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The result was Speedy-K. Great rescue guys. SynergeticMaggot (talk) 03:15, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Nonviolent communication
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This was declined as a speedy, but to me it reads as advertising for this guys book with a dose of instructional content and a linkspam farm thrown on top. No links to reliable sources, and I couldn't find any either, so it seems to qualifiy as original research as well. Beeblbrox (talk) 00:56, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- Keep for the moment. As a Peace Studies major, I've heard of this concept, and I think I can probably find some reliable sources before the AfD runs out (although it's the busy time of year for college students). If I can't, then I'll say so and change my !vote. I do agree, however, that the article could use some major improvement; it's certainly not neutral and the links at the end are far too numerous. Anturiaethwr 01:22, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- Strong keep: "Advertising for this guy's book." Make that twelve books, at least. Nonviolent Communication: A Language of Life ranks # 9 (out of 100) on Amazon.com's list of Interpersonal Relations bestsellers and # 52 on the list of Psychology & Counseling bestsellers five years after its initial publication (# 693 overall). Speak Peace in a World of Conflict: What You Say Next Will Change Your World ranks 21 among Amazon's Conflict Management bestsellers. Courses in NVC are taught all over the world. I'm not sure why Beeblbrox was unable to find sources. I've added a "References" section with several. I agree with Anturiaethwr that the article could be written in more neutral language. Also agree that the links need triming. Sunray (talk) 01:28, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- Comment. I actually saw that section before I commented; I offered to look for sources because I think it might be argued that those sources aren't quite up to snuff. I have no strong feelings about them, but I think some people might object that some of them aren't strictly "third-party," being interviews with the author; and that one of them is about the book, rather than about the concept itself. The Co-intelligence Institute one looks fine to me, but I don't know whether that alone is "substantial." If no one objects to your sources, then I'll just go with a plain "keep." Oh, by the way, I don't think the sales numbers on Amazon are reliable indicators of notability--neither for the book, nor (more importantly) for the concept itself. Sorry. Anturiaethwr 02:07, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- keep. Get rid of the spam - and everything will be fine. Sources will be easy - Ill see if I can find some. Fattyjwoods 01:50, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- keep. NVC is an important and valid method of conflict resolution and is well established. It is recognized enough that it deserves an entry. If the article seems to slighted then it should be rewritten, but the topic should not be removed completely.
- Keep The term is at least thrown around a lot; any spam problems can be fixed without deleting it. JeremyMcCracken (talk) (contribs) 02:52, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
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