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I was involved in a road accident on monday evening, and I have only just had chance to get access to a computer. (Dont worry I'm fine now, just some moron hit me on my bike...) Hence, I'm going to be semi-active for a while - well, barely active at all in fact. I've unfortunately not been feeling myself lately, and have taken this opportunity to take a proper break from this for a while. I hope to be back soon.

Hope you're better soon

Wow Maj - really hope you feel better soon. Glad you weren't too badly injured, I just hope your bikes ok as well :-) Take care sir and get back on here when you feel ready. Ryan Postlethwaite 00:17, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

It wasn't me, I promise! Get better soon. Regards, Daniel (talk) 00:23, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

To which I can only say... . FT2  00:24, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Sorry to hear this Majorly, I hope you'll get better soon. Best wishes to you. Acalamari 01:50, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Truly unfortunate, hope to hear from you soon. -- Anonymous Dissident 13:46, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

At least you're well enough to be writing this message. Anyways, I hope you're back to your old self soon. Qst (talk) 16:22, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Best wishes for a speedy recovery... who's going to do all the work while you're gone? I too hope you're back to your old self soon. ++Lar: t/c 02:52, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank-you

Hi Majorly! Thank-you for your support in my RfA (91/1/1). I take all the comments to heart and hope I can fulfil the role of being an admin to the high standard that the community deserves. Seraphim♥ 16:49, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

And I hope you feel more like yourself soon. Seraphim♥ 16:49, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

thanks for being part of Misplaced Pages:NotTheWikipediaWeekly

all the files are now online - and thanks again for coming along for a chat... whether you were vocal, or more of a listener, your support is fantastic - and do consider hosting a skypecast of your own before too long! (I think I pressed all of three buttons this time!) - once again thanks, and I look forward to seeing you around! cheers, Privatemusings (talk) 03:18, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Email

Ping. Ryan Postlethwaite 02:07, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Final warning

Please do not edit war to restore the edits of this particular banned user - this is a very exceptional situation. If you revert again, unfortunately I am going to have to block you. Please reconsider. :( krimpet✽ 02:08, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Already been done. Majorly (talk) 02:10, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Email for you :) FT2  02:11, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Proxying for a banned editor

Majorly, I hate to do this here. I've known you on WP for ages and you're a great guy. I've huge amounts of respect for you. However, right now, I have to warn you that reverting me wholesale, as you are doing is causing problems. Let me be clear: if you persist in reverting my edits, I will block you myself for proxying for a banned editor. I mean it. I will block you until you give me an assurance that you will stop from doing this. Alternately, you can appeal directly to the Arbitration Committee. I'm treating this banned editor as a very special case and will afford him no leniency whatsoever. And you, as proxy, will be held in exactly the same regard.

You have no idea as to the background behind this situation nor what's occurring in RL. You have no idea as to what this editor has been doing off-wiki, or of the ramifications of allowing him to edit here. I'm already putting myself at risk in dealing with this issue where most admins will not, that's how serious I consider this. Majorly - I never get heavy about this stuff, as well you --Alisyn 02:32, 19 March 2008 (UTC)know, but I'm doing so now. Other editors here have already been blocked for doing what you're doing here. Stop it now - Alison 02:13, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

I have been blocked already! Jeez. What a great block log - nearly two years here completely clean, and some trigger-happy admin East718, who hasn't even bothered to inform me yet decides to block me - indefinitely of all periods. A simple warning would have stopped me immediately. Majorly (talk) 02:21, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

(ec) Ok, you've already just been blocked indef by another admin. Please consider what I've said above and reply here. If you'll desist from proxying for this banned editor, I will unblock you myself. But this disruption to the encyclopedia needs to stop now - Alison 02:22, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Do not unblock me. Ever. I deserve to be banned. Majorly (talk) 02:25, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

You sure that's what you want? Your call ... - Alison 02:27, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, it isn't, really. People aren't banned because they ask to be banned. If he is doing something that earns him an indefinite block, then so be it, but such an outcome would need far more input than there has been here so far wouldn't you think? Avruch 02:28, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

However this particular block seems like overkill, I respect East and his contributions but just can't agree on this one, Majorly's possitive contribution outweight this incident by a huge margin. - Caribbean~H.Q. 02:33, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

The block is not supposed to be forever. It's only until Majorly realizes that proxying for somebody who gets their kicks from harassing female admins in real life, then editing the articles of people he stalks is one of the worst ideas possible. east.718 at 02:37, March 19, 2008

I can't understand why such a prolific editor would suddenly want to be banned. Useight (talk) 02:31, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

I said I deserve to be banned, not want it. And I'm hardly as prolific as I once was, sadly. Majorly (talk) 02:33, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

I've changed your page, is that what it's supposed to be? I'm totally shocked. --Alisyn 02:32, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

I think you can wait a few more minutes for the indef block banner, eh? Yes, indeed you can. Avruch 02:32, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

For what it's worth, none of this sounds/feels/reads very much like Majorly as he appears here and elsewhere on Misplaced Pages for the past two years. ៛ Bielle (talk) 02:34, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

I think this might be a misunderstanding. Have mailed. --Kim Bruning (talk) 02:38, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Majorly - I've just unblocked you now as you were blocked before you were final-warned. Please read what I said above as it still very much applies here - Alison 02:40, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

No, you didn't read what I wrote. Do not unblock me. I'm clearly unsuitable to be editing Misplaced Pages. So why am I unblocked? Majorly (talk) 02:43, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Too late. It's done. You weren't final warned, and now you are - Alison 02:46, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Irrelevant, as I don't intend to continue editing. Majorly (talk) 02:53, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

I concur with Majorly being unblocked. He won't start reverting again. :-) --Kim Bruning (talk) 02:55, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Looks like it's too late for that. I think an editor of his standing deserves an apology for being blocked without ample notice. (I was curious myself as to why

This account has been confirmed by a CheckUser as a sockpuppet of Amorrow (talk · contribs · logs), and has been blocked indefinitely. Please refer to the sockpuppet investigation for evidence. Account information: block log – contribs – logs – abuse log – CentralAuth

didn't have a sock tag or any other info that I could find). OhNoitsJamie 03:23, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, fair enough. Seconded. --Kim Bruning (talk) 03:24, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Dear Majorly, I was shocked to read that you had been blocked, because I know you as a longstanding and respected contributor. This looks like just something that happened because of an inopportune convergence of factors and timing. I'm sorry that your clean block record has been marred. That kind of thing can happen to anyone, through no fault of their own. I do hope you will put this behind you and continue participating as a member of this community. I hope to see your thoughtful contributions to discussions continuing into the future. --Coppertwig (talk) 03:28, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Majorly doesn't seem to be acting in character. Are you sure his account wasn't hijacked by someone else? Cla68 (talk) 03:29, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

He is currently logged into Misplaced Pages Review, so I'd guess it's the same person. Or both accounts are compromised. Perhaps his note at the top of this page explains the events, in part at least A Rather Hot Donkey Named Bob (talk) 03:31, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

I also thought the account might have been compromised. Did any e-mail him and get a response yet? Useight (talk) 04:19, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

It's a question of two different groups of people thinking the other had ... well... frankly... gone insane, I think. I've communicated with both groups, and now they both have the same information, and both agree that the other side is not insane. :-)

(How's that for being vague?) ;-)

Majorly is fine, the wiki is fine. Everything is working as normal again. Just a strange misunderstanding due to a failure to communicate sufficient background information. Nothing to see here anymore, move along! :-) --Kim Bruning (talk) 05:28, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Majorly, I'm really sorry that all this happened tonight. I've known you for ages now and on here and ... well, I'm shocked at what happened here. Firstly, let me say that you should not have been blocked here, not least of all without warning and I'm really sorry that happened. It shouldn't have. You absolutely don't deserve to be banned - certainly not! Unfortunately, the editor you were reverting was a one-off case where I cannot and will not allow their edits to stand here without very good reason. It can be done, but wholesale reverting just isn't on. It's not a simple case of 'damaging the encyclopedia' here, as there's another dimension to this. Unfortunately, I can't explain why here so I'll take this to email instead. I feel awful that this whole thing came crashing down on you and I'm really sorry for having played a part in that. Please do stay on here! - Alison 05:42, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

But, what was up with these "Why are bananas yellow?" questions in several RfAs? What was going on there? Cla68 (talk) 06:26, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

He's been doing those for a while now, in an attempt to parodise RfA questions. And to those who say that this isn't Majorly behaviour...IMO, they just don't know him well enough. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 09:31, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Oh, parodying RfA questions. I believe you. Cla68 (talk) 11:23, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

I really really encourage you to contact Alison and chat about this one. I share your philosophy on the contributions of banned users but this situation is different. Viridae 10:46, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

• Majorly, I think I know who the banned user is. Some people are banned, some people are really banned and some people are so banned that there isn't even a term for it. This user falls into the last category. I don't know of anyone who is more completely, irrevocably and irredeemably banned than this user, and for very good reason. Please don't take it personally, I have been slapped down by email for getting involved with this one before now, please believe me (and others here) when we say that you really really don't want to go there. Nobody thinks you're evil. Guy (Help!) 17:05, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Majorly, I'm really sorry this happened. I don't think your block was appropriate either, even if I don't think you should have been reverting Alison's edits. I hope you can find it in your heart to eventually forgive East718 and everyone else that may have said things that were unkind, and come back to en:wp. You're a valuable contributor on many wikis... never forget that. ++Lar: t/c 17:07, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry that I wasn't online last night (darn that real life, anyway) or I would obviously have tried to defuse the situation. In lieu of that, per Alison and Viridae and Guy. Newyorkbrad (talk) 17:09, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

And it's not very often that that trio is all wholeheartedly on the same side of anything, either. But I still have my own concerns insofar as the concept is accepted that entire classes of ideas, viewpoints, and editorial decisions can become taboo in a sort of "guilt by association" due to being connected in some way with edits made by a banned user; the more draconian types attempt sometimes to apply this concept to all banned users, while others limit its application to the "really banned" or "so banned there isn't even a term for it", but the whole concept is suspect. Is it really true that if some edit of an "extremely-banned" user happens to fix an erroneous statement somewhere that the earth is flat or that 2+2=5, it would then be forever forbidden to say that the earth is round or 2+2=4 because that would be "proxying for a banned user"? *Dan T.* (talk) 17:17, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

No. Newyorkbrad (talk) 17:20, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

To switch from my own contrived examples to an actual one, it's apparently now forbidden to update the statistics for the Chinese Misplaced Pages or make a mention of Baidu Baike, or to link Baidu Baike as an example of another wiki encyclopedia in an article about another of that sort. *Dan T.* (talk) 17:26, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Yup! So you see that Majorly wasn't exactly insane to act the way he did. :-) Still, wait a few days before fact-checking and restoring anything at the least. Or contact me per e-mail first. --Kim Bruning (talk) 17:51, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Dan, go away. Stop making this into the latest episode in your anti-BADSITES crusade. Will 18:04, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

I didn't even mention BADSITES here... you did. *Dan T.* (talk) 18:41, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Plus, I think he and Majorly have a bit of a point. I'm sorry I don't know who amorrow was, or what he may have done to anyone else on the project. I also don't know how he was definitively connected to the IP who made the edits these fine folks edit warred over. But it distresses me to see the project turned into a battleground to fight real-world battles. Rather, if one user is causing real-world harm to another, there's no action on-wiki that could rectify the situation and this isn't the place for it. I really think the Foundation's legal rep should be available for this. --InkSplotch (talk) 22:21, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

WP:RFA/Geni 2

Can you explain this and how mature you think it is? These questions are in no way relevant to the project, his RfA, or anything that's happened during his time spent here at Misplaced Pages or any other WMF wiki. --Charitwo 13:42, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Well done you for working that out :) Majorly (talk) 16:44, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

LOL! --Coppertwig (talk) 17:30, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

I'll certainly keep that diff in mind, glad to know what kind of person you really are. --Charitwo 00:36, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

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