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::::What are you actually wanting to solve? The checkuser said you weren't likely to be the same person - if someone is disputing that, you need to find out what their reasons are and counter those. Presumably, they aren't claiming you're editing from the same IP addresses, since that's already been shown to be false. --] 12:00, 20 September 2007 (UTC) ::::What are you actually wanting to solve? The checkuser said you weren't likely to be the same person - if someone is disputing that, you need to find out what their reasons are and counter those. Presumably, they aren't claiming you're editing from the same IP addresses, since that's already been shown to be false. --] 12:00, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::I know what you mean Tango. There is nobody, ''right now'', disputing this. As you remember an "anon. IP" was the one that reported the "probable" sockpuppetry case... I'll just let you know when a registered user uses this case as a way to discredit my edits. <font color="#CE1126">]</font>''<font color="#006847">]</font>'' <sup><font size="1" color="green">]</font></sup> 19:02, 20 September 2007 (UTC) :::::I know what you mean Tango. There is nobody, ''right now'', disputing this. As you remember an "anon. IP" was the one that reported the "probable" sockpuppetry case... I'll just let you know when a registered user uses this case as a way to discredit my edits. <font color="#CE1126">]</font>''<font color="#006847">]</font>'' <sup><font size="1" color="green">]</font></sup> 19:02, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
::::::Should that transpire, at that time you're welcome to call on me for any assistance I can provide. Just let me know. ++]: ]/] 15:33, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

==Gracias, pero hay un problemita== ==Gracias, pero hay un problemita==
Chido por la foto, pero no te fijaste en el tamaño we XD, cuando lo trate de poner en mi pagina de usuario, no cabia! es demaciado grande, si tienes tiempo libre podrias hacerlo del tamaño exacto a la imagen que te di? (la de flecha roja.. gg), camara. ] 15:46, 23 September 2007 (UTC) Chido por la foto, pero no te fijaste en el tamaño we XD, cuando lo trate de poner en mi pagina de usuario, no cabia! es demaciado grande, si tienes tiempo libre podrias hacerlo del tamaño exacto a la imagen que te di? (la de flecha roja.. gg), camara. ] 15:46, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

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Evidence of Corticopia's behaviour and past accounts

Hello, Alex: I've read your comments at the 3RR noticeboard and was curious about what evidence you have that the anon IP who edit warred with you is Corticopia. I do notice some similarities in the tone of writing the IP uses; is there more than this? If there is, leave it here and I'll have a look. Note that it makes no difference concerning Tango's block of you, which I fully support. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 20:31, 1 September 2007 (UTC)


Yes. He has been editing the same articles for almost 2 years, causing problems and editwars here and there. He (or she) creates new accounts when his sockpuppetry, uncivil and disruptive manners or use of profanity are exposed, or when the account is too blocked and will caputre admin. attention with every 3RR or editwar he starts.

Recently I asked admin. Picaroon to help me with his uncivi manners in the article Metropolis. He's never willing to compromise and start a talk thus creating edit wars. This is the original message asking for help .

He in his multiple account, uses the same language, same arguments, even the same insults... even the same edit summary (as you will notice later)! He also has the tendency of editing his own comments lots of times after the 1st. entry. All his accounts present the same behaviour. Please take a look at this message, read it CAREFULLY. It was originally created to draw attention from an admin.:


"Editing at North America"

However, you must know about sockpuppetry, right Corticopia? Or should I say (links to the contributions page of every account):
Kaf, just take a look at the sockpuppetry case against E Pluribus (number 1) and to the second E Pluribus sockpuppetry case (number 2) but most importantly, check every single account BLOCK LOG and CONTRIBUTIONS. As admins know (and as stated in the sockpuppetry page), persons that use these practices always use edit summaries and have the same edit pattern.
You will see the same edit pattern in all of those accounts, for instance articles such as:
  • North America
  • Continent
  • Georgia
  • Cyprus
  • Canada (and articles related)
  • Lieutenant-Governor (Canada)
  • Central America
  • Isaac Asimov (and articles related such as Data, Star Trek...) and his sci-fi creations.
  • And many more...
Then look at Corticopia's first edit and all his edit pattern.
Sadly I opened my mouth too soon when he came back when I tried let other users know about Corticopia being the same person that came back to spread his bias and hate against Mexico and other countries (and stubbornly try to tag it as a "Central American" country), so I kinda prevent him from making that "mistake" again, he was very smart and stoped editing anything related to Isaac Asimov... but every other single article he edits is consistent with the edit pattern of the other accounts. I guess he was not very smart at the end of the day.
He's from Toronto, Canada. Guess what? Look up the IP of the other "anonimous editor" that kept erasing the fact that North America is also a subcontinent. Yeah! You're right! Those IPs are from Toronto, Canada. It is not surprising. Look at the North America talk page, first message. I left a warning note there about him and his past accounts and his repeated anon. edits from IPs from Toronto.
Yeah, that's right. As I already say, you must think everybody is like you. Sorry Kaf for this loooong message, but I think it was the time to demask Corticopia and his past. After all, he's the one that tried to "accuse" me of something HE DID and I believe he still does in the Isaac Asimov related pages (with another acc. of course). Thanks.

Also take a look at the history of every article Corticopia currently edits or is interested in. Even the first edits of each article. You will see that at least one of his previous accounts (most notably E Pluribus Anthony) has edited or started the article. For example, take a look at the history of the article I've been blocked for (Subregion). You will see his name on it.

For the anon IP behaviour look at .

Corticopia is from Toronto, that anon. IP is from Ottawa. Both from Ontario. That makes me believe he is in that city right now and that's why the main account "Corticopia" hasn't been online for 2 days now. If he logs in with Corticopia, the anon. IP will be registered in that account, providing a direct evidence that he is the same person. However, the level of knowledge about Misplaced Pages and the procedures to report 3RR violations are also clear evidence that he is the same person, as well as the use of uncivil manners and even the use of the edit summary (new users tend not to do this accordingly to Sockpuppet article).

This is a very complex case, so I recommend you to study it slowly. I honestly believe Corticopia's behaviour is not the best for Misplaced Pages.

About my blocking for 1 month, I only want to point that it seems a little extreme (the amount of time). Corticopia was blocked for 1 month, and when he started another editwar he was blocked only for 2 weeks. Thanks and I hope you can reconsider the amount of time. I believe that will only encourage his behaviour as it is clear that his target was to get me blocked and trick the system by using an anon IP. AlexCovarrubias 21:10, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

More evidence

Please take a look at User:Quizimodo's edit pattern. He's a user that only created his account in January 2007. However, if you pay attention to his contribution log, he seems to be quite an expert in Misplaced Pages's policies and of course the use of the edit summary, that again, accordingly to WP:SOCK is a clear sign of sockpuppetry. Please notice the words and style of writing he uses when talking to other editors. Very similar that the one used by the above accounts.

Quizimodo's edit pattern:

  • CityPlace (Toronto)‎
  • South America
  • North America
  • Asia
  • Americas (terminology)
  • Continent
  • Americas
  • Canada
  • Dominion
  • Dominion of Newfoundland

All this is no coincidence I believe, but you as an admin. have the tools to further investigate this and finally end it. Thanks you very much for reading all this lenghty report. AlexCovarrubias 16:57, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

All right, I'll look into this. It may take some time, though. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 18:34, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

In repsonse to your email

You appear to have misread the checkuser report - it says you are "quite likely" to be the same person as the IP address (you signed your own name, so you clearly aren't denying that), but only "possibly" the same person as Supaman89. Checkusers are not usually done at the user's request, since they are so easy to trick, however it is possible that, with both users' permissions, a checkuser would publish the full reasoning behind the result. I will ask the checkuser than did the check on your behalf. --Tango 12:36, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! As I told you, we fully support the full public disclosure of our IPs log. We want to leave no doubt about our honest contributions to Misplaced Pages. AlexCovarrubias 18:26, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
I want to acknowledge I got your mail and read it and thought about what you are asking... As I said at Picaroon's talk, I am not going to disclose that information unless there is some very compelling reason to do so. There is no need. This is a garden variety investigation. It came out inconclusively. Let your quality edits and your collegial approach, and your avoidance of edit wars,... let those things speak for you and all will be well. Misplaced Pages is a meritocracy, we don't care what you did in the past, within reason, we care what you are contributing now. ++Lar: t/c 02:28, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
That's very sad for me to hear, because I'm sure that the public disclosure of our IP log would have solved this. Thanks for your advices, I will follow them. AlexCovarrubias 02:46, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
What are you actually wanting to solve? The checkuser said you weren't likely to be the same person - if someone is disputing that, you need to find out what their reasons are and counter those. Presumably, they aren't claiming you're editing from the same IP addresses, since that's already been shown to be false. --Tango 12:00, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
I know what you mean Tango. There is nobody, right now, disputing this. As you remember an "anon. IP" was the one that reported the "probable" sockpuppetry case... I'll just let you know when a registered user uses this case as a way to discredit my edits. AlexCovarrubias 19:02, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Should that transpire, at that time you're welcome to call on me for any assistance I can provide. Just let me know. ++Lar: t/c 15:33, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Gracias, pero hay un problemita

Chido por la foto, pero no te fijaste en el tamaño we XD, cuando lo trate de poner en mi pagina de usuario, no cabia! es demaciado grande, si tienes tiempo libre podrias hacerlo del tamaño exacto a la imagen que te di? (la de flecha roja.. gg), camara. Supaman89 15:46, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

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