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	Re - the answer is "for some values of anyone". We have had a blocking and banning policy for a good long time, there is no significant dissent from the view that "anyone can edit" does not mean "anyone can use as a forum for foolishness". We block people for consistently unproductive behaviour, and we ban them for consistently disruptive behaviour, and we have pretty much always done so. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 15:05, 29 October 2007 (UTC)		Re - the answer is "for some values of anyone". We have had a blocking and banning policy for a good long time, there is no significant dissent from the view that "anyone can edit" does not mean "anyone can use as a forum for foolishness". We block people for consistently unproductive behaviour, and we ban them for consistently disruptive behaviour, and we have pretty much always done so. Incidentally, I think you are skating on very thin ice right now, and it's showing signs of melting. Do take care. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 15:05, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

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See also Archive 1 (20 Dec 2004 - 16 Jun 2006), and Archive 2 (30 Jul 2006 - 19 Aug 2007).

BADSITES

Good essay. If you start to work on getting the WP:NPA policy changed, of work to change this in other ways, let me know and consider me on board. --David Shankbone 13:54, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Cliques

This is in response to your statement that Slim Virgin is "a powerful clique member".

There is a Clique, yes - a Conspiracy, a Cabal, a Hidden Cluster of Admins Communicating With Each Other Out Of The Public Eye Ooh Spooky Scary.

And you know what?

Slim isn't one of us.

Oh, she is an old-timer, I'll admit (and oh god, "three years ago" is "old times"?), and she's dropped by once or twice. But I'm a regular - I'm there almost daily - and in all that time I don't think I've seen her more than once. DS 02:05, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Well, the thing about cliques is that there can be more than one of them. You're obviously in a different clique from hers. *Dan T.* 02:07, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Amazing, and I thought all we regulars knew about Slim, SqueakBox 02:13, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Oh, guess, it involves SV, alternate accounts, and lots more at AN/I !

Um... if we are going to play "Good Cop/Bad Cop" couldn't you at least have told me? I might have wanted to be "bad cop"! nb. I hereby confirm that this is (intended as) a humourous edit! ;~) LessHeard vanU 16:25, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

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Don Murphy

If you are referring to the Michael Moore thing then you should understand that this is a different case. Michael Moore didn't go around demanding personal information and the address of Ted Frank. Don Murphy goes around asking for those very things. I'm not worried about what Murphy will do, I'm worried about his fans, who may do anything to please him. You may say that that does nothing to damage Wikipedians, the information is already available to these fans; but you should understand that by allowing such a link, we are almost condoning the actions taken by Murphy. I won't remove it, but I'm certainly not happy it is there. Saturday 00:05, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

See also, WP: NPA External Links. On second thought, per that part of policy, I will remove the link. If you wish to put it back we can start a discussion on the talk page with a third party. Saturday 00:11, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I've put this on WP:VPP as I am tired of seeing this issue come up over and over. Mangoe 13:02, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Acoustic coup sticks

Yes, all coup sticks are acoustic. Nice to see a sense of humor around. KP Botany 19:15, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

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Defender 911's earlier comment:"Unnecessary".

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Your concerns are understandable but this was totally out of line. If I'd wanted a diagnosis on my mental conditions, I would've asked! Please don't do this ever again!

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--Defender 911 (Leave a message!) 01:04, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

He is right, you know. We aren't a hospital, and we aren't a therapy center. Maybe you should talk to him. If you can't, find someone who can get in contact with him. You might have driven him off. --The Wiki Loner (Let's chat!) 10:26, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Those comments were in response to this, where that user objected to me using "Obsessive-compulsiveness" as the headline of a comment where I criticized his behavior. I didn't "drive him off", however; he was soon banned. *Dan T.* 12:06, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Oh, you didn't? Why does it say then, and I quote "This user left Misplaced Pages" on his talk page? And please paste your response onto my talk page so I know you've responded; I will not watch your page. --The Wiki Loner (Let's chat!) 17:41, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

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Rutabaga

Hey, I removed your Rutabaga comment because I worry it might be accused of disrupting wikipedia to prove a point / might otherwise hurt your case. But it's totally up to you-- please feel free to add it back in if you're sure you want it. Alecmconroy 20:58, 16 September 2007 (UTC) (ps, it did make me chuckle)

No, you're right... it's a shame it's gotta go. *Dan T.* 21:00, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

But "the other side" went and replaced the section, so they could use it as a launching point for attacks against me. *Dan T.* 17:03, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks!

Thanks for the heads up on Wikitruth. If you know of any others that are notable, let me know. P-J is close, but it probably skirts the definition of "anti-wiikipedia attack site" enough that it would probably just muddy the waters to include it in the list. --Alecmconroy 05:11, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice, but no thanks

BTW, there is no consensus for including these sleazy sites and even Fred Bauder has stated it. Can you show me the consensus? For example Wikitruth has articles on notable topics like David Gerard Kelly Martin and FCYTravis do we want to make it easy for people to find this crap? This is not complicated, Dan. 61.60.74.118 19:55, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Either the above user is a troll, or someone who's worldview is so far removed from reality that they should be confined for their own good. Zurishaddai 22:08, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

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What's your take? Privatemusings 07:01, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Not bad... though, if it were policy, it still would likely not stop all the fighting over so-called "attack sites" as there's still plenty of room for debate and wikilawyering over just what constitutes "harrassment" (some people seem to have a very expansionist concept of this that encompasses fairly mild unwanted criticism), and what is a "not generally known" real life identity (is everybody still expected to try to squeeze toothpaste back in a tube when somebody's been outed a long time ago, if they are still "officially" anonymous? Does the New York Times have to print the real name in question before anybody else is allowed to say it on any web forum on pain of it being declared an "attack site"?), and what constitutes "routine engagement" in these practices (if it's a web forum, do they have to do heavyhanded censorship of anything that anybody might think is outing or harrassment in order not to be considered an "attack site", even if such things are still a very small fraction of the content?) As usual, it's all in how it's interpreted and enforced, rather than in the rule itself. *Dan T.* 12:08, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

You're right about that - could I ask you what your best conceivable outcome from this controversy / debacle would be? Do we require any such policy? How can we reduce the wasted effort from the community on this issue?

My energy is directed towards encouraging a broad consensus before we test the limits - I support Newyorkbrad's work thus far, and Alec has completed some interesting analysis of specific cases previously (ED = remove, DonMurphy = keep, MichaelMoore = keep, WR = keep in context). Privatemusings 12:44, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm bothered by the "harassment" issue as well. The business of digging up some comment weeks after the fact and using it as justification for a link pogrom sounds like harassment; a a few cranky remarks in a blog that you aren't reading isn't harassment.

Right now I think we should work from the NewYorkBrad proposal; it seems to hit most of the main points clearly, and it at least is a rational starting point, rather than an act of dogma. Mangoe 13:06, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Fortis est veritas

I've been reading your contributions to various discussions across Misplaced Pages for some time now. I just wanted to throw in some support for your (apparently) unpopular stances on a variety of issues. Large portions of the vocal community here are surprisingly intolerant to rational discussion and I commend you rising above the masses. HydroMagi 18:37, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Semi-Protection of Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Attack sites/Workshop

I don't see any IP vandalism there. Would you consider unprotecting? -- User:146.115.58.152 22:00, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm not an admin, so you're asking the wrong person. *Dan T.* 22:17, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, got you and Durova mixed up. -- User:146.115.58.152 17:54, 3 October 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.98.206.2 (talk)

Editing User:Deeceevoice

Edit a user page to include such content again and you'll be blocked. One warning only. Neil ム 12:41, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Note I do appreciate the "I don't agree with what you say but I defend your right to say it" comment you made, Misplaced Pages is neither a democracy, nor is it a forum for unfettered and glorious free speech. It's an encyclopaedia, and soapboxing tirades do not help construct an encyclopaedia (in fact, they actively harm it by driving people away). Neil ム 12:45, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

In addition - the removal is also mandated by Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/Deeceevoice#Offensive_user_page_prohibition. Neil ム 13:44, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

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AGF, NPA, and BADSITES

So, I'm tired of you having all the fun of having a dedicated essay to the BADSITES issue. I've written my own little manifesto, User:Alecmconroy/AGF and BADSITES. I've also posted it to the mailing list.

The gist of it is that the ANTI-BADSITES people aren't Pro-Harassment, immoral, or trolls, and people should stop implying that they are. What do you want to bet that within 48 hours, someone will have responded to my claim that ANTI-BADSITES people aren't pro-harassment, immoral, or trolls by accusing me of being pro-harassment, immoral, or a troll? <sigh>

Your input most welcome on the essay, and the general-case version of it, Misplaced Pages:Dissent is not disloyalty. -Alecmconroy 17:08, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

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		For tirelessly defending the project against those who would enable the suppression of information from external sources and let fraudsters to run amok among us. Nice work! -- 146.115.58.152 02:00, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

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Not as such, no.

Re this comment - the answer is "for some values of anyone". We have had a blocking and banning policy for a good long time, there is no significant dissent from the view that "anyone can edit" does not mean "anyone can use as a forum for foolishness". We block people for consistently unproductive behaviour, and we ban them for consistently disruptive behaviour, and we have pretty much always done so. Incidentally, I think you are skating on very thin ice right now, and it's showing signs of melting. Do take care. Guy (Help!) 15:05, 29 October 2007 (UTC)