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== ] ==

Just because Musgrove denies the affair, it doesn't mean it is not true. Let's take Bill Clinton for instance, he denied a lot of things - and all of the things he denied turned out to be truthful.

You have repeatedly nagged me about not citing information, and when I do, you are still upset. I understand that you live in MS, are probably a Democrat, and probably supporting Ronnie Musgrove, which is fine. However, do not let your personal feelings on something get in the say of your "journalistic" work. It reflects very poorly on you. Furthermore, if you feel the need to block me for my reporting, than so be it. I will just use an IP scrambler device and make new login names. I have absolutely nothing better to do. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 19:21, 27 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:The rules of Misplaced Pages say the information can't be included. Musgrove denies it and therefore it can't be included. Your Bill Clinton analogy is different.. yes Clinton denied many things, but he then told the truth later on about those things. Once he told the truth, the information could then be included. Until Musgrove reverses his denial of the allegations, that's all they are.. allegations, and can not be included on Misplaced Pages.

:Additionally, thanks for letting me know you have no life and "absolutely nothing better to do" than sit around and include libel and sland in articles on Misplaced Pages. Just remember that's vandalism and I have "absolutely nothing better to do" myself and can remove your vandalism as fast as you can vandalize. Have a great day. '''-''' <font size="+1" color="red">&#10032;</font><strong style="letter-spacing:1px;font-family:Verdana">]</strong><font size="+1" color="red">&#10032;</font> <sup><small>]</small></sup> 20:53, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
::Just a friendly note that whether or not this subject denies the allegations is of no consequence. If the assertion can be well-sourced then it could be included in the article. BLP requires that we have a very good source but it says nothing about the subject liking or agreeing with the material. --] (]) 21:24, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Unfortunately, many many admins and policy seem to disagree. See the ] article for that. He's an admitted male prostitute but no way no how was that allowed to stay in. See the ] article as well. Tons of magazine interviews admitting he is gay but it couldn't be included because he now denies it - even though it's on paper in magazines. In this case, there's no proof and the still living former governor denies it. Including it would be opening Misplaced Pages Foundation to libel issues. '''-''' <font size="+1" color="red">&#10032;</font><strong style="letter-spacing:1px;font-family:Verdana">]</strong><font size="+1" color="red">&#10032;</font> <sup><small>]</small></sup> 21:32, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Then it sounds like those admins and those who edit those articles are wrong and I see no reason to perpetuate that in this article.
::::And the libel issue is clearly wrong, too. I believe the CDA adequately covers this issue. --] (]) 21:35, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

== Sorry about that ==

Sorry about my behavior on the ]. A question of me being too rushed and not careful enough. I apologize sincerely for being a jerk. &ndash;] (]) 23:04, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
:No worries. :] '''-''' <font size="+1" color="red">&#10032;</font><strong style="letter-spacing:1px;font-family:Verdana">]</strong><font size="+1" color="red">&#10032;</font> <sup><small>]</small></sup> 00:18, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

== Thanks for the correction ==
Thanks for correcting me on my mistake on the ] page. ] (]) 22:41, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

== fedora page ==

hey, i was doing a quick edit as a joke to a friend and saw you had reverted already. your wiki-fu is lightning fast.

keep on rocking in the free world. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 05:33, 29 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== disgrace ==

look up the definition of disgrace and tell me it does not apply. use of the word is not opinion, it is fact. ] (]) 06:01, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
:Refer to ]. Personal opinion is not allowed in Misplaced Pages articles. Have a good day/night. '''-''' <font size="+1" color="red">&#10032;</font><strong style="letter-spacing:1px;font-family:Verdana">]</strong><font size="+1" color="red">&#10032;</font> <sup><small>]</small></sup> 06:02, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
::"use of the word is not opinion". you do something to fall out of grace, you therefore are disgraced. ] (]) 06:05, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Whether or not he was "disgraced" is an opinion. Some feel he wasn't. Some do. It's an opinion and can't be included. Have a good day/night. '''-''' <font size="+1" color="red">&#10032;</font><strong style="letter-spacing:1px;font-family:Verdana">]</strong><font size="+1" color="red">&#10032;</font> <sup><small>]</small></sup> 06:06, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

::::Per your message, I was not changing the substance of the post but merely trying to bring the Bill Moyers article a bit further in check with Misplaced Pages's "neutral point of view" policy, as it is clearly written from a Moyers-apologist perspective. I was unaware that your point of view was the baseline for neutral. I will cease and desist from any future attempts at accuracy, bringing me well within the bounds of Misplaced Pages standards. As Wikirule #141 states: Conservatives “claim” and “allege”; Liberals “argue” and “prove”. (Karl Rove paid me to write that.) <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 06:15, 29 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Grama Vidiyal ==

I created the page for this website and have no affiliation with the firm. I do not know why people keep on editing the page. It is incorrect.

Please explain why you continue to edit this page. Neither of the things you have posted seems to be correct. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 06:27, 29 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Misplaced Pages requires verifiable sources and references. As the notice says, This article needs additional citations for verification - not just the single one that is there. Continued removal of the notices is considered vandalism. Just do what the notice says and then it can be removed. '''-''' <font size="+1" color="red">&#10032;</font><strong style="letter-spacing:1px;font-family:Verdana">]</strong><font size="+1" color="red">&#10032;</font> <sup><small>]</small></sup> 06:30, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

I have added the additional citations. The COI should also be removed, as there is no point-of-view problem and no reason for that comment. The sources have been provided. They are no web-based, unfortunately but they exist nonetheless.

Please explain to me how I can fix this issue. I am NOT affiliated with the company. Is there anyway this can be resolved. The website is as unbiased as any other corporate wiki. Please just help me fix the issue. Thanks! <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 07:25, 29 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:As I said once already, just simply do what the "references" notice says. Leave the Conflict of Interest notice alone. It stays. Once you've addressed the "references" notice by adding verifiable sources, it can be removed. '''-''' <font size="+1" color="red">&#10032;</font><strong style="letter-spacing:1px;font-family:Verdana">]</strong><font size="+1" color="red">&#10032;</font> <sup><small>]</small></sup> 07:28, 29 May 2008 (UTC)


I have added references. Is there any way at all to get the COI removed. It's not true. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 07:35, 29 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:The 2 references you added are not direct links. What is the direct link to the Annual Report (2007) and what is the direct link to the Vidiyal Business Plan ? '''-''' <font size="+1" color="red">&#10032;</font><strong style="letter-spacing:1px;font-family:Verdana">]</strong><font size="+1" color="red">&#10032;</font> <sup><small>]</small></sup> 07:39, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

How long does deletion take. I would like a full deletion that will permit someone else to perhaps write the article on Grama Vidiyal in the future. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 07:45, 29 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:There's no time frames. Just whenever someone gets to it. '''-''' <font size="+1" color="red">&#10032;</font><strong style="letter-spacing:1px;font-family:Verdana">]</strong><font size="+1" color="red">&#10032;</font> <sup><small>]</small></sup> 07:48, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Will the phrase "Grama Vidiyal" be available for use to other, future editors to create a page? ] (]) 07:50, 29 May 2008 (UTC)Charlie1858
:Yes, once it's been deleted, it can be recreated later.. with verifiable sources/references of course or it will be deleted again. '''-''' <font size="+1" color="red">&#10032;</font><strong style="letter-spacing:1px;font-family:Verdana">]</strong><font size="+1" color="red">&#10032;</font> <sup><small>]</small></sup> 07:52, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

== hello ==

just apologizing for jokingly editing the page, i wasn't aware that it would make permanent changes that could be viewed by anyone else, it will absolutely not happen again. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 07:57, 29 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Atheism ==

A happy recently-converted Atheist, I was just wondering, is there any Secular Wikiprojects that I could join? Cheers, ] (]) 08:30, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
:See ] directly and you may find others you'd be interested in at ]. '''-''' <font size="+1" color="red">&#10032;</font><strong style="letter-spacing:1px;font-family:Verdana">]</strong><font size="+1" color="red">&#10032;</font> <sup><small>]</small></sup> 08:33, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

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:Thanks Doc! :] '''-''' <font size="+1" color="red">&#10032;</font><strong style="letter-spacing:1px;font-family:Verdana">]</strong><font size="+1" color="red">&#10032;</font> <sup><small>]</small></sup> 08:57, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

== question ==

I would like to add my company to wikipedia. Other companies such as MaidPro and ServiceMaster have information about them on wikipedia. Please tell me how I can do what they have done so I am abiding by wikipedia's rules.

thanks. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 19:46, 29 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Please read ] and then go to ]. '''-''' <font size="+1" color="red">&#10032;</font><strong style="letter-spacing:1px;font-family:Verdana">]</strong><font size="+1" color="red">&#10032;</font> <sup><small>]</small></sup> 20:26, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

== Subscribe bitch ==

. So far they're short and boring, much like my ex's penis. I'll be adding some more interesting ones soon (the ''really'' interesting ones will be on xtube). I haven't even uploaded half of the pictures I've taken in the past week. I've taken alot of embassy pictures, but sadly I've yet to find the Embassy of Mississippi. I visited the country a few times. Odd people indeed. ] ] 06:30, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
:OK, I did.. but the first time I see one of your amateur pr0n vids, I'm gonna write an ] about it, BLP be damned! And BTW, how's my new layout here workin' for ya? '''-''' <font size="+1" color="red">&#10032;</font><strong style="letter-spacing:1px;font-family:Verdana">]</strong><font size="+1" color="red">&#10032;</font> <sup><small>]</small></sup> 06:39, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
::Well, I'm still using an old desktop until the I organize a LiveEarth concert to raise funds for a new laptop. On this computer, I can't see part of the right side of your page unless I scroll over. My userpage layout looks different on this computer as well, so I don't really know how it looks to most people. ] ] 07:11, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

== KXPO Edit ==

I actually edited it completely truthfully, being, in fact, good friends with one of the DJ's there. I am saddened that the changes were reverted. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 07:28, 30 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:The changes were reverted because of all of the personal commentary. Personal commentary isn't allowed in articles. You wouldn't see ''"I BET YOU CAN'T. I BET YOU CAN'T EVEN ANSWER IT CAUSE IT'S SO HARD"'' in Encyclopedia Brittanica, would you? '''-''' <font size="+1" color="red">&#10032;</font><strong style="letter-spacing:1px;font-family:Verdana">]</strong><font size="+1" color="red">&#10032;</font> <sup><small>]</small></sup> 07:38, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

== Mr. Allstar==

Mr. Allstar can you explain why my editing is not helpful? All the editing I have done I have backed it up with data and facts. The people who have been editing has not backed up their data with facts and reason sir and you have kept their information in the article sir. Their information is plain incorrect. I have heard stories of the machination that goes on in wikipedia please convince me otherwise. ] (]) 09:48, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
:As can be seen , you removed content that should not have been removed. You removed the pictures as well as the text leaving nothing but one word in the section you edited. '''-''' <font size="+1" color="red">&#10032;</font><strong style="letter-spacing:1px;font-family:Verdana">]</strong><font size="+1" color="red">&#10032;</font> <sup><small>]</small></sup> 09:53, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
::I apologize, that was an honest edit error. ] (]) 19:10, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
:::I've read your explanation regarding the maps and have now deleted most of it, as you can see, from here because of its length. I have moved it to ].

:::Additionally, it would be more helpful if you would read ] so that when you make questionable changes to articles, you can explain immediately why you did so, rather than have someone revert your edits and you have to go though a long drawn out explanation as you did here. I still question whether or not your edits are appropriate but as I am not well versed in anything Africa, I'll leave it to someone else to review your edits. Have a good day. '''-''' <font size="+1" color="red">&#10032;</font><strong style="letter-spacing:1px;font-family:Verdana">]</strong><font size="+1" color="red">&#10032;</font> <sup><small>]</small></sup> 21:27, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

== You obviously don't care about facts ==

My edits to AFA are proper. You have yet to prove otherwise. All you care about is defaming them. ] (]) 01:10, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
:And you obviously don't care about the way things work around here. You don't remove valid, sourced content. You discuss it on the article's talk page, as you've been asked to do numerous times. '''-''' <font size="+1" color="red">&#10032;</font><strong style="letter-spacing:1px;font-family:Verdana">]</strong><font size="+1" color="red">&#10032;</font> <sup><small>]</small></sup> 01:12, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

==American Family Association==

Note the discussion I started '''before''' you reverted my edit originally. Please feel free to discuss the matter there. ] (]) 05:12, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

== May 2008 ==

<div class="user-block"> ] You have been ''']''' from editing for {{#if:|a period of '''{{{time}}}'''|a short time}} in accordance with ] for violating the ]{{#if:|&#32;at ]}}. Please be more careful to ] or seek ] rather than engaging in an ]. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may ] by adding the text <!-- Copy the text as it appears on your page, not as it appears in this edit area. Do not include the "nowiki" tags. --><nowiki>{{</nowiki>unblock|''your reason here''<nowiki>}}</nowiki><!-- Do not include the "nowiki" tags. --> below. {{#if:|] (]) 05:43, 31 May 2008 (UTC)}}</div><!-- Template:uw-3block --> 3RR violation on ]. ] (]) 05:43, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

{{unblock|I am not in violation of 3RR. Twice with one IP and twice with another. These IPs have removed sourced content and it's not 3RR when reverting what amounts to vandalism from the 2 IPs. Since when do we allow whitewashing/censorship of content on Misplaced Pages? Further, the user HiDrNick that reported me to 3RR did so out of malice as we have a history of run ins and because I stated I suspect him of being a SOCK on ANI a few minutes ago regarding this very article. See Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Persistant edit warrior Further, HiDrNick, in his 3RR report OF COURSE failed to leave out the IPs and their edits but made sure to point out my last 3RR block from November 2007. This is totally bogus.}}
:I'm not going to make a stand as to whether this was vandalism, but that's a worthwhile question... if there's consensus this shouldn't have been reverted over, though, two reverts plus another two makes four, which seems to be more than three (per ], three reverts per page per 24 hours, not to be gamed). It's worth noting the page is now semi-protected, rather than fully protected, which seems to lend some credence to this unblock request -- if we're looking at this from a preventive perspective, it's unlikely any further edit warring is going to happen, soon. Allstar, would you be willing to commit to discussing this instead of reverting, or at least getting others involved, if unblocked? &ndash; <span style="font-family: Garamond">] (])</span> 06:56, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
::Of course I would be willing to. However, look at the history and you'll see that I'm not the only one that's been reverting the edits of ]. And now it's that the other IP, ] is a meat puppet of the first IP. All I was trying to do was prevent whitewashing/censorship by IPs and I saw that as reverting vandalism, which 3RR doesn't apply to. This isn't a content dispute as far as I'm concerned but a policy one insofar as not removing sourced content. I've asked the IPs to discuss their removals on the article's talk page to reach a consensus '''before''' removing the content. The first IP didn't discuss anything on the talk page and the second IP only opened a discussion after being reverted the first time, but still failed to wait on a consensus and continued removing the content. '''-''' <font size="+1" color="red">&#10032;</font><strong style="letter-spacing:1px;font-family:Verdana">]</strong><font size="+1" color="red">&#10032;</font> <sup><small>]</small></sup> 07:05, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
:::I'd prefer not to review this unilaterally, in either direction, but from general experience I can say the best chance at getting unblocked is to agree you'll be very mindful of 3rr in the future; there are ways to escalate an issue or involve more editors which are less likely to result in pain for all involved, I think. Anybody else have input? &ndash; <span style="font-family: Garamond">] (])</span> 07:13, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Well, I do agree to be very mindful of 3RR since I'm always mindful of it, not just in the future but have been now, an hour ago and a month ago. I just didn't think this was a 3RR issue but an issue of anonymous IPs trying to whitewash/censor an article, which is vandalism. I'll not that my only other alleged 3RR block was in November 2007 when I kept removing content on ] where people were adding he was officially the new head football coach at ] when in fact, he hadn't been officially hired and no news source had reported he was. I guess the key for me would be to just not revert anything, ever, since apparenly I don't know what the threshold is for vandalism to 3RR. So, yes, I agree to be very mindful of 3RR. '''-''' <font size="+1" color="red">&#10032;</font><strong style="letter-spacing:1px;font-family:Verdana">]</strong><font size="+1" color="red">&#10032;</font> <sup><small>]</small></sup> 07:22, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::Additionally, the admin that protected the article page . The second IP is a meatpuppet of the first IP as well as an admitted sockpuppet since he/she states in the ANI thread that he/she has a registered account. '''-''' <font size="+1" color="red">&#10032;</font><strong style="letter-spacing:1px;font-family:Verdana">]</strong><font size="+1" color="red">&#10032;</font> <sup><small>]</small></sup> 07:42, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::Looking on both ANI threads and the article talk page, I see no evidence or consensus that the second IP is a meatpuppet of the first, only you saying so. Second, if you have a registered account, but make logged out edits, unless you act as if the IP and the account are different people, it isn't sockpuppetry. The user even said that they don't remember their password. Its also been established that neither IP is HiDrNick, so I would suggest you remove that allegation from your unblock request. You also warned the 121.216 IP for edit warring and the protecting admin also warned them for edit warring, not vandalism. <font face="Broadway">]]</font> 08:41, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Actually, The Evil Spartan said he's a meatpuppet on the ANI thread. The Evil Spartan also requested at AIV that the IP be blocked. So if the IP isn't a meat, then that'll need to be taken up with The Evil Spartan, not me. '''-''' <font size="+1" color="red">&#10032;</font><strong style="letter-spacing:1px;font-family:Verdana">]</strong><font size="+1" color="red">&#10032;</font> <sup><small>]</small></sup> 08:50, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

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