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== incivility ==

please maintain ] in editing.<sup></sup>
:<small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]){{#if:{{{2|}}}|&#32;{{{2}}}}}.</small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

i'd like to add that i've already reffered you to the civility page on ] and on ]. there's a limit to the number of ]<sup></sup> i can take before placing a warning tag on your page. <b><font face="Arial" color="teal">]</font><font color="1F860E"><sup>'']''</sup></font></b> 13:17, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

{{{icon|] }}}{{{{{subst|}}}#if:{{{1|}}}|With regard to your comments on ]:&#32;}}Please see Misplaced Pages's ] policy. Comment on ''content'', not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to ] for disruption. Please ] and keep this in mind while editing. {{{{{subst|}}}#if:{{{2|}}}|{{{2}}}|Thank you.}}<!-- Template:uw-npa2 -->

i marked out the phrasings that you should avoid in the future:

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| quote = ''I find your need to see '''yourself as a helpless victim, unjustifiably targeted by hostile forces''', regardless of how '''destructive your actions are''', to be fascinating: '''you seem to mirror personally''' the attitude that your state takes internationally''
| cite =by User:Eleland, 11 August 2007 <sup></sup>}}

p.s. i'm not obligated to answer personal questions especially if they are baseless libel dabbled with incivility. <b><font face="Arial" color="teal">]</font><font color="1F860E"><sup>'']''</sup></font></b> 14:28, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

'''PR AN/I talk'''<br>
i find your second paragraph to be treading in a similar suggestive fashion as PR, please avoid this type: ''"an IDF member... about his involvement... is now rewriting the history..."'' of baseless insinuations and accusative phrasing in the future.<sup></sup> <b><font face="Arial" color="teal">]</font><font color="1F860E"><sup>'']''</sup></font></b> 14:20, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

{{{icon|] }}} please note ] and avoid attacking me ''for '''not''' adding you to a suspected sock complaint''.<sup></sup>

{{{icon|] }}}Please do not ] legitimate talk page comments{{{{{subst|}}}#if:{{{1|}}}|, as you did at ]}}. Such edits are disruptive and appear to be ]. If you would like to experiment, please use the ]. {{{{{subst|}}}#if:{{{2|}}}|{{{2}}}|Thank you.}}<!-- Template:uw-tpv2 -->

please do not change my validation status regarding the source you requested being checked.<sup>, </sup>. I've also noted both to user PR<sup></sup> and to you directly, requesting you assume good faith.<sup></sup><sup></sup>

* '''note''' - i really don't know how many times i'm supposed to ask you nicely to remain civil and avoid personal attacks. please avoid making "topic related comments" like this one:

::'''''You've also managed to wear down and drive away''' other contributors with '''your sheer intransigence. Good for you.''' Don't confuse exasperation with consensus.''<sup></sup>

:please consider how similar statements would be taken if i were to address them to you, and avoid repetition. <b><font face="Arial" color="teal">]</font><font color="1F860E"><sup>'']''</sup></font></b> 13:04, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

'''note:''' i wasn't aware that we are allowed to change the wordings of other editors' comments.<sup></sup> please refrain from doing so in the future, esp. when you are not directly involved in the discussion/dispute. i also note that your cynical phrasing that ''"and oh my! how interesting!"'' finalized with ''"Thanks for playing, kids."'' does not help. <b><font face="Arial" color="teal">]</font><font color="1F860E"><sup>'']''</sup></font></b> 16:07, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
::I added a similar comment at the article just now. I think it's better not to jump on other's comments when they're trying to be constructive. --] 13:48, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

'''note:''' when i noted you that i wasn't aware that we are allowed to change the wordings of other edits' comments (above) i also meant to include the context of their comments. your changing (near deletion) of your comments on the ] to which i replied to is not something i would endorse.<sup></sup>
i therefore reverted and believe i ran over a new comment made by you<sup></sup> - feel free to reinsert that comment to wherever you see fit. <b><font face="Arial" color="teal">]</font><font color="1F860E"><sup>'']''</sup></font></b> 00:20, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

* '''personal attacks''' - please don't follow me around to discussions that don't involve you, twist my words and make personal attacks. per:

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| quote = ''in other words denying that Hebron's 166,000 Arabs are people''
| cite =by User:Eleland, 14 October 2007 <sup></sup>}}

:-- <b><font face="Arial" color="teal">]</font><font color="1F860E"><sup>'']''</sup></font></b> 01:57, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

**You spoke crooked words, I straightened them. Hebron is a city of some 170,000; you referred to "the people of Hebron" as including only the 7000* Jews. <tt>&lt;]/]]</b>&gt;</tt> 02:09, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
<small>*actually, 700-800 Jews live within Hebron proper; the other 6,200 are clustered just outside the city. </small>

{{{icon|] }}}Please ] other editors{{{{{subst|}}}#if:{{{1|}}}|, which you did here: ]}}. If you continue, you '''will''' be ] from editing Misplaced Pages. {{{{{subst|}}}#if:{{{2|}}}|{{{2}}}|}}<!-- Template:uw-npa3 -->

i marked out the phrasing you should avoid in the future:

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| quote = ''Enough of your garbage, Jaakobou.''<sup></sup> .. ''What an idiotic, time-wasting bluff.''<sup></sup>
| cite =by User:Eleland, 20 October 2007}}

I'd also note that you've made a gross statement regarding (sources were checked on the main article: Battle of Jenin) - not to mention that there's nothing bloggish about UN.org or CNN. <b><font face="Arial" color="teal">]</font><font color="1F860E"><sup>'']''</sup></font></b> 17:34, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

== Turned your table into a template == == Turned your table into a template ==


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For future reference, whenever you request page protection, put the request at the top of the list so that the bot will not accidentally move it down with the completed ones above it. I have moved it there for you this time. Regards, '']''<small><sup>(<font color="0000FF">]</font>)</sup></small> 21:31, 13 October 2007 (UTC) For future reference, whenever you request page protection, put the request at the top of the list so that the bot will not accidentally move it down with the completed ones above it. I have moved it there for you this time. Regards, '']''<small><sup>(<font color="0000FF">]</font>)</sup></small> 21:31, 13 October 2007 (UTC)


== trolling ==

please stop disrupting my wikiquette notice, which does not involve you, with argumentative points such as accusing me of racism,<sup></sup> or claiming there's ample proof to support Nishidani's bigoted statements.<sup></sup>

this would, perhaps, be proper on an ANI, however, it has nothing to do with the communication problem and it's very disruptive to the ] proccess and i request that you stop. <b><font face="Arial" color="teal">]</font><font color="1F860E"><sup>'']''</sup></font></b> 02:42, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

*From the page: "Wikiquette Alerts depends on the help of interested editors to provide neutral viewpoints. Everyone is invited to participate in responding to alerts."
*I did not find your notice by stalking you, I found it because WQA has been on my watchlist since I posted there several weeks ago, to ask about your removal of maintenance tags from ].
*I know that you feel bad when I convincingly demolish your tendentious arguments with factual statements, but that doesn't make those factual statements personal attacks.
*In future, can you keep your aggrieved warnings to the "incivility" section you established here some months ago? I considered renaming it to "Jaakobou's Complaint Playground" but even I thought that was a little much.
*By all means, take it to ANI, take it to ArbCom, take it to the Wikimedia Foundation or the Anti-Defamation League or the ] for all I care. You'll be told, as always, that I've made some mistakes, that you have too, and that inflating personal acrimony into a matter of community urgency is obnoxious and uncalled for. Well, maybe not by those last two. I've made my point on WQA and I don't have anything more to say there, unless you make fresh accusations. <tt>&lt;]/]]</b>&gt;</tt> 03:45, 14 October 2007 (UTC)


*Wait, I take that last one back, now that I notice you've of the WQA page. I'll post a brief note that my comment was deleted. And if you delete my note, I'll note that my note noting the deletion was itself deleted. And if you delete my deletion notice deletion notice... <tt>&lt;]/]]</b>&gt;</tt> 03:48, 14 October 2007 (UTC)


== your notice == == your notice ==

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Turned your table into a template

I turned the table you created at Battle of Jenin into a template that can be linked to from the article. If you think that's a good idea then you might wish to blank the copy in "Discussion" to avoid confusion.

I'm disturbed to see an "I don't like it" argument appearing at that discussion - along with edits removing rather good information such as "known as Jenin Massacre in most of the world" and the "Kurdi Bear" interview. I'm not sure what we need to do to get good information into the article! PalestineRemembered 21:11, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Satanic ritual abuse

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no need to be a jerk

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Talk:Battle of Jenin

Greetings. You asked just now: "how do you feel about the prospects for moving into mediation?" Not sure if you noticed, but I put up a long post with 4 numbered questions -- in the next section. I think this will tell you how I feel about the prospects myself. Perhaps you could look at the q's and maybe respond? Or let me know if you still want me to comment on mediation prospects. BTW, please don't get distracted by the other responses to my 4 q's, that way you can help keep the thread on topic! Thanks very much. Ciao, HG | Talk 02:47, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Hopefully we'll get constructive responses from others, too. Ciao. HG | Talk 02:55, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Redirects

Hi! If you felt those Suroyo TV entries made for plausible redirects, you didn't have to contest the speedy deletion. The notice isn't binding. I've gone ahead and removed the notices. Thanks for the help! --PMDrive1061 01:29, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Don't know a thing about the topic, but even though it was by a spammy COI account the articles seem to be useful redirects, and I think that's what he was trying to do originally. I forgot that speedy tags can be removed by people who didn't create the article. Thanks for the note. <eleland/talkedits> 01:34, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Re: Template

wut do u mean by this vandulism 131.123.48.150 23:10, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

See Misplaced Pages:Vandalism; this certainly qualifies. <eleland/talkedits> 23:13, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

WP:RPP

For future reference, whenever you request page protection, put the request at the top of the list so that the bot will not accidentally move it down with the completed ones above it. I have moved it there for you this time. Regards, Jéské 21:31, 13 October 2007 (UTC)


your notice

What's that Hey, this is a spam note to anyone who has ever moved... spam with that line over it included? It looks so inappropriate. --TheFEARgod (Ч) 18:52, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

It's my idea of a joke, I guess. Don't worry about it. <eleland/talkedits> 18:53, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

<snip> per WP:NPA HG | Talk 13:38, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks so much for your short but sweet editor review comment. Feel free to add more, positive or negative, as you wish. Bye for now, HG | Talk 00:18, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Occupation 101 castlist

Can I ask you to step back and consider why you are so intent on including a giant bulleted list in the article? I am really at a loss for why this should be a major issue. Other WP articles on films do not list 30-40 cast members in this fashion. <eleland/talkedits> 00:41, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello. I moved your comment here to keep the thread in one location. To avoid duplication I prefer to discuss this on the article talk page. I will keep this thread here watchlisted also in case there is anything you feel can't be discussed on the article talk page. But I request that you please try to discuss things there. --Timeshifter 00:46, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Hezbollah

I dont know if you were talking about my edit as an excessive revert but I thought that I should explain that the removal of the HG20Ak02 citation was by accident. I had removed the other sentence because I could not find the words "legitimate" or "occupation." That was what I had been looking for, and it was not there. --Shamir1 03:55, 20 October 2007 (UTC)