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== Hello ==
Why didn't you tell me you were an admin when we were talking about the GA article? Sorry if I offended you by failing the article. If you relist it, I will review it, and it will most likely pass since you added the pictures, that was really the only issue with it. Also, how can I edit the main page? Just a question. <font face="comic sans ms">]]</font> 17:50, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
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Congrats (and thanks for the LOL re your thankyou) ... Re the point below, there's no pressure to sign up for recall, it's a voluntary system and many admins (including myself) have not done so. Orderinchaos14:51, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Congrats! I hope you know that I voted in good faith, it is just that all users were bothering me and giving me a hard time for voting the way I did that made me insist on keeping it, which might unfair to you. Anyway, no hard feelings?
Hello,
It will be a good sign if you make yourself open to recall, and since you intend to continue the same level of high quality contributions, you should have no problem at all. I am slightly leaning towards a "yes"....
Whatever you choose, I am sure it will be wise..
Λua∫Wise14:38, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Again "Whatever you choose, I am sure it will be wise.." :)
I interpreted the questions differently. In any aspect, the article has still failed, due to the lack of information to support the subject. I am sorry for my misinterpretation on the actual meaning of the questions, and will use the information you have supplied to judge other articles. I will pass your article if you are to expand and add some more information on the subject, and also add some more pictures to help identify the article and its content. Happy Editing, Dusti16:53, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Re: Failed GA article
Ok, let me look at the article again and I will let you know. Thanks for the bar :)....I thought it was a good idea. Kudo's to you!!! Happy Editing, Dusti18:05, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
OK, to start off with, is there any more information about the IMO that you can put into the article? Meaning, more information about the group or historical information, to lenghten the article? Also, can you find any pictures of IMO in progress or something to make the article a little more lively? Happy Editing, Dusti18:09, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Good job on the pictures, now, is there any more information that can possibly be added to the article? Happy Editing, Dusti18:53, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Message you left me.
I noticed you left a message on my talk page, but reverted it. I hope you don't mind my answering your question here, because it was a good question that I do wish to address. The answer is that yes, I know my editing has been sparse and drawn out, but time permitting I do hope to contribute more regularly. scetoaux20:10, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Cheer up, just because you were the last one to sign up here, and by default the 'rotten egg' doesn't mean you have to express such sadness.--Niyant (talk) 04:24, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for participating in my 2nd RfA and supporting me! My RfA passed unanimously at 79 support, 0 oppose, 0 neutral. I would like to take this opportunity to thank AndonicO and Rudget for nominating me. I also want to thank LaraLove for persuading me to keep going after I failed my first RfA.
To be really honest, I am surprised that my RfA passed without any oppose or neutral. Being an administrator means more responsibilities, especially when I'm now an administrator on both English Misplaced Pages as well as WikiSpecies. I promise everyone that I will use the tools effectively to serve the community. If you need help on anything, don't hesitate to leave me a message on my talk page and I will get back to you as soon as possible.
Last but not least, remember the motto for Ohana: "When it comes to family, nobody gets left behind."
Hello Nousernamesleft! Hope you're working well with your new mop. :) It seems your thankspam has stretched out my talk page. Would you mind taking a look and seeing if you can fix it? Thanks in advance. GlassCobra05:06, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
WikiProject Articles for creation needs your help!
WikiProject Articles for creation has done a tremendous job in working at WP:AFC over the past 7½ months. Thank you all for your hard work and dedication! Together, we've made the submission process easier and more streamlined, developed tools to make the process go faster for reviewers, and cut the backlog down to a mere fraction of what it once was. Well done!
As you all are aware, however, our work is not quite yet done. The project still has 10 archive pages left to complete, which include over half a month's worth of submissions, many of which have not been completely reviewed. We need your help to finish looking over these neglected submissions so that we can finally remove the backlog notice from the page, and put an end to the more than two year old backlog that has been a thorn in our side for ages! Participants will receive an AFC Barnstar, so hurry up and help out while there's still work to be done! Make sure to sign in on the WikiProject's talk page so we know who is involved in what promises to be our final effort to complete this goal. Thank you for all your help!
- Happy editing as always,Hersfold16:28, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
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Admin coaching
Actually I put it there so that one day if I apply for admin, I can say that I tried to get coached. I would not mind you coaching me; some tips here or there will not harm anyone.
Thanks!
Λua∫Wise17:17, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! I noticed you match me with yourself on the coaching page, I did not expect to get a response that fast...The page is so backlogged.
Regarding the subpage, I do not know. You are the coach, you decide for me ;) The school is exhausting my brain that I can not longer think properly. I do not think a whole subpage is needed nonetheless, I am not that new to WP anyway (or new for that matter.
I have all of them (TW+AWB+VP), although I do not use the latter.
SO, here is a brief summary of what I did on WP: <bragging>
I fight vandals, patrol new pages, recent changes.
I work for WP:GL from time to time. Also I work for WikiProject neutrality and WikiProject Spam. More recently, I have intensified my efforts to get this WikiProject into shape.
I copyedit, review GA article nominees, and vote at RfA's, AfD's and FPC's.
2.7 K of edits, 1K mainspace edits.
1 GA so far, but I am pretty sure the other article which is being reviewed right now will pass, then i will go for an FA.
hmm, what else? oh, yes.. I have been welcoming new users since my first days on WP.
</bragging>
I intend to use the tools to protect and delete pages, block vandals instead of reporting them, and delete pictures...also some at the DYK area will help the folks there.
Great tips. As for welcoming users, I do not believe I welcome a great number of them. It's just that recently I have been testing templates and user Java scripts to reach the perfect combination to allow a fast personalized customized welcome, which I finally did today...working with mgactions only made me realize that working with WP DOM is really difficult. Now, I can place a Welcome in less than 2 seconds..the script I am using is the simplest thing I came with.
By the way, do you think {{W-Auawise}} violates any policy and I should move it to a user subpage? I have found absolutely nothing against it so far.
Give me a couple of days.. At the beginning I did not use the "subst" thing so this will cause some problems with transclusion. I will move it once I finish putting "subst" into all user talk pages with this template.
I agree with you, but I really found nothing that says it must be general for it to keep its name.
When it comes to mainspace editing, I tend to edit scientific articles, Biology and Physics in particular.However, I shy away from articles related to literature; not my area really. You might have also noticed that I have a particular interest in I.Q. and its effects.
If needs to, I edit articles related to WikiProjects I am involved in (recently WP:IRAQ and WP:KOSOVO) and articles concerned with schools.
I am open to other areas, but the above constitutes interests.
What is the assignment anyway? This feels like a job interview where I have to give correct answers to get the job... :)
(Outdent) Sorry about the talkpage, I will have Misza bot clean it for me. By the way, we can use this subpage for conversation to get some "privacy".
The assignment is a challenge given my lack of interest in history, but I like challenges and will do my best there. (You used your BOT to come up with this assignment, right? I am guessing because my recent history might reflect my interest in WikiProject Iraq but it also shows that I very rarely edit an Iraq-related article)
With 356 members, this project is extremely popular among wikipedians. Many Sysops are part of this project. I think you should however consider how much help you can offer there, I have always thought of you as a person who is interested primarily in maths and maths history, so I am understandably surprised to find you interested in an area that can not be described as not being dissimilar to maths. I personally like to help projects which really need help, projects that experience no progress in months.....
Sorry, I haven't been on lately. Yes, I gratefully accept your offer, and I'll definitely be on quite often during the month of March. Redmarkviolinist15:05, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for participating in my RFA, which closed successfully with 40 supports, 13 opposes, and 4 neutrals. For those of you who supported my RFA, I greatly appreciate it. For those who did not, I'm also thankful for your constructive criticism. If you need some advice or have some pointers for me, you know where to reach me! A special thank you to Majorly for all his time and effort he has placed in my nomination. Once again, thank you all for your helpful comments. Now off to new admin school! Cheers, Icestorm815 • Talk01:15, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Research on the RFA process
Hello, I am an anthropology student researching the Misplaced Pages Requests for adminship procedure. As you recently completed this process, I was wondering if you would be willing to answer a few quick questions.
Do you believe that the current RFA process is an effective way of selecting admins?
Do you notice a difference between users who are nominated vs selfnoms?
Is a week an appropriate length for process? Should it perhaps be longer or shorter?
Do you think the user's status in the community changes while the user is undergoing the RFA process? How about after the RFA process is over?
If you are willing, please leave your answers on my talk page or e-mail them to me.
This research will not be published academically, as this research is primarily to demonstrate the feasibility of doing online ethnography in online only communities such as Misplaced Pages, though I intend to make my findings available on Wiki. Your name will not be associated with any information you provide in any published work. If you have any questions please let me know. Thank you. --Cspurrier (talk) 18:40, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
Admin Coaching Re-confirmation
Hello, previously you expressed interest in participating in the Misplaced Pages:Admin coaching project. We are currently conducting a reconfirmation drive to give coaches the opportunity to update their information and capacity to participate in the project. Please visit Misplaced Pages:Admin coaching/Status to update your status and move your entry to the Active list. Also, please remember to update your capacity (5th table variable) in the form of a fraction (eg. 2/3 means you are currently coaching 2 students, and could accept 1 more student). Thank you. MBisanz09:28, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
I know, you were the last one to add and now I ask you to go back and do it again. Sorry! Couldn't think of another way to make sure everyone listed a capacity. MBisanz15:12, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Your ER
Hi, I'm working on the backlog at WP:ER, and your empty review from December is at the bottom. Are you still interested in getting reviewed? If you don't still need a review, it would lighten the load to archive it, but of course if you do still want one, I'm glad to do it, probably in the next couple days. Let me know. Peace, delldot on a public computertalk10:35, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Its a stick dude vandalizing and another reverting the vandalism. then he is asking people to help fight vandalism and the "the more you know" is a joke on an NBC thing.--Pewwer42 Talk 00:23, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
Go Peter! Good job! The AMC 12 does not matter now! I think you will be a good admin. By the way, what's with the shirt? And what should I make edits to?TheDoctor80 (talk) 21:57, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
Well, there's {{reflist}} and {{reflist}}, I'm not really sure either. You could always try removing scripts one at a time and seeing which fixes it, that's what I usually do when something breaks. Keilana| 03:26, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
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There are currently 3,647 Good Articles listed at WP:GA.
The backlog at Good Article Nominations is 185 unreviewed articles. Out of 237 total nominations, 42 are on hold, and 10 are under review. Please go to WP:GAN and review an article or three as soon as you have a chance!
The top five categories with the largest backlogs are: Sports and recreation (39 articles), Theatre, film, and drama (34 articles), Transport (23 articles), Music (21 articles), Politics and government (18 articles), Culture and society (13 articles), Places (13 articles), and World history (12 articles).
If every participant of WikiProject Good Articles could review just one article in the next week, the backlog would be almost eliminated!
GA Sweeps Update
Two members joined the sweeps team this month. They are Jwanders and jackyd101. Jwanders swept Physics sub-category quickly and is now sweeping "Astronomy and astrophysics". Meanwhile, jackyd101 is sweeping "Armies, military units and legal issues".
During February, 66 Good Articles were reviewed. Including those articles that were under GAR or on hold, 33 were kept as GA, 21 delisted, 17 currently on hold or at GAR, and 1 was exempted as they are now Featured Articles.
Reviewer of the Month
Blnguyen is the GAN Reviewer of the Month for February, based on the assessments made by Epbr123 on the number and thoroughness of the reviews made by individual reviewers each week. Blnguyen is from South Australia and has been editing Misplaced Pages since 2005. He was also the reviewer for the month of December 2007, so this marks the second time that he has been GAN's Top Reviewer for the Month. Congratulations to our GAN Reviewer of the Month for February!
Other outstanding reviewers recognized during the month of January include:
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Misplaced Pages:Lead section is written with all this in mind, and describes two different roles for the lead: first, it should introduce the topic; second it should summarize the article. This is not always as easy as it seems; indeed, it is almost impossible to write a good lead if the article itself does not cover the topic well. It has a side benefit that an article which satisfies this guideline is probably also broad: if the lead is both a good introduction and a summary, then the article probably covers the main points.
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Good luck helping more articles meet this important criterion!
From the Editors
Well, this is somewhat GA-related but at the same time not totally GA-related. However, I think this is important. Thanks to everyone who supported me at my 2nd RfA. It passed unanimously at 79 support, 0 oppose, 0 neutral. As many are impressed by my work in Good Articles processes, I want to take this opportunity to thank everyone giving me a very enjoyable time at GA. There are 2 people that I want to explicitly say thank you to. They are Nehrams2020 and Epbr123. They patiently taught me how to do GA reviews properly in summer 2007. I couldn't achieve better without them. Now that I have the mop and the bucket, some of my time will be working on reducing Commons image backlog. Nevertheless, you will still see me once in a while in matters related to GA.
OhanaUnited
Please leave any comments or feedback regarding this issue here.
Why didn't you tell me you were an admin when we were talking about the GA article? Sorry if I offended you by failing the article. If you relist it, I will review it, and it will most likely pass since you added the pictures, that was really the only issue with it. Also, how can I edit the main page? Just a question. Dusti17:50, 4 March 2008 (UTC)