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Hello. Thank you for adding the text of the "Footprints" poem to Footprints (poem). I have removed it for three reasons:

1) The page says elsewhere that the author is unknown; if you add a paragraph stating who the author is, you would need to change the other part of the page as well.

2) You make a claim as to who the author is without giving any sources where that claim can be verified.

3) If, as you claim, this was written in 1963, then as you say it is almost certainly still in copyright. Therefore, it cannot be reproduced in Misplaced Pages without a specific set of rights being given away by the copyright holder.

I hope this explains my changes; feel free to come and discuss it at Talk:Footprints (poem). Marnanel (talk) 17:44, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Hello again

Please stop adding the text of the Footprints poem to the Footprints (poem) article. I have explained above and on Talk:Footprints (poem) why this is. If you would like to discuss it, please come and discuss it on Talk:Footprints (poem), but do not add the poem again until we have all talked about it. If you add it again without discussing it, we will merely remove it, so do not waste your time. Marnanel (talk) 02:48, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

February 2008

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Footprints

Please stop adding your claims to Footprints (poem). We are accurately reporting the real-world dispute. You have not presented any claims which resolve this dispute, and there is thus no reason the article should take one side or another. This would be a violation of the WP:NPOV policy. If you do not stop, I will take this to mediation. Marnanel (talk) 04:12, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Page content for footprints poem

Why do you keep removing this text? These are important facts about this poem and about the authorship. There has been so much public deceit and this is nothing but pure sabotage when you cannot even give me credit for my own work.

Footprints, also known as Footprints in the Sand, is a popular allegorical text written in prose. Although released as an "anonymous contribution", it is often mistakenly attributed to Mary Stevenson or Margaret Fishback Powers. Carolyn Joyce Carty is the only author of the most popular version known as Footprints poem; One night a man had a dream whose copyright actually reflects it's anonymous contribution of authorship. See U.S. Copyright Record.

There also seems to be a critical error when stating that neithr Ella Scharring Hausen or Mary Stevenson never claimed their own copyright that it was only claimed for them by others. What kind of nonsense is that? Mary Stevenson vicariously tried to claim authorship of Hausens public domain version.

Carolyn

Thank you for replying to my message.

1) There is unquestionably a dispute in the real world about who wrote the text. For example, "Money" magazine reports on it here: . If there was not a dispute, it would not have made sense for that article to have been written. Since there is a dispute, it is the duty of Misplaced Pages to report on the dispute; Misplaced Pages cannot take sides in such a dispute because it is forbidden by the fundamental neutral point of view policy.

2) You clearly believe that one side in this dispute is correct. However, Misplaced Pages policy states that Misplaced Pages is not a soapbox for putting forward your own beliefs as the truth and other people's beliefs as false.

3) If there was a reliable source showing that Carolyn Joyce Carty was the author, that would be notable in the article. The source you have repeatedly referred to (the 24 February 1986 registration with the US Copyright Office claiming that the poem was written by Carty in 1963) does not establish sufficient evidence of authorship, only evidence of copyright, which is not at all the same thing, and that only prima facie.

4) If you are, as you claim, Carolyn Joyce Carty, you should not edit this article, nor should your friends or associates, because it would be a clear violation of the conflict of interest policy.

Let me know if I can help any further or clarify anything. If you believe I have made any mistakes and would like to discuss it with a wider group, we can take this to the mediation system. You might like to do some background reading about what Misplaced Pages is and what its policies are. Marnanel (talk) 21:06, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Marnanel your talking nonsense, there is no dispute in the real world. Money magazine wrote that article after complaints were made is now out dated. Stevensons legal battles have been settled for some time. All the text vary from each other which is reflected on the page. There is no dispute between Powers and myself. Her attorneys were contacted and since then her products have reverted to her particular text only. The problem was these people thought they could cheat me and they got caught. Now they have suffered terrible embarassment over it. The matter has been resolved and I Am Not willing to sacrifice my legacy with the public hog washing these stories. Enough is enough. Money Magazine never interviewed one single author for that story. My legacy does not revolve around Money magazine but my authorship. And if you want to present the Footprints Poem in the Wiki you must show the chronology of the poems history.

What is it that you need to present reliable source to this article? Be specific. I removed my published book from world wide marketing is that enough proof of authorship for you. If so then see authorhouse for details or contact me. Thank you

Carolyn Joyce Carty

Please, if you have proof, from a reputable source, show it. Your assertions here mean nothing without evidence. Whatever your legacy "revolves around", we have policies that Misplaced Pages revolves around, and one of them says that information added to Misplaced Pages must be cited. Can you show us an article from a reliable source that shows that Stevenson or Powers have conceded these points? If so, it is worthy of note in the page. Either way, it is still not evidence of authorship, and you still have a conflict of interest problem in writing on that article. Finally, why do you think you can make claims that Misplaced Pages "must" do something in writing about the text? Marnanel (talk) 16:18, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Marnanel, I most certainly do have something to say about the text I authored. You are promoting people who have counterfeited my work and that is a crime. There are RICO laws that protect me from that which apply to the Misplaced Pages. Why are you so persistant to keep yourself involved in this article? You are making an avid attempt to harm me and my authorship I simply will not tolerate it. I do not think that Misplaced Pages wants to be known as "Yellow Journalism." Are you aware of the liability that you are causing me personal hardship over this. I am going to ask mediation to remove you from this article. I do not need all this aggrevation that you personally are causing me.

Carolyn Joyce Carty