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Happy editing! You may also wish to read WP:NAM and WP:NLT. Bearian (talk) 00:13, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Re: Thanks

Of course. :) Glad to be of any service. Luna Santin 08:29, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Emergency Medical Technician

Can you also move over the talk page? Bstone (talk) 04:58, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

coolBstone (talk) 05:09, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Your wish is my command Fr33kMan (talk) 05:11, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Sheriff Seagal

Hi. I have removed yet again the section in the article Steven Seagal claiming that Seagal is or has been a deputy sheriff. Please do not re-add this material section unless you can offer reliable sources that would make the claim verifiable. You assert that evidence for this claim is available from more than one source, but the only evidence offered is the following:

• Seagal's own self-report, which is not adequate without corroboration.
• A claim which cites another Misplaced Pages article as its source (please see Misplaced Pages:Verifiability#Self-published sources (online and paper): "Articles and posts on Misplaced Pages may not be used as sources.")
• A comment responding to a blog post in which a poster says: a) he saw Seagal on MSNBC wearing a badge; b) he heard the Sheriff say Seagal trained his SWAT team (please see Misplaced Pages:Verifiability#Self-published sources (online and paper): blogs, forum postings, and similar sources are largely not acceptable.) If a blog is not a reliable source, then what a comment-poster to a blog says he saw on TV is obviously not a reliable source. Even if what the poster claims could be corroborated from a reliable source (like the transcript of the MSNBC show in question), the sheriff asserting that Seagal helped train his SWAT team does not make Seagal a deputy; nor does Seagal wearing a uniform.
• A CNN transcript of Anderson Cooper 360 in which Cooper says, "You know, you see a lot of surreal things here in New Orleans these days. One of the most surreal, Steven Seagal dressed up in a SWAT uniform. I don't know if you can see him, that's his back, I think, is turned to the camera. He's driving around, with the SWAT Team from Jefferson Parish. Not sure why. Just he is. One of the strange things you see here in New Orleans." Needless to say, this does not establish that Seagal is a deputy sheriff.

In fact, not only do none of these, taken singly or together, add up to a verifiable claim from a reliable source for Seagal being a deputy sheriff, none of them even attempt to make such a claim at all -- or even use the word "deputy".

In addition, you appear to be confused about where the onus lies: you ask, "Can you back up that your belief that he's not a cop...?" Please see Misplaced Pages:Sources#Burden of evidence: "The burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material."

In other words, it is not up to an editor who doubts an unsourced or poorly-sourced claim to justify removing it: the onus lies with the editor who wishes to include material to offer a verifiable, reliable source. If you have such a source -- i.e. a reliable source that can be checked by other editors which states explicitly that Steven Seagal is or was a deputy sheriff -- feel free to restore this section. Until then, please leave it out.

You ask, "should we take what , Anderson Cooper and Sherrif Lee have to say ? Or are you more knowledgeable than those people?" You have offered no verifiable, reliable source in which either Cooper or Sheriff Lee claims Seagal is or was a deputy Sheriff, so this question is moot. Moreover, what I know or don't know is quite beside the point: the issue is solely what claims are attributable to reliable, verifiable published sources. Those that are not, like the claim that Seagal is a deputy, don't belong in an encyclopedia article.

You don't seem to be able to read very well, do you? I said that Steven made those comments on a TV programme in England called the Friday Night Project and transcripts are available for it. Try reading the whole argument before you go off on one. Users like you who get a little power at wikipedia make the place crap for the rest of us because all you do is go around and pick on what others say. Your talk page demonstrates that! Fr33kMan (talk) 06:11, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Finally, please do not edit other editors' talk page comments, as you did here. --Rrburke 19:34, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

I have requested Oversight on this issue and have reported you for making potentially libelous comments about Mr. Seagal. Fr33kMan (talk) 22:39, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Your tone

Please tone down your comments. Several of your comments directed at User:Rrburke are bordering on incivility and personal attacks. While you are entitled to your opinion of the Steven Seagal article and while you are encouraged to contribute to the good of the encyclopedia, you are not allowed, per our explicit guidelines, to attack other editors. If you have any questions, please ask. If you cannot abide by our guidelines at Misplaced Pages, it is likely that you will eventually be blocked from editing from this account. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 00:18, 26 February 2008 (UTC)