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::This entire category is filled with assertions that put Misplaced Pages at legal risk. Persons accused of being Soviet Spies, perhaps. But in many cases the evidence is thin. Calling a citizen a spy means they are being called traitors, which is "libel per se," and the burden of proof shifts. This is a dangerous game being played here by ideological right-wing editors who fail to recognize their own POV.--] 04:03, 27 August 2005 (UTC) ::This entire category is filled with assertions that put Misplaced Pages at legal risk. Persons accused of being Soviet Spies, perhaps. But in many cases the evidence is thin. Calling a citizen a spy means they are being called traitors, which is "libel per se," and the burden of proof shifts. This is a dangerous game being played here by ideological right-wing editors who fail to recognize their own POV.--] 04:03, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
:::If you follow the links, this category was evidently created as a subcategory of ], using a Hollywood/fictional wriing type definition. There are steps being taken to work on the this problem; again, I would invite you to participate in a '''structural approach''', rather than this constant fueding over contents, which can be dealt with later. ] 06:04, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

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List quality

This list of "Soviet spies" is contentious, and has probably been compiled by a neo-conservative who wants to justify the old and new McCarthyism. I would certainly delete Lauchlin Currie's name from the list, and would mention that someone edited my original Wikepedia entry on Currie to embellish Elizabeth Bentley's charges against him. The edit was poorly written and included spelling mistakes, and I resented its insertion into my own article. If people want to dispute an article it should be done in a separate memorandum, not by adulterating someone else's writing. Please note that in my own article I explicitly drew attention to work that does claim that Currie was a spy (Haynes and Klehr, 1999), so the edit was gratuitous as well as ugly. - Roger Sandilands — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sandilands (talkcontribs) 01:12, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

This entire category is filled with assertions that put Misplaced Pages at legal risk. Persons accused of being Soviet Spies, perhaps. But in many cases the evidence is thin. Calling a citizen a spy means they are being called traitors, which is "libel per se," and the burden of proof shifts. This is a dangerous game being played here by ideological right-wing editors who fail to recognize their own POV.--Cberlet 04:03, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
If you follow the links, this category was evidently created as a subcategory of Category:Spies by nationality, using a Hollywood/fictional wriing type definition. There are steps being taken to work on the this problem; again, I would invite you to participate in a structural approach, rather than this constant fueding over contents, which can be dealt with later. nobs 06:04, 27 August 2005 (UTC)