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*I have stricken the "Please do not wheel war" part of my above request. Any administrator acting in good faith may reverse my action here. If you want it, its available. That is to say, if you would like to prolong that discussion that appears to be not generating consensus, and not going anywhere. My recommendation is to leave the protection. ] 18:21, 22 November 2007 (UTC) *I have stricken the "Please do not wheel war" part of my above request. Any administrator acting in good faith may reverse my action here. If you want it, its available. That is to say, if you would like to prolong that discussion that appears to be not generating consensus, and not going anywhere. My recommendation is to leave the protection. ] 18:21, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

==Warning==
Mercury, to comment on ] is okay. But to use your admin tools with relation to it, since there is an obvious relationship between you and Durova because she co-nominated you for admin, is unethical. If you use your admins tools to interefere with that discussion again, I'm going to request your immediate desysopping, and I request that anyone else do the same. ] (]) 22:14, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

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The Working Man's Barnstar
I, Durova give Navou The Working Man's Barnstar for rolling up the sleeves and taking on the tough assignments at Misplaced Pages:Community noticeboard. Keep up the good work. Durova 01:38, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
The Tightrope Trophy, representing the amazing Charles Blondin carrying Jimbo Wales safely across the Niagara Falls, is hereby awarded by Bishonen to Mercury for his amazing balancing act at Homeopathy.
The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
I'm awarding you this Barnstar for all your work protecting[REDACTED] from the vandals, in particular the revert and protection of my talk page, Thanks! Tiddly-Tom 16:27, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
The Invisible Barnstar
For being with us for so long, and for fighting for this cause for years to come. Come, celebrate, raise a blass Marlith /C 02:22, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
The Resilient Barnstar
Good to see you back. Hang in there. Raymond Arritt (talk) 16:32, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Smile

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Maxim 00:25, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

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Nominating AIV for MfD

Catastrophe averted. Misclicked twinkle? Will 01:34, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, messing with the scripts. Apologies, Mercury 01:53, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Pandora's box indeed. (:-)- Mtmelendez 02:30, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Gorn Confederation

You marked Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Gorn Confederation with the {{closing template but did not actually close the discussion. Since it had been longer than the 1 hour recommended by the template and something seems to have come up for you, I removed it to encourage someone else to close. Hope you are well. Eluchil404 08:57, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Semi-protection of RuneScape

On WP:RPP, you said you had semi-protected RuneScape, as I requested; however, the page's log says you unprotected the already unprotected page instead, and it still isn't semi-protected. (I checked this by logging out and trying to edit it.) Could you please semi-protect the page? Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 17:49, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

I've had three misses with this new script. Bear with me while I get used to it. Protected. Regards, Mercury 17:56, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Protection requests

I apologise for requesting those. I thought I was trying to be helpful, but I've done it wrongly requesting those. Sorry. --Solumeiras 18:03, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Your request was civil and logical. There are guidelines and such the help us determine where to apply protection. There was no harm in the request. No apology is needed. Keep up the good work. :) Mercury 18:04, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

RFA for Jonathan

I just wanted to let you know that I was actually able to see where you were coming from when Acalamari put it in terms of WP:Assume good faith. By the way, I just saw his RFA was closed, should that have been done? It was closed by a non-admin, which is unusual. Drop me a line and let me know what you think. Happy editing! Icestorm815 21:44, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Sure. SNOW is not a policy, but something that we sometimes use. The RFA was highly unlikely to pass. Before I became an admin I've closed a couple that were highly unlikely to pass. It serves to prevent hard feelings and cuts a discussion short that has a particular end in sight. Only those experienced editors, admins or not, should be closing discussions as SNOW. Anymore questions be glad to answer. Mercury 05:21, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Dominionism

You're usually good at these things. Can you protect the article. We've got me and bunch of others (some of whom are now participating admins), and some others on the other side edit warring. I'm at 3RR (no warning or blocking necessary). Can you protect the article and help build a consensus? The other side is wrong BTW :) OrangeMarlin 19:15, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

I've protected the article, I'll see if anyone is interested in some informal mediation. Mercury 19:53, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks!!!! OrangeMarlin 20:05, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Email

E kala mai. You have an email. --Ali'i 13:57, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

As do you. Mercury 13:58, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

I've created a monster

Best wishes with your candidacy! It was a pleasant surprise to see you'd thrown your hat into the ring. Warmly, Durova 04:59, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, and you as well. I think I'm clueful enough to be an asset, so we shall see if the community will permit me to do this. I hope so, I have the desire. Mercury 17:20, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Whig's back.

So far, so good, but if you're not monitoring him, I'm going to have to reblock him.° Adam Cuerden 00:53, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Mercury, does this appear to be an unreasonable edit? Whig 02:38, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi, and welcome back. I'm not all up with the subject, I think it would be dependent on the source. What does the sourcing say? Regards, Mercury 02:57, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Google kali bichromicum and there are many sources. What statement needs better sourcing? Whig 03:00, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for the quick google link. :) When I change or add an assertion, I try to add a reliable source. It helps me to have some ground to stand on if ever my edits get challenged. In the beginning, I used external links but as I learned Misplaced Pages, I started using what I believe are reliable sources. I'm not saying that this is you saying headache, but its always better to point at a source and say "This source asserts "headache". Regards, Mercury 03:21, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Should I add back my edit and add an RS? I don't want to provoke an edit war. Adam deleted it . Whig 03:34, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
This would be an area where niceties are going to be important. Propose the Source on the talk page, and leave Adam a message on his talk page pointing him to the talk page. Ask him if he has any objections, if not, re add the edit. This prevents hard feelings in a content dispute, Downside, it may take time for Adam to respond. But hey, the article won't rot in a day. :) Regards, Mercury 03:36, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
I think I see the confusion here, the edit history is concealed because there are several consolidated there. As far as it being a headache remedy, that is stated on the HeadOn article itself. Whig 03:43, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
It's not one of the defining facts about Potassium dichromate that it's used in homeopathy, funnily enough. Almost every basic substance and botanical is. Adam Cuerden 08:20, 15 November 2007 (UTC)


Also, this comment:

There are a number of physical models proposed, including Bénard cells, vibrations, etc. We don't have instruments that I'm aware can prove which physical model is correct at this time, but we do know by the first law of thermodynamics that all energy is conserved, and we do know from quantum mechanics that particles and waves are physically interchangable. The atomic limit is not a real limit in physics. Whig 00:20, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Is profoundly stupid. Adam Cuerden 08:20, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

? Mercury 11:18, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

In context, he's basically listing a lot of physics terms and claiming one of them is the proof of homeopathy, though he doesn't know which one. Adam Cuerden 15:04, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
  • sigh* he hasn't changed. I've reblocked him. He was starting to advocate for removing all criticism of Homeopathy from the lead again. The fellow does not understand NPOV, and is incapable of doing so. Adam Cuerden 20:21, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Mercury, as you've been working with User:Whig and probably have a better perspective on this matter than I, I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on this block at AN/I. MastCell 18:12, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm going to refrain from commenting on the reblock for now. Regards, Mercury 03:21, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Why nearly block?

Why consider blocking me? You can see that I didn't take the 3RR policy as a permission to 3RR anywhere (see the St Johnsbury article), in contrast to Polaron actually committing a 4RR; and that I noted that I'd not go any farther, despite the 4RR. Nyttend 01:04, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Any xRR beyond one , is disruptive. What you two were doing warranted a block, but since you are both contributing editors and I did not see any aggravating factors, I protected the pages involved. I normally issue out userblocks for this sort of thing. See WP:Edit warring. Regards, Mercury 01:22, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Main Page

Surely I can't be the only person who noticed this... what was that all about? – Gurch 00:31, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

I was multitasking. Mercury 03:21, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
OK. Sorry for not assuming good faith – just that the last time someone fiddled with the Main Page, it was because they'd found the passwords to three administrator accounts. Important to know that sort of thing isn't going to happen again. Thanks – Gurch 16:44, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
No, no apology needed for this. When account security is concerned, any suspicious behavior is worth investigating. Had I known that was what you were getting at, I would have sent you the challenge to my committed identity hash, and the offer still stands if you would like to verify me. Regards, Mercury 20:01, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Re: 3RR

hey Mercury, concerning this:....I think you actually supposed to list the time the individual is blocked for...  Avec nat | Wikipédia Prends Des Forces.  13:03, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, fixed. Mercury 13:30, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar!

The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
I'm awarding you this Barnstar for all your work protecting[REDACTED] from the vandals, in particular the revert and protection of my talk page, Thanks! Tiddly-Tom 16:27, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
Thank you. :o) Mercury 16:37, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

stop

please do not edit my page as I am trying to delete my page. "It will randomly work out" (talk) 22:40, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

yes i would like it if you did delete my page. "It will randomly work out" (talk) 16:33, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Privatemusings

An Arbitration case involving you has been opened, and is located here. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Privatemusings/Evidence. Please submit your evidence within one week, if possible. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Privatemusings/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Picaroon (t) 18:44, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

A Question for You

I've looked over WP:Block and WP:Ban, and I'm still a little confused with the difference between a block and a ban? Is a ban a long, or indefinite form of a block? Could you please help me and clarify it for me? Thanks! Icestorm815 (talk) 20:02, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Sure...the most fundamental difference, is that a BLOCK is a technical feature in the software. If I BLOCK you, then the only thing the software will permit you to edit is your own talk page. If you become BANned, this is a social construct. If by discussion involving several uninvolved editors results on a consensus to ban you from editing pizza articles, then you don't edit Pizza articles. Once you edit a pizza article, it may result in a BLOCK of your editing. There are many types of BANs. The implications of both a BLOCK in a BAN are detailed in those policy documents. Let me know you have specific questions about those. Regards, Mercury 22:22, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, that just about covers it! Icestorm815 (talk) 02:45, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

My talk page

The vandalism is minor and no trouble to revert, so I'd prefer to keep my talk page open for any genuine IP questions. Thanks for looking out for me though. Tim Vickers (talk) 22:46, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Your welcome. And same. ;) Mercury 22:47, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

ArbCom questions

Hi. I'm Ral315, editor of the Misplaced Pages Signpost. We're interviewing all ArbCom candidates for an article next week, and your response is requested.


Thank you for asking.

  1. What positions do you hold (adminship, arbitration, mediation, etc.)?
    First and always, I'm an editor. I also do some janitorial work for the project. I indirectly help by answering emails
    sent to the wikipedia/wikimedia email addresses via the OTRS system.
  2. Why are you running for the Arbitration Committee?
    I've done some dispute resolution, and I have what it takes to arbitrate. I'm on every day, and I know I would like the work.
  3. Have you been involved in any arbitration cases? In what capacity?
    No real involvement. I have produced evidence in #:Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/Jmfangio-Chrisjnelson after a failed #:mediation. I'm a party to Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Privatemusings currently.
  4. In the past year, are there any cases that you think the Arbitration Committee handled exceptionally well? Any you think they #handled poorly?
    I won't question the arbiters. They do hard work, and since I'm on the outside looking in, I don't have all the information.
  5. Why do you think users should vote for you?
    I know the system, I have the aptitude, and I'm available.

Please respond on my talk page. We'll probably go to press late Monday or early Tuesday (UTC), but late responses will be added as they're submitted. Thanks, Ral315 » 04:47, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Protection

What's your basis for that? I'm going to unprotect unless you can explain what aspect of the protection policy you're applying. Christopher Parham (talk) 17:59, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

I have ignored all rules for the betterment of the project. Please do not reverse the protection. Mercury 18:05, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
You do realise that you will get admins reverting your reversions to the protected version, and that you will have to block and edit war to try and keep that page locked down? I'm not going to be around for the next few hours, but I'd recommend you lift the page protection and let this business sort itself out by discussion. It can't be contained by force by the time it's reached this stage. Protection doesnt' work because admins can edit the page. By reverting their addition to the page, you are effectively wheel-warring their use of admins tools to add their comments. Carcharoth (talk) 18:12, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Still waiting on an actual reason. In the past, closing active discussions has been frowned upon because it only adds more fuel to the fire (e.g., we now have another ill-considered administrative action to discuss). See e.g. the Daniel Brandt wheel war arbitration case. In any event I am stepping out so you have some hours. Christopher Parham (talk) 18:13, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Since when are admins allowed to protect disputed pages they're editing? AniMate 18:17, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
I agree. It is technically abuse of admin tools and restricts the discussion to admins. Carcharoth (talk) 18:18, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
I've reverted to the protected version, and admins should not be editing. Additionally, it is pretty obvious I've not protected the page to support myself in the discussion. Heck, I can't even find my edit. Mercury 18:20, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
  • I have stricken the "Please do not wheel war" part of my above request. Any administrator acting in good faith may reverse my action here. If you want it, its available. That is to say, if you would like to prolong that discussion that appears to be not generating consensus, and not going anywhere. My recommendation is to leave the protection. Mercury 18:21, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Warning

Mercury, to comment on this thread about Durova is okay. But to use your admin tools with relation to it, since there is an obvious relationship between you and Durova because she co-nominated you for admin, is unethical. If you use your admins tools to interefere with that discussion again, I'm going to request your immediate desysopping, and I request that anyone else do the same. Cla68 (talk) 22:14, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

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