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==Evidence presented by The Fat Man Who Never Came Back==
===Case Study: SandyGeorgia offers patient, competent and ongoing mentorship to difficult editors===
Much of my experience with Sandy has centered around the formerly problematic editor . ATC's early contributions consisted of singularly unhelpful, poorly written and POV/OR-heavy edits to Autism- and Nickelodeon-related articles. Her seeming obliviousness to the project's policies and to attempts to communicate were so pronounced that I was convinced she was a sockpuppet of ]. ATC ignored comments and warnings from well-meaning users, didn't use edit summaries, uploaded copyrighted material and was generally such a nuisance that she was eventually and repeatedly blocked, after which time she employed abusive sockpuppets to continue making poor quality edits.


Though many (myself included) believed that there was no hope for this editor, SandyGeorgia (who suspected ATC may suffer from some of the neurological ailments described in the articles she chose to edit) took ATC under her wing once her month-long block expired. SG spent over a month showing ATC how to use a talk page, how use an edit summary, how to edit transcluded templates, how to create footnotes, how to identify reliable sources, and carefully answered every question ATC posed. Please review the to get a sense of the extraordinary time and effort Sandy spent, successfully molding an apparent lost cause into a productive editor. ATC's contributions now more closely resemble those of a seasoned editor.
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Though I cannot specifically speak to Zeraeph's and SV's accusations of ill treatment (I am wholly unfamiliar with the dispute), '''I must reject any suggestion that SandyGeorgia is even slightly impatient, unkind or unsympathetic toward difficult editors--particularly those with neurological/psychological conditions.''' In my experience, she's the most generous, helpful and cooperative figure to be found upon the English wiki.--] (]) 20:48, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
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Evidence presented by The Fat Man Who Never Came Back

Case Study: SandyGeorgia offers patient, competent and ongoing mentorship to difficult editors

Much of my experience with Sandy has centered around the formerly problematic editor User:AnnieTigerChucky. ATC's early contributions consisted of singularly unhelpful, poorly written and POV/OR-heavy edits to Autism- and Nickelodeon-related articles. Her seeming obliviousness to the project's policies and to attempts to communicate were so pronounced that I was convinced she was a sockpuppet of MascotGuy. ATC ignored comments and warnings from well-meaning users, didn't use edit summaries, uploaded copyrighted material and was generally such a nuisance that she was eventually and repeatedly blocked, after which time she employed abusive sockpuppets to continue making poor quality edits.

Though many (myself included) believed that there was no hope for this editor, SandyGeorgia (who suspected ATC may suffer from some of the neurological ailments described in the articles she chose to edit) took ATC under her wing once her month-long block expired. SG spent over a month showing ATC how to use a talk page, how use an edit summary, how to edit transcluded templates, how to create footnotes, how to identify reliable sources, and carefully answered every question ATC posed. Please review the history of ATC's talk page to get a sense of the extraordinary time and effort Sandy spent, successfully molding an apparent lost cause into a productive editor. ATC's contributions now more closely resemble those of a seasoned editor.

Though I cannot specifically speak to Zeraeph's and SV's accusations of ill treatment (I am wholly unfamiliar with the dispute), I must reject any suggestion that SandyGeorgia is even slightly impatient, unkind or unsympathetic toward difficult editors--particularly those with neurological/psychological conditions. In my experience, she's the most generous, helpful and cooperative figure to be found upon the English wiki.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back (talk) 20:48, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

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