place. ---J.S 14:53, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
Thanks J.smith, you are correct, I thought you guys were trying to provide something akin to a peer review. I ran an automated peer review and got some good feedback. The WikiProject Religion folks also left some good comments. As I get time, I will try to make some of the suggested improvements and the article may eventually be ready for the full peer review. I appreciate your constructive approach. Anthon.Eff 18:23, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I saw the auto-peer-review. I'll help you setup the REF section if you want. ---J.S 18:27, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Anthon, I have been learning an interesting lesson about Misplaced Pages. In the EVP article, I have been banned, warned and all but strung-up for editing the article because I have a "conflict of interest." It seems that any person who might benefit in some way has one. They don't apply the same rule to people who advocate the Skeptical view, even though it is clearly an ideological advocacy. Nevertheless, I think I would just be a source of tension if I began working on the Spiritual pages. Please do contact me at the http://ethericreality.aaevp.com web site if you need backup. I will be happy to do what I can, but meanwhile, you seem to be doing a great job. Tom Butler 22:39, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Economic template

I saw your template on the history of economic thought, which I thought was very well done, and I thought you may be interested in helping me out with my template of economics as shown below. Remember 17:21, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Economics
Theoretical
Empirical
Applied

{{collist|colwidth=100px|

Schools
(history)
Economists
ListsSection 'Lists' not found

There is a project for economics. But it is labeled for business and economics, Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Business and Economics. I put up the template there but have not gotten any comments yet. Remember 04:15, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Yo, I have altered Template:History of economic thought so that it serves as a navigational aid rather than dead-end. However, it no longer links indirectly to the actual economists as some of your previous versions did. Consequently, I have begun creating individual templates for economists of the various schools based on this version of the template in case you are interested in contributing. To give an indication of what I intend, see Template:Mercantilism. Your co-operation would be much appreciated. Skomorokh 02:04, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Population numbers

Hi,

I have seen the numnbers given by Ethnologue before, but the problem is they are very outdated, as most of their sources are from 70s and 80s. Normally we should not include estimates from 30 years ago. Since there are no reliable figures, in my view it is better to use more recent estimates like those in the report by the Council of Europe(which I used for some of the diaspora numbers) or CIA World Fact Book. As for assimilation, please see here : The government's main strategy for assimilating the Kurds has been language suppression. Yet, despite official attempts over several decades to spread Turkish among them, most Kurds have retained their native language. I tried to add a 2006 report by European Council, which confirms the same 15-20% ratio for Kurds of Turkey.Heja Helweda 06:27, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Your question

Hypnosadist posted some... unhelpful text to a lot of user talk pages. I reverted it. Normal action. Guy (Help!) 18:21, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

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Placing of banners

If your statement on my talk page was a reference to my placing the Spirituality project banner on the articles in the parent Category:Spirituality, which is the stated scope of the project, then I think that your own statement may well be less than well informed. The purpose of my doing so, for what little it might be worth to you, is to find all the articles which have received some form of recognition (GA, FA, DYK, release selection), and inform the various relevant projects of those articles. Certainly, I am in no way asserting that those articles necessarily belong within the scope of a given project, simply that, by the way the article is currently categorized, they are within that project's scope. Factually, I know that several articles which haven't been touched for a long time are by modern standards miscategorized, and I hope to at least draw some attention to these articles, hopefully correcting these miscategorizations, by my actions. If there are objections to stating that a given article falls within the scope of a given project, then I clearly have no objections to having those articles' categorization changed and the banner removed. Also, for what little it's worth, it has become apparent to me that the majority of the "religion" based projects have tagged few if any of the relevant articles (I think Sikhism had all of 19 articles tagged). Also, please note that, as far as possible, when I have changed categories (generally by adding them), it is because there is specific relevant content in the article. For instance, categorizing something as Buddhist if there is a paragraph relating directly to Buddhism in the article. This is done because, unfortunately, very few if any people really are capable of knowing whether statements in a given article are necessarily accurate regarding multiple faiths which might be referenced in that article. The project specific to that faith would be more likely to know that. As stated, of course, if you believe that a given article does not fall within the scope of a given project, you are free to change it. If you do so, however, you might also want to change the categorization, because that is basically the way projects find out what articles are relevant to their projects. John Carter 14:00, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

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Lake Van photos

Wow, that was quick! Thanks for writing. I had just uploaded 4 or 5 photos and put the wrong date (1974) on each of them and was in the process of correcting the captions when you wrote. They actually were all taken taken in 1973. Put it down to "Old Timer's Disease"! I should change the date in the full titles of the photos - not just the captions - but I am not sure how to do it - so have just added a note to each. Anyway, I am glad you enjoyed the photos. I hope to add more when I can find the time - they have got slightly damaged and pretty faded and need a bit of editing before I upload them. All best wishes, John Hill 02:05, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

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Deobandi

Hey, got your message. The reason I mentioned the issue of sockpuppetry is because the user put the same edit on my talk page twice through different IPs, which got under my skin. As for me removing the links, I knew they were recent Times articles; unfortunately, that article specifically has been a frequent target of POV and i'm sort of on high alert when it comes to that. In addition, I felt that they would be more appropriate in some sort of "recent events" section as opposed to external links but considering the article's aformentioned history of POV I wasn't having it.
Regardless, if you feel that my reverting was out of line then I will defer; perhaps viewing from the outside looking in gives you a clarity I don't have. I'll leave it off for now, and please don't feel shy if you notice anything else you take issue with. I rarely experience people disagreeing with my edits in a civil manner which is sad, so any future feedback is more than welcome. MezzoMezzo 04:44, 10 September 2007 (UTC)