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User talk:GregManninLB1

re: photo request

I might be able to take a picture of the skinny house sometime in 2-3 weeks (no promises), but I very much doubt I'll make it to Marblehead, MA any time soon. --jacobolus (t) 00:15, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

The O'Reilly Spite House is actually only about a mile away from me. I might go take its photo tomorrow, assuming good weather, if I can find someone to make the trek with me. --jacobolus (t) 05:02, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Hollensbury Spite House photo request

I saw your name at Misplaced Pages:Wikipedians/Photographers. Please photograph the Hollensbury Spite House at 523 Queen St, Alexandria, VA 22314 for spite house. Thanks. GregManninLB (talk) 23:23, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Cool! I haven't had a request for ages. I have plans to head out that way on April 1 or 2 already, but if you would like it sooner, I should be able to go next Tuesday or Wednesday. (It's going to be a bit soggy and cloudy in the DC area until then.) Let me know how quickly you'd like it. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 00:20, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

I apologize, but I had to delay my April 2 trip after being called out of town unexpectedly. I hope to take care of this early next week. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 19:02, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Sheesh! I'm still waiting for the sun to come out. We've had nearly 2 weeks of clouds and rain, and it looks like it's going to continue for the next 10 days. There might be a break tomorrow that I can take advantage of. I'll keep you posted. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 08:52, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm looking forward to it. Have you seen the photos of the house on the Internet? GregManninLB (talk) 11:58, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

No, I hadn't seen those. It looks like there are four main contributors:

• MarieMcC of Alexandria Daily Photo (copyrighted under a Creative Commons license that doesn't allow commercial or derivative works, so it's not usable for us)
• John Kelly, Washington Post (no specific licensing, but surely requiring fee-based licensing)
• Michael Temchine, commissioned by New York Times, actual interview & inside photo shoot (surely requiring fee-based licensing)
• "Stella" of Paint Floats blog on Blogspot (implicit copyright and no licensing terms)

I still plan to try for some outside shots tomorrow morning, which currently looks like good weather. If it makes sense for the article (which I haven't read recently), I might be able to see if the residents/owners wouldn't mind a few inside and backyard shots like from the NYT article for our article. (But that would have to come later, of course, not something I could set up immediately.) Let me know. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 22:04, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry

I don't live near enough to Gainford, and I will not be going in that region for quite a while. Sorry i couldn't help you.  Sunderland06  01:54, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Virginia City spite house

Sorry, Virginia City is in northern Nevada, hundreds of miles away and don't know when I can get there. (I just clarified my driving range on the photographers page.) Stan (talk) 03:41, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Alameda spite house

Got your request:

I saw your name at Misplaced Pages:Wikipedians/Photographers. For spite house, please photograph the Alameda Spite House, located at Broadway & Crist St, Alameda, CA 94501. This shows a suggested photo angle. GregManninLB (talk) 00:45, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

That's a bit out of my way, but not horribly so, and the idea of a spite house is interesting enough that I might try to round up a field trip up that way sometime soon! Thanks for the suggestion. I'll see whether I can manage it. Elf | Talk 04:33, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Photography

I will attempt to do this soon(ish), but I can't promise anything. At the moment I am putting off a lot of stuff for Misplaced Pages including ADCO because at current I have a ton of work to do from school. If I forget, don't hesitate to remind me. I should warn you, however, that I am not planning to go down to Durham and I will only take this if I am in the area. αѕєηιηє /_c 09:15, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Skinny House

I really enjoyed your article on spite houses. Inspired by the red link I saw therein, I am writing an article on the Skinny House in Boston's North End. It's in my sandbox right now. If the weather is good tomorrow, I will try to trek over to the North End and get pictures to accompany both articles. Again, very nice work on your article! Thanks for calling these interesting houses to our attention. - House of Scandal (talk) 21:37, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

• I took photos of the Skinny House today, added one to spite house, and wrote an article about that house itself. - House of Scandal (talk) 00:30, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Greg, thanks for adding the info box, etc. However, the completion date is off and I am not sure how to fix it. 1864? 1874? I didn't see an exact date in the source material but may have overlooked it. Best wishes, House of Scandal (talk) 16:12, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

spite house

I'm afraid I moved to London a couple of years back, many hours away from County Durham now! Have updated my entry on that page. Stevekeiretsu (talk) 18:27, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Spite House Photograph Request

Hello, GregManninLB. Unfortunately, my trips do not take me near Virginia City, Nevada. When I do travel to Nevada, I am usually in the southeastern tip. -- Kjkolb (talk) 20:26, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Spite house DYK

On 25 March, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Spite house, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Thanks for the interesting article. --BorgQueen (talk) 11:16, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Photo request (Frederick, MD)

I saw your name at Misplaced Pages:Wikipedians/Photographers. Please photograph Tyler Spite House at 112 W Church St, Frederick, MD 21701 for spite house. Thanks. GregManninLB (talk) 23:20, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

I should be going through that area on Friday -- I'll see if I can get some photos then. Cheers! --Bossi (talk • gallery • contrib) 21:14, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

FYI, I got a number of photos; I just haven't had a chance to upload them yet. I'll leave a message as soon as they're up, which I expect should be sometime before this weekend. --Bossi (talk • gallery • contrib) 03:56, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Uploading the images right now. Keep an eye on Category:Frederick, Maryland. Cheers! --Bossi (talk • gallery • contrib) 04:24, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Looking good! GregManninLB (talk) 14:49, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Photo organization

Good work on organizing the photographs. I was able to upload a few photos that I've had lying around for a few months anyway. Now I've got a few lists to carry with me on places I'll be going soon. Elf | Talk 03:46, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Seattle area spite house

I'm not going to be back in the Seattle area until late May, so you might want to find someone else. —WAvegetarian (talk) 04:27, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Guam picture request

Hey there. Sorry but I moved out of Guam back in 2001. I don't live there anymore and therefore I cannot take photos for you. Elektrik Blue (talk) 21:08, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Maunsel White

Hi, thanks for the tip about the Maunsel White map; I didn't know about it. I'm downloading it to my PC as I collect info about White. Sincerely, --Skb8721 (talk) 15:31, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: Template:Reqphoto

I'd be more than happy to implement code if necessary, however, I currently have neither the time nor the patience to write any. I know very little about the workings of Reqphoto, so I'm probably not the best person to be adding 16 parameters and a nested option. If you find someone to write the code (or write it yourself), use an {{editprotected}} tag on the talk page and it'll flag an admin. Cheers. --MZMcBride (talk) 15:50, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Photo requests

Are all photo requests limited to states or counties? The reason I ask is, while Sally Kipyego is a student at Texas Tech University, she competes at running events throughout the nation. So, photo opportunites aren't limited to Lubbock County or to Texas. →Wordbuilder (talk) 18:33, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

You can add a photo location request for each location a Misplaced Pages photographer likely would find Sally Kipyego. As a student at Texas Tech University, a Misplaced Pages photographer in Lubbock County likely would find Sally Kipyego to snap her photo. Template:Reqphoto has other parameters, such as "|of=" where you can specify a particular type of photo (e.g., "|of=Kipyego at the beginning of a race." I added some more to the Sally Kipyego talk page. GregManninLB (talk) 18:42, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the tips. I appreciate your help. Keep up the great work. →Wordbuilder (talk) 19:36, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: King County Photo.

Thanks, I appreciate the heads up and will put forth an effort to be an active contributor.

Lothar the Terrible 18:58, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Photo requests

Why are you removing the photo request parameter from {{U.S. Roads WikiProject}}? Please don't remove these, it is needed by the project to know which articles still need articles. --Holderca1 17:55, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Nevermind, I see that they still go into the same category. --Holderca1 20:57, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Why photo requests?

Greg, I see that you've added photo requests to the talk pages for several articles that, in fact, already have photos. I'm looking at the ones in Category:Misplaced Pages requested photographs in Nevada County, California, a few of which do have photos--Empire Mine, Bridgeport covered Bridge, Malakoff Diggins, Englebright Lake--so just curious whether the request was for some other kind of photo? In which case you can use the "of" argument to specify what kind of photo (like {{reqphoto|....|of=the park outside the mine}} Elf | Talk 23:01, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

I though that those articles could use more photos. In the future, I'll use the "of" argument if I see that an article already has a photo. Thanks for the heads up. GregManninLB (talk) 00:44, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Category:Images of California

Hello. Why did you put Category:Images of California in Category:Misplaced Pages requested photographs in California (diff) and also the other way around (diff)? I can't see a good reason for either of these edits. Together, they form a loop in the category structure, which is generally to be avoided; see Misplaced Pages:Categorization#Cycles should usually be avoided, especially the last paragraph. Same for Connecticut, and possibly other states that you have edited. -- Jitse Niesen (talk) 11:47, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Those viewing Category:Images of California may see Category:Misplaced Pages requested photographs in California and try to match existing images with requested photographs in California. Those viewing Category:Misplaced Pages requested photographs in California may see Category:Images of California try to match posted requests with existing images of California. "See also:Category:Foo" seems a better approach. Thanks, I'll make the changes. GregManninLB (talk) 14:54, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Excellent! -- Jitse Niesen (talk) 15:05, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

I made the changes. Hopefully that will fix the problem. I'll sit back a few days and see if any more pop up before continuing. Thanks again. GregManninLB (talk) 15:08, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Ivybridge Community College

Do you live near to Ivybridge, because Ivybridge Community College and Ivybridge for that matter both needs pictures. Bsrboy (talk) 22:52, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't live near there. GregManninLB (talk) 22:53, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Photo requests by county

Actually, since the two major population centers of California are the Bay Area and Los Angeles, terms like "north", "central" and "south" are skewed compared with the actual geography of California. Therefore, Santa Cruz County would be considered Northern California by most Californians. Anyway, I think that having requests listed by county is good, but I personally choose not to make my location too specific for privacy reasons. Thanks, Kjkolb (talk) 03:52, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Revised Misplaced Pages requested photographs in Florida

Hey! :) Dude, I actually created most of the Florida photo subcategories. I'm trying to get pics of the NRHPs in Florida, and it dovetails with that. I made some of the categories conglomerates (like the Panhandle) b/c some counties didn't have a lot of photo requests, or were likely too. But what you did is a good thing, and more ambitious than I was willing to do. Which is saying something! :) Ironically, I took a long Easter weekend trip thru the Panhandle, and have pics of a good number of places that I'll be able to cross off. But it's all good, man. :) Oh, and here are the results of my obsession. Still have a few hundred more of the Panhandle trip to upload, though. Thank good I discovered Commonist; only wish it'd been sooner. Anyway, cheers, mate! :) --Ebyabe (talk) 22:26, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Articles needing images

Hi. You seem to be going through the categories that WikiProjects are using to maintain their articles, depopulating the categories, and failing to notify anybody. Imagine my surprise when I went to check Category:Hawaii articles needing images only to find the category deleted and empty. Care to tell me what is going on? These articles are being watched and maintained by WP:HAWAII, and we have done quite a bit of work adding images. Other projects are watching their articles as well. Do you have any intention of telling anyone what you are doing or should I just spend the next three hours trying to catch up? —Viriditas | Talk 11:46, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Excuse my error. You notified the project after you made your changes. We would be happy to categorize our articles into your chosen categories, but only through the project template. Looking at the articles you have categorized, most of them are inappropriately categorized. We will be happy to coordinate with photographers through our project. Your system will not work, and has been tried before in the past with nobody paying the slightest attention to these tags. I'm surprised you are ressurecting a proven failure. The best way to get images into these articles is to use the project assessment flags which will bring the categories to the attention of the project and any participating photographers. The average reader is not going to add photographs to the article or pay the slightest attention to the tag. In most cases, the active projects will add images to the articles they are maintaining. Your addition of maintenance categories to main categories is also problematic, as you are merging backend attention/maintenance categories with frontend browsing. This is the reason we have WikiProjects in the first place. Please use them to attain your goals. Separating the projects from the content they maintain is a freshly paved road to nowhere. —Viriditas | Talk 12:13, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I just reverted all of your changes. If your goal is to get at least one image into all of these articles, then I would like to welcome you to WP:HAWAII as we share the same goal. If, however, your goal is to force a system that has been proven not to work on to a WikiProject actively trying to improve these articles, then I would ask you to please take your system elsewhere. The best thing you can do, is try to implement a Project-wide template standardization for dealing with images. That way, all of the projects will be on board. I have never seen any evidence that the "reqphoto" system has resulted in anyone jumping forward with images. I always add images to article by project, as do most editors. If you have any evidence that the "reqphoto" system has worked in the past, I would like to hear it, but the fact is, working from the Project-level is the best route to take. —Viriditas | Talk 12:49, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

And just in case you don't understand a word I'm saying, here's a very primitive worklist that gives the project a very quick view from the top:

• Review current photograph requests
• Determine scope of television-related articles
• Update WikiProject invitation templates
• Update geographic coordinates
• Sign up for Milestone Announcements
• Coordinate with WP:VOLCANO
• Update project layout and design
• Update Hawaiian island infobox

Take a look at Images needed. Your system fragments these categories, and makes it more complex, resulting in less efficiency and increased time to completion. We really don't need any maintenance tags aside from those in the project template. If someone wants to do the work, they can see that it needs to be done in the tag and in the main page. They don't need more categories by location, many of which cannot contain the articles accurately. All image requests are not locale-specific, in fact you can see by the above list, that many are not. So, how is your system useful? And with the rise of creative commons licensing and free image archives, why would I need to request a photographer anywhere? —Viriditas | Talk 13:03, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

I also want to add that the name is wrong. We really have no use for Misplaced Pages requested photographs. What we need is requested images. All images aren't photographs. Some are logos, maps, screenshots, drawings, book covers, and other things that can be scanned. It's redundant to call it Misplaced Pages - we all know where we are. What we need is precision; a topic name and an image request. Specifying just photographs isn't accurate. In your opinion, how is the name, Category:Misplaced Pages requested photographs in Hawaii, superior to Category:Hawaii articles needing images? We aren't interested in photographs in Hawaii. What we want is to add images to Hawaii articles. This approach is inclusive. For example, how would adding a request for photographs in Hawaii help add images to articles on Ancient Hawaiian history? Or Hawaiian mythology? I can go on, but I hope you see my point. If all you are trying to do is recruit photographers, then create a centralized department and ask the projects to submit their image categories to you. I can think of a dozen more successful methods to obtain your goal than the one you are using. —Viriditas | Talk 13:21, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Response

I understand what you are trying to do, but in practice it doesn't work. Yes, it provides neat and tidy categories with dotted i's and crossed t's, but what we want is for people to actually add photographs to these articles. Take Category:Misplaced Pages requested photographs of food. This category has how many members? Hundreds. And is there anyone actively working on it? I can tell you, that without this category, I added many photographs to Hawaii-related food articles. That's because I was using the project to maintain these articles. When you just categorize for the sake of categorizing it doesn't help anyone. On the one hand, you've provided a place where people can go browse articles that need photographs. Great. But wouldn't it be more practical to decentralize this process, and ask the projects to take them over? In fact, that is the answer to all of our maintenance problems, from cleanup to references. But instead, we get people hiding these categories and centralizing requests. Two steps forward and three steps back. Do you want people to add images to these articles or do you just want to create categories to put articles in? Think about that. —Viriditas | Talk 14:22, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

I will personally attempt to fulfill every image request. The Hawaii project has less than 3000 articles, so that's actually reasonable. But looking at the image requests, I can see right away that most of them will never be fulfilled, nor are they ncessary. More importantly, why does an article need an image? Rick lay95, who is a member of the Hawaii WikiProject, has added image requests for obscure, defunct sports stubs. Perhaps he means to request a logo, I don't know, and I haven't had a chance to ask him. But as I said before, many image requests will never be fulfilled, or aren't necessary. —Viriditas | Talk 14:32, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I'll stop bugging you. Since you and others love this reqphoto system so much, if you can figure out a way to incorporate it into the project banner, I will support it. But we don't really need the location subcategories unless that could be automated in some way. I originally compromised and left your category in the template. But the more I thought of it, the more I could see how it wasn't really accurate. I'm sorry to say that I've left you a category redirect and that sort of defeats your whole purpose. Why haven't you just gone to the WikiProject Council to standardize the project templates? That way we won't have the banner bloat, and each project can maintain multiple articles needing images. —Viriditas | Talk 14:40, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll look into that. GregManninLB (talk) 14:51, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

worldtraveller

Hi - User worldtraveller has left and won't be coming back (at least under that username). -- Rick Block (talk) 02:36, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Category talk:Hawaii articles needing images

Hi. I would like to invite you to a discussion at the link I've provided in the heading. Thank you. —Viriditas | Talk 07:48, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Viriditas. What ever you decided for the Hawaii Wikiproject is fine with me. GregManninLB (talk) 14:04, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Greg, could you at least address some of my concerns? Like for instance, can you tell me whether the reqphoto project you are currently working on is an official WikiProject or being run under the auspices of the Photography WikiProject? If it is, I would be more than happy to implement a standarized parameter for use in the WPHawaii template, that will allow you folks to get the job done. I would even go so far as to allow you to use the project as a testing ground prior to rolling out the system to other projects. But, as I said in my lengthy comments, the current system you are using does not work and needs to change. Let the projects deal with identifying articles needing images and categorization, and concentrate on finding the photographers. As I asked on the category page, have you made any efforts to contact the 1700+ photographers listed on Misplaced Pages? Shouldn't we be spending our time tapping into that resource instead of spending countless hours adding useless categories? If you feel I am wrong on this, please let me know. All I want to do is help you achieve your goals. —Viriditas | Talk 08:47, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Requests for photos ..

I've added my name to several of the English lists, as requested. You might like to consider deleting Category:Misplaced Pages requested photographs in Avon (county), since the county of Avon was abolished in 1996. --MichaelMaggs (talk) 15:48, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for adding your name. Also, I deleted the category. GregManninLB (talk) 03:33, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Template:WikiProject GeorgiaUS

Code has been added. Please test it out to insure I didn't screw things up and revert to previous version if necessary. Thanks for the update. --Roswell native (talk) 16:33, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Excellent addition. I envision this becoming very useful. I just added the parameter to the template documentation as well so others will hopefully know how to use it. Feel free to edit that explanation for clarity. I'll start using this parameter as I tag article project pages. --Roswell native (talk) 16:52, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I got your message about use of this template. Since you asked so politely (and because it is a good idea to combine the templates), I want to comply. :) See Template talk:WikiProject GeorgiaUS#Photo request feature for comments/suggestions that I just posted. doncram (talk) 21:28, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Speedy

I declined it because it doesn't fall under the speedy criteria. WP:CSD#T3 does not cover redirects. For that you would have to go to Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion. On which I wouldn't really bother, since it's an old redirect it is possible that someone might still use it. Redirects are cheap. Garion96 (talk) 20:39, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

{{reqphoto}}

Greg, I ran across your categorization by counties in California for {{reqphoto}} and this template. First of all, I think it's a great idea, and I'm slowly working on making Category:Misplaced Pages requested photographs in Illinois the same. However, wouldn't it be easier/possible to make the template a general template for use on all states, rather than just California? Jauerback/_dude. 14:26, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, I'm not part of Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Illinois, so I don't want to speak for anyone from that group, but personally, I wouldn't be opposed to it. Jauerback/_dude. 14:58, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Sounds great. I've already semi-protected the template permanently, too. Jauerback/_dude. 22:12, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Template:Needtrans

You suggestion of the speedy deletion of Template:Needtrans is bewildering. Your rationale is that it's a duplicate of Template:Translation and that the template is note being used. You are very much mistaken on both counts. The other template in question does not even resemble Template:Needtrans and besides, the template is used extensively on Pages needing translation into English. I will post these arguments on the template's talk page as well. I would also hope that you would also do the right thing and remove the deletion tag.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 13:16, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Template:WikiProject Illinois

It has 21,279 transclusions. So, any vandalism or mistakes are distributed to 21,279 pages. Probably best that it wasn't reduced from full protection. If you write / test the code and are ready to have it go live, simply put an {{editprotected}} tag on the template talk page and an admin will be along to sync the page. Cheers. --MZMcBride (talk) 19:58, 9 April 2008 (UTC)