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Unblock

Please settle down. I've protected this page for one hour; you'll have to wait to make any further appeals. – Luna Santin (talk) 21:06, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

As the protection has expired, and Aatomic1 has gone directly back to similar abuse, I've extended the block to a week, and protected this talk page for the duration. Mangojuice 00:56, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Warning

This is your only warning.
The next time you make a personal attack as you did at User:Mangojuice, you will be blocked for disruption. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Gscshoyru 16:54, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

• I am obviously sorry. Offending comment for the curious : Aatomic1 16:34, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Could Pedants please remember Headings in future?

The article Cyprian Bridge has been speedily deleted from Misplaced Pages. This was done because the article seemed to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it did not indicate how or why the subject is notable, that is, why an article about that subject should be included in Misplaced Pages. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert notability may be deleted at any time. If you can indicate why the subject is really notable, you are free to re-create the article, making sure to cite any verifiable sources.

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Question from BigDunc

can you explain to me what you are asking me to note thanks, on Birmingham pub bombings--BigDunc 10:11, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for clarification.--BigDunc 10:51, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Discussion on talk page about the list of the dead

Could you please join discussion on talk page about the list of the dead appearing in article on birmingham bombings.BigDunc 13:29, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

This is getting very silly now what are you doing scouring WP looking for places to put lists of dead people why dont you set up an obituary article and you can have your fun there.BigDunc 14:21, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Why don't we simply use my talk page for ALL innocent victims? I'm bloody interested in them and I should be able to look them up in an encyclopedia Aatomic1 14:24, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

I am interested in innocent victims too I am sure there is a page on the Paras put the names of the people murdered on Bloody Sunday on it then. BigDunc 14:27, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Aatomic1 14:29, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Aatomic1 14:31, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

I added the below to the SAS article - but Consensus was to remove it

The use of a shoot-to-kill policy has created some controversy. For instance, on 10 July 1978, John Boyle, a sixteen-year-old Catholic, was exploring an old graveyard near his family's farm in County Antrim, when he discovered an arms cache. He told his father, who passed on the information to the RUC. The next morning Boyle decided to see if the guns had been removed and was shot dead by two SAS soldiers who had allegedly been waiting undercover. Aatomic1 14:38, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

I would agree with what you put in there but why were they removed.BigDunc 14:42, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes but you are not brave enough to remove the memorials to dead British soldiers in the very same articles are You? Aatomic1 14:46, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

I am not aware of the articles have not read them but I will do. BigDunc 14:48, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Quick look at them I cant see any memorials to the dead members of these regiments.BigDunc 14:51, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Chicken!! Aatomic1 14:56, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Show me memorials to dead soldiers I cant find them. BigDunc 14:59, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Lol... Show me a single memorial on Wiki... I can't find them either. Aatomic1 15:04, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm not about memorials, I'm about adding information - not deleting it. Aatomic1 15:06, 15 August 2007 (UTC)..possibly in some deluded attempt to manipulate History?

What are you talking about you are the one who said "...remove the memorials to dead British soldiers in the very same articles are You"? I asked you where are they and then you come out with this "I'm not about memorials..." when all you have done today is tried to add them to numerous articles stop this sillyness please.BigDunc 15:17, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

I was using your definition of memorial. This is a Memorial (ie a lump of stone)Aatomic1 15:36, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

I never gave you a definition of memorial and could you please refrain from name calling. BigDunc 21:25, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Could you please stop adding lists of the dead to articles, The list fails WP:NOT#MEMORIAL, WP:NOT#INDISCRIMINATE and WP:NOT#DIRECTORY. Use the discussion pages on the articles to raise any issues you may have, thanks --Domer48 23:13, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Aatomic can you please stop adding these lists to articles without first discussing them in article talk pages and getting consensus first. Starting edit wars is not going to achieve consensus on this issue, put your case for their inclusion on the talk pages.--padraig 10:28, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Public Apology

• Yeah...I am sorry... I was angry and I do not believe it to be true. I accept that I should not do it againAatomic1 21:44, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

If that apology is for me I accept as I said the dead from any conflict should not be forgotten lets work together to come up with a solution to our differences. BigDunc 22:15, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

...Agreed Aatomic1 22:16, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Personal attacks ...

... and insinuations, of the like you made here are not appropriate. Please don't do that again - Alison ☺ 18:11, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

...Sorry

Aatomic1 22:01, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Necrothesp (Cyprian Bridge)

Hi. The main thing that needs changing is the structure of the article. At the moment it reads more like a list of bullet points than an encyclopaedia article. It needs to have sentences and paragraphs, not just a series of notes. At present it's not really long enough to need section headings either. -- Necrothesp 21:09, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

...cheers I'll put it on my to do list Aatomic1 21:13, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Attacking other editors

Hello Aatomic1. This edit is not acceptable ....

• Firstly its not true and thus a misrepresentation...
• Secondly, it is entirely irrelevent to the discussion at hand...
• I note you have already been warned...
• Subsequent to Vk's blocking, the culture of tolerance for such behaviour in articles relating to the Troubles is rapidly dissipating.
• If there is any repeat of the ...comments you have ... been warned about, then I will issue a block... please take this opportunity to consider adopting a more collegiate tone with fellow editors.
• Also, you have been a contributor to an ongoing edit war over the addition of lists of victims on various bombings. I do not know the background to this disagreement...
• If consensus cannot be reached on a talkpage, then you should

• open a WP:RfC or
• request external mediation

• reverting three times a day is disruptive. Please stop.

(Aatomic1 Precise of Rockpocket Warning) 18:03, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the warning. I'm sorry you wasted your time Aatomic1 18:40, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

You have been blocked for 1 week for your third violation of WP:3RR and for continued edit warring at Birmingham pub bombings. I'm not sure what else to tell you that has not be outlined above - you must work with other editors instead of simply re-adding your changes. Kuru 02:03, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

References

Misplaced Pages talk:What Misplaced Pages is not#Memorial guideline

...Sigh

Who is the mediator? I can ask them to postpone the closure of the case. –Animum 22:38, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

User:Dreamafter Aatomic1 22:40, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

I've alerted her. Just sit tight and wait a bit. :-) –Animum 23:20, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Mediation

Alright, I have postponed closure, so what is it that you have to say? Dreamy _!$! 12:45, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Hello. In Birmingham pub bombings, you have been the one, among some others, adding the list of the dead, so what are your referances? Dreamy _!$! 13:45, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Okay, but in a while the Times article will be removed, and so are there any more refs? Dreamy _!$! 16:53, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Alright, please go to this page check it, and then, on my talk page, confirm that I have the basic gist of what was written. Dreamy _!$! 11:58, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Would you please add why it does not breach WP:NOT#MEMORIAL. Dreamy _!$! 22:59, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Please go here when you are finished putting your full information here, and in the first link, put only 5-7 sentences. I would like it concise. Dreamy _!$! 21:50, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

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Orange Institution

Hello. In your zeal to revert on the above page, you removed not only the cites in question but a spelling error (British English for UK and Ireland articles per WP:MOS) as well as two totally unrelated paragraphs. If you're going to revert-war, at least ensure you're not reverting to a revision that's not too early - Alison ☺ 10:56, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Tá brón orm faoi sin Aatomic1 11:58, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Ceart go leor ach bí curamach as seo amach / Fair enough but be more careful from now. And please - English on the English Misplaced Pages, in deference to other editors who can't read this (and you're obviously trying to make a point) - Alison ☺ 14:13, 30 August 2007 (UTC) (also ga.wikt admin)

Instead of reverting what you have not even read would it not be wiser to provide a reference to disprove claim. BigDunc 13:12, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Ba mhaith an smaoineamh é. Aatomic1 13:37, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes, please use English on the English language encyclopedia. --Counter-revolutionary 13:47, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank You KTC

How Do I set up a page to experiment Aatomic1 19:25, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

One of many option: set up a page as sandbox, such as User talk:Aatomic1/Sandbox. KTC 19:33, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

No problems. :) KTC 15:43, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/The Troubles opened

Hello. The above named arbitration case, in which you were named as a party, has opened. Please submit your evidence directly on the case page, or, if needed, submit it via email to an arbitrator or an arbitration clerk.--Domer48 16:40, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I've removed you from the case since you were not initially listed as an involved party. You may choose to re-list yourself, however (and note that Arbitrators may re-list you should they find that your involvement qualifies you to be listed). - Penwhale | 18:10, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

User:SqueakBox has filed Misplaced Pages:Request for arbitration#User:Vintagekits which became Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/The Troubles and you are an involved party. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 16:58, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Hillclimbing in the British Islands

I didn't get around to saying this before, but thanks for finding a terminology that includes all the lands covered in the article. Eventually I do want to write about hillclimbing in the Republic of Ireland, and if I do that in the same article (which is possible, as I believe the events are very similar in format) then "British Islands" will be inaccurate... but we'll cross that bridge when we come to it! Loganberry (Talk) 16:32, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

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Harry Kirkpatrick

Hi Aatomic1, just reading the above article, and just thought I'd mention the list of names. Do you really think it lends anything to the article? --Domer48 13:49, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/The Troubles closed

The above named Arbitration case has closed. The Arbitration Committee decided that ny user who hereafter engages in edit-warring or disruptive editing on these or related articles may be placed on Misplaced Pages:Probation by any uninvolved administrator. This may include any user who was a party to this case, or any other user after a warning has been given. The Committee also decided to uplift Vintagekits' indefinite block at the same time.

The full decision can be viewed here.

For the Arbitration Committee, Daniel 08:27, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Mediation 4

You can go to this page, and talk about it. Dreamy 19:32, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Pub Bombings

I live in Brum and I sympathise. I am also a veteran of two tours in NI with an Irish Regiment so I am no IRA fellow-traveller. Please accept that this battle has battle has been fought and lost and the link is a compromise. Finally, what is the relevance of being from Brum? They were innocents; that is what matters. --MJB 17:20, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

I am not sure if you are aware of the Mediation which you are welcome to join but I dont believe that I doubt I am fighting the battle you think I am. I have been working on many aspects of this area -Frank Skuse; Griess Test which none of these editors have found fault with. In this particular article there were another set of victims namely the Birmingham Six who rightly have their own article which I have contributed to in a balanced way - here for example. However for truly balanced coverage it is right that the reader is aware of the ‘other victims'. Domer has included Marylin Nash, 22 from Pelsall and Stephen Whalley, 21 from Bloxwich as dead Brummies. They were not Brummies - and an encyclopedia such as wiki is were the reader should be able to check such facts - CAIN simply states NfNI

Aatomic1 20:56, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Please stop

I added no such thig--Domer48 20:05, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Removing My Comment

Why have you removed my comment re Birmingham Pub Bombings. BigDunc 21:46, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

You have not contributed to User:Dreamafter/Mediation/Answer/Summaries/Final/Discussion Aatomic1 21:50, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Exactly so I am uninvolved I was just saying that an edit war while mediation is on going is pointless. BigDunc 21:59, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

How are you not involved? Aatomic1 22:00, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

I just removed a list that was in mediation and which has not reached any conclusion. BigDunc 22:03, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Please stop section

Can you please explain why you added the please stop section to Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents? I have removed it since there is nothing there that requires admin attention. Metros 21:53, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

How did you reach that conclusion? Aatomic1 21:57, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Because all you did was copy and pasted a warning and said "I think this belongs here." No context whatsoever for what you believe admins need to do with a warning. Metros 22:00, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Are you saying it clearly does not belong or that it might but was not clearly explained? Aatomic1 22:03, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Both. I don't think that any explanation you give can explain why we need to see that warning. Metros 22:04, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

I guess there is no point in me giving an explanation then Aatomic1 22:20, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Kilrea

Yes. It would be right to change that to Cill Ria. Gasaitéar na hÉireann gives Cill Ria for Kilrea, Co. Derry. An Muimhneach Machnamhach 09:57, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Níl a bhuíochas ort! (You're welcome!) An Muimhneach Machnamhach 11:59, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Prod notification

I see you've added Sutton House Hotel as a link in the Erdington article. I've proposed this article (Sutton House Hotel, not Erdington!) for deletion, as I can see no evidence of notability about it whatsoever. – Tivedshambo (talk) 10:18, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

BPB

Please do not add the list of dead. Either comment on the disscusion page, or you will be blocked. Dreamy 22:50, 16 November 2007 (UTC)