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Tanthalas39

Voice your opinion (talk page) (7/4/0); Scheduled to end 00:34, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Tanthalas39 (talk · contribs) - Very recently, I joined the coaching project as an admin willing to coach other editors. I couldn't have been more fortunate with the editor that I ended up being paired with. Please, allow me to introduce to you, User:Tanthalas39, AKA Dan. At the onset of the coaching, I told Dan that I was looking at a June or July RfA. Then a May RfA. As we proceeded through the coaching process, the date kept moving earlier and earlier based on the clue that this editor has. Based on Dan's contributions and his willingness to delve into unfamiliar areas with grace and thoughtfulness, I'm completely convinced that there is no need for further coaching. He's ready, right now (and was probably ready before signing up for coaching). Tanthalas is more than qualified to be an admin based on our coaching page. To talk about his contributions a bit: he has made several reports to AIV, he has begat several articles (I'm sure he'll include them in the answer to Question 2). His contribs to deletion discussions are sound and policy based. More recently, he has added his thoughts in RfAs and ANI. Looking at his contribs, I can't find any evidence of incivility nor lack of knowledge. He is one of the most well-rounded non-admin editors that I've had the good fortune to come across. Seriously, I've clicked on virtually every single contrib of Dan's and I can't find a single reason not to allow him to continue to build this crazy little encyclopedia with the admin tools. I'm convinced he will be a net positive to our community and will only help us, not hinder, by giving him extra buttons. I'm pleased to present to you, esteemed community, Tanthalas39 - Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 00:34, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here:

I accept this nomination. Tanthalas39 (talk) 00:51, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Questions for the candidate

Dear candidate, thank you for offering to serve Misplaced Pages as an administrator. It is recommended that you answer these optional questions to provide guidance for participants:

1. What admin work do you intend to take part in?

A: I intend to use the administrator tools in the article deletion arena (AfD, PROD, CSD) and occasionally in page protection. As I often have bits and pieces of time during the day to vandal fight, I would be able to put the tools to use there to block chronic vandals. I watchlist WP:AN and WP:ANI, and although I don't feel I would step into each and every problem that comes up, if it is one that I am comfortable and experienced with, I will. Otherwise, there's typically other administrators with different areas of expertise that can cover. Tanthalas39 (talk) 00:51, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

2. What are your best contributions to Misplaced Pages, and why?

A: Article writing is definitely what I like most about my Misplaced Pages time, although I find myself doing other things more often because of the time demands of quality article expansion. I belong to four Wikiprojects, and am most active in the WP:AZ project - I have made significant contributions to Homolovi Ruins State Park, Oracle State Park, Bonytail chub, and Tarantula hawk, among others. I also significantly expanded Landing at Kip's Bay to contribute to the American Revolutionary War Task Force, a project I have plans to contribute more to soon. Also, Tahquitz. As one could observe, I especially enjoy stub expansion. My editing style tends to be rather compressed - I use "show preview" extensively, so my mainspace edits are fewer and larger. Tanthalas39 (talk) 00:51, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or have other users caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?

A: Of course I have been in "conflicts", although I don't think I have ever been stressed over it. There are several ways of dealing with conflicts, depending on the context and nature of the problem. Talk page discussions are obviously always best, compared to a short, snarky edit summary comment. Sometimes a civil yet firm hand is required, other times if you just wait a few hours and let things cool off, things work out much better than escalation. I have not been in any sort of content argument yet, as I tend to edit more history or fact oriented articles with little to no POV. However, I do participate in 3O, and if I had an issue I couldn't work out on an article talk page, that would be the first place I would go. I always keep in mind that Misplaced Pages is never complete, and it won't kill me for information in an article to not adhere to my desires while a conflict is being worked out elsewhere. It really seems that most heated arguments start with people that need instant gratification on their POV of where the article should go. Tanthalas39 (talk) 00:51, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

General comments

• See Tanthalas39's edit summary usage with mathbot's tool. For the edit count, see the talk page.

• Links for Tanthalas39: Tanthalas39 (talk · contribs · deleted · count · AfD · logs · block log · lu · rfar · spi)

Please keep discussion constructive and civil. If you are unfamiliar with the nominee, please thoroughly review Special:Contributions/Tanthalas39 before commenting.

Discussion

Support

1. Enthusiastic support, as nominator. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 01:02, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
2. Support, could do with more time here, as you only have four months here doing a lot of editing, but you are doing a lot, and have done well here, and I agree a lot with what Keeper has said. Good luck mate! ~ Dreamy 01:24, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
3. Support Will do fine with the mop. - Maximillion Pegasus (talk) 02:22, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
4. Support Unlikely to abuse admin tools. --Siva1979 02:25, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
5. Can be trusted with the tools. NHRHS2010 03:14, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
6. Support. The only thing that made me nervous is the number of unanswered posts on the user's talk page, however despite this, I still think that Tanthalas39 can be trusted to make good use of the tools. I think this user will make good use of the tools. According to my RfA criteria v1.0, Tanthalas39 gets a score of 92.8% 94.3%. Patrick Hennessey (Speak) 04:17, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

   Candidate response: I rarely, if ever, let a comment to my talk page go unanswered. I usually answer directly on the original poster's talk page. I got used to this while experimenting with the "talkback" tags. It was an unwieldy system at best, so perhaps I should go back to just answering on my own page. However, point is - I don't simply let comments or questions go ignored. Tanthalas39 (talk) 04:34, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

   Nod... I hate talk pages like his *grin* he does answer on the user's page which makes following conversations hard... but if that's how he likes to do it, there is no rule saying you have to respond on your own page.Balloonman (talk) 05:24, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

   Well, that takes care of that, if the questions are answered, that satisfies me, it doesn't concern me whether it is on your talk page or the other user's. Thanks for letting me know. I am ammending my support comment because of this new information. Patrick Hennessey (Speak) 05:41, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

   I am ammending my criteria score because of new information. Patrick Hennessey (Speak) 06:14, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

7. Support Stats look good and I trust Keeper's judgement. MBisanz 04:21, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
8. AGF. I'm not overly concerned by the opposition arguments; 4 months is fine, and in response to Mr. Arritt, we wouldn't have spotted Archtransit no matter when we sysopped him, or whatever is being argued there. We shouldn't disadvantage other candidates because someone skillful got through. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 06:52, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
9. Looks OK and I don't think he is Archtransit. EJF (talk) 08:16, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
10. I hope he is Archtransit. lulz Niyant (talk) 09:43, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Oppose - Definitely on the right track that's for sure, but I think there's an experience issue here. The count breakdown for individual articles is sorely lacking, and the project-space is kinda thin. I applaud the work at WP:AIV, but there's more to being an admin than just vandal fighting. I see the user has also taken an interest at WP:AN. Very good, but I would linger there abit longer. Also, I notice a distinct lack of talking, which is disconcerting. Come back in like 3 months at the most and I'll support you. Wisdom89 _{(T / )} 01:59, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
2. Oppose I looked at Tanthalas a few weeks ago as a potential admin coachee myself and thought that he was about 3-4 months away from being a viable candidate. When this RfA came up, from a contributor I respect, I decided to give him the benefit of the doubt and looked at his contributions again with a fresh eye. My opinion remains unchanged, I think Tanthalas will make a good admin, but I don't think now is the time. Tan became an active contributor in December and almost immediately requested coaching. He has about 3 months of active editing (Dec, Jan, Feb.) If you look at the number of edits on articles, he has about 90 edits on the 15 articles he's edited the most. He's only worked on one article for more than 10 edits. His contributions to article talk space is even worse. He's only made 40 edits on the 15 article talk spaces that he's edited the most---none of which is for more than 4 edits. This shows a complete lack of article development experience or consensus building. User talk is the same story---if you ignore his own page (where he has 22 total edits) he hasn't communicated with other users to a great extent. The only Misplaced Pages category he has an extensive history (with 77 edits) is AIV. Misplaced Pages talk has a TOTAL of 5 edits. While I personally like him and think he may be a fine admin in the future, I don't believe that day is today.Balloonman (talk) 04:05, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

   Comment. Whilst I of course respect your point of view, I would like to point out that a low number of edits to an article does not neccesarily indicate small changes or a lack of editing skill. With Landing at Kip's Bay as an example, Tanthalas39 massively expanded and improved this article in the space of only 4 edits. Patrick Hennessey (Speak) 04:28, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

3. Oppose per Wisdom89. Given that we've had some adminships blow up in our face lately (the worst case being User:Archtransit) it's prudent to observe candidates a little longer than four months. Raymond Arritt (talk) 04:09, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
4. Oppose Per Balloonman. I don't see anything that says that candidate will abuse the tools but there just isn't enough time spent in discussion to show composure under heated debate or a desire for article building. Just needs to spend more time collaborating and come back with a bit more experience. I agree with Wisdom, discuss things a bit more, participate in article building and come back in a couple months. Adam McCormick (talk) 06:02, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
5. Oppose I get a feeling of ambition here, which is not necessarily bad, but looking at this , I would gather that the candidate is more interested in being an admin rather than building an encyclopeia. I know my opinion is altruistic, but I feel more comfortable with candidates who don't outline a roadmap to adminship. While I'm sure the candidate will be trustworthy, I'd rather see more trenchwork. Yngvarr (c) 10:33, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Neutral