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Adoption

So I heard you were seeking adoption and decided to stop by. If you'd like, I could adopt you. :) Your choice. My talk page is open, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 23:00, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Basically, I take you under my "wing" and help you out whenever you need it while you're going through the learning curve on Misplaced Pages. It isn't a binding contract, so you needn't worry, and all that happens is you have somebody to help you out. So if you'd like I could adopt you. :) I've got to get to school, however, so I'll be back in a few hours. Cheers, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 13:07, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Sounds good! Would you like this to be active or passive? Active means that I find out what you'd like to do, then provide you with the relevant information and techniques; passive means that you kinda teach yourself, dropping by for information if you feel you need it. I'm fine with whichever one. Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 00:38, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Ok. Not to make it sound like this is an MMORPG, but which role would you like to play?

• Article engineer
• New page and vandalism patroller
• XfD veteran
• WikiGnome

Of course, you can mix and match classes, and I'm just using this metaphor because it fits, but there are general areas of the encyclopedia which some people prefer over others. Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 01:34, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, got a bit busy in real life over here. Anyway, basically;

• You could work on articles (create, write, cite) which includes stubs and featured articles;
• You could tag inappropriate pages with tags so that they are deleted, and also fight vandalism;
• You could participate in deletion processes such as AFD;

Now, that's just a sample of stuff you could do. You could also produce free-use pictures for articles, for example. And while there are some people who stick to one area and nothing else (for example, vandalism fighting only) the majority of users do a variety of things here. Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 22:00, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

For AfD help, you should familiarize yourself with the policies used in deletion arguments. There are many, too many to list, but the core policies are notability policies. Also, things like WP:GOOGLE, WP:ATA, WP:BLP1E, and so on are fundamental concepts. For new pages, you'd just go to Special:Newpages and check articles that appear; if you think they should be deleted, add a speedy tag and an admin will review that.

For vandalism fighting, the best way is to get a program; I'd suggest WP:HUGGLE. See WP:VAN for more definitions of what vandalism is. You should also know WP:WARN.

There's tons of stuff, and I'm not going to lead you through it; the fun comes in discovering new parts of the encyclopedia to improve. That should get you started, however. Cheers! Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 00:15, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

An official adoption, I guess. If you need to know anything at all, feel free to drop by my talk page. Cheers, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 01:04, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Great job! Speedy deletion is quite helpful indeed. The related area, new page patrolling, is also helpful. Also, for a policy boosting "course", you may want to try WP:XFD processes, particularly WP:AFD. Just check a few and comment if you want to; AFDs are great for learning. Best thing about Misplaced Pages is; you can do this all at your own pace, so don't feel pressured. Cheers, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 02:50, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

RE: Adoption

Well, there's no real way to formalize it; to make a binding contract, for example, would be against Misplaced Pages's goals. I removed the userbox, however, and added one to my userpage. Oh, and my apologies for my absence; school is hell, and I'm trying to take a Wikibreak until I've settled this workload. Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 00:48, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Less cluttered now. :) Anyway, anything I can help you with? I've got a bit of free time tonight. Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 01:04, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

1. Misplaced Pages:Userboxes should be able to help you out. There's a whole list of available topics in the gallery section.
2. As for joining WikiProjects; by all means, go ahead and join. Misplaced Pages encourages equality; therefore, groups may not exclude other editors unless they fear that not doing so will harm the encyclopedia, in which case they'll make their concerns known. Given that you won't do any harm, I'd say go ahead and join up. Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 12:51, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

You could always go to deletion review, as that's usually what one does when the AfD was closed recently and you feel it was closed improperly. Cheers, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 01:00, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Usually, WP:AIV is the right place to go; WP:ANI is for more complicated incidents, WP:AN3 for revert wars, WP:RFPP for page vandalism, and WP:UAA for inappropriate usernames. Those are basically the core report pages; there are more, but they aren't used nearly as frequently.

Anyway, the pages I just mentioned will always be staffed by multiple admins and experienced users who will help assist you with vandals or whatnot; just make sure you report things correctly (i.e. know how to report someone at AIV.) Hope that helps, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 03:07, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Request & WP:Saints

To add yourself to Wikiproject Saints, add your name to the list on this page. I would poke around all of the project pages, starting with WP:SAINTS and WT:SAINTS, there is plenty to do.

Drop me a line if there is anything else I can do for you. Pastordavid (talk) 18:05, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Try just stepping away from the computer. If not possible, go to WP:BACKLOG and start helping to slog through the massive backlogs wherever you might be able to help. Perhaps some penance/community service would help to put it all in perspective? Pastordavid (talk) 20:48, 24 April 2008 (UTC)`

Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln

A very nice addition to the article. Pastordavid (talk) 20:31, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

A very nice stub. 3 things to note. (1) Check the external links policy. I deleted on blog link from the Moses article. (2) There is a difference between event notices/press releases (which a number of the links in the Christ church article were), and third-party coverage. And (3) WP:REF explains how to add references, rather than straight links. I think you are on the right track here, and are adding some good content to the encyclopedia. Pastordavid (talk) 21:12, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Welcome to WP:UU!

Hi Ecoleetage, I see you've joined the UU work group. Good to have you in WP:UU! :) Aleta 03:48, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Good job....and thanks!

Good job on expanding A Bayou Legend past what it started as! It looks nice, and I asked DYKers to reconsider your hook. Keep it up! BobAmnertiopsis_{ChitChat Me!} 11:17, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Opera articles

Hi (and Welcome from the Opera Project). As you'll have seen if you have them on your watchlist, I've added some categories to your four articles. Check the documentation on the Project Page for which categories are essential. You may have noticed that I created new categories for "Operas by xxxx", even though, in Drattell's case, there's currently only one with an article. It's quite easy to do.

The other things I did were 1) to alter your link to Lilith from Drattell's article - it went to the mythological character, which I guess was an oversight, since you put a correct link to the opera on the Lilith disambiguation page; also 2) I added a Stub tag to Lilith (opera) as it doesn't have many of the elements needed for a full article - again, see the Project page. The other articles would benefit from the insertion of sub-headings, again as recommended by the Project. It's a moot point whether they count as stubs, too - probably yes, except for the Joplin.

The final thing is that the articles should be added to The opera corpus so that Project members are up to date. I did that for Lilith and maybe the Joplin one, but not for Still.

Nevertheless, good work and feel free to ask questions - that's how we all learn. --GuillaumeTell 21:49, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: Saving Mrs. Pilate

Thanks! You have no idea how nice it feels to be shown gratitude, especially for something as thankless as resolving edit wars. Please don't hesitate to ask if you ever need any help with anything in the future. east.718 at 11:03, May 24, 2008

Thank you for the kind words. :) east.718 at 03:41, May 25, 2008

:)

Thank you for the barnstar! Don't let yourself think that your contributions aren't appreciated too. ;) Have a nice day! Basketball110 /_{Tell me yours} 00:45, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations

Congratulations on Mrs. P's promotion to GA status! This is excellent news - I know you put a lot of hard work into the article. I'm sorry I wasn't able to offer more help. Once the FA I'm working on is done, I'd still like to see if I can't track down a few more sources for the article, as I am intrigued by the topic. I'll keep you posted on what I find.

Thank you, also, for the barnstar: it's such a lovely surprise to get one. :) Kafka Liz (talk) 11:35, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi Eco - If we can find the sources, we can certainly try. I don't think it'll be easy, though, realistically speaking. Not necessarily impossible, but not easy. Kafka Liz (talk) 15:57, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Feedback on Big Doe Camp

I have posted the article temporarily in My Sandbox. If you want please take a look and give me any feedback you may have, or feel free to edit the article a little. ELt me know if you think it is a stage where I can post it to the Main Misplaced Pages Space. Magnetawan (talk) 15:22, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok that would be great if you could edit it a little. I reference two main articles from the Toronto Star in 1975, and 1955. If you need these articles I can e-mail them to you if you are setup to allow e-mails and feel you need them. I removed the camp song, Your probably right on that point. it is always something that I can add at a later date when I know the article will not be promptly deleted. Once you have gone through it let me know if you think it is at a point where I should try and post it again to the Main Misplaced Pages. Magnetawan (talk) 15:39, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Our Friendly Admin has undeleted the article and I have moved all the edits over to the original. So please edit the article on the mainspace at Big Doe Camp. --Magnetawan (talk) 15:55, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks so much for all of your help with the article. Your right the article does hold a certain value to me. I also appreciate your edits. I will go through them all soon, at the moment however I have a few other real life things to attend to. This next week and a half is extremely crazy for me. Misplaced Pages has seemed to take over my life recently. I am happy to have gotten the article to a position where it will not deleted. Your help is very much appreciated, I was kind of stuck and didn't know what to do for a while until you pointed me in the right direction. I was getting ready to give up but you gave me a new sense of hope. Also thanks again for the edits and not actually posting them all right away. I will go though them and will most likely implement many of them, it just might take me about a week. Magnetawan (talk) 19:37, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

• Well I'm not really back on yet but rather avoiding my other work. I've taken a look at your edits and I like some of them and not others. I don't want to remove all the information about the different schools though as I'm trying to link the article to as many different things as possible so that if it ever went to AFD I could say it has impact on more stuff. Give me a couple more days. I have an exam tomorrow and another on wednesday. Magnetawan (talk) 20:30, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: Thank you, and also...

Yeah any IP whose first edit is vandalising a userpage should be blocked immediately. The recent changes is where all the anti-vandal fighting happens. It may get repetitive after a while, but if you really want to help, I'd recommend tools like twinkle. Cheers, Spellcast (talk) 15:57, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I was going to suggest huggle, but apparently it's not recommended for users who are new to the recent changes. Instead, you can try popups (or any of the tools listed here). I'm really use to twinkle, so I'm not sure how good the others are. Remember, if anti-vandal work isn't your thing, you can always work on articles (which is what I prefer). Cheers, Spellcast (talk) 16:10, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

No problem. Also, about your AIV report on 88.229.188.185 (talk · contribs), IPs are usually given a set of level 1 to 4 warnings (see WP:TUSER) before being blocked. If someone keeps vandalising after a "final warning" (which usually looks like this), they should be reported to AIV. If they stop after a level one or two warning, there's no need to report them. Hope that helps! Spellcast (talk) 16:20, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

IP vandal

Hi Eco - the reason I didn't block the user was because blocks are meant to be preventative - not punitive. Since he hasn't edited in over a week, there is no clear and present danger to the encyclopedia. Thus, it's advisable not to submit an AIV report on a user who has been inactive for longer than 10-15 minutes. Hope that helps. See also Misplaced Pages:Blocking policy. xenocidic (talk) 19:44, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Have you considered enabling Twinkle? It allows you to easily report users to AIV by clicking the "ARV" button while viewing their talk page. It also helps to hand out warnings and such. It can be turned on in your Gadgets. xenocidic (talk) 20:08, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I believe twinkle works on Firefox only, but I would suggest upgrading to Firefox anyway. It's free, and much more robust than IE. ( http://www.mozilla.com ). Huggle will also do automatic reporting, yes. xenocidic (talk) 20:13, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Keep up the good work!

Just a minute ago, right as I was about to revert vandalism, you came along and beat me to it! I was like "Wow, my adoptee just beat me to vandalism!" Anyway, once again, keep up the good work! I haven't seen many newcomers mastering the skills as quickly as you have. :) - DiligentTerrier (and friends) 20:22, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for welcoming

Thank you for welcoming me and for providing some helpful links. South Block (talk) 18:55, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank You

Thank you for your comment on my RFA. WP:AGF is important in my book, as well as WP:IAR. If you can't say a comment without a smile on the end, don't say it. :) <3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 18:59, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Brampton Jail

Thanks for the kudos! :-) I hope someday to see at least a stub for every jail in Ontario.--JeffJ (talk) 20:26, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

And many thanks for the Barnstar! You made my day!--JeffJ (talk) 21:15, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Roujin Z

Congrats. When I saw a page I did 1 edit to last year get a DYK, I got happy. Nice job. *thumbsup* <3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 17:11, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the grats. :D I think I picked up a Roujin Z VHS at the dollar store long ago, but prolly never watched it. I might have to find it now. :) <3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 03:44, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations!

Congratulations from your adopter on receiving two more Did You Know notices. - DiligentTerrier (and friends) 21:36, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

Hello, thank you for your welcome :-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sometime-science-editor (talk • contribs) 01:42, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Ok we'll do. Thanks again. Sometime-science-editor (talk) 01:53, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

What's been up?

Hi, Ecoleetage! I haven't heard from you in a while. What have you been up to? I've had three of my articles on DYK since we last corresponded, and I got an article which I expanded (Milwaukee Avenue Historic District) promoted to GA...woohoo! Also, I got an article on In the News, a first for me. What have you been doing? BobAmnertiopsis_{ChitChat Me!} 23:07, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar Thanks

Thanks for your kind words and my first barnstar. The majority of my contributions are on Chiropractic, an article that with quite heated discussion, so I try my best to maintain a civil and professional demeanor. Cheers, DigitalC (talk) 05:22, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Engkanto

Just wanted to comment on this and specifically the speedy delete tag 'mini-war' we had. As I said on the talk page I think there was just enough info in the original page to warrant keeping it although it need major updating and so remove the speedy delete tag (quite properly). It had also been speedy deleted once before when I hadn't had a chance to delete the tag so wanted to avoid that happening again as my original google search suggested there may be something there. I now feel justified in that action as it's now a clear cut case as evidienced by the discussion on the AfD. I accept we have different views about whether it should stay but hope there's no hard feelings about the 'speedy delete' issue. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dpmuk (talk • contribs) 14:25, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your very nice comment on my talk page. Glad we got it all sorted to everyone's satisfaction. Now I've just got to keep my promise to tidy up the page! Hopefully I'll at least make it make sense although as I've not done major editing of a page before the style may not be great. That said I've been meaning to learn how to do a page properly for a while but have struggled to know what to write about as job related issues mean I can't write about the only area I have real expertise on. Dpmuk (talk) 23:00, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Have now updated it and there appears to be at least one other active editor. I'd be interested if you had any constructive comments on what I've done as I'm new to major edits and you've taken an interest in the page. Dpmuk (talk) 00:21, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks for the compliment. The Stranger is an excellent novel. Camus is pretty amazing, I fancy myself somewhat an absurdist, so it fits.--Aujourd'hui, maman est morte (talk) 22:43, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Denmark audio

Hi. You're the guy who welcomed me right? Block User:Denmarkaudio due to Misplaced Pages's naming policy. Narutolovehinata5 10:18, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

OOOOPS!

Did'nt know YOU created that article. Sorry..... Narutolovehinata5 13:03, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Re:Zan Award or Whatever

Heh. Thanks for the temp. That was the last award i thought I would get (you would've chosen something different if you'd known me in real life).

Although, my goals are further away that Grawp's and WoW's:

1. I was a sockpuppeteer, unblocked less than a month ago. I'll have to wait a year, possibly more, to even have a remote shot at participating in a request for something/
2. I'm adopted now.
3. I have less than 3000 contributions.
4. All my mainspace contributions are reverting vandalism.
5. I'm too annoying and paranoid about Misplaced Pages to ever be important.

But really, don't think the template didn't mean anything. It was a great confidence booster that at least one out of millions cares about me. May you become an administrator one day! Shapiros10 _{My work} 17:52, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Of course people care about your past! Every one of my contributions will be scrutinized! Shapiros10 _{My work} 17:57, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

mere hiccups? Hiccups? Dude: I was indefblocked. Someone took pity on me.

So far, I have one smart person and 1,999,50 idiots. About 39 other users that i like. Shapiros10 _{My work} 18:02, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

"Goofed up"? Dude. I had a sockfarm. If I had "goofed up", like maybe speedying an article that I didn't know didn't meet criteria, I'd probably be given a level-1 or something.

I'm very honored that you think I'm a "nice guy". but being a nice guy isn't the same thing as being a good editor. Shapiros10 _{My work} 18:20, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

I know my priorities are really screwed up, but at the moment being a good editor sounds better. I'd really like to have both, but I'll settle for nice guy. Shapiros10 _{My work} 18:29, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Re:DYK

Thank you for your kind words. I enjoy writing about heroes who have somehow slipped through the cracks of history and whose feats are virtually unknown. These men are rarely mentioned in history books and so not have statues nor paintings to honor them. You may be interested in also reading about the actions of Juan de Amezquita. Tony the Marine (talk) 18:09, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Tylomyini

Thanks! Apologies for the lack of content on it; the problem with pages on mid-level fauna divisions (family, subfamily, tribe, subtribe) is the lack of information you can give; individual species are a lot easier. At the moment i'm just going around fixing the redlinks and adding whatever I can :). Ironholds 20:00, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, and ditto to you. I spend a lot of my time on NPP and categorising uncategorised pages. The entire reason I joined NPP in the first place was the number of dross articles that made their way through and I then had to deal with, so on behalf of the entire uncategorised pages taskforce; thanks for reducing that number! One person dealing with it now means that 5 other people dont have to categorise it, review it, stick it in a wiki-project, and so on :). Ironholds 20:07, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh yes. The best bit is when you have a user OUTRAGED that his band, which has written THREE WHOLE SONGS, is having its page deleted! I mean it's played five gigs at his school, you can't remove international fame like that! Ironholds 20:13, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

And thanks for the patrol :). This page (thankfully) has a bit more content. Ironholds 20:14, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Anyone can; I use google searches and automatically generated infoboxes :D. It works, and While I dont expect to be pulling FA's or even GA's out of my arse, it's better than having a redlink. Ironholds 20:18, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Not exactly; what we were just talking about, really. A user created a vanity page for himself. It was deleted, and he, yes, that's right... immediately replaced it! I left him a warning about creating inappropriate pages with the message "The page was deleted for a reason, dont immediately replace it". I think it was the bluntness of that and the fact that it was an ONLY warning (IMO, people who's first edit is a vanity page and second edit is adding that page to a "notable residents" list are unlikely to be useful contributors) violated the "please dont bite the newcomers" essay. If/when I go up for adminship again I can see that acting against me. Ironholds 20:28, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for the Barnstar! we'll have to see about getting you one with the number of decent NPP edits you're making :). While i'll appreciate your support at the if/when RfA (and offer the same if you ever go up for one) I'd ask that you look at it objectively; i'd rather get votes for being good admin quality than for being a cynical sod with a dry sense of humour :P. Ironholds 20:34, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Ooh, apparently the red 'star is for revolutionary policies. Might want to change that? Although again, thanks for it :). I feel like the child at christmas who goes "wow, this is fantastic! you still have the receipt, right?" Ironholds 20:36, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Well they're south american mice, so perhaps only Che. Still, Communism as a proposed method of government has always fascinated me, so thanks! Ironholds 20:39, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Haha, true. Keep up your good NPP work as well; as I said, it might not be a particularly high profile task but it keeps dozens of other wikignomes from having to work on the articles. Out of interest, do you keep the pages on your watchlist? Ironholds 20:44, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

...Honestly can't tell if that's sarcasm, but i'm assuming it isn't :P. Ironholds 20:49, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

I'd advise putting pages you list for CSD on your watchlist. If it's a valid deletion, they'll be deleted and you can remove them; if it's a slip-up (and everyone makes them) then you can reply to any use of the hangon tag. I have about 200 pages on mine at the moment (not including talk pages). Ironholds 20:56, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Re:Very Nice

Greetings

No problem:-) We should all try hard to always be friendly to other users. Incivility creates a stressful environment, and can cause people to leave the encyclopedia:-) Also, thanks for the smile. BTW, nice work here. From looking at your userpage you seem like a fine editor.--SJP (talk) 20:20, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Victor

Then by god he can do it himself! I'm an Editorofthewiki 21:01, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: new Pakistani articles

Hello :-)

Just thought I'd say thanks for your compliment on my talk page :-) just creating them as I think Misplaced Pages could benefit from having more Pakistan related articles - although maybe I am spending too much time editing! Regards Pahari Sahib 21:07, 20 June 2008 (UTC)