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I assert to be the same user as commons:User:JPG-GR JPG-GR 07:38, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

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I assert to be the same user as meta:User:JPG-GR JPG-GR 00:35, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

The radio project

While we've worked in different areas of the radio project, I'm still sorry to see that you've been pushed so far as to feel the need to quit. Hopefully, Neutralhomer will change his behaviour, and you'll feel comfortable enough to return. Cheers. --Ckatz 09:31, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind words. When there are editors who are more concentrated on how the encyclopedia looks (making pretty infoboxes and making all red links blue, no matter how non-notable a station may be) rather than the actual content and accuracy of the encyclopedia, I lose interest. He and I have had many conflicts in the past, and he has yet to show any interest in taking the time to step away and consider both sides of a situation, as he is always right, no matter what policy may be violated, no matter how ridiculous his arguments may be.

Frankly, I've spent too much time on WP in the last few months, anyway. WP:WPRS will continue on without me, and hopefully flourish. May the content editors overpower the stubborn ones. Thanks. JPG-GR 17:38, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

I guess I gotta ask....was the "quitting" WP:WPRS just for show or are you and your sockpuppet actually going to do some work? I need to know, because either you have "lost interest" or you are editing articles I edit and moving articles I have created to keep an arguement going. I am not sure. - NeutralHomer 09:16, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Do me a favor and don't put merge tags on pages that don't need to be merged. Why would there need to be a merge tag on WWIL-FM when that is where is supposed to be, hmm? Da rulz07 didn't play by "da rulz" as he (or maybe you) moved WWIL-FM to WWIL, now it must be moved back. I have also had to request moves for WNNT and WLJS as they were incorrectly moved from their proper places. Tell "rule boy" about the naming convensions and how about you leave the radio station pages to people who know what they are doing. I am tired of cleaning up your messes. - NeutralHomer 09:44, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Ya see, I did look at the naming convensions and the FCC database. Seems that WLJS is WLJS-FM, WNNT is WNNT-FM and WWIL is WWIL-FM...and that is following the naming convensions. - NeutralHomer 16:57, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Which is precisely why I utilized {{mergeto}} and {{mergefrom}} and not {{merge}}. It is clear your apparent hatred for me clouds your judgment and somehow convinces you that I would intentionally begin undoing the hard work I did for months on end, and I'm sorry that you cannot see the bigger picture. I have not once made a damaging-to-WP edit, and don't intend to. But, your warped opinion of me is yours and yours alone. Just because another editor is working on one of your precious pages doesn't mean "OMG TIME TO REVERT WITH TWINKLE."

Additionally, I will continue to edit where I want and when I want, whether or not I'm an active participant in any project or not.

Finally, the sheer amount of information you remove from your talk page on a daily basis, which you feel is negative toward you, is a borderline violation of the talk page guidelines. However, it's your talk page, I couldn't care less - but you should probably be careful. JPG-GR 17:02, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

First, remember, my talk page, I can delete what I want from it, when I want...same with everyone. Second, it appears an admin agreed with me and the pages were moved back to the correct "titles", if you will, per the FCC database and the naming convensions. So, is that admin's judgement "clouded" too?

JPG, you may think I have some hatred toward you, if you do, then, well, I can't help you. I only hate two people on Misplaced Pages and you aren't one...I don't even dislike you. You do annoy the crap outta me sometimes, but I don't hate nor dislike you. If you want to think I do, that is your choice. Also, if you think I have some "protectiveness" of the articles I create, then you are WAY off. I can't, per WP:OWN, also, they are articles, not people. Now, please...run along to the red links. - NeutralHomer 17:10, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

You continue to misunderstand WP:MERGE. Of course the admin made the move. No one disapproved of it. I'm the one who found it, you're the one who reported it, and then the uncontroversial move was completed. Where is there any disagreement here, other than in your interpretation?

Your denial of showing any form of WP:OWN is preposterous. When minor edits are made that affect content in no way, you revert. When small edits are made that you don't understand, you revert. It is clear by your actions that you would rather have -your- articles look the way you want them and the templates follow -your- interpretation of the rather clear naming conventions rather than have the whole of Misplaced Pages in general and WP:WPRS specifically be as good as they can be.

And, again, this is Misplaced Pages, and I will edit where I like. Your continued attempts to run me off ("Two of the Worst, Gone! One close behind.", "run along to the red links") are laughable at best. JPG-GR 17:24, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

OK, what part of "WLJS is WLJS-FM, WNNT is WNNT-FM and WWIL is WWIL-FM" in the FCC database (which, if I am not mistaken, is what we base the naming convensions on) don't you get...or am I missing something? Also, it appears your "quitting" of WPRS was just for show and you are wanting to keep this little arguement going. It also appears that you are listening to what you want to hear (sounds like someone else I know) so I am going to let you go and do whatever, but when you mess up an article (by moving it to a wrong name) I will correct it. - NeutralHomer 17:32, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Ok, apparently I need to spell out WP:MERGE for you like I did with the WP:WPRS naming conventions for you months ago. Merge means to combine. When two articles are on the same subject, {{merge}} is for combining the information of the two. Using {{mergeto}} means "this article and the other one are to be merged, and located at that other location" and {{mergefrom}} means "this article and the other one are to be merged, and located at this location." All the tags say is "hey, there's probably something useful here than can be integrated over there, and then this can be a redirect" which is EXACTLY what you requested, barring the possible lost of a fact or two. *BIG NEON LIGHTS* WE ARE ON THE SAME DAMN PAGE WITH THOSE MERGE/MOVES FROM LAST NIGHT.

I haven't improperly moved a radio station article that I haven't immediately moved back since I joined WP:WPRS months ago. You have no need to stalk my edits for that purpose (though I'm sure you'll continue to stalk them for whatever other reason).

I edited radio station articles before being part of WP:WPRS, and if I want to after leaving, I shall. This just means that I'm not gonna crank out automatically generated templates and station lists (I'll let someone else do that work the hard way, or develop an easy way to do it in 20 seconds like I was).

You've wasted more time in the last 24 hours accusing me of false moves (which never happened), improper use of {{mergeto}} and {{mergefrom}} (which never happened), and sockpuppetry (which never happened). If you spent more time expanding your horizons, reading the various pages/policies in the Misplaced Pages namespace, not biting the veterans (which might make a new, good policy) and actually DISCUSSING edits to reach consensus (see: AM-FM vs. AM & FM templates; use of callsigns in templates, etc.) you, I, and WP would be all the better for it. JPG-GR 17:45, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

I get what Merge is...what I don't get is why you decided to merge the pages on the incorrect named page. Why not merge the pages about WNNT on WNNT-FM instead of WNNT? Why not merge the pages about WLJS on WLJS-FM instead of WLJS? That's what I don't get. You can't say you are doing things by the naming convensions when you do something like that. That would be a false move. But again, since you appear to just be more interested in arguing and reading into things, I will leave you to that. - NeutralHomer 17:52, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

You're still not getting it. Let's try this again. We both agree that the official call sign of the station is WNNT-FM, yes? We both agree that the article should be located at WNNT-FM, yes? I put {{mergeto}} on WNNT-FM () because WNNT is suposed to be merged to WNNT-FM. This is what we're both saying, this is what we're both doing, you just seem to be misunderstanding the use of the templates. Take the time and look at the templates. Take the time and look at that dif. Stop wasting your time and mine by saying "JPG-GR you seem to be more interested in arguing than reading blahblahbalh" when you continue to respond to the posts and you continue to refuse to look at the evidence that we're both working toward the same end, I'm just going about it in a way you don't fully grasp. JPG-GR 17:57, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

No, I got all that. The page was finally merged to (moved to) WNNT, not the WNNT merged/moved to WNNT-FM. That is what I am not understanding. Same thing happened on WLJS and WWIL. - NeutralHomer 18:02, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm not seeing anything other than a redirect located at WNNT (which is correct). Can you show me a dif to explain what you mean? The only moves I did last night were a few assorted AM stations to "WXXX (AM)" style to make room for dab pages. JPG-GR 18:06, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

I can't, as the history of WNNT has been wiped. Remember, I am not an admin, nor do I play one on TV. - NeutralHomer 18:14, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Then I'm not quite sure where the origin for this whole argument is. I didn't move the articles. I didn't tag them to moved away from where they're supposed to be. Whatever you did see occur, it wasn't caused by me. You're accused the wrong editor. JPG-GR 18:17, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Right, there are two editors called JPG-GR...sure. Maybe it was the one-armed man? - NeutralHomer 18:26, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Go right ahead. Ask one of your many admin friends to check the logs. I authorize it. Point them to this dif of me saying so. You're accusing me of something I didn't do, and since you would rather believe I am intentionally trying to hurt the project I put hours of work into (WP:WPRS) and not assume good faith, I'm sure you won't bother. It's much easier to paint me as the bad guy, because you're CLEARLY always right.</sarcasm> JPG-GR 18:32, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Nothing in the logs of what you speak, either ( & ). I'm very curious as to what you thought you saw. JPG-GR 19:32, 17 October 2007 (UTC)