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Admin

I've seen you on wiki in various places and it's caught my eye. I think you'd make a good admin. I'd nominate you when you feel ready. What are you thoughts? The only issue I can see is that some feel admins need lots of edits and you have about 1300 mainspace edits, and over 2000 total edits. It may be worthwhile to get this up some before an attempt at RFA. Let me know your thoughts. Just responsd here.Rlevse 18:53, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your confidence. I wasn't expecting sometime like this anytime soon. 2000 already? That creeps up faster then I thought. I've actually been thinking about nominating myself, but never went through, mostly because the current RfA setup does demand a lot on admin nominees in terms of editcount and how many projects they're involved in. On the other hand, I've seen people become admin quite easily. What it basically comes down to is: it is never a good time to run for admin, which in turn translates to: now is as good as time as any. So, if you think I could make a good admin, then please nominate me. It can go either way, but it will none the less be a valuable learning ecperience! — Edokter • Talk • 20:37, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

You're both competent and level headed. Those are good qualities. --Mark H Wilkinson 20:45, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Mark :) — Edokter • Talk • 20:50, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

OK, go here to accept, then I'll proceed with the process:

Rlevse 21:11, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

I have accepted and answered the question. I hope they are any good... I have already transcluded it to the main RfA page. — Edokter • Talk • 22:47, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

The answers look good to me, now we just wait and see what happens. If anyone asks extra questions, answer them as quickly and honestly as you can. If anyone says anything unpleasant, keep your cool.Rlevse 23:09, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Rlevse. It's 1:00 AM here and tomorrow is work, so I won't be back until 15:00 UCT. — Edokter • Talk • 23:14, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

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Compact Disc: Logos

This is not an image "gallery" -- it's a reference collection of the authoritative logos for the various different compact disc formats. That these logos all look similar is hardly surprising, but they nonetheless are quite distinct, and each one serves a specific purpose. Are you actually familiar with compact disc standards, or are you simply rushing to judgment? Why have you summarily deleted the section again without meaningful discussion? --John Navas 02:38, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Why did you remove the thumb attributes on the logos, which thus wiped out the borders and captions? And what is the authority? Thanks. --John Navas 20:51, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Just though they looked less cluttered; they captions are still in the hints. And like any other editor, I don't have 'authority'. Anyone can edit. — Edokter • Talk • 20:55, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

I didn't think so, but wanted to be sure, and give you the courtesy of a chance to make your feelings known in advance before undoing the change (even though you haven't shown me that same courtesy).

I prefer them with borders and captions, like the other images on that page, as I created them.

Are you just trying to annoy me? Can't you think of some more constructive contribution to make?

--John Navas 21:42, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Adminship

Congratulations, you are now an administrator! If you haven't already, now is the time to visit the Misplaced Pages:New admin school and look through the Misplaced Pages:Administrators' how-to guide and Misplaced Pages:Administrators' reading list. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me, or at the Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard. Warofdreams talk 23:27, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Congrats! Some notes I made may help you. Rlevse 23:35, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! And thanks for the nomination. Know of any good RfA thanks templates? — Edokter • Talk • 23:37, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

No I don't. Most people make their own.Rlevse 23:44, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

OK, to the drawing board... — Edokter • Talk • 23:47, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

See typos I fixed on your thanks msg. Very nice looking by the way.Rlevse 12:26, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Oops! Thanks for the typos. Template is here: User:Edokter/rfa. — Edokter • Talk • 12:30, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

No problem, congratulations and good luck! My talk page is always open if you have any questions. Neil ム 13:27, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

More congrats from me! Curiously, I see you have an account on the Dutch Misplaced Pages, yet most of your participation is here. Is the English Misplaced Pages more fun? (Don't be afraid to say yes!). More seriously, are there a lot of articles only available in Dutch that should have equivalents here? (Obviously an open-ended question.. ). EdJohnston 14:05, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

No problems, I was more than happy to add my support. Have fun with it. --Mark H Wilkinson 14:31, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Congrats and you are welcome. Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 14:36, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations

You are very welcome. I'm very glad to see that you passed. Well done and happy editing! Lradrama 17:09, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

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Admin tip

When you delete things, remove everything except the reason from that text box that comes up. The reason is that the text in that box stays in the logs forever and if it has thing likes libel, slander, offensive terms, etc,....you get the idea.Rlevse 19:02, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

I will remember that. Thanks. — Edokter • Talk • 19:13, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Regarding your RfA

I actually meant to do this sooner, but you are welcome for the support. :) Acalamari 18:40, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Closing AfDs

Dear Edokter, first let me say (belated) Congratulations on your new adminship!! I hope the mop and bucket serve you well :) I just wanted to let you know about the procedure for closing AfDs. First of all, thank you SO MUCH for deleting and closing Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Draafstein, we need more admins working in AfD and it really helps a lot that you're there. If you check the AfD I linked above, I changed the closing format a little from what you had, namely subst:ing the top and bottom templates and moving the header and deletion rationale to a different place. This is pretty minor stuff, but I wanted to make sure you knew the standard format and to subst the templates. Thanks so much again and keep up the great work :) All the best, ~Eliz81 00:13, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the tips! I was actually looking for a closed AfD to see how to properly do it, but couldn't find any. (Nominator forgot to subst AfD2 template as well). I'll be hanging around AfD a lot more in the future. — Edokter • Talk • 11:01, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

I've closed a few speedied AfDs, and each time I was on the hunt for the proper procedure, but finally I bookmarked it here, if a handy dandy reference can be of service. So glad to hear you're going to be more involved with AfD!! :) ~Eliz81 15:28, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

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Britney

Hi Edokter. This RFPP request is what started the recent protection of Britney Spears's fifth studio album. The move protection was thrown in as a bonus. I think you should restore the semi. Thanks. -- zzuuzz 20:46, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

 Done. Thanks for reminding me. — Edokter • Talk • 20:57, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Template:Mfd

Regarding the change you just made, a discussion has started at Template talk:Mfd, please feel free to comment there. — xaosflux 01:35, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Editing pngfix

I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't make edits like this one, where you not only acted without any warning but also added || imgStyle.borderWidth == "0px" which you had agreed not to do at Commons:User talk:Edokter/pngtest#I give up... per the reasons I outlined there. —Remember the dot 19:27, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

I decided to include that check anyway, because 1) it prevents unnecessary processing with borderless images that have a border style but no width. 2) It will not break the script; The DOM stores zero width as "0px". If in a rare case that property would contain ie. "0em"; the script would simply jump to the span code. Also, this is wikipedia; scripts are tweaked all the time, so please don't panic when someone touches your code. I did ensure the change would not break the script and cause havoc. If you want, ask for a review on Mediawiki talk:common.js. — Edokter • Talk • 20:18, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

The Fifth Beatle (film)

Hello, i am just wondering why you deleted my page about the upcoming biopic called The Fifth Beatle. i made that page with info from the producers of the movie and don't see why it would be deleted —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hunterprice (talk • contribs) 22:04, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi. I deleted it because a large chunck consisted of a copyright violation. You cannot copy any copyrighted text onto Misplaced Pages. If you avoid copying any text from other websites, it should not be deleted again (providing the article meets all other criteria). — Edokter • Talk • 22:12, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Ok thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hunterprice (talk • contribs) 22:14, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Four Months Later...

I don't think the ellipsis character is "freaky" at all (and it's a bit more gramatically correct). Will 17:18, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

I just don't see the need to use an ellipsis (how do you type that anyway?) when three dots look and work the same. — Edokter • Talk • 18:21, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Four Months Later…

Have you ever heard of a redirect? Why is it difficult for you to enter an ellipsis? … <- I just did it with ease. Perhaps you should of stated you were moving it per MoS originally, rather than stating your opinion that you find an ellipsis "funky". Matthew 14:56, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

I probably should have mentioned MoS, but I don't want to be a policy/guideline-quoter. How did you enter the ellipses? — Edokter • Talk • 15:10, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

I entered the alt code (0133). There are times when it is best to quote policy or guidelines, anyway. Understandably not everyone knows the alt code, as such a redirect for people entering three full-stops would have worked, imo. Matthew 15:20, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Greengreg

I see you're online. Pls take a look at Greengreb on WP:ANI for me. I was involved in it-;) Rlevse 18:25, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, with his last edits over 12 hours ago, what would you advise? Indef block as SPA? — Edokter • Talk • 18:31, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

SPAs are not inherently bad nor blockable just for that reason. They to have disruption, vandalism, etc tied to them. This guy, obviously was trying to be disruptive. I'd at least give him a 3 or higher warning. FYI, if an account starts out as vandalism, it's blockable indef as a vandal only acct, but here, this is more disruption that vandalism. Given the 12 hours, I'd warn and advise GreenJoe to let you know if it returns in a disruptive manner, then block is such a case. Rlevse 18:38, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Done. Let's see what happens. — Edokter • Talk • 18:44, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Starfleet Marines

Why did you delete SFM?--Tomtom9041 15:33, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

It was a recreated page that has been deteted before (see Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Starfleet Marine Corps). It was deleted according to CSD A4. — Edokter • Talk • 18:27, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Soundtrack

Hi, I've undone your edits relating to the soundtrack; I disagree with your removal of the first album's image, and resent your having done it with no explanation whatsoever. I also disagree your moving of the Volume 1 page with no discussion whatsoever and very minimal explanation. Cheers,--Porcupine (prickle me! · contribs · status) 17:05, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Please don't do that... "Volume 1" isn't even part of the title; that's the main reason I did it. I have to follow naming convention (we all do BTW). As for the image; WP:NFCC forbids the use of fair-use images on articles to which it is not directly related. Lastly, disambiguation pages are only doen when there are three or more article with similair titles. — Edokter • Talk • 17:13, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

• The two volumes have the same title; we need to distinguish them in some way, or merge the article. A possibility.
• Are you actually saying, on the record, that the article for the second-volume soundtrack is not directly related to the article for the first?
• There are several Doctor Who soundtracks in existence. Actually. --Porcupine (prickle me! · contribs · status) 17:20, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

• They are sufficiently disambiguated using the disambig links on top of the page.
• No, the image is not directly related to the 2nd album, therefor it has to go.
• When they have articles, the a disambig page is fine. — Edokter • Talk • 17:27, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

• Well, since I happen to be right and you don't accept that, let's leave things as they were, and wait for community input. That's the way things are supposed to work round here, I believe.--Porcupine (prickle me! · contribs · status) 17:30, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

• Only policy can be right here. I've already brought it up on the wikiproject talk. I won't undo the move, but I will remove the image. — Edokter • Talk • 17:31, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, quite, I mean, why pass up an oppurtunity to edit-war? You're an admin, after all... Porcupine (prickle me! · contribs · status) 17:33, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

I said I won't undo the moves for now. You know what happens to admin who edit war... It won't happen to me. — Edokter • Talk • 17:36, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

And you said you would undo the image for now. Actually. --Porcupine (prickle me! · contribs · status) 17:38, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Policy isn't negociable in this case. — Edokter • Talk • 17:56, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, it wouldn't be, not if it supports your POV.--Porcupine (prickle me! · contribs · status) 07:20, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

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Your move

So far, I count one person in favour of the move, and one person against. From that, you managed to logically deduce that the move should take place... that's really stupid. You are required by policy to wait for community input into this. Nobody is being hurt by the slight delay. Be patient. You are the one being disruptive.--Porcupine (prickle me! · contribs · status) 12:17, 16 October 2007 (UTC)