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Thanks for offering to Help

Thanks for offering to help me out. Andy moved back to Ireland a few months ago before his last fight and about 3 weeks ago announced Brian as his full-time trainer, his title fight was a nasty afair and he took some blows from the other guys head although they weren't intentinal the ref stopped it because Andy was cut by the other guy's head and he could not go on any longer with the cut being so bad. If I win a National Title could I put up my Article I know some sites of reference I could put up but I need to find them again, certian newspapers have written pieces on me and some record sites which holds my fighting records. Thanks again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by CavanABC'sAdamCullen (talk • contribs) 18:37, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

In case you missed them...

Angelo Fusco, Joe Doherty and Laurence McKeown. Pat McGeown should hopefully be bluelinked much later today as well.... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 10:24, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Excellent work. When are you doing Pat?--Vintagekits 10:27, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

About half way through his article, should be done later today. I've already found a handy image for it on FlickR. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 10:31, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

• Cracking work I have to say. Need a hand?--Vintagekits 10:33, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

I'll be all right I reckon, thanks for the offer. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 10:35, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Look at that bluelink! One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 22:14, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

What about his name in gay lick?--Vintagekits 22:18, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

If I knew it, I'd add it.... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 22:19, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Ally will tell ya I'd say - Padraig Mac an Ghabhan. --Vintagekits 23:13, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Correct, though with a fada! Pádraig Mac an Ghabhann - Alison 06:23, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 16:12, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Jackie McMullan as well, and a few more articles on the way time permitting.... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 09:03, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Comments

Please don't make nasty comments while editing. That ip traces to London anyway. Fred Bauder 16:26, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

My traceroute showed that it went through Embra. Not the first this month either - anyway point taken. regards.--Vintagekits 18:48, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Michael Gomez

Looking at the history of the editor concerned I am asuming this was vandalism. I assume no one will mind if you confirm my edit here was correct . Giano 19:28, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, Gomez was born in 1977.--Vintagekits 19:31, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

1977 it is then. Giano 19:36, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

21st of June 1977 that is!--Vintagekits 20:16, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Done! Giano 20:29, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

• Are these anon edits all correct - I see it nows says "was a boxer" is that correct? Giano 16:27, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

• That's a sockpuppet of a banned editor anyway, so I've reverted the edits. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 21:43, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

I knew that 216 was our mate Robert.--Vintagekits 00:51, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Gomez Images

Do you own the copyright to the Gomez images VK? I notice they're from his official website and seem to have been taken by a photographer from http://www.britishboxing.net/, who presumably owns the copyright? Apologies if I'm missing something. Stu 08:41, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

The images were given to me by the photographer who works with the site. I should probably get some more that arnt actually on the website to prove it.--Vintagekits 17:25, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Vk, you need to follow the instructions at Misplaced Pages:Copyright issues#Copyright owners who submitted their own work to Misplaced Pages. Those photographs are published under copyright on Gomez's page, so if they are not released by someone from that page they will be deleted from here as a copyvio. Rockpocket 17:36, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Stay off my page Rocket. If an admin (except you) wants me to forward them the email where the owner of the phots gives me that picture then I would be happy to provide that.--Vintagekits 17:39, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure he'll have actually released the copyright to you? Or is it the case that he has given you permission to use them on Misplaced Pages? If so, the copyright tag you have used is incorrect. Email him, using one of the examples at Misplaced Pages:Example requests for permission. Then follow the instructions at Misplaced Pages:Requesting copyright permission, there's a specific email address his reply has to go to. Stu 18:54, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

VK - forward them on to me if you like as I have access to OTRS permissions queue and can get it sorted for you - Alison 19:02, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

I'll do it now.--Vintagekits 19:10, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Orthodox?

Ah, now you're asking. I think, like you said, the Orthodox stance article is the better of the two, and we only need one article.

Brain Rodeo has a point that there's likely more can be said about karate and what have you, but it seems like it might as well be all in one place, which means Orthodox stance again. Only if it got too big would there be a reason to split it up. If there are sections on different fighting sports, then I think you can make a redirect so that Orthodox (boxing) goes to the "Boxing" section and Orthodox (karate) to the karate section. I made one for the film at Orthodox Stance (film) and if you click on it, it seems to go to the right bit. So, I agree with you that it's better having this all at the one place.

Cheers, Angus McLellan (Talk) 21:33, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

P.S. Hope you're well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Angusmclellan (talk • contribs) 21:34, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm grand. Thanks for the reply - I really just wanted reassurance that I wasnt being unreasonable and just backing the "stance" article because I created it. Maybe I will post something on the boxing project page with a link to the discussion of the Talk:Orthodox stance page. Maybe you could copy your response here on that discussion also. regards. --Vintagekits 21:42, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Lifer?

Hiya Vk. How you holding up? How much longer can they keep you in the cage? I must say your restraint is AWESOME. I know I couldn't do it! Very best as always (Sarah777 21:45, 28 October 2007 (UTC))

Get with the programme Sarah!! I've been free for a week! Get it!!--Vintagekits 21:52, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

The champagne don't taste too good no more :( And archive all the evidence please, this page is browser intensive! One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 21:55, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Jeez I went through that vast page looking for the release notice!!(Sarah777 22:07, 28 October 2007 (UTC))

here ya go - Rockpocket was fuming over it but hey thats not my problem.--Vintagekits 22:13, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Never spotted it was closed; obviously a watchlist of 2,000 isn't big enough. I like this one "Reversion of edits by anonymous IPs do not count as a revert" - Arbcom. That I can work with as certain strands of opinion are very prone to anonymous IP abuse and I'm not just talking about myself:) They know who they are. (Sarah777 22:42, 28 October 2007 (UTC))

Just for the record, in case you think I'm totally stupid/asleep, some of us have been studiously not noticing certain ... activities ... over the last while. Just so's you know! - Alison 00:58, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Why am I doing something that I should or shouldnt be doing?--Vintagekits 01:02, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Dunno. Maybe she is talking about me? (Sarah777 01:20, 29 October 2007 (UTC))

Look what I found One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 01:26, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

It's because the ArbCom hasn't QUITE closed yet, they're still mucking about with the wording for the probation (Yes, there's motions to close but it hasn't formally closed yet).. It's close enough that I can scale back my WP time for the next lil bit. That's what Alison was mentioning, VK, that per the agreement you weren't supposed to be editing elsewhere till it closes.., but I think everyone involved thinks that the ArbCom's been hanging on so long that there's no real harm about enacting your freedom a bit early and not being anal about it. :) SirFozzie 01:39, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Zackly, Foz. Myself and VK had an agreement re. his unblocking which he'd been very careful to keep until maybe a week or so back. It still stands but he's ignoring it now, which is a pity but there ya go. It's not worth blocking about at this stage & it's not something I'll be doing, though I very much could. He knows where he stands - Alison 02:00, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/The Troubles Closed

Here's a copy of the post I made to AN as the case clerk:

The above named Arbitration case has closed. The Arbitration Committee decided that ny user who hereafter engages in edit-warring or disruptive editing on these or related articles may be placed on Misplaced Pages:Probation by any uninvolved administrator. This may include any user who was a party to this case, or any other user after a warning has been given. The Committee also decided to uplift Vintagekits' indefinite block at the same time.

Due to the decisions, you are now no longer community banned. Make this chance count. - Penwhale | 08:32, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations, VK! You're officially released :) Now you can go ahead and edit anything you like .... oh, wait! :) - Alison 10:18, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I give him a week, anyone taking bets? One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 11:26, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Aye, cheers!!--Vintagekits 18:41, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm assuming good faith, so my bets are on Vk staying out of trouble. I'm not so sure that all those covered in the decision will start out of trouble, and this discussion suggests that some folks may not have fully grasped that The Old Ways are no longer acceptable. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:35, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I meant to say: good luck Vk. I really do want this to work for you. ---BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:37, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I think he's going to be okay and will keep out of trouble. See how things go. I'm certainly not out to block him or anything. However, now that the arb case is over, all the other POV-warriors had better take note of the conditions of probation. And yes, ugh re. that conversation, BHG. It doesn't bode well, does it? - Alison 15:43, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Hmmmmm.... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 16:25, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Nice new word there: athiest presumably means the person most closely associated with Athy. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:59, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I have no problems with BC and AD, but some entire cultures do, perhaps they are the "scum" referred to here I don't think VK at his most virulent ever managed to insult a couple of continents in one edit. Giano 21:16, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Flag of Northern Ireland

Setanta, Padraig, VK: I have protected the above article to prevent another edit-war. Given the ArbCom ruling, this really would not be a a good idea. Use the talk page, please. ELIMINATORJR 00:45, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Not sure what this has to do with me!--Vintagekits 18:35, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Freedom....for now!

Vintagekits

4) The indefinite community ban on Vintagekits (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · block user · block log) is lifted and he may edit normally subject to the terms of probation as defined in the enforcement ruling below.

   Passed 5-0 at 08:08, 30 October 2007 (UTC) 

Congrats; don't blow is carelessly - many of us are walking a tightrope to combat insidious POV which unfortunately seems invisible to much of the Anglophone world. All the more reason to be careful, especially in any conduct that could be interpreted as threatening. Take care - and if I get blocked you can visit me and quote my advice back to me! (Sarah777 02:17, 1 November 2007 (UTC))

It's great to check my watch list and see your name popping up. --Domer48 15:44, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

• Great to see Gomez being improved. You'll be OK. Giano 15:49, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

World Amateur Boxing Championships

I object to your allegation that I made a "weasel insertion" with a good faith edit. I replaced the Northern Ireland flag image on that article, which I presumed editors like you would agree with. I am surpised that you are involved in NI flag related editing so soon after your ban was overturned. Please watch your edit summaries, and please assume good faith. Andrwsc 00:15, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

I'll make you a deal - I'll watch me edit summaries and you watch your weaseling of the Union Jack into article to represent the occupied six! deal??--Vintagekits 00:26, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Huh? I'm just trying to make that article consistent. In every case — except for Belfast before my edit — the flag shown was the top-level flag for the sovereign nation. The flag of the Socialist Republic of Serbia was not used for 1978 Belgrade. The flag of Nevada was not used for 1986 Reno. The flag of New South Wales was not used for 1991 Sydney. Why then is it inappropriate for me to change this:

• Belfast, Northern Ireland

to this:

• Belfast, United Kingdom

I don't understand your complaint with my edit. Andrwsc 00:45, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

When it comes to Northern Ireland, flags are a major contentious issue and had a large part to play in the recent ArbCom case, see Northern Ireland flags issue. There's also the matter of flagcruft. The way you have it now, with no flags, is an improvement, IMO - Alison 00:53, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I know all that. I'm involved in the current mediation, and I've contributed to the "flagcruft" discussion many times. But I thought that the anti-UB folks were in favor of the Union Jack as the only legal flag to represent NI. For example, back in May, I was pestered by those editors into adding the union variant to Template:Country data Northern Ireland so that you could use {{flag|Northern Ireland|union}} to render  Northern Ireland. Therefore, I remain puzzled why my edit (as described above) is problematic. Andrwsc 01:00, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I understand your frustration. It's often the case, though, that any flag associated in any way with NI is going to be problematic. Best off with none - Alison 01:04, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Boxers from Belfast fight under the Irish tricolor - just like I dont object to the Ulster banner being used to denote footballers who play for Northern Ireland and the Northern Ireland football team then the Irish tricolor should be used but boxing articles as they fight on an All Ireland basis and box under the Irish tricolor.--Vintagekits 13:42, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

This comment is a non sequitur. In that table, the flag was not associated with boxers from Belfast. It was used to identify the location of the 2001 World Amateur Boxing Championships, an event that included boxers from 67 different countries. So let me ask again — what is your objection to using the Union Flag associated with the location of Belfast, similar to the (previous) remainder of that table, where the national flag of each host city was used? Andrwsc 18:27, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

1. Because neither flag is the flag of Northern Ireland - its like saying that the swastika is the flag of Germany. 2. The games were awarded to and organised by the AIBA who fight under the Irish tricolor.--Vintagekits 18:32, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

The obsessed admin

Just a word of clarification, VK. An "involved admin" was clarified as meaning an admin that is involved in the substantial dispute; ie, they were directly involved in the editing of the page in question. Just so's you know - Alison 01:51, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Alison, I cant stand that man, he is not welcome here and has no business here - he is half the reason that all this mess started in the first place with his power trip - he is just raging that he didnt get me banned - the guy is obsessed and only comes on here to provoke. He is an "involved admin" - I hate him, he hates me - we couldnt get less involved! Dont worry I wont lose the rag with him, he's not worth it - please just go over to his talk page and tell him stay of me talk page or I will be making a formal complaint.--Vintagekits 01:58, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

I think it would be very wise if the pair of you made a point of avoiding each other. I suggest Rockpocket takes VK of his watch list and vice versa. There are many admins and Arbs watching VK so Rockpocket can truly can relax on that score. Giano 02:24, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

This is exactly what I havew been saying for over a month - its an easy solution and he is obviously just trying to provoke a situation in a hope that I will react.--Vintagekits 10:30, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Vk, PLEASE stay off Rock's page (even though he isn't objecting). Let's see if we can persuade him to recuse himself from enforcing the Arbcom - but abusing him (or retaliating, whatever) on his page ain't helping you. Let's be cynical for a mo; you think he welcomes you on his page 'cos he likes reading your opinion of him???? T-H-I-N-K.(Sarah777 02:37, 4 November 2007 (UTC))

I wont be posting there again and wont be replying to his messege here either or his provoking emails.--Vintagekits 10:30, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Warning

I totally endorse Rockpocket's warning, which was extremely lenient. I think you should have received a block. He is doing a good job of attending to the ArbCom ruling and has every right to post on this page. Kindly stop telling him not to. Kindly stop making personal attacks and accusations against him or I will block you for harassment. Tyrenius 12:57, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Wait a minute Ty, I wasnt even aware that the terms on the probation had been agreed - the first I heard of it was this morning when another editor emailed me and informed me. I will not back away from confronting his twisted and bitter agenda when needed.--Vintagekits 12:59, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

P.S. he hasnt every right to post here and EVERY time he does it will be immediately deleted.--Vintagekits 13:01, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

I suggest you read the ArbCom ruling very carefully. There's no excuses for not being aware of it. You don't actually own this page, and if any admin (or other editor for that matter) needs to bring something to your attention, then they do have the right to post here. Tyrenius 22:38, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

You have been blocked from editing for violating Misplaced Pages policy, by personal attacks. If you believe this block is unjustified you may contest this block by replying here on your talk page by adding the text {{unblock|your reason here}}. You may also email the blocking administrator or any administrator from this list instead, or mail unblock-en-l@mail.wikimedia.org. I warned you above to stop making attacks on User:Rockpocket. You replied and immediately made another one, above, disparaging him. This block is for 24 hours. If you continue to attack him or any other editor, the block will be increased. Note to any reviewing admin: see previous conversation at User_talk:Rockpocket#Get_off_and_stay_off_my_talk_page. Vintagekits is currently under ArbCom probation. This block has been logged at Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/The_Troubles#Log_of_blocks.2C_bans.2C_and_probations Tyrenius 22:38, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

How is that a personal attack? Am I afforded no rights on this talk page, am I not allowed to try and avoid people who in my opinion come here to undermine and provoke me? This is a farce - there was no problem what so ever until Rockpocket came to this talk page to create one, he has successfully done that and his mission is complete. Why cant I just be left alone by the likes of him to get on with editing?--Vintagekits 22:42, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

TELL ME WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS???????????????????????????? - He can tell me not to contact him but I cant ask HIS mate not to contact me or else I am blocked!! Kinda slanted against me dont you think. I have caused no problems whatsoever - Rockpocket has created one.--Vintagekits 22:53, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

{{unblock|this block is simple incredible. I have asked Rockpocket not to post on my talk page in excess of 10 times because I believe as do many others that he only comes here to provoke an incident and to get a reaction from me. I have just survived an Arbcom and want ot stay away from editors with whom I come into conflict. Rockpocket was the main editor that attempt to get me indefinately blocked during the Arbcom for that reason I would prefer not to deal with him because of his agenda to get me blocked. Despite this he has continued on a number of occasions to post of this talk page and to send me emails. All I want is to be left in peace and to edit article (a fact you can see from my edit history). So I go a asked Rockpocket politely to stop posting here and leave me alone, which is not uncommon, infact I am "banned" from a number of editors talkpages infact only today User:John today said not to contact him. It makes no sense, I have not made an personal attack.--Vintagekits 23:18, 4 November 2007 (UTC)}}.

Y	Your request to be unblocked has been granted for the following reason(s): below per Alison and Newyorkbrad — Rlevse • Talk • 00:47, 5 November 2007 (UTC) Request handled by: — Rlevse • Talk • 00:47, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm not going to unblock due to my involvement in this whole case but I'd like to state that I do not endorse this latest block. VK has been doing his best to keep away from RP and not get involved. I've been watching VK's edits since the ArbCom ended and he's been fine up 'till now. This block does nothing to prevent disruption and will only serve to inflame an already tense situation - Alison 23:37, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Would anybody mind a passing-by outsider, commenting? I thought an editor was allowed to remove anybodies postings on his/her personal page (unless it was an Administrators warnings).GoodDay 00:04, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Per WP:TALK, anyone can remove pretty-much anything from their talk page, including administrators' warnings; "On your own user talk page, you may remove comments from others, although archiving is generally preferred and removing comments without any reason is generally regarded as uncivil.". In this case, it was an admin's warning but VK is still within his rights to do so - Alison 00:30, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

The objection was not to the removal of the warning, but to his abusive language towards Rockpocket. I have posted on AN/I. Tyrenius 22:47, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

I will not act on the unblock request as I was a clerk in the arbitration case, but I am not convinced that this block is necessary. Irrespective of the outcome of this block, I would further urge that administrators who were heavily involved in the earlier disputes, such as Rockpocket, not participate in enforcing the remedies against Vintagekits. This is not meant in any way as a reflection on Rockpocket's administrator actions or impartiality, but a suggestion intended to minimize assertions of unfairness or the appearance of the potential for unfairness. I've posted at ANI requesting that this block be reviewed and will also alert the blocking administrator. Newyorkbrad 00:33, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

• As another admin who keeps an eye on these articles, I concur that unblocking was probably correct in this instance, though VK does need to be really careful in his dealings with other editors. ELIMINATORJR 00:51, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

VK: To clarify the ruling as I understand it: You're under 1RR limit regarind any article that is related to the Troubles as well as the Ulster banner and British baronets articles. The edits to World Amateur Boxing Championships, even though the article isn't related to the Arbitration case, your edits here and here are related to it. Despite the fact that the decision doesn't exactly clarify edits like this, administrators can say that you're reverting on the grounds related to the ArbCom case. You need to watch out very carefully of what you're reverting. - Penwhale | 06:56, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Irish names

Hi, I've stared a discussion on the provision of Irish names in biography articles on the new Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Ireland/Gaeilge project page and would appreciate your views on the matter. Beir Bua!--Damac 21:11, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Nah probs, cheers for the invite.--Vintagekits 21:12, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Patrizio

Boxing_at_the_1980_Summer_Olympics#Light_Welterweight_.28.E2.80.93_63.5_kg.29

Nice work on Pat. Giano 23:21, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Cheers, pity it was cut short tonight.--Vintagekits 23:22, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

He has been waiting to be improved for a long time, he will still be there tomorrow. Giano 23:28, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

I suppose yer right - Forza Patrizio!!--Vintagekits 23:35, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Seems it's Patrizio's lucky day! There is some good ref info here and babelfish it, or ask me if it comes out gobbledegook, and there is some good background to the problems here .I'm a little pressed for time to work on him myself at the moment but ask if you want some advice or term explaining. Giano 11:14, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

UK devolution

I am curious if you created that UK devolution userbox on your userpage, or if you found it elsewhere? Either way, I'd like to put one on my userpage as well. Hell, devolution is just the beginning. Cheers! ---RepublicanJacobite_{The'FortyFive'} 01:18, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

I am sure I just robbed it somewhere, I denifately didnt create it. Crack on if ya wanna use it.--Vintagekits 20:26, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

The "campaign for English independence", as the Troubles is sometimes called :) One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 20:29, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Mibbeees a devolve regional government for the saucers.--Vintagekits 20:34, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

You robbed it from me who got it from {{User:Keithgreer/User Devolution}} of course I had to modify it slightly I didnt like the original that much. --Barryob Vigeur de dessus 20:37, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, see there, I started a discussion and then forgot about it. Well, I will be stealing that for my own userpage, with thanks! ---RepublicanJacobite_{The'FortyFive'} 15:43, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Talkpage comments

I have posted above and on ANI regarding the block that occurred today, which I see has been undone. However, I think it would be in the spirit of the arbitration ruling if you were to remove the legend "This is a Rockpocket ... free zone" from the top of your talkpage immediately. Newyorkbrad 02:45, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

VK, I've removed it. PLEASE, let's take a step back on this one, it's not helpful. Trust me on this? SirFozzie 14:10, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Both NYB and Fozz are correct on this one VK. It is time for everyone to bury this and move on. Giano 14:14, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Grand, i'll do that. thanks for the advice.--Vintagekits 21:04, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, VK. Much Appreciated SirFozzie 22:03, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Irish Amateur Boxing Association

Hey, since we had to speedy delete that article because of blatant copyright infringement, might I suggest that you re-create it the "right way"? It would seem to be a perfect article for you to work on! Cheers, Andrwsc 18:19, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Wow - I was just doing it when you sent this. I'll improve it later.--Vintagekits 18:21, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Mentoring

Hey there VK. As you may have noticed, the whole idea of mentorship came up on ANI again there yesterday. Giano made the suggestion that a mentor might be a good idea and I agree. Not me this time, okay? :) Would you be up to the idea in principle if we worked on trying to get a totally uninvolved, non-Irish admin to work with you on things? I think it might work out well for everyone.

What do you think? - Alison 18:29, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Might I suggest non-British as well as non-Irish? Best to avoid any problems, though I've little doubt many, if not all, of our British admins are fair. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 18:33, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

I wouldnt say no - maybe someone that doesnt know his (gender non-specific!) sash from his shamrock - clean pair of eyes and all that.--Vintagekits 18:34, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Geez - it suddenly dawned on me that I have the orangest signature on the planet. LOL!! Ok - I have a few ideas here. Let me work on it and I'll get back to you. ONiH - yeah, good point, too. I know a British admin who'd be awesome here but better give that one a miss - Alison 18:38, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

I would suggest someone in Europe though, I think one of my many faults in attempting to mentor VK was the time difference involved. SirFozzie 18:44, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes you do Alyson it looks like a badly fried egg. Lar is my choice but he in in USA but seems to be online a lot, in Britain is Charles Matthews suitable I wonder, I don't know him, but as bodyguards go, he seems suitable. Shall we pounce on him together while he is unsuspecting Giano 19:07, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm good with either of these, yep. I'd one particular admin in mind, though, but having discussed the matter with him in detail (on irc!) something has come up and he's unable to accept - Alison 21:06, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Returned?

Welcome back a chara! Good to have you back on board. :)GiollaUidir 21:25, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Cheers bud!--Vintagekits 21:37, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

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Anyone know why this image now doesnt comply?--Vintagekits 20:33, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Looks like it falls under this guideline, VK.. (c) The name of each article in which fair use is claimed for the item, and a separate fair-use rationale for each use of the item, as explained at Misplaced Pages:Non-free use rationale guideline. The rationale is presented in clear, plain language, and is relevant to each use. SirFozzie 20:35, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, it's the anal bit that means you lead a link to the article it's fair use in. It could use a detailed fair use rationale as well. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 20:37, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

TO be honest I dont understand that - can/will one of you guys please sort it out??--Vintagekits 20:29, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

I'll work on this one. Editing now ... - Alison 20:53, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

There! How's that look? - Alison 21:04, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Nice one!--Vintagekits 21:17, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Its nice for someone to be nice to me! Everyone else has been horrible and removed my contributions. But thanks for your notice. I would be glad to joint it! Princess Pea Face 19:57, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Your recent edits

Regarding your recent edits to this thread rather than worrying about such topics I suggest you don't comment but keep a list of diffs which you feel relevant to infringements of the ruling of the Arbcom. When you have sufficient to make a cast-iron case then present them on the relevant Arbcom page explaining your findings and why you feel sanctions need to be imposed. Regarding AFDs on baronets if the pages are so dreadful they will be deleted without input from you. I know you have a perfect right to vote on AFDs but please consider that sometimes others misinterpret your views on these subjects. Please do not give them the opportunity to make allegations and snide comments against you. Remember the old adage about giving people enough rope, and a final piece of advice I have been arownd Misplaced Pages long enough to spot the instant arrival of trouble. I suggests you pick your new friends very carefully.Giano 11:28, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Your right of course. --Vintagekits 20:30, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

I always am. Giano 20:58, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

*coffs* Indeed:-b. Giano, can you poss. email me please on the mentor thing? - Alison 21:05, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

If you need me my wiki-mail is working, but I think we have said it all on wiki. This is something VK has to want and agree to before anyone wastes any time on it. Giano 22:29, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Please don't.

Please don't troll other users, admins or not. Your reputation is not the cleanest and people are looking for excuses to boot you, it might be better not to actually hand it to them on a plate. Guy (Help!) 22:18, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi Guy, who am I trolling? - if I did I certainly didnt mean to. Please explain and I will avoid them. cheers--Vintagekits 22:20, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

• Sorry, wires crossed. As you were :o) I was sorting out a bit of a mess and hit tab once too often... Guy (Help!) 22:23, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Grand, you had me worried there for a minute!--Vintagekits 22:25, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

I'd better run away - the two of us agreeing on something, must be a first. Guy (Help!) 22:48, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

A silly category name, but the culprit has been caught

You were right, but I have identified the culprit, and I hope that it can be sorted out with a CfR nomination.  ;) --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:30, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

King's Hall

Is there a problem with my move of King's Hall, Belfast? Were you aware that there are other King's Halls with articles on Misplaced Pages when you created it? I'm at present trying to sort out the links and redirects to them so they go to the correct ones. Any suggestions at improving Misplaced Pages are welcome. -- MightyWarrior 23:21, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

I was aware of the other article hence the reason I created the disamb page. I am not necessarily disagreeing with the move (especially as it was already a redirect that I created to the original) what I am saying is that you should have discussed it first. Fiiiight!!!--Vintagekits 23:25, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Sligo Jail

Hi, Vk, Nice article, well done. I especially like the reference to the Cranmore Hotel :oP The.Q 16:26, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Well it had that nickname before the estate was built! Infact I am going to create articles for Maugheraboy, Cartron and Cranmore.--Vintagekits 18:45, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Limerick Jail too? One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 19:07, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

What about Stab City Gaol??--Vintagekits 22:19, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Erm.....where? By the way, seen my promised Provo? One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 22:27, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Stab city!. Yeah saw your new article - usually badly sourced pish! ;) --Vintagekits 22:37, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Nice, balanced piece of reporting there, as you'd expect from that fine newspaper! --The.Q 10:54, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

If you go down to the woods today, your sure of a big surprise!

Thanks

Thanks for your magnanimous message and sorry for the delay in responding. I have no objection to your unblock request, which you are quite entitled to make of course, and, as it happens, was seen as justified by another admin. I hope it has at least served to move matters on and get some clarification. I wish you well for future editing. I don't anticipate involvement in The Troubles in future. Tyrenius 20:31, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

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fire alarms and west of ireland weddings

Good to hear you enjoyed yourself - do they still server keppers for breakfast? --sony-youth 11:19, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

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• Can someone sort this?--Vintagekits (talk) 20:20, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Hey VK, this is what I saw on the page:

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So all you have to do is place a link to the article that it's used on, and the fair use rationale provided (ie, what qualifies it to be "fair use"), and its all set. Hope this helped. SirFozzie (talk) 20:31, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

 Done - how's that look? - Alison 21:46, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Re: Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Celtic F.C. Songs

Sure, you can find it at User:Vintagekits/Celtic F.C. Songs. Good luck :) Spellcast (talk) 14:46, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Yep, it's the same state as the last version but without the {{unreferenced}}, {{tone}}, and {{orphan}} tags. Spellcast (talk) 15:00, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Astrotrain

Theres no pleasing some people, is there.--Padraig 01:05, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

I know - what is the point - tbf you've buried him with the references you have provided and I believe that this sort of childishness is all he has left. pretty sad stateof affairs.--Vintagekits 01:22, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

James Arbuthnot

(bringing it here as there's no point having it on Rockpocket's page)
I (sort of) agree about the references - although realistically it's not a disaster if they don't exist on an article like this. Since the article doesn't really say anything except who he is, the bunch of external links do serve to verify the facts in the article. (I note yet another link to Kitty's site has crept in, but don'tpropose removing it since it'll just spark off another edit war.) — iridescent 21:26, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Fair enough, I will tell ya what I will to in order to keep the peace, I will leave the article and come back to it in a week and hopefully Kb will have referenced it properly by then. Cool!?--Vintagekits 21:30, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

If I may suggest, you and KB ought to know better. I suggest that discussing it on talk:James Arbuthnot may be a good approach? ++Lar: t/c 23:26, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

I would have been only to happy to talk it out in a rational manner on the talk page but Kb only wanted to run to Rockpocket - a bit childish I thought - however, to avoid conflict I am stepping away from the article completely for a week. I will be back then and I am sure something could be sorted out.--Vintagekits 23:36, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Stepping away seems a good idea. I think you both may have blind spots w.r.t. the other? Best wishes. ++Lar: t/c 00:07, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

You may be right about the blind spot, howeve, post Arbcom I thought that we would all be trying approach each other in a different manner. Kb didnt even try and engage before run to admins, pity.--Vintagekits 10:51, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

That's as may be, but I guess I'll trot out my stock advice. Be the best you can be, without regard to what others do, even if you are sure in your heart of hearts they are trying to provoke you. Easy advice to give, hard advice to take. I should know because I often have a hard time taking it myself. But there you are. I think the idea proposed on the talk page of James A. is a good one... Hope that helps, happy editing. ++Lar: t/c 11:43, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Positive and wiki friendly contributor

Vk, may I say how much I admire your reformation. You are a shining example to us all, even me, and I'm half-thinking of trying to emulate you. Who knows? This time next year you could be going for an Arbcom slot and if I'm still here I'll be your campaign director. No foal, no fee.

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Giano

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Yayy!!

Empty talk page again!! :) - Alison 18:25, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Fleadh

Fair enough, but there is no page for London Fleadh. Furthermore, the London event is commonly referred to simply as "Fleadh" and posters and flyers for the event also use the one-word title. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lordslackarse (talk • contribs) 13:15, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes, there is no article for London Fleadh - but that is easily sorted by copying and pasting what you wrote in the Fleadh article and having the Fleadh as a redirect to FCnahE. I am sure that many people refer to the LF purely as "the Fleadh" - but that doesnt make the most common us of the term "Fleadh" being in relation to the LF. Everyone calls their local Fleadh - "the Fleadh" but what I am saying and I think a google search of term will show is that the most use of the term is in relation to FCnahE. regards--Vintagekits (talk) 13:22, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Irish names 2

V, I'd appreciate your views on Irish names here. Please note that I'm someone who takes the Irish language very seriously, and have spent three hours of my time today teaching it to six foreigners. That Hogan Stand page does NOT produce the correct form of my name or the names of many other surnames I can think of. It is NOT a definitive source for Irish names. Please assume good faith here and accept the concerns of an active Gaeilgeoir in this matter. An bhfuil aon Gaeilge agatsa?--Damac (talk) 00:38, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

I've a wee bit but I dont doubt that your Irish is a lot better than mine. I will get involved in the discussion but I'm off ta now a chara. oiche mhaith.--Vintagekits (talk) 00:40, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

I think your revert was a bit rash. I've already requested your views on the matter. I've laid out clearly what the problem with these names are, and you can read these at Talk:Raymond_McCartney#Irish_name.--Damac (talk) 17:01, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Baronets

• Well done on your recent multiple renaming of baronets! Purely out of concern for the Misplaced Pages project, of course! Merry Christmas! --Counter-revolutionary (talk) 12:25, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Nollaig Shona

Boxing

This may interest you.--Padraig (talk) 18:44, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Cheers P, this is he. I'll add more info later - cheers mate.--Vintagekits (talk) 11:27, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Brian Magee and Damaen Kelly

They are both born in Northern Ireland and live in Belfast, so, there's no reason to change the flag from NIR to IRE in the list of IBO world boxing champions. claudevsq (talk) 12:18, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I had a lot to do, but I scooped in at the article and couldn't find anything of being free to change one's nationality, but I didn't read the whole article, so if you wanna change these flags, just go ahead, but be aware that ANYBODY could revert it anytime... Me personally, I think there should be the Northern Ireland flag... Have a nice day! claudevsq (talk) 15:59, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

There is NO flag of Northern Ireland. BigDunc (talk) 16:03, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

talkpage message

I deleted your message because I had read it - I don't keep archives. --Fredrick day (talk) 16:04, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Doon GAA

Thanks for adding those categories - I didn't know about them, having come across the page as a rescue case at new page patrol. As a sympathetic but ignorant Englishman I think I've done as much here as I can, and have asked the original editor if s/he can add any further detail. Kim Dent-Brown 13:16, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Peadar Clancy

Hi Vin, could you have a look over the article, let us know what you think? First real one in the bag, will start Conor Clune next I think. --Domer48 (talk) 21:25, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Flag of Northern Ireland

Talk page, please .... I've protected it for 24 hours to stop any sort of editwar breaking out. BLACKKITE 19:51, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Sean O'Callaghan

Hello Vk. Regarding this section; it will likely be removed again unless, at the very least, the current third party sourced are referenced inline and the quotes attributed to reliable sources. Even then is debatable whether this should be in there per WP:NPF. The so-called "gay bar controversy" was essentially the defense of defendant later found guilty (suggesting the defense wasn't accepted by the legal system). Of the sources provided, one notes "the defence suddenly came up with the gay-bondage story ... the jury found the allegation hilarious and took 20 minutes to declare Samhan guilty," the other is the not very reliable sounding Life Style Extra. Do you really consider this appropriate per WP:BLP? Rockpocket 09:15, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I have added a reference to this.--Padraig (talk) 09:45, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm still not convinced this is entirely appropriate, especially the heading "gay bar controversy" considering he was the victim of a crime and the "controversy" was generated by the dismissed defense of the perpetrator. It seems a bit WP:UNDUE. Still, since its now sourced I'll leave it and see if there is any other comments forthcoming. Rockpocket 19:51, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I would say it is very notable especially seeing hows house it took place in.--Vintagekits (talk) 19:53, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm not suggesting the incident isn't notable, just the focusing on the salacious details (the fact that he visited a gay bar and there was an unreliable suggestion from the defense that he was involved in bondage) seems a little undue, considering his notability is nothing to do with his sexuality. As Jimbo says, "real people are involved, and they can be hurt by your words. We are not tabloid journalism, we are an encyclopedia." Rockpocket 19:59, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Found that link...

Tom MacSharry. :) The show was in 2001. --The.Q 15:05, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

WILLIAM MACKEY LOMASNEY

FYI, I have deleted the redirect you created from WILLIAM MACKEY LOMASNEY to William Mackey Lomasney because it is redundant. A search with all (or any combination of) caps automatically redirects when the lead letter of each word is a capital. See here. Rockpocket 03:27, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Stop fuckin stalkin me!--Vintagekits (talk) 08:52, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Vk, I have been nothing but polite and constructive with my comments to you. I have gone out of my way to explain to you why I have made an edit that effects one of yours so not to lead to misunderstandings. If you are not able to accept that other editors will correct your good faith mistakes, poor spelling or grammar, without responding in an aggressive and incivil manner, then I suggest you say nothing at all. You might also wish to have a read of WP:STALK: "proper use of an editor's history includes (but is not limited to) fixing errors or violations of Misplaced Pages policy, or correcting related problems on multiple articles ... in fact, such practices are recommended. Rockpocket 18:06, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

You've done nothing but stalk my every move for months now and its begining to piss me off - which I know is your aim. There are millions of articles but you seem to turn up minutes after I ever edit one!--Vintagekits (talk) 20:14, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

A lot of IR articles are now on my watch list due to the category structure I oversaw. When something appears on my watch list, that requires some serious copy-editing (such as this) then I do it. Then I check what related articles have also been edited in such a manner and clean those up too. Its not only you that I find myself occasionally copy editing for, yet it is only you that appears to have a problem with it. I'm sorry if "its begining (sic) to piss off ", but there is two solutions to this: either learn to live with the fact that any other editor, not of your choosing, is encouraged to correct your mistakes, or else copy edit articles for acceptable spelling and grammar yourself before you write them. If I was "stalking" you (and I would ask you to read the article I directed you to and, once you do that, stop making unfounded allegations) then I would follow you to your boxing articles. I don't. So please stop trying to stir up troubles where none exists. Rockpocket 21:10, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Before this goes any further, guys, can both of you cool off here for a minute? Rockpocket - you know how VK feels about you. Probably best off giving him a little breathing space here, hm? VK -> WP:AGF and all that - Alison 21:14, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Grand.--Vintagekits (talk) 10:20, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Benbulben photo

Like the photo. Looks to have been taken from a height (on the hill, I presume)? Were you on the roof of Markievicz House or something? --The.Q 10:26, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Yeah it's on the Hill alright. I'm standing about 50m from the "ancestral home" on that spot.--Vintagekits (talk) 13:06, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Referencing

I see you got an answer. A slightly different format not using the cite template layout (which I find awkward) is at Misplaced Pages:REFB#References_not_online. Link to the page with WP:REFB or post on user or article talk pages with {{subst:refstart}} for users that need some basic guidance. Tyrenius (talk) 00:47, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Polite request

Such wit!

1. 17:01, 24 January 2008 (hist) (diff) John Stalker‎ (the I R A) (top)
2. 17:00, 24 January 2008 (hist) (diff) A‎ (a) (top)
3. 16:59, 24 January 2008 (hist) (diff) R‎ (r) (top)
4. 16:59, 24 January 2008 (hist) (diff) Ewe‎ (Ewe) (top)
5. 16:58, 24 January 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:Rockpocket‎ (→Gerry O'Callaghan‎ - r)

Perhaps, instead of playing such games, you would like to open a RfC or go to AN/I and put your allegations to the community. If not, I would formally request that you stop making personal attacks by referring to me as a "stalker" at every opportunity you get. WP:STALK should make very clear why this is unfounded. I will not ask again. Rockpocket 01:28, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

From WP:STALK - "Wikistalking refers to the act of following an editor to another article to continue disruption." - this is exactly what you are doing.

And again "The term "wiki-stalking" has been coined to describe following a contributor around the wiki, editing the same articles as the target, with the intent of causing annoyance or distress to another contributor." - fuckin right you are!

By following me around you are provoking me with the intention of causing a distrubance and to get a reaction from me - you have been told a thousand fuckin times to stay away but you keep HARRASSING me - EWE R A STALKER because you are stalking me!

Is your adminship up for recall?--Vintagekits (talk) 11:16, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

And that's the uncivil part I was talking about, VK. *sighs* SirFozzie (talk) 01:31, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

VK, as folks have said, you are a cracking editor when you put your nose to it. this was brought to my attention by BK, and a block was discussed. I know it's "funnier" to accuse someone via such an indirect way, but really, man. Remember, the Encyclopedia??? What we're all here to write? You have to work with people you disagree with (look what happened to me, for pete's sake.. someone took offense to the fact I post to a WP-criticism site where quite a few banned editors post, and attempted to have me relinquish my admin rights!) Cut it out, ok? I know it's frustrating to you, but if you can't stop from exploding at certain editors, I've done what I can, man. I'm at my limits, here too. SirFozzie (talk) 01:51, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

He is a fuckin stalker - he stalks my edits so as to wind me up hoping I will lose my patience with him and then he can get me blocked - BINGO! Mission completed - Agent Stalker return to base!--Vintagekits (talk) 09:10, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Give it a rest, please

this isn't particularly constructive (and I think Sir F isn't impressed either), believe it or not some of us admins are trying to work with both sides of a particularly awkward situation. You're a cracking editor when you don't get yourself involved in this sort of thing, so just don't get yourself blocked again. BLACKKITE 01:42, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

The guy knows I am on probation and know he can push me around and push all my buttons and get away with it - he can fuck right off if he think I am going to be a bitch for him. I was happily editing article for a couple of month with ZERO hassle but he keeps have a bite at me every day. We have both been told to stay away from each other and I was happy to do that because I know he just winds me up but he cant stay away from me - ever article I edit he will be straight in there after me. It's blatant bullying and no one is sayign a word about that - easier just to block me!--Vintagekits (talk) 09:14, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Blocked 24/1/08

I have blocked you for 24 hours for violation of your 1 Revert/week probation on article Seamus Donnelly‎. Please understand, VK, I have to do this. That was the terms of your indefblock being lifted. Please, when you get back, let's cut this stuff out, k? SirFozzie (talk) 02:00, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

I'll cut it out if the Rocket promises not to hound me on every article.--Vintagekits (talk) 09:15, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Fozzie, dont worry about the block - technically I breach the one revert - even if the Rocket had been informed that the AfD were invalid before I reverted them.--Vintagekits (talk) 09:41, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Redirect/Renaming of Markievicz Park to Markiewicz Park

You may be interested in this. --The.Q 16:49, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Cool it

Vk; no point getting het up about Rockocket. Don't think you two will ever be best mates! Cool down, take a deep breath and watch me get picked-on by the Mr Waggers and his pals:) Sarah777 (talk) 20:15, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Patricia Mac Bride

Thanks - I made the same typo when asking ONiH about her earlier, but at least I spotted that one myself before saving. Bastun 00:15, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Flagcruft

please don't litter pages with unnecessary flagicons that add nothing to the article see http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Kaldari/Flagcruft 84.184.248.237 (talk) 13:01, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

South Armagh Sniper proposed merge

Hi Vintagekits. First of all, thanks a lot for including the South Armagh Sniper article under the scope of the Republican project. Someone has proposed to merge this article with the Provisional IRA South Armagh Brigade one: I think a lot of info could become lost in the process, as well as depriving Misplaced Pages of an exclusive article about one of the key PIRA campaings during the Troubles. I invite you to participate in the discussion (talk). Thanx in advance. DagosNavy 23:34, February 8 2008 (UTC)

Third time lucky?

You ain't got the hang of those userboxes yet have ya? One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 10:32, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

stop laughin ya fucker! lol!--Vintagekits (talk) 10:33, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

As if I'd laugh at someone else's misfortune. Would I do that?! One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 10:35, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

I didnt laugh at any of that! yer a bad man.--Vintagekits (talk) 11:10, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

And after I've just fixed your userpage too. I'm hurt..... :( One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 11:46, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Ya fixed notin!! I only wanted the scroll thing on the user boxes but the way it is now is tidy.--Vintagekits (talk) 11:53, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

I did, but obviously you're lower class with a cheap browser so didn't notice the difference. If you're using Firefox, those two that I swapped displayed on the right hand side of all the others and made the window scroll horizontally to see them. But having checked in IE, they display down at the bottom. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 11:56, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Tyson-Holyfield III?

Hey, Vintagekits. I have a couple of links that might interest you.

http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxing-article/5622/tss-project-watch-usa-mexico/

http://www.fightreport.net/?p=1252

You think we should add these to Tyson's and Holyfield's articles? Please leave me a message on my talk page.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 22:14, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi Jedi, thanks for contacting me. I've seen those links and read a bit last week on a boxing forum. It might deserve a small mention but at this moment it is pure rumour and doesnt warrant much attention imo. I am/was a big Tyson and infact took the pitcure of him on his article giving the after dinner speech, here.

Maybe you and KO King want to get invloved and help out over here!!!--Vintagekits (talk) 10:52, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

The K.O. King

It's me The K.O. King the Master of Boxing. I got your message. Just tell me how to join the boxing wikiproject if there is something specific I must do. Leave a message on my page when you get this. The K.O. King (talk) 18:05, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

I have joined the boxing wikiprojct. I just can't get the userbox that says so on my page. Could you take a look on my user page and see why I can't do this? It would be a great help. The K.O. King (talk) 18:14, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

I'll sort it for ya.--Vintagekits (talk) 18:51, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

The Dark

Not dead yet apparently! One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 08:05, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I know. The is a report is yesterdays Sunday World about him being sick. A lot of the article seems to have been copied directly from the wiki article. I have taken a photo of it and will upload is later.--Vintagekits (talk) 11:42, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I have heard reports that he has died today, but so far neither the BBC or RTE are reporting it.--Padraig (talk) 23:53, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Omar Chávez

Thanks for the message. I moved it because I thought it was the right thing to do: the guy's Mexican, born in Culiacán, and the rest of Chávez boxing family (to say nothing of the crazyman in Venezuela) have their articles under the 'Chávez' spelling. I'm not watching the article if you feel the need to move it back, but I think it'd be a wrong decision. Aille (talk) 16:19, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Email

You have one :) One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 20:08, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

My puter is on its last legs!--Vintagekits (talk) 20:42, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

It'll be just head and shoulders soon then? ;) One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 20:44, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Is this when I make a joke about a freeloading waster who posed as the head of the military and died by the sword?.--Vintagekits (talk) 20:48, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Guys, knock it off. That's offensive in the extreme. Another comment like that and I'm handing out blocks. Seriously - Alison 17:56, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Don't blame me, I said nothing! One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 17:57, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

VK.. watch it, please? Not only am I not amused by those comments, but I happen to know personally that if Giano was still on WP, he'd be knocking you from pillar to post about it. Yes, you and Hack can feel like you're vindicated. But let's not get STUPID here. SirFozzie (talk) 18:00, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Care to join us?

See my talk page. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 17:45, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Josie McDermott

Josie McDermott? The article seems to be about Paddy Killoran. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:53, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Patience grasshopper!--Vintagekits (talk) 19:54, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

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Are you ill?

Since when were you the voice of reason?! One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 10:42, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

I know, I dont know what came over me - f*&£, pr"@*, ch!£;, - thats better!

Leave that GLF article alone please, you're stepping on a rather big landmine there. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 10:50, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Didnt realise it had been previously deleted. I'm doing the moonwalk away from it as we speak.--Vintagekits (talk) 11:05, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

It's lengthy... - trust me and don't go there. I've asked for both redirects protecting. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 11:12, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

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You need to tag it as PD, or CC 2.0 or 3.0 or something, not just say "mine". One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 13:44, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Which one do I use?--Vintagekits (talk) 13:49, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Depends. PD means anyone can use it no matter what, CC means that you retain copyright but people can use it providing you're given credit. How that works and is enforced in practice is anyone's guess.... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 13:54, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

I see you figured it out then.... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 12:05, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

I just moved it to Commons :) - Alison 18:40, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Suggestion

Hey VK, I'm just making you aware of what I'm saying to both parties over on Amir Khan. I strongly suggest that if folks don't want the page on Amir Khan protected and possible, short-term blocks handed out, that any significant changes be discussed on the article's talk page and consensus gotten before the changes are made. SirFozzie (talk) 19:43, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Hello VK, I'm teribbily sorry since i thought it was an IP address who kept vandalsing the article and now after the edits of yours the article looks better. Thankyou .Take Care Lil'GKhan (talk) 23:39, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough.--Vintagekits (talk) 13:05, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

I had a stab at improving it anyway. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 13:42, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Say that alright. Needs more work, reads like a fan wrote it.--Vintagekits (talk) 13:52, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

If you think that's bad, take a look at Millwall F.C.. "A leap into misery" - WTF?! One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 13:55, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

You what?

You "smartly turned down" some sparring with a strip-of-wind sixteen year old? Some sort of pansy are you? One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 15:52, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

If only it wasn't true - couple of bodyshots and this rapidly doughing framed would be bent over and kissin the canvas. I'd have to headhunt him which is poor etiquette when sparring in the gym. --Vintagekits (talk) 17:20, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Ah, you'll be one of those that has their sponsor's name on the soles of their shoes for maximum exposure then? One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 17:44, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

You mean Danny Williams! I've never been KO'd in my life hombre! Chin like an ox and hands of granite.--Vintagekits (talk) 17:47, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Blocked for sockpuppets

VK, I expected more of you. Apparently when I thought you had reformed, you had just decided that the rules didn't apply to you and you went on your merry way with other accounts. Per this report on ANI: , I am indefinitely blocking this account. SirFozzie (talk) 01:31, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Bang to rights, they are me and I am not going to deny them. I am not going to whinge and complain about the checkusers validity either. All I will say is that I had put them to bed a couple of months ago and hadn't really used them in an abusive nature either, possibly with the exception of the vote for Giano - which I was kinda goaded into by the pile of socks that voted against Giano after I voted for him. I have to say at the time they were created I was a bit obsessed/addicted to editing wiki and frustrated during sitting our the Arbcom and just wanted to edit something.

I'm happy to have a sock puppet amnesty and get them all out in the open if anyone is still interested. --Vintagekits (talk) 10:16, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Haroon Khan

Hello Vintagekits, I do not know if u have a problem with the Khans but you seriously need to lay off since there is enough evidence( Magazine, Internet and Web Interviews) to prove that Harry is indeed on his way to become a boxer in 1-3 years and I strongly suggest that you do not nominate the page for speedy deletion and ACTUALLY READ THE REFS Please reply once you are unblocked.
Thank You, Take Care P.s make that 21 blocks--Lil'GKhan (talk) 01:43, 20 February 2008 (UTC)