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Hi, Durova: if you happen to have some time and interest, I'd love it if you'd pop over to ] about some edit warring users I'm trying to handle. I've been trying to work on a community sanction for these users, but I'm quickly finding that they aren't too willing to do this. The last recourse I can think of short of ArbCom is to ask another editor to have a look at it, so that's what I'm doing now. If you're not interested or can't, I understand, but I thought I'd at least try. Thanks. ] ] 18:33, 9 November 2007 (UTC) Hi, Durova: if you happen to have some time and interest, I'd love it if you'd pop over to ] about some edit warring users I'm trying to handle. I've been trying to work on a community sanction for these users, but I'm quickly finding that they aren't too willing to do this. The last recourse I can think of short of ArbCom is to ask another editor to have a look at it, so that's what I'm doing now. If you're not interested or can't, I understand, but I thought I'd at least try. Thanks. ] ] 18:33, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
:The ] dilemma: one editor objects to identical sanctions as false equivalence. Stakes everything on the distinction. Might be too complex for the community to solve without their agreement. If it's been through formal DR already, could be a candidate for arbitration. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 18:58, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

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Bluemarine

Could you shed some light on Misplaced Pages:Suspected_sock_puppets/bluemarine_(2nd)#User:bluemarineRlevseTalk22:13, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Is there something that needs to be said here? He isn't blocked anymore. I lifted that block because he explained through offsite communication that the statement was not a legal threat toward Misplaced Pages or any Wikipedian. The context had been unclear at the time when I originally acted. Durova 06:26, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Just a clarification. The legal action was in no way directed toward Misplaced Pages, but toward MSNBC and Youtube.Matt Sanchez 20:51, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

User:Dbromage

Durova, out of courtesy I'm informing that I have mentioned you as part of evidence in action against user Dbromage. The user is suspected of utilizing at least two sock puppets, and there is also evidence of meat puppetry. The user is also vainly awarded himself a barnstar. I was unsure were my complaint should go so I have put it and here Tezza1 15:34, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

I haven't confirmed your conclusions, bear in mind. No prejudice either way; I just haven't given this a look in a while. Durova 17:06, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Suspected sock puppet of Dbromage, Thin Arthur has responded to my allegations. Please see Suspected_sock_puppets/Dbromage for his response. This user has also taken action against me here . Tezza1 12:19, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

need for endorsement of community sanction on Sadi

The reason that action is there is because there currently is no block. Jehochman blocked, Phsychim62 unblocked, Sarah blocked, DragonflySixtyseven unblocked, and that's where it sits. If the conclusion is that Sadi should be blocked, it has to actively done at this point.Kww 20:23, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Then there isn't any community ban and the Committee could impose its own. Durova 20:24, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

In Remembrance...

Remembrance Day


--nat 01:22, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Durova 01:49, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi

E-mail sent. Ral315 » 18:10, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Replied. Durova 00:22, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

The Null Device SSP

The Null Device posted on your talk page denying the prior Check User case you brought against The Null Device. There is a new SSP case against The Null Device, here. -- Jreferee t/c 20:50, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. As my summary at that checkuser request explains, I considered several plausible scenarios at the time when I filed it, some of which might have cleared The Null Device of suspicion. Durova 02:32, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Triple Crown nomination

Aboutmovies is the champion of all things DYK/GA/FA for WikiProject Oregon and deserves this award (with Oregon White Oak Cluster :)). Let me know if you need more/better proof. Thanks! Katr67 22:00, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Awesome, coming right up! Durova 02:55, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Another Oregon triple crown nom

EngineerScotty whips up fully cited, lengthy articles and makes it look easy. As a mere WikiGnome, I stand in awe of his powers of article creation. Katr67 03:41, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

It's been a while! Glad to hear he's doing great work in article space. Cheers, Durova 03:52, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

You're definitely an expert Wikipedian

I've seen your name around, here and there. AfD, maybe, VP, possibly. I know you're dedicated to the project, and the five pillars, so I'd like your opinions on an essay I'm trying to resurrect. I think we can give scientific experts some amount of due recognition, but not without first recognizing the true Misplaced Pages experts such as yourself and the people you give awards to (such as EngineerScotty, which is how I came to your page in the first place). TIA. Can I be Frank? 04:10, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

How about opening that for a content-related request for comment and listing it on the community bulletin board at the community portal? Durova 04:14, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Now this is why I wouldn't call myself an expert editor, because I'm not familiar with the community bulletin board, or how to list things there. Though I'm sure I'll figure it out if I click around long enough. ;) Can I be Frank? 00:49, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Here you go. Durova 00:56, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the triple crown!

Good to hear from you again. WRT adminship, I'll have to decline at this point--I've been busy editing articles and ignoring meta stuff, and after a wikispammer called my home phone number a while back to complain, my wife insists that I stay off RC patrol and such.  :) (Such happens when you leave your real name on your homepage and your number is in the phone book...) At any rate, thanks! --EngineerScotty 05:36, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

RfA stuff

Ok - many thanks first. However there is sense in which I'd have preferred to see others with the rights helping out on the blacklist. A. B. is obvious (& I think weakening) however equally Siobhan is a quality worker who I am trying to persuade... If you are interested then maybe comments might help? If I can help with anything let me know, cheers --Herby 09:23, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

If you see someone who looks like a good candidate for admin coaching, send them my way. I specialize, so people who want to do WP:CSD wouldn't be well placed with me. I'm particularly interested in sleuths and people who'll help run WP:COIN and WP:SSP. Cheers, Durova 15:10, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

I appreciate the retraction. I understand where your coming from as the recent level of vandalism has taken a very different turn than the early vandalism the project experienced. It used to be someone posted "poopyface", some bad word, or changed a random fact and they left. Lately, the level of disruption includes sleepers, intricate long term plots, trust abusers, etc and the admin response has been ratcheted up. My concern is that innocents are being caught up and that puts a black mark on the whole project as there have been more and more "I got banned for editing X" posts growing on forums around the Internet. Sleepers are always a problem but they will be caught eventually as they will want to continue the behavior that caused their main account to be banned (the very definition of a sleeper). In the mean time, if they do contribute positively to the project, the project wins.

I think your proposal is a decent one compared to the alternatives. I still don't like the secret evidence thing but it is the lesser of two evils. I am going to go back to vandal patrol now as I need to rethink my contributions to the admin side of this whole thing. I just put my first created from scratch article out and want to keep improving the project's view of my little corner of the world. Cheers! spryde | talk 20:23, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, there's a fairly small but active cluster of people who cause most of the headaches in this regard. And it's never been uncommon for those disruptive people who get banned from Misplaced Pages to raise vocal complaints in other fora. Again, you have my apologies for the mistake. I'll do my best to learn from it. Regards, Durova 21:16, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Railpage Australia

Hello,

An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened: Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Railpage Australia. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Railpage Australia/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Railpage Australia/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Newyorkbrad 22:58, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Edit warring

I seem to be getting into an edit war over Poi (juggling) with with B9 hummingbird hovering. I'm not sure if you are the right person to ask, but I would very much appreciate it if you would look at what is going on here and give me some direction - Geronimo20 00:38, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Have you tried an article content request for comment? WP:RFC is the link. Best wishes, Durova 00:58, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

ANI dicussion

Hi, Durova: if you happen to have some time and interest, I'd love it if you'd pop over to this discussion about some edit warring users I'm trying to handle. I've been trying to work on a community sanction for these users, but I'm quickly finding that they aren't too willing to do this. The last recourse I can think of short of ArbCom is to ask another editor to have a look at it, so that's what I'm doing now. If you're not interested or can't, I understand, but I thought I'd at least try. Thanks. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 18:33, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

The WP:CEM dilemma: one editor objects to identical sanctions as false equivalence. Stakes everything on the distinction. Might be too complex for the community to solve without their agreement. If it's been through formal DR already, could be a candidate for arbitration. Durova 18:58, 9 November 2007 (UTC)