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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on May 19

• ... that despite weighing little more than a pound (454 grams), the Dutch Bantam breed of chicken can lay more than 160 eggs in a year? Self-nom VanTucky 21:02, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that on September 23, 1868, the Revolutionary Committee of Puerto Rico led a revolt in the city of Lares, Puerto Rico, declaring it the "Republic of Puerto Rico"? (self nom) --Grimlight (talk) 20:00, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
  • (alternate) ... that on September 23, 1868, the Revolutionary Committee of Puerto Rico led a revolt in the city of Lares, Puerto Rico, in what became known as "El Grito de Lares" (The Cry of Lares)? (self nom) --Grimlight (talk) 20:00, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that Narciso Bassols as Secretariat of Public Education founded Mexico's first systematic sex education program? (self nom) --Grimlight (talk) 19:57, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that, according to one account, after Thomas Attwood accused fellow composer Charles Edward Horn of plagiarizing a song, Horn helped clear himself in court by singing his version and that of Attwood's? Self-nom. BuddingJournalist 19:18, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Terry Cole-Whittaker, a former Mrs. California pageant winner, later took a fifty-member church in San Diego from 50 to several thousand members? self-nom by John Carter (talk) 18:50, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that "Uncommon Sense" by Hal Clement received a Hugo Award for Best Short Story 51 years after it was first published? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by GDallimore (Talk) 18:36, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that when the younger members of the Adonai-Shomo commune sued to gain ownership of part of the commune's property, they found that the money gained from selling all the land barely covered the group's debts and legal fees? self-nom by John Carter (talk) 17:57, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that Action Hyacinth was an operation of the Polish communist police, carried out in the years 1985–1987, whose purpose was to create national database of Polish homosexuals? self-nom by Tymek (talk) 17:19, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that along with the existing Maharajbagh zoo, Nagpur city will have a new safari park at Gorewada Lake? --gppande «talk» 14:57, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that the Virginia Tech Hokies defeated the Louisville Cardinals 35–24 in the 2006 Gator Bowl, an American college football bowl game held on January 2, 2006? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by JKBrooks85 (talk) 07:42, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that future Admiral Sir John Moore, 1st Baronet (pictured) joined the Royal Navy when he was just 11 years old? - self nom, new article, Benea (talk) 00:28, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that security expert Dan Kaminsky demonstrated a security vulnerability by setting up Rickrolls on Facebook and PayPal? self-nom. JoshuaZ (talk) 01:23, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that some of the fingers of Grand Duke Sergei Alexandrovich of Russia, still with rings on them, were found in a building of the Kremlin?. self nom Miguelemejia (talk • contribs) 01:19, 19 May 2008
• ... that Bob Chatt is credited with scoring the fastest ever FA Cup Final goal from kick-off in 30 seconds for Aston Villa in 1895? self nom --Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 12:24, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that the Catalan municipality of Alcanar was a part of Ulldecona for 301 years, before gaining independence in 1449? (self nomination) weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 14:43, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that Len Boyd, captain of Birmingham City F.C. in the 1950s, once played four games with a fractured leg? -- article expanded many-fold and self-nom Struway2 (talk) 14:59, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Monroe News Star, a Gannett publication in Monroe, Louisiana, was formerly part of the Ewing family newspaper chain?--self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 18:53, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Ken Curtis, former Gunsmoke star, made his final acting appearance as an aging rancher in the 1991 western film Conagher, costarring Sam Elliott and Katharine Ross? --self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 20:27, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 18

• ... that communal reservations in Tamil Nadu were first introduced by the government of the Raja of Panagal in August 1921? - expanded five-fold and self-nominated by -Ravichandar_{My coffee shop} 16:49, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the FC Schalke 04 won the Gauliga Westfalen in every of its eleven seasons from 1933 to 1944? New article created on 18 May and self-nom by EA210269 (talk) 07:16, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Russian writer and activist Zoya Krakhmalnikova’s baptism in 1971 resulted in her dismissal from her job and from the USSR Union of Writers, which effectively banned her from publishing? -- new article by Scanlan (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 05:23, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that California v. Byers was the 1971 Supreme Court decision holding that providing your information in a vehicle accident does not violate the privilege against self-incrimination under the Fifth Amendment? self-nom. Legis Nuntius (talk) 23:53, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Society for the Protection of Ancient Buildings were surprised to learn of the existence of Buckland Windmill (pictured), the only wind saw mill in the United Kingdom? New article created on 18 May and self-nom by Mjroots (talk) 21:45, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Brixton windmill (pictured) has not worked by wind since the 1860s? New article created on May 18 and self-nom by Mjroots (talk) 20:53, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Thomas Jefferson Ramsdell (pictured) built the opera house where James Earl Jones started his career? New article, self-nominated by --Doug 19:44, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... the Rotunda Museum (pictured) houses one of the foremost collections of Jurassic geology on the Yorkshire Coast? -- new article by Harkey Lodger; Nom by Keith D (talk) 19:35, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Ernie Fletcher became the first Republican Governor of Kentucky in 32 years after winning the 2003 Kentucky gubernatorial election? self-nom Davewild (talk) 18:55, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the 12th-century All Saints Church, Patcham (pictured), largely unchanged since the 14th century, was rebuilt or restored four times in a 74-year period from 1824? ~ Self-nom. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 18:09, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Frieze of Parnassus on the Albert Memorial was inspired by Hippolyte Delaroche's Hémicycle des Beaux Arts? (self-nom) Carcharoth (talk) 14:32, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Sorry for the long note, but this is a bit of an unorthodox entry. I was working on this in userspace, so technically it meets the five day criterion (I moved it into article space today), previously (see page history here) it failed the length criterion, but thanks to User:Johnbod (please give him credit as well if this entry is used), it is now 2562 characters, and may increase further. The frieze pictures are the wrong shape for DYK, but a crop could be made of one of the more famous figures if someone wants to do this. Carcharoth (talk) 15:09, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the influence of the Gulf Stream on the climate of Northern Ireland gives the landscape of Northern Ireland (pictured) its green colour? (self-nom, moved from my sandbox today - other hook choices are possible within the article) EJF (talk) 13:33, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Jewish War Veterans of the United States of America, represented by the American Civil Liberties Union, were plantiffs in a lawsuits seeking the removal of the Mount Soledad cross? (self-nom) Neutrality 03:50, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

I removed the image, because it is a non-free, which we can't use here. --BorgQueen (talk) 05:46, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Troubled Island is an opera about the Haitian revolution leader Jean-Jacques Dessalines, who crowned himself emperor after independence was declared? (self-nom) Ecoleetage (talk) 21:57, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Section of Painting and Sculpture, a New Deal federal art program operated by the United States Department of the Treasury, commissioned more than 1300 murals and 300 sculptures, most of which were placed in U.S. post offices? (self-nom --JohnPomeranz (talk) 22:07, 18 May 2008 (UTC))

• ... that Buck Taylor, who has starred in more than fifty films is still best recognized for his portrayal as gunsmith-turned-deputy Newly O'Brien on the last eight seasons of CBS's long-running Gunsmoke western series?--self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 03:49, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

OR

... that actor Buck Taylor, though he still appears in mostly western films, is also a prolific artist of the American West? --self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 03:54, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

OR

... that actor-artist Buck Taylor recently painted a portrait of his friend and former Gunsmoke costar James Arness?-self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 03:54, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 17

• ... that the supreme god of the southern African Bushmen is Cagn, a trickster who shapeshifts into a praying mantis? -- new article self-nom by BelovedFreak 20:40, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that Yolngu aboriginal leader, linguist and cultural advocate Raymattja Marika was Northern Territory's Australian of the Year in 2006? -- new article by Scanlan (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 05:46, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the ancient Greek city of Psophis was said to have been originally called Erymanthus, and its territory to have been ravaged by the Erymanthian Boar, a creature captured in the fourth Labour of Hercules? -- new article by Fordmadoxfraud (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 05:36, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that 19th century English architect John Foulston was responsible for the construction of Union Street across marshland to unite the Three Towns which were merged a century later to become Plymouth? -- new article by Smalljim (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 05:59, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Mary Shelley's (pictured) contributions to Lives of the Most Eminent Literary and Scientific Men are early works of feminist historiography? (self-nom) Awadewit (talk) 22:20, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the accolade (pictured) was a ceremony for knighthood in the Middle Ages which today means praise or an award? --Doug 23:08, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

→Another Brighton & Hove church with three possible hooks:

• ... that most of the interior of the 19th-century St Patrick's Church, Hove has been rebuilt as a 22-bed night shelter which includes "MiPods", a variation on the 1970s "sleep capsule" concept?
• ... that the extent to which music was used in services in the early years at St Patrick's Church, Hove led to it being referred to mockingly as "Paddy's Music Hall"?
• ... that the north window at St Patrick's Church, Hove—a memorial to its first curate, Dr James O'Brien, and his wife—was installed 14 years before they died?

Self-nom. I don't know if the ref is good for the first (it's to the shelter's charity's own website), although it's very interesting! The second is relatively unexciting. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 23:05, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that an April Fool's Day "news story" which talked about bull sharks in Minnehaha Creek drew almost 1,000 hits per day to the Nokomis East Neighborhood Association's website? new article

• ALT: ... that the Nokomis East Neighborhood Association hosts a 'Night Before New Year's Eve Party' on December 30th, with a new year's countdown at 8:00 pm? new article/nom by BobAmnertiopsis_{ChitChat Me!} 22:51, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that County Route S18 is one of four county routes in Orange County, California? In fact, the Santiago Canyon Road segment of CR S18 is considered of being promoted to a scenic highway. Self nomination Dabbydabby (talk) 21:58, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

  Not a five-fold expansion in last five days. (was 3,800 bytes now is 13379 bytes = 3.52x) Thingg 17:38, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

  • Not a five-fold expansion in last five days. (But once again we don't count the whole article. But 3606/1594=2.48x isn't enough either.) Art LaPella (talk) 19:07, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

    • How about now? Currently, the whole article size is 16,073 bytes. Dabbydabby (talk) 19:59, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

    It probably won't be used (yet). Once again, we don't count the whole article; we only count "prose". For more details see #Instructions. 5231/1594=3.28. Art LaPella (talk) 22:55, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

    Well I've added in all I can about CR S18. I've pulled out every internet source I could find. If this still isn't enough for the five fold, oh well... I'll just find another article to work on later. Dabbydabby (talk) 02:24, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the widespread Hylocomium splendens (glittering wood-moss, pictured) has anti-bacterial qualities? New article by Ben MacDui (talk · contribs), nominated by EncycloPetey (talk) 20:39, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
  • (alt. hook) ... that it is possible to estimate the age of a Stair-step Moss (Hylocomium splendens, pictured) by counting the number of "steps"? --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:44, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that Captain Richard Whitaker Porritt was the first British Member of Parliament to be killed in World War II? (self-nom)Kernel Saunters (talk) 19:38, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Many sources claim the first British MP to be killed in World War II was actually Ronald Cartland. The dates don't match, but there is a confusion because Cartland was originally posted missing and his death was not confirmed until January 1941. Sam Blacketer (talk) 21:52, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
    • The official sources (CWGC) have Porritt as dying on 26th May and Cartland on the 30th. What sources do you have that state Cartland died earlier than the 26th May? Kernel Saunters (talk) 22:02, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
      • Oh, none; as I said the dates don't match. But I do know plenty of sources saying that Cartland was the first MP to die in World War II. Sam Blacketer (talk) 22:16, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
        • I'll add that info to the articles on the lines that whilst some sources have Cartland as the first death, official sources (and others) have Porritt as the actual first as per WP:common sense Kernel Saunters (talk) 22:22, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Oladevi is worshiped as the Goddess of Cholera by both the Hindus and Muslims of Bengal and may have originated in the Indus Valley Civilization? Vishnava (talk) 19:00, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Haridas was the last completed film of Kollywood icon M. K. Thyagaraja Bhagavathar prior to his arrest in the Lakshmikanthan Murder Case? - self-nom by -Ravichandar_{My coffee shop} 15:40, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Caetano Veloso went through a long, involved design process to create the minimalist cover for his 2006 album cê? new article, self-nom. --Kakofonous (talk) 15:11, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the châtelaine of Lissan House, Hazel Dolling always kept a chainsaw in the boot of her car while driving, in case trees had fallen on her mile-long avenue? (self-nom, moved from my sandbox today) EJF (talk) 13:26, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the two-inch tall people of the Teenie Weenies (pictured) were a Chicago Tribune comic strip written by William Donahey for over 50 years? Double DYK submisssion, each article expanded 5 fold, by --Doug 12:44, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• A few suggestions:
  • ... that the Northern Irish marilyn Slieve Gallion is a volcanic plug?
  • or ... that the Northern Irish marilyn Slieve Gallion is the eastern limit of the Sperrins range?
  • or ... that peat formed at the Northern Irish marilyn Slieve Gallion in the early Holocene period? (self-nom, moved from my sandbox today) EJF (talk) 10:53, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Reigate Heath Windmill (pictured) is the only windmill in the world that has been consecrated as a church? New article created on 17 May and self-nom by Mjroots (talk) 10:12, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that film director Goran Dukić chose only songs by musicians who had committed suicide to accompany his 2006 film Wristcutters: A Love Story, set in an afterworld reserved for suicide victims? (self-nom) —97198 talk 06:00, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service paid for the establishment of Muscatatuck National Wildlife Refuge, along the Muscatatuck River, by selling waterfowl stamps? (self-nom)--Bedford 05:46, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Henriade, an epic poem by French Enlightenment writer Voltaire, was written in honour of the life of Henry IV of France? (slef) -- Anonymous Dissident 03:31, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Colored Soldiers Monument (pictured) in Frankfort, Kentucky is the only one dedicated to black Union soldiers in Kentucky, and only one of four in the United States? (self-nom)--Bedford 01:05, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the game fish the Atlantic bumper is only found in the Atlantic Ocean because its ecological niche is filled by the only other member of its genus elsewhere? selfnom Ryan shell (talk) 16:38, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Page Cortez, a Republican member of the Louisiana House of Representatives, gained vital name recognition in part from television ads promoting his furniture store?--self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 21:00, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Margie (ABC, 1961–1962) is one of the few network programs set during the Roaring Twenties, complete with jalopies, raccoon coats, period music, and references to flappers?--self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 03:38, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Needs template:cite web in referencing or something other than just URLs. Also, reference 4 needs a concrete source so that anyone can find it. gren グレン 05:12, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that the actress Cynthia Pepper, who appeared in the film Kissin Cousins with Elvis Presley, years later discussed Presley's career in two television documentaries in 2002 and 2003?-- self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 20:00, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

OR

• ... that dancer Jack Pepper, the father of actress Cynthia Pepper, was previously married to Ginger Rogers?--self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 20:00, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

OR

• ... that actress Cynthia Pepper's first recurring role in a television series was as Jean Pearson, the girlfriend of the chracter "Mike Douglas", played by Tim Considine, in ABC's My Three Sons?--self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 20:00, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 16

• ... that Bolton Hall (pictured), the community center for a Utopian community formed in 1913 in the foothills north of Los Angeles, was later used as a jail? new article, self nom. by Cbl62 (talk) 15:13, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Sir William Edge, a Liberal MP, once raced against a flock of homing pigeons from London to Leicestershire by car and train, but lost the race by two minutes because the train was delayed? ~ Article by Graham Lippiatt; nominated by Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 11:41, 19 May 2008 (UTC).

• ... that Kosa Pan (pictured) led the Siamese Embassy to France in the 1680s? -- two new articles by PHG (talk · contribs), double-nom. by PFHLai (talk) 05:07, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Fidler Point on Lake Athabasca is named for Peter Fidler, a map-maker, fur trader and explorer who worked for the Hudson's Bay Company? -- new article by KenWalker (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 15:12, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Harvard Japanologist Susan Pharr was recently awarded the Order of the Rising Sun by the Japanese government? -- new article by Tenmei (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 15:21, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Juniper Valley Park in New York City used to be a swamp owned by Arnold Rothstein, who in the 1920s tried to sell it to the city for use as an airport? -- new article by Tenmei (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 15:33, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that at 1,222.2 metres (4,010 ft) altitude Finse Station is the highest station on the Norwegian rail network? self-nom Arsenikk 19:37, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

  Too short. 1100 characters. Thingg 22:31, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

There are few more days to expand the article. --PFHLai (talk) 02:51, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that British Conservative MP Alan Gomme-Duncan, despite being a strong unionist, did not want the Stone of Scone returned to Westminster Abbey after Scottish nationalists stole it in 1951? (self-nomination) Sam Blacketer (talk) 19:19, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that cystatin C (pictured) is a human protein studied as a biomarker of decreased kidney function and prognosis in cardiovascular diseases? Self nom (expanded > five-fold, previous version also had big chunk of automatically inserted text). --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 00:34, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that Republican Monty Warner called on his Democratic rival Joe Manchin to endorse George Bush for re-election during the 2004 West Virginia gubernatorial election? Self nom Davewild (talk) 12:08, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the colonial ghost town of Brunswick, North Carolina (pictured) was named after Braunschweig, Germany, the birthplace of Great Britain's King George I? (self-nom) APK 07:36, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• Refs check out, as does expansion, citation and all. BobAmnertiopsis_{ChitChat Me!} 02:19, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Nathan Daboll wrote the mathematics textbook most commonly used in American schools during the first half of the 19th century? -- new article self-nom by Rosiestep (talk) 05:10, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that a 12th century epigraph styles the Mahadeva temple (pictured) in Karnataka, India, as "The emperor among temples"?(self nom)Dineshkannambadi (talk) 02:27, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Alternate hook:
  • ... that the 12th century Mahadeva temple (pictured) is considered one of the finest monuments in Karnataka state, India?Dineshkannambadi (talk) 02:27, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Which article? Please mark the DYK article in bold. Also, include a note pointing to the picture you have included. Thus, it should look like this:

• ... that a 12th century epigraph styles the Mahadeva temple (pictured) in Karnataka, India, as "The emperor among temples"? The359 (talk) 04:33, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• Done.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 14:04, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the forced removal of 700,000 people from slums in Zimbabwe in 2005 was called "a crime against humanity" by the UN? I'm an Editorofthewiki 01:30, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that in addition to ballistics, the ballistic pendulum was also used by physicists to evaluate the elasticity and flight of golf balls? -- expanded 5x, self nominated by scot (talk) 21:37, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Indo-Iraqi relations improved considerably after Iraq supported India's 1998 nuclear tests and its stand on the Kashmir dispute? Vishnava (talk) 17:34, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Coalición Obrera, Campesina, Estudiantil del Istmo (COCEI) was the first elected socialist municipal government in Mexico? (self-nom) --Grimlight (talk) 16:17, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
  • (alternate) ... that the Coalition of Workers, Peasants, and Students of the Isthmus (COCEI) was the first elected socialist municipal government in Mexico? (self-nom) --Grimlight (talk) 16:17, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Seaway Trail Discovery Center is one of the few attractions in the North Country, New York, that is open year-round? -- new article self-nom by _{TravellingCari} 15:50, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that a large part of the first vintage from the Spanish winery Dominio de Pingus was lost in 1997 when the transporting ship bound for the United States disappeared somewhere off the Azores in the North Atlantic Ocean? -- new article self-nom by MURGH 15:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that in 1882, German mathematician Friedrich Heinrich Albert Wangerin was appointed to the chair of ordinary professor at the University of Halle-Wittenberg, after that chair fell vacant because of the death of Eduard Heine, the former teacher of Wangerin? (self-nom) Masterpiece2000 (talk) 14:33, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• 217 character hook. "... that in 1882, German mathematician Friedrich Heinrich Albert Wangerin was appointed to the chair of ordinary professor at the University of Halle-Wittenberg after the chair was vacated by the death of Eduard Heine, Wangerin’s former teacher?" is 205 characters. If no other ways of shortening the hook can be found, removing his two middle names would bring it under 200 characters. Thingg 15:51, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• No, bringing it under 200 would take more than that because we include spaces when counting (see #Instructions). The first hook, for example, is 256 characters not 217. Art LaPella (talk) 21:43, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

*bangs head on wall* Thingg 22:42, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Alternative:

... that German mathematician Friedrich Heinrich Albert Wangerin wrote an important two volume treatise on potential theory and spherical functions, Theorie des Potentials und der Kugelfunktionen, in 1909 and 1921? Masterpiece2000 (talk) 06:03, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that, after more than one hundred editors supported his request for adminship, prolific DYK contributor User:Gatoclass has finally been made an administrator?
  • Thought this would be an appropriate way of bringing it to attention, even though it can't go on the main page! Bencherlite 10:18, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• Yay! BobAmnertiopsis_{ChitChat Me!} 11:13, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• That looks like a pretty reliable source to me! Thanks guys, couldn't have done it without you :) Gatoclass (talk) 11:45, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Why can't it go on the main page? It's long enough and the ref checks out! (lol) Mjroots (talk) 14:42, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

I've bolded the RFA instead of the log ;). Mjroots (talk) 14:46, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that after a chest injury, air can escape from the lungs and travel to the subcutaneous tissue of the skin, causing subcutaneous emphysema (pictured)? Self nom, moved from userspace today. By some bizarre cooincidence, Antelan created a stub a few days ago, so I histmerged them (but this is way over 5x the size, so could count as expansion instead). 5 alternate images available. delldot talk 06:50, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that a Confederate scouting party entered Indiana in June 1863 dressed as an Union army patrol searching for deserters? (self-nom)--Bedford 03:59, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Created this article especially to mark my 100th DYK.--Bedford 03:59, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Congrats on your 100th DYK (to be)! That is truly mind blowing. Minor thing: wouldn't it be "a Union Army patrol"? delldot talk 12:52, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, although I figured out last night that my 100th will actually be the Indiana State Parks one, which is suitable for 100 as well (I should have accredited myself with one I didn't.)--Bedford 15:55, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that in its 118 year history, the heritage listed Victoria Hotel (pictured in 1897) in Darwin, Australia, has survived three major cyclones, Japanese air raids during WW2, and a soldiers' riot? (self-nom) Spy007au (talk) 02:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Samuel B. Huston (pictured) switched counties and political parties between two elections to the Oregon State Senate? (self) Aboutmovies (talk) 22:34, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that John George Adair in 1861 evicted some 150 poor tenants from their houses near his Glenveagh Castle in County Donegal, Ireland, to enhance the scenic beauty of the land?-- self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 22:41, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Polish-Russian relations really began with the Polish-Lithuanian union of Lublin in the 16th century, which marked the beginning of centuries of struggle over dominance of Central and Eastern Europe between Poland and Russia? --self-nom by _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 23:36, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment Relations between Poland and Russia are recorded from the 10th century. So how can such a thing be stated as a fact? Can you find a more concrete factual hook? Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 03:53, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
    • This hook is based on a statement by a historian (footnoted in the article). It is also not controversial (like a hook noting the importance of Polish capture of Moscow or Katyn invasion would be) or banal (as a hook stating the relations are important and suffer from ups and downs would be). Perhaps instead of "really began" we could write "took on a new importance" or something like that to indicate that yes, there were relations since 10th century, but they were not as crucial? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 19:47, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
      • I can find a similar statement in the source, but not the article. It is not controversial in the sense that it probably won't piss anyone off, but you can tell yourself it is could be misleading unless one follows the sources narrative with a great deal of insight. Not as crucial? I dunno. Several branches of the Riurikids greatly relied on Polish kinship links for their power in Rus, it was common for Rus' princes to pay the Polish king to act as a mercenary captain in the 11th century, regimes changed in Rus through this Polish intervention, the Rus put down a rebellion among the Mazovians, and one interpretation of a passage in the Byzantine De Administrando Imperio has the 10th century Poles as tributaries of the Rus. Less controversial than "really began with the" would be "entered a new era". I don't like this kind of assertion in DYKs - prefer concrete things - but this at least avoids some of the problems with the first suggestion.:) Regards, Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 03:41, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

I think the hook could probably be fixed just by substituting "intensified" for "really began". Gatoclass (talk) 04:06, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

"Intensified" or "entered a new era" sound fine to me.--_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 20:37, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Many Happy Returns (CBS sitcom, 1964–1965) featured character actor John McGiver managing the complaint division of a fictitious California department store?--self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 03:20, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Blonde lace, while made with the same stitches as Chantilly lace, was made out of two different thicknesses of thread to create greater contrast between the pattern and the ground? (other suggestions wlecome...) self nom, new article Loggie (talk) 13:36, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 15

• ... that during World War I, a torpedo struck the ocean liner SS Kroonland (pictured) without exploding? -- new article by Bellhalla (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 15:45, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• (alt.hook)... that Wallace Stevens was inspired to write the poem "Sea Surface Full Of Clouds" after a trip to the Gulf and Isthmus of Tehuantepec aboard the ocean liner SS Kroonland (pictured)? -- new article by Bellhalla (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 15:47, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the game between FC Bayern Munich and 1860 Munich on 23 April 1945 in the Gauliga Bayern, ending 3–2, was the last official football game played in Nazi Germany? New article and self-nom, EA210269 (talk) 07:22, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... the Tamil film Chandralekha had the longest sword-fight sequence in any Indian film? -self-nom by -Ravichandar_{My coffee shop} 17:56, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• Getting a page error on that ref. Gatoclass (talk) 16:08, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the "City of Angels" has 186 buildings, districts, ships and other sites listed on the U.S. National Register of Historic Places? Joint self-nom: Doncram, Cbl162, KudzuVine

Alternative: ... that the city of Los Angeles has 186 buildings, districts, ships and other sites listed on the U.S. National Register of Historic Places?

Alternative, shorter: ... that the City of Los Angeles has 186 sites listed on the National Register of Historic Places?

Note: As a brand-new list-table of NRHP sites, we think this is unusual for a DYK. Most such list-tables are developed slowly. The table and most content is new; the untabulated list of site names only appeared previously within a county-wide, unverified list. The table includes many red-links, due to its nature, but note that it is a comprehensive list and it has more than 50 pictures rounded up already. We prefer not to start stub articles for each of the sites covered; the blue-links are to mostly Start-level articles. The intro text is about 1300 characters at this moment, and will be increased to 1500 in the next day or so, just to ensure that the article qualifies for DYK. doncram (talk) 04:59, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

The article itself needs a rename. City of Angels is not really encyclopedic. Just say "in Los Angeles"... --Jayron32.talk.contribs 05:02, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Article renamed per comment here and other discussion. I struck out original nom and the alternative DYK wording, above, is now preferred. doncram (talk) 20:03, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Equality North Carolina was successful in getting the 2008 edition of the State Personnel manual to prohibit discrimination based on sexuality and gender identity? Self-nom. Winnifred-Ian-Leonard-Harry-Ellen-Lucy-Marilyn-Ingrid-Nora-Amanda Walter-Ira-Lauren-Lalla (talk) 00:31, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Please be reminded that a DYK article needs to have at least 1500 characters of prose to qualify. Equality North Carolina is currently too short, but there is ample time to expand the article before this nomination expires. --PFHLai (talk) 22:24, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Is it better now? The ''Gorgeous Girl''!!! (talk) 00:39, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

The article is 4076 bytes long, at the time I write this posting, and it is mainly taken up by context. Is the article long enough for Did You Know? yet? The ''Gorgeous Girl''!!! (talk) 02:36, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• Yes, it's long enough now, although it's 1973 bytes as we count them; see #Instructions. Art LaPella (talk) 04:18, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

So does this mean it's accepted? The ''Gorgeous Girl''!!! (talk) 20:23, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• Yes, 1973 bytes is accepted as long enough. Others will soon inspect citations and other details. Art LaPella (talk) 22:55, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Length and reference verified. Wikified relevant words in hook.

• ... that the town of Melattur in Tamil Nadu, India is famous for its Bhagavathar Melas and an unique style of Bharatanatyam which is practised here? - (increased five-fold) self-nom by -Ravichandar_{My coffee shop} 11:46, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 21:05, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the only items found in the burial chamber of the Pyramid of Neferefre upon excavation were mummy fragments and broken canopic jars? (self nom) - Icewedge (talk) 03:46, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 21:03, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Welsh Tractarian priest John David Jenkins was known as the "Rail men's Apostle" for his ministry to railway workers, and became President of the Amalgamated Society of Railway Servants? new/self-nom. Bencherlite 00:05, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Source links to wrong Welsh biography page. Daniel Case (talk) 21:02, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Indiana's state parks were initially designed more to preserve their natural state than to provide recreational activities? (self-nom)--Bedford 23:59, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

• Yup. Gatoclass (talk) 16:23, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Mary Roos represented Germany twice in the Eurovision Song Contest and took part in the German national final for the competition another three times? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Euro Mok (talk • contribs) 22:32, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Livermore Bridge is believed to be the only bridge in the world that starts and ends in the same county, yet passes over two rivers and a different county? (self-nom)--Bedford 20:35, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

But the article states 'It is believed to be the only bridge on Earth that begins and ends in the same county, crosses over two rivers (Green River and the Rough River, and passes over an entirely different county.' - implying the bridge is unique because it crosses all of these different things. At most it can only be said to claim that "'It is believed to be the only bridge in the world that starts and ends in the same county" - Benea (talk) 22:30, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Could we change the hook to read "it is probably the only bridge in the world..."? I'm not sure if hooks can be like that, but if it is allowed, I think it would be really cool to put that on the Main Page because I'm sure a lot of people would read it. Thingg 22:43, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

I changed the hook; how does it look?--Bedford 23:59, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Looks good! nice find. Thingg 16:04, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. It was indeed a nice find; I only found it due to being lost bewildered while traveling last Saturday.--Bedford 23:21, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

The placement of the comma and "yet" is ambiguous and could be misleading to readers here, because of the divide it creates in the sentence; as it reads now, it's unclear what the "only bridge in the world" definition comprises. I'd suggest just gutting the "only bridge in the world" part and using: ... that the Livermore Bridge starts and ends in the same county, yet passes over two rivers and a different county? I think the hook would still be quite interesting. BuddingJournalist 00:34, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the new Maoist-led government seeks to scrap Nepal's 1950 treaty with India, which sought to build strong Indo-Nepal relations to counter perceived threats from China? Expanded article - Vishnava (talk) 19:01, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Verified length, date and ref. —SusanLesch (talk) 18:46, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that English musician and composer Charles Frederick Horn served as personal music tutor to Queen Charlotte? BuddingJournalist 18:50, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Verified length, date and that ref exists. —SusanLesch (talk) 18:42, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Woodhouse Grove School is a Methodist Church founded Independent School near Bradford in England and is an independent day and boarding school founded in 1812 for children between the ages of three and eighteen? Much expanded article (self nom) 21stCenturyGreenstuff (talk) 17:31, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Which article? The359 (talk) 18:18, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

I assume its the Woodhouse Grove School, but it doesn't look like this is a five-fold expansion within the last five days. BuddingJournalist 19:38, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

It does appear to be the Woodhouse article. I think it's skirting the edge of the 5-day rule (21stCenturyGreenstuff's edits to this article began on May 9th, but he really only reached 5x expansion today). However, the hook used here is poorly worded and uninteresting. It presents no unique factoid other than saying exactly what the school is. The359 (talk) 21:26, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that international airport project MIHAN, Nagpur is the biggest economical development project currently underway in India in terms of investment? --gppande «talk» 16:28, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 13:57, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Pickle Barrel House (pictured) is a two story cabin built in 1926 based on the comic strip of the Teenie Weenies that featured tiny people in a real world setting? Five fold expansion of article (self-nom) by --Doug 15:38, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

• ALT ... that the Pickle Barrel House (pictured) is a cabin built of two large barrels and is based on comic strip people that were two inches tall that lived under a rose bush in a pickle barrel? (self-nom) by --Doug 17:35, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
• ALT ... that the Pickle Barrel House (pictured) is a cabin built of two large barrels and is based on comic strip people that were two inches tall?--Doug 13:12, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 13:55, 19 May 2008 (UTC

• ... that erotic sculptures (example pictured) found in the 11th century Tripurantaka Temple in Karnataka state, India, are considered rare in Chalukyan art?(self nom)Dineshkannambadi (talk) 19:25, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

• Who nominated this? BuddingJournalist 18:50, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Verified length, date and that book ref exists. Added pictured text to hook in case you need one. —SusanLesch (talk) 18:38, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Wallingford Tornado of 1878 was the deadliest tornado in Connecticut history, and the second deadliest ever to strike New England? - new article, self nom, RunningOnBrains 04:04, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Verified length, date and that book ref exists. —SusanLesch (talk) 18:29, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that sociology in Poland was banned as a bourgeois science by the Polish communist government in the Stalinist period 1948–1956? --self-nom by _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 19:49, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Length 5x since 14 May when article started. Ref also verified. —SusanLesch (talk) 18:26, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the JA Ranch, which once encompassed 1,335,000 acres and 100,000 head of cattle in six counties, is the oldest working ranch in the Texas Panhandle and still owned by heirs of its founder?-- self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 00:48, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Cited source for ranch size 404s; other one doesn't have a footnote. Daniel Case (talk) 13:50, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Henry Failing (pictured), one of the most prominent businessmen in the early days of Portland, Oregon, was elected to his second term as mayor of that city with only five dissenting votes? -- self nom Pete (talk)

• (alt.hook for simplicity)... that Henry Failing (pictured) was elected to his second term as mayor of Portland, Oregon with only five dissenting votes? --PFHLai (talk) 22:21, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Length and reference verified. Let's use the second hook. Daniel Case (talk) 13:48, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Michael Anderson, Jr., and Barbara Hershey won Western Heritage Awards for their work on The Monroes, an ABC family series which ran only twenty-six weeks in the 1966–1967 season?-- self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 04:23, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

IMdB isn't an acceptable source for this sort of thing. Daniel Case (talk) 13:47, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 14

• ... that Outwood Windmill is the oldest working windmill in the United Kingdom, having been built the year before the Great Fire of London? * Outwood Windmill - Article expanded on 14 May and self-nom by Mjroots (talk)
• Approved Gatoclass (talk) 12:14, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that US-CERT developed the Einstein program that monitors and protects the computer networks of U.S. departments and agencies? -self-nom, new article. Thank you. —SusanLesch (talk) 18:24, 18 May 2008 (UTC). Or:

• ... that until 2008, use of the Einstein program that monitors and protects the network gateways of U.S. departments and agencies was voluntary?
• ... that the National Security Agency (pictured), the Department of Homeland Security and Einstein are three of the ways the U.S. government protects its computer networks? Maybe NSA is more interesting? Just another idea. —SusanLesch (talk) 18:17, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Scotty Bowman (pictured) is the only Sabres coach to have won the Jack Adams Award, an honor given annually to the National Hockey League coach "adjudged to have contributed the most to his team's success"? Five fold expansion. Self nom. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 22:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• Looks to me like some sort of mix-up in the article, because the refs list two Sabres winners of the award and neither of them are Bowman. Gatoclass (talk) 11:42, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

ALT:*... that the first head coach, Hall of Famer Punch Imlach, has the lowest winning percentage of any Sabres coach, with 0.370 during his 120-game tenure? « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 19:45, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Holy Roman Emperor Maximilian I commissioned the Triumphal Arch (pictured), a monumental woodcut print over 3½ m tall and nearly 3 m wide printed from 192 separate wood blocks? -- Theramin (talk) 23:18, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

  Date and length fine, but hook lacks inline citation per the criteria. Olaf Davis | Talk 12:12, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

  These very basic facts can be derived from any one of the cited references. -- Theramin (talk) 20:51, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

  Inline refs added. link updated for altered article title. Johnbod (talk) 22:23, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

  Hook cited from what appears to be a reliable source. It's good to go now. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:07, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Andrus Planetarium, first added to the Hudson River Museum (pictured) in 1969 to celebrate the space age, is the only public planetarium in Westchester County and its laser shows are credited with the museum's 31% increase in attendance in the 1990s, almost 20 years later? Article expanded on 14 May and self nom by _{TravellingCari} 16:56, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

• Looks like vast improvement but length is increased less than 4x. Standard is usually 5x or more, eh? —Wknight94 (talk) 20:33, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

• whoops, guess my math was off. Sorry about that. Somehow I did ~8/1.6 and got 5. Back to elementary school for me. _{TravellingCari} 20:53, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

• Correct me if I'm wrong (I don't play in here too often) but I think only content is counted, not references, etc. If so, then the length went from a bit over 900 to under 3,300. If I'm splitting hairs, someone more experienced here please overrule because it's a much nicer article now. —Wknight94 (talk) 21:05, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

• Wknight94 is correct: see #Instructions. My count is 3115/904=3.45. Also, it's a 282 character hook. Art LaPella (talk) 21:13, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I goofed. I can live with that. I'm just happy the article is better, DYK would have been an added bonus. _{TravellingCari} 21:30, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, only a x3, sorry. Gatoclass (talk) 11:46, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Wallowa-Whitman National Forest (pictured) in Oregon is home to a small population of wolverines, which are rare within the United States? (collaboration of the week at WikiProject Oregon) Northwesterner1 (talk) 10:10, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
  • It's not bad but would be better if the hook could be clarified more in the article, and have an inline citation after it. BG7 14:40, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
    • Done. Northwesterner1 (talk) 17:52, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
      • Looks good. Thingg 16:49, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Brian Ferneyhough's New Complexity song cycle, Etudes Transcendantales uses nested tuplets such as dotted-11:6 within 5:4 in a 2/10 time signature! -- nom of a User:Ekawolfram, a student. (Note that the rhythmic part of the hook is based just on looking at the first measure of the score and doesn't rely on any interpretation by Richard Toop or the article author. It's a bit like saying "... that Beethoven's Für Elise begins on an E", completely verifiable from a glance at the score) -- Myke Cuthbert (talk) 21:24, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• Hook is too specific for a general audience. "Nested irregular tuplets" will do, but you will also need a cite with a page number for that particular statement, even though there is only one reference. Gatoclass (talk) 12:05, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• "Nested irregular tuplets" is fine. But isn't requiring a citation for something that's in the image of the score (in the article) and not interpretive, a bit like asking for a citation of "Lincoln had a beard" in an article with an image of Lincoln and a beard? I don't think it helps readers at all and not necessary for WP:V. -- Myke Cuthbert (talk) 14:56, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• I don't quite think it's akin to "Lincoln had a beard", because for one thing everyone knows what a beard looks like but very few of us would know a "nested irregular tuplet" if we saw one. Furthermore a single example doesn't demonstrate that "nested irregular tuplets" are a feature of this piece, which is what the hook implies. So I do think you'd need a cite for this hook. If you don't have one, I think you should probably come up with a different hook that you can cite to a reliable source. Gatoclass (talk) 16:03, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• Remove nom. -- Myke Cuthbert (talk) 19:52, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Roja Dove is the world's sole Professeur de Parfums? --Hadseys 13:53, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Even after bolding new article, it's way too short. Daniel Case (talk) 15:51, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Expiring noms

Articles created/expanded on May 13

• ... that the Botswana National Museum is the caretaker of Tsholofelo Park, the burial place of Negro of Banyoles, known as "El Negro" in Botswana, following the body's return from the Darder Museum of Banyoles, in Spain? New article created on 13 May by User:BLOFELD of Spectre, expanded by _{TravellingCari} 20:25, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Reference verified but article is too short. Daniel Case (talk) 05:07, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

*... that Patcham Windmill (pictured) was the last windmill built in Sussex? New article created on 13 May and self-nom by Mjroots (talk) 17:52, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Too short and hook fact isn't in article. Daniel Case (talk) 05:00, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

I've added the fact to the article, but can't expand further, so am withdrawing the nom. Mjroots (talk) 05:57, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

*... that before Dr. Seuss's Yertle the Turtle and Other Stories was published by Random House, a meeting had to be held because it contained the word "burp", which was then considered vulgar? — (not entirely sure about the wording, please suggest) self-nom, Mr. Absurd (talk) 05:25, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

perhaps:

... that a meeting had to be held before Dr. Seuss's Yertle the Turtle and Other Stories was published by Random House as it contained the word "burp", which was then considered vulgar?

Hows that for an alt hook?

however, i'm not too sure that it meets DYK's guidelines. It's not new, and it doesnt' appear to have expanded five-fold. BG7 10:57, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

• BG7 is correct. The article is neither new nor a fivefold expansion, as specified at #Instructions. Art LaPella (talk) 00:58, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that film star Tim Matheson's first acting role was as a 13-year-old on the Robert Young 1961–1962 CBS comedy-drama series, Window on Main Street?--self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 20:35, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

• IMDB is not a reliable source. Gatoclass (talk) 05:06, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Pontius Pilate's wife is a saint in the Greek Orthodox and Ethiopian Orthodox churches? - selfnom Ecoleetage (talk) 23:35, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Preexisting article that has only had a ~25% increase in readable text, far short of the fivefold expansion called for in the #Instructions. --Allen3  14:32, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 12

• ... that Eddy Shell, a Louisiana educator and local politician, was in the 1950s the youngest Eagle Scout in Arkansas?--self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 17:56, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
• Everything's fine, except refs need to be formatted. Use {{cite web|url=|title=|date=|accessdate=|publisher=|last=|first=}} for this. Then, it will be eligible for DYK. Thanks! BobAmnertiopsis_{ChitChat Me!} 20:31, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

• • {{cite web}}: Empty citation (help)

Template:Http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080508/OBITUARIES01/805080334/1060/NEWS01= (I couldn't figure this out.)Billy Hathorn (talk) 01:05, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• I'm not persuaded a local politician and educator meets our notability guidelines anyhow. Gatoclass (talk) 10:13, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Cecil Williams, a Louisiana business journalist, worked prior to World War II in Kentucky coal mines delivering dynamite and blasting caps to miners?--self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 17:56, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
  • needs some more referencing and references need to be cleaned up... also, I am not sure a telephone number is a valid source at all... it seems very original research. gren グレン 00:34, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

I removed the part about party and use of the phone number. Billy Hathorn (talk) 01:06, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Alexandria Daily Town, the principal newspaper of Central Louisiana, was established by Irish immigrants on St. Patrick's Day in 1883? --self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 00:46, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Nearest footnote says nothing about paper's founding. Daniel Case (talk) 13:51, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

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