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Talk page archive #1 - January/06 to December/07
Talk page archive #2 - January 08/ to

Notes to self: The Siege of Rhodes, Palladian Villas of the Veneto

Will you be interested in working on another article?

Specifically Jacques Plante. It's been at GAN for about a month now, and I've decided to start moving to another stage of its development. I've contributed more or less the entire content of the article. I think it could you use some copyediting. Can you take a look, plz? I think you did a very good job with Hockey Hall of Fame, and I want to work on another article with you. Thanks, Maxim_(talk) 14:57, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Sure, 3 to 4 weeks seems to be fine. As for the sourcing, most of the stuff except the 'early life' section can be found online. I've been aware of this issue, it's been pointed out to me before. Should I replace the references or should I add the other references as well? Thanks, Maxim_(talk) 13:55, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice

Risker, thanks very much for telling me how to create a new article for someone with the same name. (I just spotted your message from November.)

I actually want to write an article on my father, an accomplished artist and author. He's not world-famous, but he does appear in most art indexes and has also been collected by a number of museums including the Tate.

Problem is, I'm not sure if it is ethical for me, as his son, to write the article? I would primarily refer to his regular CV as well as directly from him; the horses mouth... There is no better authority! But again, not sure it is ethical for me to write it, if if we should have a non-bias party put it together.

Any thoughts? And thanks again, Thegallery (talk) 16:03, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

All the Lost Souls

Thanks for taking the trouble to inform me for the reason for your reversion. My copy of All the Lost Souls has a Bonus track which is a very slow version of Dylan's "I Want You" without the final verse (it also contains the bonus track "Dear Katie"). I wondered if that was the iTunes bonus track, hence my edit. Mickraus (talk) 12:17, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

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Otters

The otter thing is just an inside joke that I started one day when I was bored (I have a lot of those days). I was inspired by Tony Fox (talk · contribs)'s sig, which has "Arf!" instead of "Talk". Because I really like otters, I decided to give an otter theme to my sig -- otters make chirp sounds sometimes, so "talk" became otter chirps, and "contributions" became "broken clamshells" (just as I leave behind usually productive edits after I'm done with my work, an otter is probably going to leave behind some clamshells after banging them on the rocks and eating some clam meat). From there, I decided to extend the joke and say that I have otters editing Misplaced Pages with me, and that they're the ones responsible for most of my good edits, while I'm the one who does all most of the screwing up. That, and about $3, will buy you a box of Otter Pops. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • 03:34, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

As you can tell by my user page, I'm into country music mostly. I think that Diamond Rio, Gary Allan, Mary Chapin Carpenter (and maybe a few others) are pretty close to GA status; in fact, I did most of the writing on Diamond Rio. I would love to see more country music articles promoted to GA or FA. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • 04:06, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for responding (and for the help). I'll read over the whole thing (gives me something to do). GoodDay (talk) 00:07, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

MM Prop Dec.

It's interesting. I find myself deleting about half the responses and comments I might make because they are wholey snarky and filled with inappropriate language. and surprizingly it seems that everyone else (so far) is doing the same. Have a great weekend. --Rocksanddirt (talk) 00:10, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Your comments at Arbcom

Risker,

I don't want to clog up the talk page (more than it is), but I do want to clarify. I quibbled with the detail about when the proposal was added. I did not mean to be dismissive of your comments, and in particular, the second paragraph here exactly captures what I was thinking. I watch cases because I am interested, but also because I invested time and effort in making informed choices to support candidates for ArbCom, and their voices, as individuals, carry weight and matter. That is why they are on the committee. Jd2718 (talk) 01:58, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your message; I didn't feel particularly dismissed by your comment, but am pleased to know that we are on the same page about the value of arbitrators "owning" their opinions. Personal accountability is one of the cornerstones of Misplaced Pages, and it needs to be in evidence at the level of the Arbitration Committee. Much as I may have disagreed with many of Fred Bauder's votes and comments, at least he stood behind them. I am of the sense, based on the fact that our "newest" arbs are the most active on this case, that there may be an internal desire on the committee to become somewhat "kinder and gentler." I have to say that the one thing that many in the community found completely improper does not seem to have made it into their list of "indecorous" behaviours - the editing of other people's evidence. To me, "incivil" doesn't come close to covering that particular action. Best, Risker (talk) 02:16, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Some insightful comments

Hi, u:Risker, re this insightful post, I imagine I could construct an argument that editting another user's posts was a "personal attack", and that edit-warring with other users also is a "personal attack", but it might not fly. I think your approach is more reasoned. PS: fixed my talkpage, regards Newbyguesses - Talk 06:21, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

edit summary

I try to call 'em like I see 'em.  ;)

Unfortunately, this has sucked up the remainder of my enthusiasm for the project for the time being. --Rocksanddirt (talk) 20:07, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Jacques Plante

Sadly, I missed your note in a pile of other ones. :-( It's now been archived to User_talk:Maxim/archives/mar08#Jacques_Plante. Concerning your ideas... I work on stuff off-wiki in a text editor then paste the text in. For refs, I haven't scoured the library, but I have a book on Plante's contemporary Glenn Hall which portray Plante in a rather more negative light, and the internet can provide the rest. Your ideas? --Maxim_(talk) 20:12, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

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Of course

Since you're obviously already familiar with the reasons for removing content from that talk page and such a good friend of Giano's, I felt sure you'd share his concern over about the community's best interest ...and Jimbo's. Good work you two dealing with Diligent Terrier!. FeloniousMonk (talk) 05:35, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Indeed, I do count Giano amongst my friends, but I can hardly say that about many of the other editors who concurred with his opinion there. Luckily for Diligent Terrier, he seems to have you for a friend. Risker (talk) 06:54, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

thanks!

...for fixing the AFD...Renee (talk) 03:03, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. :P

For undoing my edit in the Hockey Hall of Fame page.

Just a little out of it today. ^^; I should have thought about that a little more before deciding to change it.

Thanks again! Thysiazo (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 15:42, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

About that WP:BLP1E problem

I'm glad you left a note at Doc glasgow's talk page about this. Please take a look Misplaced Pages talk:Notability (people)#Shortcut WP:BLP1E should not link here for some suggestions about how to clean up the problem, and add your sugestions. (You might as well, since I mention you ;) )Noroton (talk) 23:08, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, I have indeed said something, although I am not entirely certain it fits into any of your options. As far as I am concerned, and from my observations, most of the people using the shortcut were people who've been doing it since long before it was moved to the Notability guideline, so they probably meant to link to the policy in the first place. This is one thing that really does drive me slightly nuts about Misplaced Pages. There is not a single significant content policy that has remained anywhere near stable in the just over 2 years I've been editing. Some of them are nearly unrecognizable now. And yet, the majority of editors simply remember the policies as they were in their earliest editing days, and are tripped up by changes they knew nothing about, and that often are the peccadillo of a small group of editors who are striving to shape policy to meet their own ends. Hmm. Time for some tea, I think. Risker (talk) 03:43, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

The more I think about it, the more I have doubts about this consensus decisionmaking system, although every system will have its problems. As far as WP:BLP1E goes, I can live with any decision as long as we get it off the BIO page. Noroton (talk) 15:49, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

I have no doubts about consensus. It is the founding principle and driving force of Misplaced Pages. It is the murky brown tea that flows in our veins. SilkTork * 00:46, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm...not exactly an appetising mental image, that. Consensus worked far better when there was a homogeneous and relatively small editing community, or at least a relatively small community that cared about policy development. That ceased to exist a long time ago. And what is consensus? How do we define it? Why is it different for some things than others? As Misplaced Pages has grown, it has attracted people who are far less prone to groupthink, who question more, who have broader experience in the real world. As well, more editors are weaning themselves from the enculturation, on realising that the Five Pillars have shifted in position considerably over the last few years. Consensus was always a little bit of a charade; it has become more so in recent times. Risker (talk) 01:38, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Hello

Hi! I was wiki-surfing and came abou your userpage. I was wondering if you would mind if I used your cartoon of the {{cn}} on my userpage. It prety much sums up my philosophy, as well! Thanks!--Sallicio 03:48, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Feel free! The cartoon is "safe" for user pages (it's creative commons instead of fair use), you can either copy the the top of my page or just click on the picture to get the image name. Risker (talk) 04:11, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Mahalo for the picture! Cheers!--Sallicio 04:14, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up, I responded on my talk page, too!--Sallicio 04:59, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Kalisha Buckhanon

An article that you have been involved in editing, Kalisha Buckhanon, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Kalisha Buckhanon. Thank you. MCB (talk) 04:07, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Kalisha Buckhanon wikipedia

Not sure how this works...so just leaving you a mesage! Most of the info about Kalisha Buckhanon's childhood is housed in the Kankakee Daily Journal, her hometown newspaper, which she seemed to stay in quite a lot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.201.67.242 (talk) 21:11, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Peaches Geldof

The discussion in this section has now been moved to Talk:Peaches Geldof. Please do not post any more on this subject on my user page; go to the article talk page instead. Thanks. Risker (talk) 22:47, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Arb

Hey, thanks for noticing that. I didn't see if he changed it, but I think hopefully people will get the point from context. Mackan79 (talk) 03:33, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

No problem. I am a stickler for language use, particularly in "official" pages, because misinterpretations can have significant repercussions for the individuals involved. If FT2's timeline is correct, then your block is truly stunning. Good on you to roll with the punches. Risker (talk) 03:36, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Happy to Help

Hi,

I'm Greg Comlish from WP:INVESTMENT. Foggy Morning pointed us in the direction of your request for experts from ArbCom. Which pages need the attention experienced investors? We've got a lot on our plate right now, but I'm always happy to help. Greg Comlish (talk) 19:50, 17 March 2008 (UTC)