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Welcome to my talk page. Please leave me a note by starting a new subject here and please don't forget to sign your post You may want to have a look at the subjects in the header of this talkpage before starting a new subject. The question you may have may already have been answered there Dirk Beetstra

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I am the main operator of User:COIBot. If you feel that your name is wrongly on the COI reports list because of an unfortunate overlap between your username and a certain link or text, please ask for whitelisting by starting a new subject on my talkpage. For a better answer please include some specific 'diffs' of your edits (you can copy the link from the report page). If you want a quicker response, make your case at WT:WPSPAM or WP:COIN. COIBot - Talk to COIBot - listings - Link reports - User reports - Page reports

Responding I will respond to talk messages where they started, trying to keep discussions in one place (you may want to watch this page for some time after adding a question). Otherwise I will clearly state where the discussion will be moved/copied to. Though, with the large number of pages I am watching, it may be wise to contact me here as well if you need a swift response. If I forget to answer, poke me. I preserve the right not to answer to non-civil remarks, or subjects which are covered in this talk-header. ON EXTERNAL LINK REMOVAL There are several discussions about my link removal here, and in my archives. If you want to contact me about my view of this policy, please read and understand WP:NOT, WP:EL, WP:SPAM and WP:A, and read the discussions on my talkpage or in my archives first. My view in a nutshell: External links are not meant to tunnel people away from the wikipedia. Hence, I will remove external links on pages where I think they do not add to the page (per WP:NOT#REPOSITORY and WP:EL), or when they are added in a way that wikipedia defines as spam (understand that wikipedia defines spam as: '... wide-scale external link spamming ...', even if the link is appropriate; also read this). This may mean that I remove links, while similar links are already there or which are there already for a long time. Still, the question is not whether your link should be there, the question may be whether those other links should be there (again, see the wording of the policies and guidelines). Please consider the alternatives before re-adding the link: If the link contains information, use the information to add content to the article, and use the link as a reference (content is not 'see here for more information'). Add an appropriate linkfarm (you can consider to remove other links covered there). Incorporate the information into one of the sister projects. Add the link to other mediawiki projects aimed at advertiseing (see e.g. this) If the linkspam of a certain link perseveres, I will not hesitate to report it to the wikiproject spam for blacklisting (even if the link would be appropriate for wikipedia). It may be wise to consider the alternatives before things get to that point. The answer in a nutshell Please consider if the link you want to add complies with the policies and guidelines. If you have other questions, or still have questions on my view of the external link policy, disagree with me, or think I made a mistake in removing a link you added, please poke me by starting a new subject on my talk-page. If you absolutely want an answer, you can try to poke the people at WT:EL or WT:WPSPAM on your specific case. Also, regarding link, I can be contacted on IRC, channel . Reliable sources I convert inline URL's into references and convert referencing styles to a consistent format. My preferred style is the style provided by cite.php (<ref> and <references/>). When other mechanisms are mainly (but not consistently) used (e.g. {{ref}}/{{note}}/{{cite}}-templates) I will assess whether referencing would benefit from the cite.php-style. Feel free to revert these edits when I am wrong. Converting inline URLs in references may result in data being retrieved from unreliable sources. In these cases, the link may have been removed, and replaced by a {{cn}}. If you feel that the page should be used as a reference (complying with wp:rs!!), please discuss that on the talkpage of the page, or poke me by starting a new subject on my talk-page Note: I am working with some other developers on mediawiki to expand the possibilities of cite.php, our attempts can be followed here and here. If you like these features and want them enabled, please vote for these bugs. Stub/Importance/Notability/Expand/Expert I am in general against deletion, except when the page really gives misinformation, is clear spam or copyvio. Otherwise, these pages may need to be expanded or rewritten. For very short articles there are the different {{stub}} marks, which clearly state that the article is to be expanded. For articles that do not state why they are notable, I will add either {{importance}} or {{notability}}. In my view there is a distinct difference between these two templates, while articles carrying one of these templates may not be notable, the first template does say the article is probably notable enough, but the contents does not state that (yet). The latter provides a clear concern that the article is not notable, and should probably be {{prod}}ed or {{AfD}}ed. Removing importance-tags does not take away the backlog, it only hides from attention, deleting pages does not make the database smaller. If you contest the notability/importance of an article, please consider adding an {{expert-subject}} tag, or raise the subject on an appropriate wikiproject. Remember, there are many, many pages on the wikipedia, many need attention, so maybe we have to live with a backlog. Having said this, I generally delete the {{expand}}-template on sight. The template is in most cases superfluous, expansion is intrinsic to the wikipedia (for stubs, expansion is already mentioned in that template).

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XLinkBot

Did a few things for XLinkBot. Made {{/request|0#section_name}} for logging (modified the instructions] and created archives w/instruct. Ive posted as such in the discussion section. ;)--Hu12 (talk) 15:38, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

I saw, thanks! I hope these new functions of the bot (the on-wiki revertlist) will help to keep Misplaced Pages clean. Feel free to add to the revertlist! --Dirk Beetstra 15:40, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

More "finding aid" linkspam?

Greetings. I haven't looked at the rest of this user's contribs, just reverted the two on my watchlist, but looks like another librarian? Paige Roberts (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · blacklist hits · AbuseLog · what links to user page · count · COIBot · Spamcheck · user page logs · x-wiki · status · Edit filter search · Google · StopForumSpam) Katr67 (talk) 20:28, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I left another message for the user. Let's see if the user responds. I will add the link to the monitorlist of COIBot, just to see its use. Thanks! --Dirk Beetstra 10:10, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

COIBot Report for User Alexander Gamauf

Greetings! I am user on German Misplaced Pages, German Wiktionary and on Wikimedia Commons. I'm often listed as a possible spammer in

• Misplaced Pages:WikiProject_Spam/LinkReports/diepresse.com,
• Misplaced Pages:WikiProject_Spam/LinkReports/gutenberg.spiegel.de,
• Misplaced Pages:WikiProject_Spam/LinkReports/uni-duesseldorf.de and
• Misplaced Pages:WikiProject_Spam/LinkReports/spiegel.de.

The reason for these linkages on the German wiktionary is citing example sentences how to use a specific word. So it does'nt make sense to put those things on the watchlists. On the other hand i understand the meaning of this COIBot. Can you put me on the global Whitelist only for the Wiki projects listed above? If not please insert my user name generally. Many greetings from Vienna (Austria). - 88.117.77.253 (talk) 18:53, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for the clarification. I have globally whitelisted you, removed the links from the monitoring lists and protected against monitoring again. These are fine links which should be used (though for those users who do have a conflict of interest the bots will still report). Regeneration of these four reports is on the way (the bot has been commanded to do that, could take a bit of time until it finishes the queue), on these reports your name should have a strike-through (if I programmed everything correct ..).

Again, thanks for this note, relieves us of some work and makes the bots work faster in the end! Vriendelijke groet uit Cardiff. --Dirk Beetstra 19:16, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

help please...

Hello Beetstra.

I started a user account as a fan of a company and named myself f an cycles as the company is called motor cycles. As a result I descovered that I have made the page going into a link spam context as my name is close to the company name and I put a website link to their company website, so I changed my name to use my real name to maybe help the problem?

But I see the blacklisting of the link is present still. What shall I do to help or can you help? I did mean no harm. I also uploaded an image which is incorrect logo for them and I don't know how to take it away now.

Thank you very much if you could help.

JzoJames— Preceding unsigned comment added by JzoJames (talk • contribs)

I have removed the link from the monitor list and deleted the report. Hope this helps. --Dirk Beetstra 14:06, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you Beestra now this has helped. Much appreciated JzoJames —Preceding comment was added at 16:02, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

hi

Can a cool admin help a guy out? I want to add one sentence to the world of Misplaced Pages. But I can't. The sentence is factual, provable, reliable (I chose the New York Times version.)

Fact: Circumcision is believed to decrease a man's risk of getting HIV Fact: Circmcision is believed to INCREASE a man's risk of getting herpes and chlamydia, and some think even other STD's.

The article on "circumcision" mentions the term HIV probably 100 times (I'm not joking) and mentions "herpes" or "chlamydia" not Once.

Can a cool admin stop two guys named Avraham and Jakew (the site's dictators) from deleting my ONE sentence I want to add? Thanks here's the New York Times article... http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=9C07E4D91F3AF931A35757C0A961958260&fta=y

I used to love Misplaced Pages until I wanted to add a sentence, you know? Well, thanks. 70.114.38.167 (talk) 06:33, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

I guess this is typically something that you have to discuss on the talkpage of the page Talk:Circumcision. If consensus is reached there, then that sentence can be added. Though I think that this should be backed-up by an academic source. Hope this helps. --Dirk Beetstra 15:45, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Please, help...

Hello Beetstra,

we exchanged letters in October last year, after you (and one other editor) removed a number of external links we had put in from some artists' sites pointing to www.terminartors.com . Although we disagreed your opinion about the link being spam we instantly discontinued to put in external links. Unfortunately, if you type "www.terminartors.com" to Google the "Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Spam/LinkReports/terminartors.com..." article still appears on the first page as a hit. We would really appreciate if you helped us in this respect by deleting that article. I guess, we have now a clearer understanding about the policies on the English, lesson learned. Thank you in advance, Abenhakan. Abenhakan (talk) 21:31, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

I don't disagree that the link is not spam, it was the way you and your wife were adding the links. I think the reports do provide wikipedians who try to write an encyclopedia here with some on-hands information on how this link was used (which is available from the database anyway, and there also is an, now archived, item on Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Spam. Earlier discussions on deletion of such reports generally result in that the records are kept, and I am inclined to follow that ruling. --Dirk Beetstra 15:28, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Whitelisting

Please whitelist my user name of Historian 1000 for articles containing history or historic in the title. I was put on your spam list for a redirect of Prehistoric diet because of the name overlap. This, of course, had absolutely nothing to do with spam. Here is the link # 06:38:26, Fri Feb 01, 2008 - user:Historian 1000 (contribs; 1/1) scores 53.84% (U->P) & 46.66% (P->U) (ratio: 25.1%) on calculated overlap Historian 1000 <-> Prehistoric diet (Prehistoric diet - diff - COIBot UserReport) Also, would you remove the entry from the spam report. I remember reading that these were reviewed manually but this has seemingly not occurred in this case. --Historian 1000 (talk) 23:21, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

The bot is not only for spam, it attempts to catch edits which may be in conflict with policies or guidelines. But indeed, in your case there is nothing of that, pure accidental overlap. I have whitelisted you completely, as your username will create alerts for everything relating to history. Thanks for the remark! --Dirk Beetstra 09:42, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

whitelisting

Please provide whitelisting on www.micro-dots.org. Appears user name conflict error occured. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.231.199.184 (talk) 22:24, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Marylandartsource.com

I noticed, in the page listing links to the Hans Schuler article, that your bot recently labeled links to marylandartsource.com as "spam". That is preposterous. Marylandartsource could not be a more legitimate, noncommercial, nonprofit, public information resource. Marylandartsource.com (also .org) is a website offering public information on Maryland artists. It is maintained by and therefore carries the authority of the following institutions: the Baltimore Museum of Art; the Enoch Pratt Free Library; Johns Hopkins University; the Maryland Institute College of Art; the Maryland Historical Society; the Maryland State Department of Education; the University of Maryland, Baltimore County; and the Walters Art Museum . If your bot is labeling links to such sources as spam, maybe the code needs to be rewritten. Or maybe you could dispense with your nifty "bots" and try actually reading articles instead. MdArtLover (talk) 21:52, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Eubulides whitelist

SandyGeorgia just mentioned that I've been put on the Spam/COI list, and said it had happened to her a while back and she got whitelisted. Like SandyGeorgia, I'm editing medical pages, and apparently got put on the list because I added the following citation to two autism-related articles:

• Klin A (2006). "Autism and Asperger syndrome: an overview". Rev Bras Psiquiatr. 28 (Suppl 1): S3–11. PMID 16791390.

This article is a high-quality scientific review paper, and is referenced by Misplaced Pages because (unlike similar papers) it is freely readable. User:COIBot#Whitelist said that in cases like these I should strike out my name and notify you, so I struck out my name and am now asking: Can you please whitelist me? I imagine that if I got put on a Spam/COI list once by that robot, it'll happen to me again. Thanks. Eubulides (talk) 22:58, 19 February 2008 (UTC)