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Readressing Past Concerns
Ok, this article is in need of help. First of all, let me readdress a past concern: removing Corporate Management/Other Personnel. The title reads, World Wrestling Entertainment roster, which is only to include performers (i.e. professional wrestlers, general managers, referees, commentators, ring announcers, and other on-air talent. Second, I think we should really think about making this list a future Featured List. To do that, we need to source the article, thus not complaints about it looking ugly. Another thing, I bring this up because there are many notes and side notes which need to be sourced, and the article has a citation tag, also because sources on the article are unreliable and this article is a frequent vandal target, I believe if we pitch in, we can all make this a better article. If you would like to comment on how we can achieve this, or if you have comments about what I have addressed, please do so below.21:55, 22 April 2008 (UTC)~SRS~
Yeah I agree, I know that there are users that just work on this article, and I agree we should maybe source each wrestler, and I also think we should put if they are a face or heel, like:
Triple H (Paul Levesque) (Face)
Randy Orton (Heel)
who agrees with that? SexySeaSquid 18:42, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
compleatly agree would be helpful 172.142.190.163 (talk) 19:48, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
- No, that is not important or relevant to the article.~SRS~ 20:07, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
put it to a new vote 172.143.23.113 (talk) 16:41, 24 April 2008 (UTC) Read WP:CONSENSUS. Misplaced Pages does not run on votes. Besides I'm with ~SRS~. That's trivia, and it's just not important or relevant. This is a list of who is employed by WWE, not whether they are liked/disliked by the viewers in general. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 18:28, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
- But really, the corporate management/other personnel do not belong on this page.~SRS~ 20:35, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Other concern
In order for the corporate management and other personnel to remain, it has been suggested that the article be renamed to List of current World Wrestling Entertainment employees. To discuss and reach consensus on this, please join the discussion at WP:PW#WWE Roster.~SRS~ 23:20, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
CM PUNK
it says CM Punk can appear on Raw due to the Money in the Bank contract. He can also appear on smackdown so i think that should be added. Adster95 (talk) 18:53, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
He could appear on smackdown due to the smackdown-ECW talent exchange which is already noted. Jimmy1994 (talk) 21:44, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, I agree with Jimmy. SexySeaSquid 15:30, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Tyrone Jones???
On FCW.com, for the 4-19 show, they had a Tyrone Jones on the card. Is this supposed to be the Tyrone Evans on the Unassigned Talent list? CrystallixRed (talk) 22:48, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
- Definately. Dahumorist (talk) 00:40, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah I would think so. SexySeaSquid 00:52, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
Dave Taylor
Is there a specific reason Dave Taylor has been removed from this page? He is still on the SmackDown! roster page on WWE.com. 07:18, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
- Dave Taylor has been released as of April 28 80.177.2.156 (talk) 20:48, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
what happenind
wheres rey —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.206.110.55 (talk) 13:23, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
- Good question. I've put him back into inactive. Good catch. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 15:11, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
Matt Striker Inactivity?
Why is Matt Striker inactive, didn't he wrestle on SmackDown against Hornswoggle last week? 09:49, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Bam Neely
^^^^Needs a article right? SexySeaSquid 16:03, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
- Justin "The Ox" LaRouche a.k.a. Bam Neely may not qualify for his own article just yet, unless we can dig up some background info. I don't know what the criteria are for "deserving an article", and I can't really be bothered to check just now. --Kaizer13 (talk) 16:59, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
- Has an article. Justin LaRouche. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 17:13, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Move Page
Hey guys I think that we should move the page to World_Wrestling_Entertainment_Employees. I belive that this will make the page more presentable.Want to know what you guys think.16:34, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Wrestlers with unknown identities
Okay, how do we deal with wrestler's whose real name is unknown? according to the World Wrestling Council another one of their wrestlers has just signed a developmental contract with WWE and will be moving to FCW shortly. The thing is that in his career he has always wrestled as "Black Pain", one of those "mistery characters" that wear a mask, and since his work in the company has been mostly in the midcard I can't find any report listing his real name. - Caribbean~H.Q. 16:48, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
- Just list him as Black Pain until more information arises. Dahumorist (talk) 19:08, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Stop changing name of article
- Cross discussion here
Here guys can we just all agree on a name for this article because im sick of it being changed. Adster95 (talk) 18:01, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
- Yes and consensus at WT:PW was to not include the name "List of..." in all the lists that are apart of the project, which fits the original name change of Current World Wrestling Entertainment employees. This is also being discussed at WT:PW, here.--~SRS~ 20:19, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Torrie Wilson
How come she has been removed from the page depsite being out on an injury and still being active on the roster segment and diva page on the WWE website? She's not on the alumni page either, so I guess she hasn't parted ways with WWE. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.153.43.77 (talk) 14:10, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
- She's listed in Other Personal. iMatthew 2008 14:14, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
- he needs to be in inactive talent not other personal. <font-family:"Tahoma">Vote 4 Pedro 17:40, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
- No, she is in other personnel, because she has been advised not to wrestle anymore, so she is doing promotional work alongside Ric Flair, but she will not return as an active diva to any brand.--~SRS~ 17:43, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
- That has been verified on Wrestling News sites. Gamloverks (talk) 16:17, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, but she is released now.~SRS~ 21:48, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
- That has been verified on Wrestling News sites. Gamloverks (talk) 16:17, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- No, she is in other personnel, because she has been advised not to wrestle anymore, so she is doing promotional work alongside Ric Flair, but she will not return as an active diva to any brand.--~SRS~ 17:43, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
Rey (Important)
i found this website you may say its an unrelible source but all its stories are true they say rey will return in june heres the website http://wrestlingtruth.com/index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1209488538&archive=&start_from=&ucat=3& 172.141.66.93 (talk) 21:41, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
When he comes back for real, we'll add a source.SimonKSK 15:08, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
J.R
Jim Ross is not a play by play comentator, he is a proper comentator, he was removed for one match because some other loser was having a sook but thats one match in how long? or is there a reason behind you sying this?-- The Great One 10:59, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
Kane & C.M. Punk
They are on the roster as a tag team do they tag up enough to be considered one? <font-family:"Tahoma">Vote 4 Pedro 18:18, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
- I'd say yes for now, they have tagged a fair amount of matches, and are competing for the titles at JD. King iMatthew 2008 18:19, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
- O, I didn't know that yeah they should definately be on there my bad lol. <font-family:"Tahoma">Vote 4 Pedro 18:22, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
- Me neither. If they win the tag titles at JD, then yes of course they will. But Kane and Punk are also on side feuds (one-on-one) so not to much of a team at the moment. --~SRX~ 18:32, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah that's a though one, I think every one know were that storyline is going <font-family:"Tahoma">#1 Metallica Fan Your Hancock 00:08, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
- O, I didn't know that yeah they should definately be on there my bad lol. <font-family:"Tahoma">Vote 4 Pedro 18:22, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
CM Punk
CM Punk should be noted as being able to appear on all 3 brands due to having Money in the Bank.
That case gives him the right to be on any show, any time so he can cash it in whenever he wants.
Things like that should be explained so it's understood why he can be on a brand that isn't his home brand, just like the SD/ECW talent share.
Vjmlhds May 11, 2008 20:03 (UTC)
- Well he doesn't appear on Raw that much, and he only appears on SD/ECW, so not really notable that he is able to do so, now if he appeared every week on Raw, that is a different story.--~SRX~ 20:07, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
- He has appeared twice on Raw since 'Mania, IRRC. one was the raw directly after, which is quite typical. The other was KoTR which was a special case. I don't think it needs to be mentioned. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 20:09, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
Take last year for example, Kennedy (then a Smackdown guy) won the MITB case, and he appeared quite frequently on Raw after that.
And Edge (then a Raw guy) went to Smackdown and beat the Undertaker for the World Title.
My point is that having the case gives you the right to be on all 3 brands because you can cash in any time, anywhere.
Whether or not you always show up is one thing, but having the case gives you the right to, that's the point.
Vjmlhds May 11, 2008 20:16 (UTC)
- There is no written rule that it gives your those rights. Read the last sentence of the first paragraph, which proves the statement about C.M. Punk to be un-needed. King iMatthew 2008 22:37, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
Money in the Bank means you can go after any title, any time, any place. As Edge showed last year when (as a Raw wrestler) he appeared on Smackdown to beat the Undertaker for the World Title.
As Wiki's own article for MITB states, "the briefcase holder...can appear on any of the 3 shows to allow the case holder the chance to cash in".
WWE has plainly stated that the case holder can pick his own spot at his own time frame to cash in.
Having that case gives CM Punk the specific right to be on Raw whenever he chooses, so he is given the chance to cash in (if he wants to do so). That sets him apart from anybody else who pops up on Raw when it isn't his home brand.
Vjmlhds May 14, 2008 18:42 (UTC)
- Ok but anytime refers to a "one night only" thing, as he will cash it in one night, and then he will become part of that brand, its not like he will be regularly competing on all three brands, its only a one night only thing (with the exception of SD!/ECW)~SRX~ 20:45, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
I never said anything about regularly appearing on Raw, just that he could appear due to holding the MITB case.
We make note of the SD/ECW talent share because it has been made clear that those 2 brands are working together and guys could be on both shows.
All I'm saying is that CM Punk has the right to appear on Raw as well because it's part of the MITB gimmick that he could go to any show, anytime he wants, and cash in.
Vjmlhds May 14, 2008 21:10 (UTC)
- For one night!, if he has the right to appear on all three brands, why don't I see him "appearing" regularly on Raw? Because, the MiTB is for a one night only appearance, followed by regular appearances after the cash-in.~SRX~ 21:16, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
He doesn't have to be there all the time, having MITB just means he can if he wants to.
Also, just because the ECW and Smackdown guys can go back and forth, it doesn't mean that every guy does it all the time, it just means they can if they want to.
Vjmlhds May 14, 2008 21:21 (UTC)
- No, the SD!/ECW deal just allows it. It is also to build up feuds, however, the MiTB appears regularly on one show, (exception with SD/ECW), if I remember correctly, when Edge won it in 2005, he never went to SD!. When RVD won it in 2006, he never went to SD!, he remained on Raw, because he made it clear that he wanted to challenge for the WWE Championship, (which is the exception, as it is clear that he wanted to challenge for a Raw-exclusive title). In 2007, Mr.Kennedy appeared on SD! but not on Raw, when he was drafted, he only appeared on Raw, when Edge won it back, he cashed it in on "one night" on SmackDown!. Same thing applies to Punk.~SRX~ 21:26, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
You're wrong SRX, Kennedy appeared on Raw quite a bit when he had the MITB case, getting in Cena's face about being able to cash in anytime, anywhere, and boasting about cashing in at Wrestlemania. In fact it was on Raw where Edge beat Kennedy to win the case, and Edge then cashed it in the next night on Smackdown.
Kennedy got drafted to Raw after he came back from his injury, (which was the reason they took the MITB case from him to start with).
In '05 MITB was Raw exclusive, In '06 it became inter-promotional (RVD had the right to go to SD if he wanted to, he just never did), and in '07 ECW got added to the mix.
Vjmlhds May 14, 2008 21:54 (UTC)
- Those were exceptions, however, this year there was no source that stated Punk could appear on all three brands, unless I missed it, but if there is one (reliable that is), it can be added, but if there isn't then the note shall not be added.~SRX~ 22:29, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
SRX is indeed incorrect about the MITB siutation and the suggested change should have been made. MaskedSuperAgent (talk) 11:43, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Wrestling GMs
Before we get into an edit war, I have a compromise.
We have a separate category, for guys who wrestle along with another function.
For example:
Occasional Wrestlers
- Jerry Lawler - Color Commentator
- Roddy Piper - Makes Special Appearances
- William Regal - General Manager
- Ron Simmons - Makes Occasional Appearances
And we put non-wrestling talent in the "Other On-Air Talent" category.
What do you think?
Vjmlhds May 15, 2008 19:50 (UTC)
- What's wrong with the current format?~SRX~ 19:57, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
There's been some back and forth about whether guys like Regal and Estrada should be put as active wrestlers or other on air talent.
I'm just putting forth a compromise to stop an edit war.
Vjmlhds May 15, 2008 20:02 (UTC)
- Ok, so that doesn't call for a new format. Adding more contents into the TOC makes the page longer than what it already is. I don't see what's wrong with just putting Occasional wrestler, next to the name under Other On air talent. Now however, if they both wrestler week by week, then general manager needs to be added next 2 the name under active wrestlers. --~SRX~ 20:06, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Like I said, going through the history page, there was a lot of back and forth, so I tried to find middle ground. Not trying to re-invent the wheel.
Vjmlhds May 15, 2008 20:11 (UTC)
- Its appreciated that you wanted to find some middle ground, but IMO its unnecessary to add it, as this is a pretty long list as it is, and if it exceeds, the page will take forever to buffer.~SRX~ 20:13, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Pay no attention to SRX. I agree that your suggestion makes the page that much more simpler and eliminates any possible confusion so feel free to keep up the good work. SRX isn't God so don't feel as if he's the end all, be all on anything. MaskedSuperAgent (talk) 11:46, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, but assuming bad faith and making near-personal attacks dont make your arguments stronger. I feel the same way SRX does. — Κaiba 22:18, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
No need for angry outbursts Kaiba. We're all civil people here. Your attitude isn't necessary mate. Mr.Krycek (talk) 22:26, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- I think every body except Masked Super Hero (I hope i got your name right by the way *Sarcasm*) agree's with SRX! <font-family:"Tahoma">#1 Metallica Fan Your Hancock 23:36, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Who's angry? Saying what policy reflects is not an attitude, an angry outburst or incivil as your implying, I suggest you not push the agenda of the indefblocked editor.. — Κaiba 04:34, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Agenda? A little paranoid aren't we? Heaven forbid someone disagrees with another user but agrees with another's helpful suggestion. Vjmlhds was right on the money but I suppose we can't let good ideas get in the way of kids running around with imaginary power on this website. (Mr.Krycek (talk) 16:38, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- We ALLWAY'S listen to ANYBODY that has idea's! And there are just as many adults as kids should I name some? Nikki311 , LAX , Think Blue, Carribean HQ, Gavyn Sykes. I could go on for hour's. Beside's we are all established editor's here on Misplaced Pages no matter our age, it's not our view points It' Misplaced Pages's! <font-family:"Tahoma">#1 Metallica Fan Your Hancock 18:33, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Yes Metallica I got your point. You're not to be questioned and you want me to kill myself. It's been noted. Mr.Krycek (talk) 22:51, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
big daddy v
what happend to him hes not been released and i cant find him on this page and every time this page is unlcoked its vanderlisde thanks KCDavis 172.189.235.59 (talk) 15:01, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you for noticing, he has been re-added under inactive talent for ECW.--SRX 15:11, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
The reason why Big Daddy V is inactive is because wwe sent him home to loose weight. --80.2.51.38 (talk) 17:16, 17 May 2008 (UTC)chrispowellathome
SCSA
austin hasent made a apperiance in iver 6 months it should just say public relations cuz be fair its missleading someone reads this page and think oh ausin is gonna make a guest apperance but he dont and its been like that for 6 months if he makes another apperance then put it back down but we could put rock there as makeing apperances cuz he made one last year and this year around wrestlmania so either add rock or take apperance bit off of steve austin 172.206.253.15 (talk) 12:37, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
yea good point ill do it KCDavis (talk) 17:06, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
- Thats what "occasional" means. However, if Austin does not make an appearance in another couple of months, then it will be removed.--SRX 17:29, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Stop IP's from vandalizing this page.
What do we do to block IP's from editing this page? There has been a huge amount of vandalism over the past few days. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Doppy88 (talk • contribs) 04:11, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
You can get the page protected. MATT 04:35, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- I made a request at WP:RFPP this morning, it hasn't been commented on for some reason. — Κaiba 04:36, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- I have the page on my watchlist but I know what y'all mean. We need to put a end to this. <font-family:"Tahoma">#1 Metallica Fan Your Hancock 15:40, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- Semi-protected, for three days, this should stop them for the time being while everything is sorted good. :) — Κaiba 19:24, 21 May 2008 (UTC)