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Reply and a Request

I hope you don't feel beaten up over your perfectly good VfD work so far, and will come back to it. -Splash Thank you - I'll do so. =) Having made your aquaintance, however, and while I have your attention... Could I invite you to take a peek at the WP:3O page under the entry for talk:demimonde? A third opinion is most definitely needed, and it would be quite a waste to just let that lie indefinitely. =) Xaa 15:53, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Cambridge alumni categories

If you were inclined to put a blanket CFR from 'Former students of Foo College, Cambridge' to 'Alumni of Foo College, Cambridge' then you would get my support vote. David | Talk 16:09, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Robert Diamond vfd

On Misplaced Pages:Votes for deletion/Robert Diamond your vote was Delete but your explanation sounded like you were saying keep. I just wanted to point that out to you. DS1953 20:26, August 3, 2005 (UTC)

Ahem. That'd be the deletionist in me. Corrected!-Splash 20:31, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Robert Diamond

Are you sure your vote on this VfD was what you meant to write? You said:

Delete, I think that being a CEO of Barclays Capital is good enough. I couldn't find a copyvio, either.

That sounds inconsistant, or do i misunderstand you? DES 20:27, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

I screwed up. I've changed my vote to keep, which was what I really meant. -Splash 20:31, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your input on Demimonde!

Thanks much. =) I have made an attempt at an article, but I'm afraid it's my first one, here, it may not be perfect. Xaa 03:04, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

Psi Phi

I was the original creator of the Psi Phi article, and I am most certainly not the same person who created the David A. Henderson article. I have no clue who David A. Henderson is, or who created an article about him, but it certainly wasn't me. — JIP | Talk 08:15, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Category titles

...now has a straw poll. Please give your opinion. Radiant_>|< 09:50, August 4, 2005 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Votes for deletion/Ninjas in Pyjamas

The problem isn't that you voted, but that the VfD was only two days old (in terms of its being placed at Misplaced Pages:Votes for deletion). --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 16:34, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

Sorry — I looked at the VfD logs for the date that the VfD was opened, plus two or three days later, but it didn't occur to me that there might be a gap of a fortnight... I'll go back and revert everything to your edits. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 17:09, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

Cora Pearl Image

Done. =) It's a PD image, she's been dead quite some time (and so has the photographer). Xaa 17:17, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

Liked your comment on Misplaced Pages:Votes_for_deletion/BotF

"The keepability of an article is in inverse proportion to the length of comment required to defend it on VfD."

I got a good laugh out of that, and thought I'd say so. ;) I think it's a good and amusing rule of thumb, even as I'm trying to forge a compromise over there.

:-) good luck with a compromise! -Splash 02:29, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

And hey, next time I'll remember to sign. ;) --FreelanceWizard 03:07, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

• • So you're the one! Funny on the face of it, I agree, and many times it would seem to be true, we at BotF have a weird sense of self. Many are veterans of other boards and most keep coming back to The Fray just because of what can be accomplished there on any given day (not today, unfortunately). As I mentioned, I'll try some edits this weekend, but it will be a lurching affair.--SwingLowSweetDeej 21:57, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

Encouragement needed

I agree. I just got back on today. Did you see this Cfd talk. Didnt really help any. Seeings he's the only one who does any real work on Cfd, comments like that don't help. ∞Who?¿? 21:49, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

Sorry bout the multiple edits; bad day, and didn't feel like preview button :) I'm hoping his normal weekend getaway will help. I was actually wondering about closing some discussions on my own, since technically, if I remember correctly, anyone can do it. As far as my RFA, I don't really remember when it was, I try not to even look at it. I do think its too soon, and I have some, well other people have some issues with templates, that I personally didn't have anything to do with, but still get the blame over. I actually thought about bringing in someone else to look into the current Cfd stuff, since he's been taking a lot of unnecessary hits lately. Only to help him out with all the comments, of course. This new keyboard is driving me nuts! ∞Who?¿? 22:02, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

Yea, that's who I was thinking. I'm hoping, and thinking it will be fine by Monday too. I will send him a msg early monday and see how he is doing, I will be gone for a week after that though. ∞Who?¿? 22:38, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

Iraqi civil war

You made some very good points. =) I have given that article a severe thrashing with the NPOV hammer. Now how does it look? Xaa 01:35, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

• Through persistence and diligence, the surgeons managed to save the patient. 8-D Now let's see if he dies in the VfD recovery room. ;-) Xaa 02:59, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

Re:Purge button

Ask func =) and use his monobook.js additions, adds a whole bunch of stuff, even better, check out my monbook.js with a alotttttta stuff in it. Happy editing! Sasquatch↔讲↔看 05:32, August 6, 2005 (UTC)

Zxcvbnm

Thanks for the heads-up. I'm afraid I had to oppose the guy. Radiant_>|< 08:38, August 6, 2005 (UTC)

Template:Stuyvesant High School infobox TfD combined

Thanks for your help regarding the above TfD. On my talk page under the following heading, you said: "Since you already voted (and nominated!) in the above TfD..." The reason I voted was because I thought that's what Stage II of the instructions indicate:

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'''Your vote''': Your reason for nominating the template ~~~~

I thought this seemed a pretty strange - did I misunderstand it, or is it wrong? Cheers, Bobbis 19:40, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for clearing it up on my talk page. I notice not everyone follows the procedues then! Bobbis 20:11, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

Shoes and Socks and Laughter.

The sign is a joke, but probably needs explaining. ;-)

The stated reason Tony gave for rejecting my vote (and those of the others) was that I was new, and was likely a sock. He stated his criteria was 1 month and 100 edits in article-space before he would take anyone's vote seriously, just to prevent counting socks. I found that more disappointing than I can possibly express - that entire page he was looking at had votes on it from me on multiple articles from multiple authors, I was obviously not a sockpuppet. Since I don't think Tony's an idiot, it simply reinforced what I already had been told in the e-mail I was sent when I first started working on VfD: Don't touch anything until you've been here six months to a year.

Consider this piece of entertainment, and the accompanying article and it's edit history. Can I report that and have anyone take it seriously? No - I reported it, but people aren't even looking at it. I've been watching it for hours. Amorrow will take a break for an hour or so, then resume, making posts and edits about every seven minutes for two to three hours at a stretch. And each edit gets more and more eerie and frightening - now, he's talking about scalpels and sex and... Gah. Truly frightening dude. He's literally scared away all the other editors from his pet article, and is editing it any way he pleases. I posted the behavior to the Wikiquette page, but I don't really expect a response. I mean, I'm nobody here - who cares? Of course, it's not really necessary. Sooner or later, someone with Seniority will notice him and handle it.

'Seniority' is normal in all social groups for people, and in nearly all internet environments, and it's pretty much an established policy on Misplaced Pages. I didn't just start on the internet yesterday, I've been online about ten years, now. So, I decided that rather than get mad about it (which is NEVER productive and NEVER a good idea), I'd just laugh, put up a funny little sign, and sit back for a few months until I had enough time on the clock for people to decide to take me seriously. =) Laughing is always better than not. And yes, I am smiling. I'm not mad, I understand - I'm 42, going to be 43 years old, I'm not a kid who blows his stack every twenty minutes online. I was *disappointed* for a bit, but after I looked at that little sign I made, I busted out laughing at how trivial my disappointment really was. =) Xaa 20:28, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

• My first VfD vote was after I'd been here for about a week; as far as I can tell, I have never had a vote disregarded.' Heh. Wish I could say the same, but I can't. ;-)

Given the effect of that editor's postings, I would suggest (strongly) that you leave a message on WP:AN... Alright, I'll try that. Xaa 20:57, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

=P For a moment I nearly regretted supporting him in his RfC ;-) Xaa 21:47, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

...a fraction on the inclusionist side of things... Yep. Of course, I'm the opposite. I don't see a need to include every single bit of trivia on comics, Harry Potter, hollywood movies and other drek to be encyclopedic. Ben Hur is worthy of an Encyclopedia entry. So is Apocalypse Now. The Alien and Terminator movies, however, do not. Why? Because they had no long-lasting impact on society. Apocalypse Now changed people's perceptions. Alien did not. As for Harry Potter, consider that the L. Frank Baum's Wizard of Oz series was just as popular, if not more so, and also generated several movies over the years. But when you look up Wizard of Oz in any other encyclopedia on the planet, you do NOT get a detailed, blow-by-blow description of the story, lists of minor characters who only had one line (or didn't speak at all), endless reams of movie and book trivia, etc, etc, ad nauseum. There is no Spoiler Alert - if you want to find out whether or not Dorothy makes it home, go read the book. =P I guess my basic criteria is this: Two thousand years from now, if some future society only has this one page I am looking at to judge our entire society from (kind of like how we are with the Romans - the entire surviving literature of the entire Roman Empire fits on a single CD), is this something I am really going to want them to see? I mean, I realize that Jimbo's goal is to contain "the sum of human knowledge," but let's face it, do we REALLY need to record the controversy over whether Marilyn Monroe had five or six toes on her left foot as being something humanity as a whole considered to be worth knowing? =P And some entries are simply pointless. Like the entry on 'Feces' has a paragraph which describes human feces. I mean, is there anyone old enough to READ an encyclopedia that doesn't already KNOW what their own poop looks like? =P Xaa 23:02, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

• • Oh - and I got tired of waiting for someone to do something, and decided to do something myself. The ones that were worth keeping, I left alone. The ones that needed work, I fixed. This one, I nominated. =P Xaa 03:08, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

User:Coolcat on RfA

Thanks for fixing the broken link. Coolcat has not responded to the questions because he hasn't been on his computer, I guess. I guess we can only give him time to wake up, and I already notified him of his nominations.

And here's a barnstar for constant participation in VfD's (i.e. the Joder dicdef, my idea, ha ha) and in RfA's. You are an outstanding Wikipedian. D. J. Bracey (talk) 07:34, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

About the oppose votes

Because I had already tried Radiant's talk page, and I had already tried the talk page of the poll, and I prefer not to edit war, and RFCs call for first two people to discuss the issue with the user in question, and I have not been less patient than Radiant, what would you suggest? Maurreen (talk) 07:06, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

RfA

Thank you for supporting my RfA. I will do my best to serve the Misplaced Pages community as an administrator. Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk 20:22, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Re:Coolcat and "Joder" again

It looks like he'll lose. BTW, I made the entire article on Spanish Profanity There are already articles similar to this (i.e. Quebec French profanity). Thus, I see no reason this one couldn't survive. Take care, D. J. Bracey (talk) 20:51, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

ADV Films cat CfD

I think you just emptied Category:ADV Films original movies and series, but you didn't recat the articles in it toward Category:ADV Films. I think this should be done, as per similar case Category:Gainax. Is there any way to get the list of items previously listed in Category:ADV Films original movies and series so that it's easier to recat them as Category:ADV Films? I was in the middle of doing this. —Tarnas 00:19, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Category titles

I believe this kind of discussion is useful, but the present one has raised a number of questions regarding procedure, and I was rather dismayed to hear that there had been a similar discussion half a year ago that none of us had been aware of. As such, it may be useful to have a centralized page (like RFC) for these things. I've set up a rough draft at Misplaced Pages:Standards, and would like your opinion on it. Its current wording could probably use some heavy revision (feel free to do so).

At the very least, there should be a central place for archiving and searching for these debates (the Manual of style comes to mind, but it is very unclear which parts of it have actual support and which parts were just arbitrarily put together). I personally believe that having standards is rather pointless if they're not enforceable, but that is especially an issue I'd like more opinions on. Radiant_>|< 08:07, August 9, 2005 (UTC)

Func's edit count.

Splash, I just got into an edit conflict with you on a vandal's talk page. Our beloved User:Func has been copied by a vandal, User:Funс. Note the differences in the URLs; you'll also see that the contributions for the real Func are as they should be. I went ahead and took out your message to the real Func, since it was on the vandal's talk page. Hope you don't mind. The Literate Engineer 15:18, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Godmode

Thanks for the heads up. Unfortunately I had to pester sam a bit, but it worked! =) Also, I created somewhat of a autocopyvio, in case you're curious. Still working the kinks out though. -- BMIComp (talk, HOWS MY DRIVING) 22:54, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Revert on Misplaced Pages:Votes_for_deletion/SimCentral

Hey. Any reason you reverted my thoughts on the sockpuppets in Misplaced Pages:Votes_for_deletion/SimCentral? I thought I'd raised a good point, but I didn't just want to go re-adding it for the simple reason that that would make me a jerk. I'd still like to hear what you thought the problem was so I don't do it again, though. Lord Bob 05:43, August 10, 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, that was an accident combined with a genuine revert. I've fixed my mistake, and replied on your talk page. -Splash 07:19, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

That would do it! Thanks for the quick reply. Lord Bob 07:26, August 10, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your support

Thank you for voting to support my RFA. I've been promoted, and I promise to wield the mop with good faith, patience, and fairness... except when I'm exterminating vandals with the M-16 recoilless nuclear Gatling mop. --malathion 07:48, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Func's RfA :)

Splash, thank you very much for your vote on my RfA! :) Whichever timezone you move to, make sure Evil Monkey doesn't live there...then you will have no fun whatsoever on NP/RC patrol! ;-)

Please never hesitate to let me know if you have concerns with any administrative action I may make.

Func( t, c, e,  ) 18:28, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Schools

Please see Misplaced Pages:Votes for deletion/Duveneck School (2nd Nom.). This is an equally non-notable school in Palo Alto, CA. Gateman1997 19:04, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

• To Sacred Heart School and King Middle School which I believe you also voted to delete on being non-notable.Gateman1997 19:09, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
  • I wouldn't classify it as a cabal. Fair enough though, sorry to have intruded :) Gateman1997 19:14, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

57 minutes later....

...and they're off: . These pages are on my watchlist too, sadly. Re-protect? Warn them on talk pages? Just generally <sigh>? -Splash 19:53, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Please use your judgement, but my opinion is that the anonymous IP has simply removed the following disputed, apparently unsourced statements:

• According to public policy of the W.G.K.F., any school that rejects techniques or kata from this book (Shin Karatedo Kyohan) is not doing Genseiryu.
• However, this is among many considered to be a false document not written by Shukumine sensei himself. The original document in Japanese has never been produced.

If someone else things they should go back there and can give a source to support them then I'll be interested to see what happens next. This seems to be a perfectly normal editing process so far. --Tony Sidaway 20:40, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

WP:CFD

Thanks for bringing the backlog to my attention. Pearle is now grinding through the listings. -- Beland 21:16, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Great thanks! -Splash 21:19, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Thank yew

The-artist-formerly-know-as-Amorrow : Thanks for you attempt to give me a heads up the screw job that Xaa and Nunh-huh had in store for me. You did not succeed in informing me of what was going on because you failed to point me to

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Amorrow_and_Elizabeth_Morgan

where the teenagers were panic-stricken by my surrealistist musings. Xaa was "scared away". Right. He was scared to be shown in front of his friends that his logic is weak. You and I both know that he is a manipulative guy and, in his own right, a pathetic stalker who hunted down my work (OOOPS. so sorry. "The page I created". Some of you guys are picky about that, until YOU want to do something. Maybe it was those two guys. I mostly just ignored y'all, with those two are touble-makers running around) and vfd'ed without so much as a how-de-doo to me. I do not care if my visions were Apolcalyptic (i.e. from the book from the Bible) or silly or even anatomically impossible or what. I never thought of it as "performance art", but maybe it was. You know what they did.

I mean, half the user pages have a list of "my pages" on 'em. But Amorrow could not call them that with those two creeps around.

It is quite one thing to be baiting someone with silly scolding (in the proper style of an old lady) or correcting flawed logic or whatnot, but those creeps were undoing work I did and when I resisted, then simply yelled "Gotcha!" then "get him!".

Well, I am still around, of course. amorrow@earthlink.net to you. Geni's got it in for me and is as mute as a statue, but we will see.

I am assuming that the Latin on you user page is not decoration. Could you do me a favor? Could you check and correct my (am I allow to at least call that "my translation?" huh?)Latin translation in Dies_Irae_Word_By_Word. Thank yew.