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	::Doc, were you in the channel at the time - yes/no? ] (]) 23:30, 23 December 2007 (UTC)		::Doc, were you in the channel at the time - yes/no? ] (]) 23:30, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
	I extended your block to 24 hours, because it's clear that a one-hour block isn't solving this problem. --]] 23:31, 23 December 2007 (UTC)		I extended your block to 24 hours, because it's clear that a one-hour block isn't solving this problem. --]] 23:31, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
			::OH good for you! and the funniest thing of all is that Sidaway is blocked from #Admins for half an hour for his attack! You must be real proud of yourselves in there. ] (]) 23:33, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

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And merry Christmas to you, Giano! Mr Which ??? 20:49, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

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You violated the 3RR on Misplaced Pages:IRC channels/wikipedia-en-admins. Continuing to edit war may result in a block. David Fuchs 22:35, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Blocked!

I seem to find myself blocked. Never mind, I am quite sure that Wikipedians are quite used to seeing me threatened and blocked for making them aware of what is going on. In short, a non admin in the #admins channel two days ago harassed, insulted and intimidated a female admin in that same channel. What he was doing there I have no idea. When I pointed out his behaviour was unacceptable it was unceremoniously removed and the usual crowd of "men" from IRC accused me of personal attack attempts to then mention that such behaviour exists in the Admins' private channel has too been reverted by admins Finally, I stopped attempting to report fact after Jimbo interfered . Now I am blocked for adding a truthful codicil to Jimbo's statement and the truth once again is removed.

If any of you reading this are being discussed by Admins in #Admins, do you wish to have those Admins hectored and insulted by Tony Sidaway if they do not agree with his point of view? Do you want your admins to sit silently and listen to a female Admin being called a "bastard bitch from hell" and an "Arsehole" until she leaves the channel. As Tony (a non-admin) says on IRC in his own words "this is an admin channel and often admins are talking about problem users" - funny that isn't it? Merry Christmas to you all. Giano (talk) 23:04, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Wow. Just wow. Do we care so little for actual content creation as to let rogue admins behave in such a way? Amazing. Mr Which ??? 23:09, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Giano was blocked for a whole ONE HOUR for edit warring (not be me), not for comments about en-admins. Let's not make this more dramatic than it is. Were there unacceptable comments in #admins? Yes. Was editorialising and making comments on a particular case in an wikipedia essay and then edit warring the way to highlight it? NO. Please can we seperate the issues out. --Doc 23:13, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Fair enough, I look at the edit and I can understand the rationale. Frankly I have no idea what possible value there would be to reporting to Jimbo. He has no authority in the channel, he is not either the owner or the operator.Risker (talk) 23:14, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

All you need to know etc is here they are obviously very concerned as I'm not just blocked they have protected the page as well . Very hard efforts to keep this one quiet - I keep telling them to be more careful in the channel - will they listen? - On No! Giano (talk) 23:17, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

(ECx2) The issues aren't separate. Bad admin actions are bad admin actions. Blocking Giano for any duration for the actions I saw at en-admins is way beyond the pale of acceptable actions in the circumstance. What about Sidaway? He dances along unscathed after the vile things he wrote? Now I'm back to work on actual content. Mr Which ??? 23:19, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Giano, please don't engage in conspiracy theories. "They are obviously very concerned" - who's 'they'? And about what? Since I'm included in they "they" I guess, let me be clear. Yes, I'm concerned. I'm concerned about incivility in #admins - people should not have impunity to be incivil there (just as they should not have it on wikipedia either). But I also reject your methods. I reverted you on the essay page because your method was inappropriate NOT because the concerns expressed should be silenced. Indeed I've done nothing this evening other than raise those same concerns via private communications to various parties. This is not a black and white, them against us, guys in white hats versus the evil cabal, issue. It is possible to take your concerns seriously whilst rejecting your methods (indeed your methods only serve to increase the noise, not the communication).--Doc 23:28, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Doc, were you in the channel at the time - yes/no? Giano (talk) 23:30, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

I extended your block to 24 hours, because it's clear that a one-hour block isn't solving this problem. --Core desat 23:31, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

OH good for you! and the funniest thing of all is that Sidaway is blocked from #Admins for half an hour for his attack! You must be real proud of yourselves in there. Giano (talk) 23:33, 23 December 2007 (UTC)