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Karyn Kupcinet

For a newbie on the page, you did quite a bang-up job reverting the entire page back over all the step by step edits that have been made, which were the consensus of the other editors who have worked on this article, and the reasoning given for each one, to the last one that Dooyar put in, complete with all the erroneously formatted "further reading" references and ignoring everything in between. Yet, the only changes you put in your edit summary were the two very minor changes you made to Dooyar's edit of 2 December at 06:01 am, #175237085. In fact, you changed the entire article with your reversion. Since I am going to assume good faith here for the moment, could you please explain what made you choose that particular edit to revert to and why you ignored the entire discussion on the talk page regarding the last few days?

You said "Saying this woman had a problem with drug abuse is just as speculative as saying she had an eating disorder" and yet that wasn't what the discussion was about. Had you read it more carefully, and checked the changes that were made, you would see that the point I was making was about the perception the other editor was reflecting, and indeed, said, "because "Drug abuse" suggests narcotics." My point was not whether she was a drug abuser, but that the use of the phrase is a general term covering a variety of drugs (speed, diet pills, cocaine, as well as the more generally accepted narcotics). No one was actually arguing that she was a drug abuser. In fact, when you reverted wholesale as you did, you reverted the change in that title, which I changed to "Issues with weight," since, even by your logic, we can't say she had an eating disorder any more than we can say she was a drug abuser, which is why we can't say it was a possible eating disorder. There is no proof. Nor is there any proof to say that Karyn Kupcinet wanted the same kind of attention. It's speculative.

Your reversion also removed a protection tag placed on the page by an adminstrator, which is quite unacceptable. Again, I am going to assume good faith for the moment, but it is rather odd to me that being a newbie on the page, you made the choices that you did regarding your edits. Wildhartlivie 22:44, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Drug abuse might be a general term, but it still means abuse. It's speculation. If I have a cold and I take a dose of Theraflu, and it doesn't do anything, would taking another dose four hours later be drug abuse? James Ellroy called Karyn "a hophead," and surely you don't like that. It's speculation. We do have that strange press interview where Karyn talked on and on about her weight. We know she didn't say anything about her work on the TV show. Oh, did you change it to Issues with weight? I'll change it back.

I never said we should say in the article that little Cookie wanted attention. We should say that she met all those celebrities. That makes an impression on any child. When she was real little they weren't there, but then she watched her father's circle get bigger and bigger. That's important. There were kids in Hollywood who met a lot of awesome people back then, but in Chicago? Did you know the young Cookie never had the name Karyn until she was 20? For that reason you can't call her Karyn until she starts getting acting jobs.Debbiesvoucher 23:21, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Again, you have rolled back the entire article over what is now over 25 intermediate revisions to a version written by Dooyar, who, interestingly enough, also has used the exact phrase of "James Ellroy called Karyn 'a hophead.'" When you did this, you removed a protection tag placed on this article by an administrator. Wildhartlivie 00:10, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

"Interestingly enough" is POV. Millions of people have read and cited the works of James Ellroy. According to you, they are all the same person. Debbiesvoucher (talk) 21:24, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Dorothy Dandridge

If you would consult Misplaced Pages:DATE#Autoformatting_and_linking you will find that how a date is displayed is determined by the personal preference settings of the individual registered user through the use of wikilinks. Thus, I changed the wikilinked dates back to the original format. In regards to the quote noted regarding an alleged comment by someone at the death site, a source is needed to support the inclusion of this comment, not a further ambiguation of who may have said it. It was added on August 12 by User:Mook2321. It will likely be deleted soon if a source isn't given. Thanks. Wildhartlivie (talk) 02:38, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

January 2008

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Dooyar, you are well aware of what is and is not acceptable in an article, and how to properly cite material in them. Statements such as Please do not change it unless you have at least one book by Alex Barris in front of you. Can't get either one ? Then leave it alone are uncivil and rude and do not conform to Misplaced Pages's guidelines for etiquette. See WP:Etiquette. If you cannot conform to proper behavior on Misplaced Pages, nor want your contributions edited or removed for POV and other issues, then kindly stop making them. This is beyond tiresome and must stop. Wildhartlivie (talk) 04:13, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Your attitude is beyond tiresome and must stop. That's how you act on New Years Eve ? Please get some help. There are people who are not afraid of interlibrary loans. Some libraries charge nominal fees for them, but your Internet service costs money, too. So does your indoor plumbing. So does your electricity. Stop shucking responsibililty. I'm reporting what you said as a personal attack. Debbiesvoucher (talk) 04:31, 1 January 2008 (UTC)