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Valiant return award

About the "Valiant return triple crown winners" - I'm not sure whether this encourages vandals to reform, or encourages good editors to become vandals in an attempt to (eventually) get what is obviously the nicest of these awards! LOL! Carcharoth 02:45, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

While we're on this topic, could blocks be added to the list for the qualifications of the Valiant return award? If so, I can get it :D xihix(talk) 23:03, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Protocol

At the risk of sounding really pedantic, I prefer the previous crowns. Because the current coronets signify real honours in current use, I don't think we ought to use them lightly.

The thing that is enjoyable about barnstars is that they have been lifted from their vernacular and given new purpose. But no one is entitled to use those three feathers and the motto ich dien except Charles Prince of Wales.

Can we go back to our old crowns, please? Amandajm (talk) 07:52, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

By all means. No disrespect intended. I'll seek other alternatives. Durova 18:13, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Replaced that with one that's almost certainly historical. Try hitting refresh. I hope this is better. Durova 21:28, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Can we nominate people for awards?

I am surprised not to see User:WillowW among your award winners. And I think User:Orangemarlin might be a good candidate for an award too, although I dont know about his DYK.--Filll (talk) 03:39, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

You can certainly nominate other people. That's very thoughtful of you. :) Durova 04:19, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Triple crown stats report: 22 December 2007

• Current regular awardees: 37
  • Total DYKs/GA/FC sets: 37
• Current imperial crown jewel awardees: 30 (4 promoted from regular triple crown).
  • Total DYK/GA/FC sets: 75
• Current Napoleonic awardees: 7 (5 promoted from imperial triple crown jewels).
  • Total DYK/GA/FC sets: 52
• Current Alexander the Great awardees: 0
• Current valiant return awardees:0
• Current WikiProject special edition awards: 2
  • Number of Wikipedians who hold special edition awards: 17
  • Unique DYK/GA/FC sets honored through special edition awards: 14

Total DYK/GA/FC sets honored through this program: 181

Total Wikipedians who hold triple crowns: 88 Durova 06:23, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

More on the valiant return and the new levels

Do you think the bar is being set too high for the valiant return one? I recently noticed this, and I was wondering if you can be persuaded to include "former vandals" in the conditions for User:Durova/Triple crown winner's circle#Valiant return triple crown winners? :-) I like the new levels, with Napoleonic and now Alexander the Great. Who is closest to rising to the level of Iskander? And what on Earth can come next? Ghengis Khan, a Roman emperor, Queen Victoria? Will the theme always be military, or does it only have to be regal? Maybe it could go Russian. Who was the greatest of the Tsars? Anyway, it should be a while before people get to 15, let alone beyond that! Carcharoth (talk) 13:58, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

The valiant return award was actually the original inspiration for the triple crown; an editor who had gotten topic banned at arbitration started an article that got into DYK and I gave him a resilient barnstar. Followed that up with an offer of a second barnstar if he contributed to a GA, then decided - what the heck - I'll set up this thing. He hasn't gotten that triple crown yet, but he's a pretty good editor now and the offer helped his morale. Since then I've given out several more resilient barnstars to other people in similar positions. If I lowered the bar it wouldn't mean the same thing to them and it might have an undesirable side effect of encouraging vandalism.

Let's wait until someone earns the Alexander the Great award before we start to discuss what comes next. Another interesting prospect came up a few hours ago: one of the WikiProject Australia triple crown winners is active at another WikiProject that's pretty close to meriting its own special edition award. Durova 09:28, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, I see there is (or will be soon) a debut winner of the Valiant Return award! Good to see that happening. Carcharoth (talk) 21:29, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

"In order to qualify for credit, each editor must create at least 10 line citations to the page"?

What does the above line mean, when referring to FAs? Is including cites the only criteria that has to be fulfulled here? 203.56.182.50 (talk) 05:07, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Sorry to have missed this sooner. 10 citations is a baseline to tell the difference between minor and significant contribution. Durova 21:27, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Hey crazy

Good evening Durova,

I was wondering if two DYKs, 1 GA (which then turned into an FA), 7 FAs (one which used to be the aforementioned GA) and 7 FLs would qualify for your lowest ranking triple crown? Just curious. All the best to you. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:23, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Yup, sure would. :) Durova 21:24, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

ooh. Now I'm nervous... The Rambling Man (talk) 21:25, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Do I fill in a form? The Rambling Man (talk) 21:36, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

I ain't blowin' no trumpet but I got these lovely tokens to exchange for a favour... GA 1, FLC last, FLC last bar one, FLC last bar two, FLC last bar three, FLC last bar four, FLC last bar five, FLC last bar six and last FA, last FA bar one, last FA bar two, last FA bar three, last FA bar four, last FA bar five, last FA bar six, DYK 1, DYK 2. Just so you know m'lady... The Rambling Man (talk) 21:48, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Can I trade that up for something nice? The Rambling Man (talk) 21:49, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh, another FA arrived on my doorstep yesterday... The Rambling Man (talk) 07:52, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

The steeplechase

Do you think the requirement is too high? Even though you only need 5 out of 6, feature sound is WAY too hard to do, so that leaves us 5 out of 5 for the rest of them. OhanaUnited 03:35, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Actually it counts if you find a historic public domain recording, convert to .ogg file, and upload. I'll even count if you spot a neglected file at the Commons archive, place it at an article, and transcribe/research enough information to pass featured sound candidacy. Durova 03:51, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Upgrading?

Hiya, Durova! At the suggestion of a few wikipedians who can't help but notice I have picked up another DYK and GA nom I have arrived to fill out the paperwork for an upgrade, but I have to questions to ask before I do:

• Do I need to present the old DYK, GA, and FA for the update process?
• A point of clarification: according to DYK rules an existing article that has been expanded fivefold is eligable for DYK consideration; do these DYK noms count towards a triple crown? TomStar81 (Talk) 05:03, 20 May 2008 (UTC)