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Revision as of 05:20, 17 December 2007 editAlansohn (talk \| contribs)Autopatrolled, Extended confirmed users, Pending changes reviewers, Rollbackers504,741 edits justification for removal of mention of ''Hearts and Minds (film)'' due to WP:BLP issue?← Previous edit		Revision as of 10:54, 17 December 2007 edit undoRlevse (talk \| contribs)93,195 edits →Hearts and Minds: this is whyNext edit →
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	A reference to clips of Coker prominently featured in the documentary film '']'' were removed with a "justification" that the mention violates ]. Can anyone point to any portion of the relevant Misplaced Pages policy that would provide an explanation of how on earth the bland statement included here in the article violates ]? ] (]) 05:20, 17 December 2007 (UTC)		A reference to clips of Coker prominently featured in the documentary film '']'' were removed with a "justification" that the mention violates ]. Can anyone point to any portion of the relevant Misplaced Pages policy that would provide an explanation of how on earth the bland statement included here in the article violates ]? ] (]) 05:20, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
			:Yes, I personally know Coker and he's asked that no reference be made to the movie. This was by a phone call to me. In BLP it refers to ArbCom tending to defer to the living person's desires in such cases. While the movie did win an award, very few people have heard of it, so I also think it's simply not that important. I believe he's also not that central to the movie. In addition, you made made a whole section out of one line, which is not good form. I also ask that we leave this one item out. <span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 10:54, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

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Awards

Should the awards listed near the end go in the infobox? Should DESA be listed under other work? --Gadget850 ( Ed) 13:35, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. I changed other work to DESA. I've thought of adding all military awards to the info box, but it'd make an even bigger white space to the left (this is more of a problem with IE than FF, and most people have IE). I have both IE and FF now at home, and I've discovered some interesting rendering differences. Rlevse 13:53, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

From the guidelines for the "Awards" entry of the military infobox: "awards – optional – any notable awards or decorations the person received". For the Marine Corps biographies, we have been using the guideline of listing medals, in order of precedence, down to the Purple Heart. In the case of CMDR Coker, the POW medal is significant, as his leadership as a POW is a significant part of the article. Thus, based on the typical usage of the entry, the listing is good as it is. —ERcheck (talk) @ 23:23, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

GA awarded

Though this seems short ... it is sweet and says what it has to say. If more can be found about this nice army man then add to the article. GA granted. Lincher 03:27, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

He was in the NAVY -;)Rlevse 19:49, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

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Film reference

I changed the Faith of My Fathers reference to the 2005 film, which is the John McCain biography (also referenced in his Wiki article). — ERcheck (talk) 15:45, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

GA Sweeps (Pass)

This article has been reviewed as part of Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force. Since it was (briefly!) reviewed for GA status in 2006, the GA criteria have significantly changed. However, I have thoroughly reassesed the article and am happy to confirm that it still meets the standards required of a Good article.

I did make some minor alterations to the text dealing with Coker's 'fierce resistance to captivity', as I felt the grammar could be improved to remove potential editorialising. I also noticed that the citation given at the end of the Personal information section only covers roughly the second half of this section; sources should be found for the rest (I have added a fact tag to indicate where). As a final point, "6.5 years" in the lead (and the other similar measures in the Military service section) might be better using "6½ years" etc instead... but I can't find this in the WP:MOS at the moment, so I may be wrong ;)

Congratulations on the GA sweep pass! The article history has been updated to reflect this review. Regards, EyeSerene 11:20, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Hearts and Minds

A reference to clips of Coker prominently featured in the documentary film Hearts and Minds were removed with a "justification" that the mention violates WP:BLP. Can anyone point to any portion of the relevant Misplaced Pages policy that would provide an explanation of how on earth the bland statement included here in the article violates WP:BLP? Alansohn (talk) 05:20, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I personally know Coker and he's asked that no reference be made to the movie. This was by a phone call to me. In BLP it refers to ArbCom tending to defer to the living person's desires in such cases. While the movie did win an award, very few people have heard of it, so I also think it's simply not that important. I believe he's also not that central to the movie. In addition, you made made a whole section out of one line, which is not good form. I also ask that we leave this one item out. — Rlevse • Talk • 10:54, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

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